[Sorrit]

Emurlahn, on 19 November 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 November 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Ouch.
Ehm, the faction specific buildings are all intended to be unique.

So Karosis is Atif and is LP as long as he keeps an Honor Guard retainer around.

However, if Karosis is just a GoB member and has a one use building, he can be lynched now.

I propose a test. Let's go for a speed lynch and find out. If we can manage it in the next ~4 hours, we can have Day 5 before a Thanksgiving break. Once past that, we should treat it as Day 4 being our last before break.

Vote Karosis

I'm not okay with a speed lynch. The last day went by way too quickly as it is. Plus I just mentioned in a previous post that Karosis is damn near unlynchable probably.

[Ruse]

Since the Fener case is getting steam Amp I would recommend not paying the worship to Fener if you have a choice. The last thing we want is for him to then take that worship and make himself sacrosanct (though that would at least tell us where he is).

[Ampelas]

Sorrit, on 20 November 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 19 November 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 November 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Ouch.
Ehm, the faction specific buildings are all intended to be unique.

So Karosis is Atif and is LP as long as he keeps an Honor Guard retainer around.

However, if Karosis is just a GoB member and has a one use building, he can be lynched now.

I propose a test. Let's go for a speed lynch and find out. If we can manage it in the next ~4 hours, we can have Day 5 before a Thanksgiving break. Once past that, we should treat it as Day 4 being our last before break.

Vote Karosis

I'm not okay with a speed lynch. The last day went by way too quickly as it is. Plus I just mentioned in a previous post that Karosis is damn near unlynchable probably.

I think Karosis wants us to think like that. I still think Fener is best choice for today.

@Ruse, i'm not paying him anything. If he continues to do it to other people though he will become unlynchable unless people pay him the worship then he can sacrosanct that shit up all over the place!

[Sorrit]

The hellions are awake. I was hoping to get caught up but now I'll be on off and on for the rest of the day.

[Olar Ethil]

Sorrit, on 20 November 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

I'm not okay with a speed lynch. The last day went by way too quickly as it is. Plus I just mentioned in a previous post that Karosis is damn near unlynchable probably.

Thats a dangerous assumption and I don't agree with just dismissing someone cause they were able to sacrosanct teice (If it was even him) He got robbed and raided 5 times yesterday (if he was telling the truth). There is no guaranteeing that he is as you claim. You come off as a teammate who is trying to push attention else where.

[Path-Shaper]

I'll be having roughly 2 hours on thread, then I'll be gone with phone access only for the next 12 (of which I'll be sleeping 7 or 8). Will be back in time for deadline resolution.

[Olar Ethil]

Olar Ethil, on 20 November 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 20 November 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

I'm not okay with a speed lynch. The last day went by way too quickly as it is. Plus I just mentioned in a previous post that Karosis is damn near unlynchable probably.

Thats a dangerous assumption and I don't agree with just dismissing someone cause they were able to sacrosanct teice (If it was even him) He got robbed and raided 5 times yesterday (if he was telling the truth). There is no guaranteeing that he is as you claim. You come off as a teammate who is trying to push attention else where.

oops, Tellan was the one that was raided... disreagard that post. BUT, I still stand by the fact that considering anyone "near unlynchable" is a poor idea going forward. Tapper does a lot to balance these games. I feel like an unlynchable player would upset this balance.

[Ruse]

Olar Ethil, on 20 November 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 20 November 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 20 November 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

I'm not okay with a speed lynch. The last day went by way too quickly as it is. Plus I just mentioned in a previous post that Karosis is damn near unlynchable probably.

Thats a dangerous assumption and I don't agree with just dismissing someone cause they were able to sacrosanct teice (If it was even him) He got robbed and raided 5 times yesterday (if he was telling the truth). There is no guaranteeing that he is as you claim. You come off as a teammate who is trying to push attention else where.

oops, Tellan was the one that was raided... disreagard that post. BUT, I still stand by the fact that considering anyone "near unlynchable" is a poor idea going forward. Tapper does a lot to balance these games. I feel like an unlynchable player would upset this balance.

I disagree somewhat. Lynching only happens during the day while there's assassinations and other abilities at night and battles have their very own phase. I could easily envision a role that has all it needs to be lynch proof for quite a while but can't do so with exposing itself and can be defeated fairly easily in battle or assassinated.

[Path-Shaper]

Olar Ethil, on 20 November 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 20 November 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 20 November 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

I'm not okay with a speed lynch. The last day went by way too quickly as it is. Plus I just mentioned in a previous post that Karosis is damn near unlynchable probably.

Thats a dangerous assumption and I don't agree with just dismissing someone cause they were able to sacrosanct teice (If it was even him) He got robbed and raided 5 times yesterday (if he was telling the truth). There is no guaranteeing that he is as you claim. You come off as a teammate who is trying to push attention else where.

oops, Tellan was the one that was raided... disreagard that post. BUT, I still stand by the fact that considering anyone "near unlynchable" is a poor idea going forward. Tapper does a lot to balance these games. I feel like an unlynchable player would upset this balance.

I will say this: taking out a player in this game is extremely hard - I wanted to make it tough, it is turning out to be harder than I envisioned originally.
There are reasons for this: tile actions, buildings, action costs, targeting distance, sacrosanct + khalif's justice, not knowing what faction your target is.

No-one is unlynchable. But everyone who can gather 6 Worship for a well-timed Sacrosanct can resist it, and if you can gather/ produce it consistently, then you can resist for a (long) time. Concerted efforts through several phases are going to be necessary, most likely.

[Silanah]

Hey all.

I think it's unlikely we can successfully lynch tellan or karosis. But I'm not happy with the way fener responded to that little bit of pressure on him. I think that could be a good bet for a lynch. My only concern is that amp could be lying about the vote thing and is trying to bait us into lynching fener.

on the other hand, tennes is running out of time before modkill. Maybe we should lynch him before then for the cf?

[Ruse]

Silanah, on 20 November 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

Hey all.

I think it's unlikely we can successfully lynch tellan or karosis. But I'm not happy with the way fener responded to that little bit of pressure on him. I think that could be a good bet for a lynch. My only concern is that amp could be lying about the vote thing and is trying to bait us into lynching fener.

on the other hand, tennes is running out of time before modkill. Maybe we should lynch him before then for the cf?

I'd rather have two dead players (neither of whom I think will likely turn out to be in my faction) and info on one of them than one dead player with info.

[Fener]

Ok I am kind of caught up. It looks like Emur and Tellan are on the same team. Since Tellan can't seem to be lynched because the sacrosanct thing keeps popping up. We don't know if Karosis was on the same tile as Tellan or if he had a special retainer that prevented him from being lynched. I am going to vote for Emurlahn because he tried to prevent Tellan's original lynch by saying that he was going to drop out and be mod killed. He didn't in fact his posting has picked way up. Which tells me that he is probably allied with Tellan. It has taken me an hour and a half to write this fucking post. Work is crazy.



Vote Emur

[Fener]

Ruse, on 20 November 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Since the Fener case is getting steam Amp I would recommend not paying the worship to Fener if you have a choice. The last thing we want is for him to then take that worship and make himself sacrosanct (though that would at least tell us where he is).

What is the case on me? That amp says that he can't vote me because of a message from PS? I haven't done anything to anyone this game. Barely been on. I don't know where or why he was sent shit. But I think that the same people who have been harping on me all game are trying to set me up.

[Fener]

Path-Shaper, on 20 November 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Right. I hate doing this, but Tennes has 8 more hours to check in.
After that, over 36 hours since the start of the clock have passed.

This is why I have posted not because someone mentioned my name. I was mentioned several times yesterday and did not post. Not lurking just able to get on for a sec and now I have to go. Vote me or what not. I don't have time to play this game with the necessary attention that it needs. Sorry

[Emurlahn]

Ampelas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

I cannot vote Fener unfortunately. I received something saying that unless I pay 3 Worship every day until the end of the game I cannot vote for him.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 15 hours and 36 minutes remaining

16 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Emurlahn ( Fener )
1 Vote for Tellan ( Karosis )
3 Votes for Fener ( Telas, Ruse, Olar Ethil )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Ampelas )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Galain, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

[Silanah]

Emur, care to explain the change in activity?

[Anomandaris]

Didn't he say he'd be rarely on for 3 days last week and then he'd be back?

[Ruse]

Silanah, on 20 November 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

Emur, care to explain the change in activity?

He already did. Somewhere around page 15.

[Emurlahn]

Fener, on 20 November 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

vote for Emurlahn because he tried to prevent Tellan's original lynch by saying that he was going to drop out and be mod killed.

I popped onto post to say "lynch me because RL is priority ATM." A few hours later that statement was no longer true.