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#1 User is offline   Son of Father Light 

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:45 PM

Just finished the novel and damn Erikson once again broke my heart.

The first instance was that young kid Abasard. Barely knew him for a couple of chapters before he was cut in half. But those few chapters really touched me :)

Beaks sacrifice........ Hood meeting him in person almost made me weep. He is definitely in my top ten characters. This was on the same epic proportions as when the T'lan Imass knelt before Itkovian( R.I.P)

Toc's death happened right after Beak's and my emotions were already at their highest. Tool's reaction upon discovering his friend was the first time I have cried since MoI. I feel for Toc. The shit he has been through is excruciating and mind numbing. But I don't think this will be the last time we see him.

Trull's death was so unexpected and shocking that I smashed my iPhone at a nearby wall( surprising it didn't break). After all he wen't through........ Hopefully his son will not bring shame to his father :p
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:59 PM

Unfortunately, his son goes on to university and majors in Art History.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 09:10 PM

I picture him becoming a warrior mage type. Equally as skilled with the spear as his father and a wielder of Mockra. Dangerous combination
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:55 PM

his pedigree is quite impressive. hopefully he shows up in the toblakai trilogy somehow.

edit: hold on, have we gotten a confirmation on the gender of seren's child?

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 09:21 PM

I actually don't know. I just assumed it would be a boy ? :heart:
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 11:45 PM

View PostSon of Father Light, on 07 October 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:


Trull's death was so unexpected and shocking that I smashed my iPhone at a nearby wall( surprising it didn't break).


Ah yes, but I threw my book, which is a nice, durable paperback, rather than my phone, which is not nearly so resilient.
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 11:46 PM

View PostSon of Father Light, on 08 October 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

I actually don't know. I just assumed it would be a boy ? :heart:


Not necessarily a safe assumption in Malaz.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:18 AM

Oh yes, this book has tons of casualties.

-the death of the whole Sengar family
-Beak
-Toc
-Redmask (possibly one of the most brutal deaths in the series)
-Karos and Tanal
-Hannan
-massacre of the Bluerose
-Brohl Handar and Bivatt (hinted at)
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 09:18 PM

View PostBriar King, on 20 October 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

View PostKanese S, on 08 October 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

View PostSon of Father Light, on 07 October 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

Trull's death was so unexpected and shocking that I smashed my iPhone at a nearby wall( surprising it didn't break).


Ah yes, but I threw my book, which is a nice, durable paperback, rather than my phone, which is not nearly so resilient.


I just say WTF if something pisses me off in one of my books. Why damage or break stuff you pay for? lol


Emotion, that's why. And most of my books are mass market paperbacks. Slight damage in no way affects their function.
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 05:15 AM

View PostKanese S, on 20 October 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

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View PostKanese S, on 08 October 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

View PostSon of Father Light, on 07 October 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

Trull's death was so unexpected and shocking that I smashed my iPhone at a nearby wall( surprising it didn't break).


Ah yes, but I threw my book, which is a nice, durable paperback, rather than my phone, which is not nearly so resilient.


I just say WTF if something pisses me off in one of my books. Why damage or break stuff you pay for? lol


Emotion, that's why. And most of my books are mass market paperbacks. Slight damage in no way affects their function.


I loved the ending, like MoI it wraps up with a beautiful tragedy...
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:37 PM

Yep, Trull and Toc definitely done it for me. Beak was kinda expected towards the end, and Toc was questionable, but Trull. Man. And QB and Hedge's reactions as well. And the inevitable moment of Seren finding out. And Errant is such a colossal prick! Ugh. I mean TCG is pretty emotional but Trull is still the heaviest onet, even beating Whiskeyjack for me.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:14 PM

This is (one of the reasons) why there's an entire user group dedicated pretty much just to hating the Errant.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:34 PM

I'm still crying over Trull's death and it has been three days since I finished Reaper's Gale...
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 07:10 PM

For some reason Trull's death didn't bother me that much. I never got the connection with him as I got with many of the others. It was more of a "why did that happed, well that sucks for him".
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:42 AM

I really liked how he portraited Beak, it was a fresh personality for this series as far as I'm concerned. And yeah, Trull's death caught me completely off guard too, but I wasn't too much bothered with it as his whimpery moments with Onrack had started to really get on my nerves. God damn those two were emotional.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:54 AM

What's so wimpy about emotion?
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:47 AM

In itself, nothing. It's how you go about those emotions that either does or doesn't make them whimpery. I'm all for a bromance every once in a while, but they were just too damned touchy-feely to me, and I simply didn't find it believable. Tool+Toc on the other hand, that was a bromance done right, and it's conclusion in RG was also done well.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 02:06 PM

Also Forkassal said "whimpery" which is like a delicatessen.

Trull's death had to happen with all the foreshadowing that I didn't notice until I read it twice and got on these forums. And I love the character of Toc who dies in every book. I like him up there with Fiddler in dynamic characters, and love the grand way he dies every time. Talk about PTSD.

Hey, do we ever talk about PTSD?
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:46 PM

View PostStalking Stonny, on 07 February 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Also Forkassal said "whimpery" which is like a delicatessen.

Trull's death had to happen with all the foreshadowing that I didn't notice until I read it twice and got on these forums. And I love the character of Toc who dies in every book. I like him up there with Fiddler in dynamic characters, and love the grand way he dies every time. Talk about PTSD.

Hey, do we ever talk about PTSD?

Yeah, those omens were too subtle and too far in-between for me, I simply don't pay THAT much attention to the details. One who actually saw that coming deserves a pat on the shoulder and +1 respect.

And no, there's a good reason for that: "The first rule of PTSD is, you do not talk about PTSD".
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Posted 08 February 2013 - 08:23 AM

View PostForkassal, on 07 February 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

View PostStalking Stonny, on 07 February 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Also Forkassal said "whimpery" which is like a delicatessen.

Trull's death had to happen with all the foreshadowing that I didn't notice until I read it twice and got on these forums. And I love the character of Toc who dies in every book. I like him up there with Fiddler in dynamic characters, and love the grand way he dies every time. Talk about PTSD.

Hey, do we ever talk about PTSD?

Yeah, those omens were too subtle and too far in-between for me, I simply don't pay THAT much attention to the details. One who actually saw that coming deserves a pat on the shoulder and +1 respect.

And no, there's a good reason for that: "The first rule of PTSD is, you do not talk about PTSD".

that's a horrible rule
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