[Osseric]

Sorrit, on 26 September 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

Ive already put my vote down, i suppose i could be willing to change it to osseric if it looks like thats our only viable option

And I wanna live.

so:

Remove Vote
Vote D'riss

[Path-Shaper]

My bedtime doesn't stop the timer, I'm just warning you that if I turn into a pumpkin I won't be able to resolve a lynch or when the last of the sand drifts through the timer.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4, 2 hours and 56 minutes are left.

12 players are left alive.


D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.

3 Votes D'riss: Liosan, Sorrit, Osseric
5 Votes Osseric: Spite, Tellan, Korvalain, Karosis, D'riss
1 Vote Spite: Fener


Players not voting: Emurlahn, Meanas, Olar Ethil

[Sorrit]

the main reason im voting for driss was how he acted after he revealed his pm to bliss, which for all we know could be a complete lie.

He kept bringing up the recruiter despite the consensus being that with eloths early death that the cult is gone, he said he had a case on me which he would show after ps gave his modkill rulling which in my eyes completley failed to appear.

so as i think he is just stiring the pot without helping much i thought id vote for him

[Osseric]

Korvalain, on 25 September 2012 - 02:03 PM, said:

So seeing as Korbas was NK'd, and ended up being an assassin, I'm gonna go back to yesterday's lynch for information, seeing as I think it's high time we start a culture hunt! So one of the things that has my panties in a bunch is this:

Karosis, on 25 September 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

Wasn't able to post this weekend, so I'm glad that it was slow. I'd post some opinions now, but I will be waiting for the CF/to see if an extra vote is needed first.

Firstly, he said he'd be around to lay an extra vote if it was needed, but it wasn't him that hammered Galain, it was Meanas.

Secondly, he could have just laid the vote down. If it hadn't been needed, his vote would not have shown on the lynch list. If it was needed, then it would have.

I think Karosis was just trying to make it seem like he would vote Galain if it was necessary, but he didn't actually want to, so he made it seem like Meanas beat him to it, so as to lay the suspicion on Meanas rather than himself. So, I am thinking that Karosis is probably an Ouchi clan member.

Do we know if Captain would be the leader of a team? Gonna have to go look at some past games again, see if I can get some info there.

I think a member of any clan would know whether their leader is a general or a captain . It seems I'm right about him being an assassin.

[Osseric]

Emurlahn, on 25 September 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 25 September 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

Alright, in Sengoku 2, the factions were made up of - Leader, General, Lieutenant, Spearman

In Sengoku 1, it was a town vs. scum game, so not very helpful.

Either way, no indication of where in the hierarchy a Captain would stand. If we're thinking teams of 4, I am thinking Captain might be just below a Leader, but above everyone else. But that's just instinct, there's no proof to back that up until we start finding some more faction folk with our lynches and kills.

So it would be nice if we could get some discussion on thread. What do people think of Karosis as our next lynch target? Anyone have any other suggestions?

The scene implied captains are leaders, did it not? At least it seemed that way to me. It mentioned lieutenants and underlings, I think.

oooh , and another one.

[Spite]

A little over 2 hours till timeout. Unless we get some vote changes or last minute checks in, we may not get the lynch today. To be safe, I think we need 3 more votes.

[Emurlahn]

Tellan, on 26 September 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:

Yeah, I've got to say, it's pretty disappointing to see us so far through the day with only three votes. I hope there are going to be enough people around at the end of the day to get a lynch.

Continuing on the culture hunt theme, here are my suspects for the Ouchi faction:

Those who provided alternatives to the Galain lynch; D'riss suggested we should continue to look for assassins, Emurlahn attacks Liosan for low-posting, Osseric jumps on the Lio train, and Spite votes Karosis. Significantly, Osseric jumps on the Lio train, which he attributes the beginning of to Korvalain, when it was in actual fact Emur who started it. However, today Osseric is doing everything he can to distance himself from Korvalain, to the point where he is being needlessly confrontational. Spite's vote is also significant, in particular for it's timing. However, I think his reaction has been blown out of proportion by some people, and I'm prepared to reserve judement on him for now.

Those who didn't vote for Galain; Liosan, Osseric, Karosis and Sorrit. Osseric's vote was elsewhere. I'm inclined to believe Karosis, his point that there were 12 hours still in the day was a good one. I'd like to hear from Lio as to why he never commented at all on the case for Galain, instead wasting his time questioning things that had already been comprehensively covered. Sorrit wasn't around towards the end of the day, but when he was he restricted his discussion to assassin and recruiting mechanics. In my opinion, he is more likely to be an independent than a faction member, his conversation shows no interest whatsoever in the faction struggles.

It also struck me as slightly suspicious the speed at which Olar Ethil jumped on Spite's comment about knowing his place in the game. Could just be someone looking for connections to Galain, but in that case why not also question Emurlahn and Osseric for their votes on Lio, which were based on a flimsy low-poster case?

At this stage I think Osseric is our best bet. He didn't vote for Galain, he jumped on the first alternative case offered, even though it was a rubbish low-poster case, and his interactions with Korvalain are important, and will provide us with useful information.

Vote Osseric

I like this analysis.

I thought it was interesting how Osseric jumped on my Liosan vote. He says it was for the same reason that I voted for him (pressuring), but I don't know if I buy it. My vote would have been fine, and he jumped on the first other train than Galain's.

I also think Osseric's obstinance when it comes to Korvalain is strange, and I would like one of their CF's at the least.

[Emurlahn]

Osseric, on 26 September 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 25 September 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 25 September 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

Alright, in Sengoku 2, the factions were made up of - Leader, General, Lieutenant, Spearman

In Sengoku 1, it was a town vs. scum game, so not very helpful.

Either way, no indication of where in the hierarchy a Captain would stand. If we're thinking teams of 4, I am thinking Captain might be just below a Leader, but above everyone else. But that's just instinct, there's no proof to back that up until we start finding some more faction folk with our lynches and kills.

So it would be nice if we could get some discussion on thread. What do people think of Karosis as our next lynch target? Anyone have any other suggestions?

The scene implied captains are leaders, did it not? At least it seemed that way to me. It mentioned lieutenants and underlings, I think.

oooh , and another one.

Implying implications.

[Emurlahn]

Vote Osseric

Higher count and running out of time, like his lynch better anyway.

[Osseric]

Emurlahn, on 26 September 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Vote Osseric

Higher count and running out of time, like his lynch better anyway.

Emur dear, you know I'm not an assassin, so why try to kill me? you will get nothing out of this lynch.

[Emurlahn]

Well, if assassins listen to you, I'll probably die tonight. So might as well get some revenge. Hopefully you truly are Ouchi.

[Spite]

There seems to be considerably more resistance to this lynch.

[Meanas]

checking in, i will be around a little while

[Emurlahn]

We need at least 1 more vote. Possibly 2.

[Spite]

Emurlahn, on 26 September 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

We need at least 1 more vote. Possibly 2.

I would count on 2, but 3 wouldn't hurt since Shin won't be around to tell us if we got a lynch. It would be annoying if he came back and told us no lynch.

[Meanas]

Vote Osseric

because I hope he's not on my team and he's grumpy

Let us see what new info comes from the CF

[Sorrit]

thats probably a lynch, but just in case he needs an extra vote

remove vote

vote osseric

because if i dont and he survives we are going to spend all day tommorow talking about osseric and the resistence

[Olar Ethil]

Catching up. Back with thoughts in a sec

[Olar Ethil]

vote osseric


in case he is a super assassin


Also, I think that D'riss is connected to Osseric. They buddied up on a vote and then when it became clear that Osseric was going down, Osseric did some distancing and jumped on the D'riss train.


Finally, though he is likely dead, I think Osseric had some good points about Korv. and his knowledge of leaders. Very possible assassin there.


Regarding the Lady Bliss info D'riss brought out. PS completely denied Bliss had info pre game. That's good enough for me. I still don't think there is a recruiting mechanic, though the fact that D'riss seems compelled to fear monger the board into believing this lends credence to the fact he might have inside info ,as a leader, which would fit nicely with Osseric distancing from him.