QuickTidal, on 29 November 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:
Silencer, on 29 November 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:
OK...there is one part of this trailer that's pissing me off.
Going back a few months now, I made a post in this thread about locations.
....desert. Fucking desert. Quite probably Tattooine. WHY?!?!?!? I really hope it's like "the first ten or twenty minutes of character introductions then off and up out to new places" (like a shortened version of EpIV's intro). Otherwise I'll be annoyed. No, scratch that, I still don't like it, but I'll live with it. XD
The rumour is that it's not Tatooine, but another desertlike planet, which is why they shot in Abu Dhabi as opposed to Tunisia (where the Tatooine sets still exist).
Then ther eis the Alpine looking location the X-squadron are flying over...and then the darker snowy woods with the sith (possibly still the alpine location?) which I thought COULD be Morriband, the sith homeworld.
As I said. DESERT. Even if it's not specifically Tatooine, it's basically the same place (we can see what looks like standard Tatooine-esque junk engines and shit in several shots, people clearly use speeders a lot, and there are probably vaporators all over the place, wouldn't be surprised if there are Tuscan Raiders/expies thereof, either). The point is, it's got shots on another boring desert planet specifically BECAUSE of the movies' fascination with Tatooine. That planet is a bloody isolated spaceport of nefarious reputation, it shouldn't be in
every goddamn movie.
And substituting it for another planet of the same exact features but "not Tatooine" doesn't exactly do much for me. The setting is overused, thanks to the prequels. If this was a straight-up, sequel movie to VI, I'd be fine with it. It'd be nice to see the mirror to the first trilogy. But because the prequels were unable to do a single movie without copious amounts of time on a certain twin-sunned desert planet, I think we need to go elsewhere.
Why not a Hoth-like planet? Or a forest area of what is clearly a varied biome? Sure, we might get other planets (X-Wing scene, lightsaber scene), but
why have the desert at all?! Unless it's a VERY deliberate "screw that prequel trilogy" setup, it's just too much sand. XD
Grief, on 29 November 2014 - 06:56 PM, said:
I didn't like the teaser.
It felt almost like a parody/fan made. Particularly with the awful cheesy narration and the musical cues. The beginning, where the stormtrooper pops onto screen after "dramatic" narration accompanied by the rapid music felt like something out of a Scary Movie film or something.
Eh, that wasn't awesome, but I think they're trying to convey snippets of the tone here. It's a teaser. The first teaser. A YEAR out from release. I think we can give them leeway with how little it actually conveys. Remember, we don't actually want to see the whole movie in a trailer!
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The pointless cut to a football looking robot and the lightsaber seemed to be more about selling the film on the basis of "look what cool creative new designs we have and will later merchandise" rather than anything else. The lightsaber seems unnecessary to me, and just seems to stem from Darth Maul honestly (I doubt they would have done it if not for Episode 1, I mean). I honestly groaned at that part (the narration did not help...narration is not necessary to point out the Manichean dynamic of the films, reallly).
Yeah, that lightsaber makes almost as little sense as the "light whip" from the EU. However, as QT noted, it may be entirely ceremonial/a deliberately older style of saber due to the nature of its wielder. Or it could be purely included so that someone can cut the little emitters off dramatically in the final fight scene at some point, or something. Who knows, maybe they do something actually useful?
Personally, I think dual-wielded, shorter sabers would have been a cool thing to see that acknowledges the different options without trying to one-up the double-ended saber. Though in practice, unless our heroes are really good with their sabers, fighting someone experienced with twin blades would screw them over from lack of experience VERY fast. XD
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Basically, I have my doubts about it. I'm currently expecting it to be a decent film, probably rather cookie-cutter, that doesn't do anything especially interesting with the universe and panders a lot. I just can't really see Disney doing much other than playing it safe, and the trailers so far really haven't helped with that. On the plus side, I also doubt they'll do anything so awful as Jar-Jar etc.
Will still go and see it, but cautiously (though after Episode 1-3, that was a given anyway).
The best part of the trailer was the shot of the X-wings probably.
Though actually, watching it on mute it doesn't seem quite so bad (some bits are still silly though), so maybe it's just the narration of the trailer I'm having issues with.
Eh, I'm not sure. Disney doesn't have any particular need to play this particularly safe. They are likely to take a step back from what the prequels were doing (or at least have a more reasonable cast) and bring it back to the smaller-scale story for the first episode, but that's about it. They can afford to pick and choose EU bits for use, after all.
This teaser wasn't super-inspiring, but like I said, first look. The Falcon, X-Wings, and TIE fighters were there for shout-outs/to get the audience excited, the rest of it was "these three people are characters in this film". Oh, and "looky, new Storm Trooper design!", which was pretty decent.