[Abyss]

Briar King, on 11 December 2015 - 06:01 PM, said:

It was a Force Storm. All powerful Sith emit them on death. Or at least they used to in old EU

In the DARK EMPIRE comic he just transferred his awareness into a shiny new clone.

[worry]

Abyss, on 11 December 2015 - 08:10 PM, said:

Briar King, on 11 December 2015 - 06:01 PM, said:

It was a Force Storm. All powerful Sith emit them on death. Or at least they used to in old EU

In the DARK EMPIRE comic he just transferred his awareness into a shiny new clone.

[Nicodimas]

@ QT: Whats your thoughts on the ongoing reddit theory.. (I tried to Pm you on it)

https://np.reddit.co...ned_force_user/

https://twitter.com/...245185452474368

Maybe spoilers..dont know

[Traveller]

QuickTidal, on 11 December 2015 - 08:06 PM, said:

Illuyankas, on 11 December 2015 - 07:48 PM, said:

Sorry, there is no way George Lucas would write something even close as nuanced as that would need to be (which is not much at all). You're giving him far too much credit.

I know that. No one said anything about George Lucas being the impetus behind those things. I specifically noted that it was mostly retcon and Clone Wars stuff, plus New Canon material. I'm not really giving him credit at all.

All George did was leave the window open for those retcons and interpretations, as his script strokes were broad and wide, allowing those gaps to be filled by others. Did George intend to say that Padme died from being Force siphoned? Or that Anakin's immaculate birth was the result of an imbalance Force? Or that Siduous had major Sith powers that allowed him to fuck with the universe as he saw fit? Probably not...but that doesn't remotely matter, does it? I mean is there a reason it matters at this point? He's retired. Disney and Kat Kennedy and Dave Filoni and Pablo Hidlago and others have taken the ball he created and run with it in a slightly different, almost entirely better direction. Who cares what the genesis was or who is responsible, so long as we have an end result that makes sense.

Let's face facts. The Star Wars Continuity we currently have as official is a Frankenstein of the bones of what GL made with the OT and the prequels, and what came after with better, more in depth media (the Clone Wars, Rebels) combined with the heads of the New Canon Story Group and their ideas.

EDIT: Illy, if you are explicitly talking about Padme's death...I don't think that even Lucas would have her die randomly for no reason like that. Even he is not that bad a writer. While it's open to interpretation (in the way I noted) as it stands...I could never quantify the idea that Lucas had her die of a "broken heart" which is what everyone assumes. I'm not buying that he's that dumb, he just wasn't smart enough to paint the whole picture on the screen. The med-droids dialogue is well proof of that to me.

I'd agree with all that, and add that if you read the early drafts of the script for RotJ, you can see that George did actually have a lot of ideas about the ways in which both the Sith and Jedi could influence minds from a distance, subtly plant ideas so they appeared to belong to their owners, or cause certain people or events to be ignored or hidden.
Even the force spirits of Ben and Yoda were supposedly aiding Luke against the Emperor in RotJ in many drafts - it just never made it to screen. It seems plausable that there were similar ideas behind what eventually made it to screen in RotS.

(I really wish someone, anyone, would come up with a truly believable reason for Anakin to turn from protective husband and future father into a child killer, as it still doesn't make sense)

This post has been edited by Traveller: 11 December 2015 - 10:32 PM

[Illuyankas]

It's because George Lucas Is A Bad Writer

[Andorion]

Whose idea was the Jedi temple over a Sith temple? Seems a bit silly of the Jedi

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

Andorion, on 12 December 2015 - 01:03 AM, said:

Whose idea was the Jedi temple over a Sith temple? Seems a bit silly of the Jedi

This doesn't seem that inane:

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In introducing the concept through Tarkin, Luceno compared the shrine and the construction of the Jedi Temple atop of it to how Hernán Cortés, the Spanish Conquistador, destroyed the Aztec city of Tenochtitlan. After the destruction, Aztec temples were razed and churches were built in their place, with legends persisting that the churches had not entirely eliminated the power of the temples. In Tarkin, Luceno introduced a similar concept where he postulated that the Jedi were not able to stop the power of the shrine.

From Wookiepedia.

[Abyss]

Andorion, on 12 December 2015 - 01:03 AM, said:

Whose idea was the Jedi temple over a Sith temple? Seems a bit silly of the Jedi

Wasn't this a Monty Python joke?

[worry]

Nah. Star Wars happened a long time ago. You can't spoil it any more than you can spoil the American Revolution or the first Super Bowl.

[Traveller]

I think I'm going to avoid the internet entirely next week - I would like to walk in on Thursday without knowing any more than I do now.

[Tsundoku]

Andorion, on 12 December 2015 - 01:03 AM, said:

Whose idea was the Jedi temple over a Sith temple? Seems a bit silly of the Jedi

Someone must have read Pet Sematery. And we all know how well that went.

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 12 December 2015 - 09:00 AM

[Primateus]

Tsundoku, on 12 December 2015 - 08:59 AM, said:

Andorion, on 12 December 2015 - 01:03 AM, said:

Whose idea was the Jedi temple over a Sith temple? Seems a bit silly of the Jedi

Someone must have read Pet Sematery. And we all know how well that went.

[Abyss]

worry, on 12 December 2015 - 07:31 AM, said:

Nah. Star Wars happened a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. You can't spoil it any more than you can spoil the American Revolution or the first Super Bowl.

Fixed.

[Kruppe]

Out of interest - are people watching in 3D or standard?

[Nicodimas]

Standard ...

[QuickTidal]

3D and Dolby ATMOS.

[HoosierDaddy]

My office set their Christmas party for the 18th, and they are Star Wars fans. I have tickets at 10 pm. They are debauched. I am an idiot. It's going to be a tough battle.

[Traveller]

I don't get on with 3d.

[worry]

Anyone else just into this stuff for the funny robots?

[worry]

If you're not thinking of dimensions purely in terms of Euclidean space, but rather grant that time is the fourth dimension in the spacetime continuum, aren't all "regular" movies 3D in the sense of employing 3 out of 4. And those that implement depth are actually 4D?