[Korvalain]

D, on 24 September 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Karosis, on 20 September 2012 - 03:37 AM, said:

Had my eats, so a few more comments.

Emurlahn, on 19 September 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

Osseric, on 19 September 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

Meanas, on 19 September 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

Korbas, on 19 September 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

Karosis, on 19 September 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

Second. So who do we go after day one? Or do we just do the japansex thing today?

Odd question. Why do you ask who we go after when you're in the first two posters? Especially strange in a faction game, imo.

I thought it odd too

I guess he was trying to deflect attention . find a suitable lynch target so that you yourself will not be lynched .(Important role not wanting to die on his faction ?)

A defence of Karosis from Osseric?

That was not a defence from Osseric. This is a faction game. That's more along the lines of painting a target. Hey look, this guy is important to not my team.
While I normally don't find role speculation a hint of actual roles, I do find the way Eloth posed it as odd.

Eloth, on 19 September 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

Popping in on a free period. No discussion as of yet. What does everyone think about the assassin mechanic?

1. There was previous discussion.2. It is rare to see someone ask for discussion of one specific role in a faction game. If we assume that the previously posited distribution of four members per team is correct, then there are four roles not being asked about. Normally, someone will at least drop something about another potential role or two to fish for information on who has them.
The OP states the following:

Path-Shaper, on 18 September 2012 - 06:32 AM, said:

Factions:
Each member of a faction knows their leader. The leader of each faction also knows a single member of their faction.
Victory conditions for factions:
Achieve numerical superiority over rival factions. Unaligned assassins are not included when calculating faction numbers.

I reread this after the noise Eloth made about assassins being able to be hired and seeing this post:

Galain, on 19 September 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

The thing that I would point out is that the OP scene setter does make it sound as if assassins will be hired to kill certain people, rather than being completely independent, or is that only my interpretation of it? It doesn't really fit with the assassin VCs though, unless of course they get some info on other assassins in return for 'doing a job'. Or is that too convoluted?

Note that it specifically states the unaligned assassins do not count against victory conditions. Not assassins in general. This makes it seem that both Eloth and Galain may be on to something, that assassins may be or become aligned (kinda doubt it though).
From the sum of these, I have doubts on whether Eloth is an assassin. If they are not an assassin, I still I think they were given information about assasins that I was not, which if it means they can hire assassins makes them more dangerous than an actual assassin. I also do not think they are in my faction so I am fine with voting for Eloth today.

Underlines are mine of course. Eloth does appear to be an independent of some sort. So what about the same reason against Galain? Lunch is almost over. Waiting for more thoughts from Korosis . Love to hear Galain's defense of this.

Would be interesting to hear from Galain for sure. That being said, I don't see there being TWO recruiters. I suppose that there could be two independents, but if we are operating on the idea that there are 3 teams of 4, plus 4 independents, 3 of which are assassins, with the 4th being Eloth and a recruiter, then I don't see any place in there for Galain. I haven't seen anything from Galain that really made me believe he was an assassin.

[Korvalain]

Galain, on 24 September 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Korbas, on 24 September 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

I am in concurrence with korvalain. I also think eloth was a recruiter.

Also, i had a dream anthras killed me. Anthras is not in this game. And i'm dreaming about mafia. What have you people done to me?

So like you, Korbas. Just enough to say you participated, without actually adding anything to the conversation. I don't trust Korbas, I think he's been too sneaky this whole game.

vote Korbas

Geez Galain, I officially crown you the king of doing what you're accusing other people of doing.

You've completely ignored like three questions on thread... Are you purposely trying to dodge some questions that might get you into hot water?

[Galain]

Korvalain, on 24 September 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Geez Galain, I officially crown you the king of doing what you're accusing other people of doing.

You've completely ignored like three questions on thread... Are you purposely trying to dodge some questions that might get you into hot water?

I don't believe there is anything for me to answer to. I already said that my believing what Mockra said was a silly mistake on my part. I just thought he was speaking sense, and so I was happy to vote elsewhere. As it turns out, that would have helped my faction much more than an assassin lynch did.

[Olar Ethil]

Unless you people voting Liosan have good reason to believe he is not on your team, then voting for low posting seems silly. This is faction, not scum vs. town. after 5 posts, I have no read at all on Lio so am not comfortable voting there as it would be a crap shoot. Based on behavior, and his odd behavior regarding Mockra, as well as his seemingly inside knowledge of Korbas (I hate finders in a faction game) I am going to

vote Galain


I am pretty sure he isn't on my team and is a possible independent.

[Olar Ethil]

also, regarding recruitment, I see where you folks are coming from, but I think it's a stretch. Personally, I don't think there is a recruiter in this game. The assassin thing is the wonky mechanic, to throw in recruitment would be a bit much. (Though Shin did say TCMI 8...so it isn't out of the question.) I am going to proceed thinking there is no recruitment mechanic until I see it shown otherwise.

[Korvalain]

Galain, on 24 September 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 24 September 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Geez Galain, I officially crown you the king of doing what you're accusing other people of doing.

You've completely ignored like three questions on thread... Are you purposely trying to dodge some questions that might get you into hot water?

I don't believe there is anything for me to answer to. I already said that my believing what Mockra said was a silly mistake on my part. I just thought he was speaking sense, and so I was happy to vote elsewhere. As it turns out, that would have helped my faction much more than an assassin lynch did.

Are you serious?

Tellan accuses you of contradicting yourself, and thinks you probably have a power role. Olar thinks you could easily be a faction leader that was aligned with Mockra, and D'riss wants to know why you seem to have more information about assassins than the rest of us, and you don't believe there is anything for you to answer to?

The more I look at it, the more I am leaning towards you actually having a power role. If you don't have a power role, you're certainly not doing very well at making yourself seem innocent.

vote Galain

[Sorrit]

Olar Ethil, on 24 September 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

also, regarding recruitment, I see where you folks are coming from, but I think it's a stretch. Personally, I don't think there is a recruiter in this game. The assassin thing is the wonky mechanic, to throw in recruitment would be a bit much. (Though Shin did say TCMI 8...so it isn't out of the question.) I am going to proceed thinking there is no recruitment mechanic until I see it shown otherwise.

I think with eloths death the recruiter mechanic is gone, though i could be wrong, it has happened before

[Korvalain]

Olar Ethil, on 24 September 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

also, regarding recruitment, I see where you folks are coming from, but I think it's a stretch. Personally, I don't think there is a recruiter in this game. The assassin thing is the wonky mechanic, to throw in recruitment would be a bit much. (Though Shin did say TCMI 8...so it isn't out of the question.) I am going to proceed thinking there is no recruitment mechanic until I see it shown otherwise.

Like I said, that's the safest way to deal with that. Besides, knowing whether or not Eloth was a recruiter doesn't really matter anyway, seeing as we lynched him on Day 1. He didn't have time to make any connections or recruit anyone, so who cares, really?

[Meanas]

Korvalain, on 24 September 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

Another random thought regarding the possible recruiting ability:

Everyone remember the unaligned vs aligned assassins thing? If Eloth had been a recruiter, and he recruited an assassin, then the assassin would have become an aligned assassin. Could explain that unaligned assassins thing. Just throwing it out there.

I think this makes sense

[Meanas]

Sorrit, on 24 September 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 24 September 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

also, regarding recruitment, I see where you folks are coming from, but I think it's a stretch. Personally, I don't think there is a recruiter in this game. The assassin thing is the wonky mechanic, to throw in recruitment would be a bit much. (Though Shin did say TCMI 8...so it isn't out of the question.) I am going to proceed thinking there is no recruitment mechanic until I see it shown otherwise.

I think with eloths death the recruiter mechanic is gone, though i could be wrong, it has happened before

I can't see why you would accept the recruiting mechanic, then assume it's gone so easily, unless you either know something we don't, or want us to stop worrying about it because you are one too. Just saying.

[D'riss]

Korvalain said:

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D said:

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Karosis said:

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I reread this after the noise Eloth made about assassins being able to be hired and seeing this post:

Galain said:

1348086843[/url]' post='995600']The thing that I would point out is that the OP scene setter does make it sound as if assassins will be hired to kill certain people, rather than being completely independent, or is that only my interpretation of it? It doesn't really fit with the assassin VCs though, unless of course they get some info on other assassins in return for 'doing a job'. Or is that too convoluted?

Note that it specifically states the unaligned assassins do not count against victory conditions. Not assassins in general. This makes it seem that both Eloth and Galain may be on to something, that assassins may be or become aligned (kinda doubt it though).
From the sum of these, I have doubts on whether Eloth is an assassin. If they are not an assassin, I still I think they were given information about assasins that I was not, which if it means they can hire assassins makes them more dangerous than an actual assassin. I also do not think they are in my faction so I am fine with voting for Eloth today.

Underlines are mine of course. Eloth does appear to be an independent of some sort. So what about the same reason against Galain? Lunch is almost over. Waiting for more thoughts from Korosis . Love to hear Galain's defense of this.

Would be interesting to hear from Galain for sure. That being said, I don't see there being TWO recruiters. I suppose that there could be two independents, but if we are operating on the idea that there are 3 teams of 4, plus 4 independents, 3 of which are assassins, with the 4th being Eloth and a recruiter, then I don't see any place in there for Galain. I haven't seen anything from Galain that really made me believe he was an assassin.

Olar Ethil said:

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Unless you people voting Liosan have good reason to believe he is not on your team, then voting for low posting seems silly. This is faction, not scum vs. town. after 5 posts, I have no read at all on Lio so am not comfortable voting there as it would be a crap shoot. Based on behavior, and his odd behavior regarding Mockra, as well as his seemingly inside knowledge of Korbas (I hate finders in a faction game) I am going to

vote Galain


I am pretty sure he isn't on my team and is a possible independent.

Since the train is building that way I will jump on it. I think Galain is a faction leader.
Edit: agreeing with Korosis that the ability to hire assassins makes him more dangerous than the assassin.


Vote Galain

This post has been edited by D'riss: 24 September 2012 - 06:30 PM

[Osseric]

Korvalain, on 24 September 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

Osseric, on 24 September 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

Liosan is annoying with his lowposting . (not that I've been much better myself, )

I say we put a couple of votes on him , If he doesn't show up we kill him off.

btw , maybe Korv brought up this Lio thing to deflect from Galain ?

Vote Lio


for pressure reasons.

I didn't bring anything up re: Lio. If anything, I suggested we not vote low-posters. I would be much happier voting for Galain than Liosan. At least we get SOME information (albeit very little) if we vote out Galain, whereas we get NO information if we vote out Liosan.

What's with your hard-on for me?

You said it , I've got a hard-on for you .

[Sorrit]

Meanas, on 24 September 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 24 September 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 24 September 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

also, regarding recruitment, I see where you folks are coming from, but I think it's a stretch. Personally, I don't think there is a recruiter in this game. The assassin thing is the wonky mechanic, to throw in recruitment would be a bit much. (Though Shin did say TCMI 8...so it isn't out of the question.) I am going to proceed thinking there is no recruitment mechanic until I see it shown otherwise.

I think with eloths death the recruiter mechanic is gone, though i could be wrong, it has happened before

I can't see why you would accept the recruiting mechanic, then assume it's gone so easily, unless you either know something we don't, or want us to stop worrying about it because you are one too. Just saying.

I cant see there being more than one recruiter in this game, and with eloths death on day one before he had chance to recruit I believe its gone

[Spite]

Holy lynch trains batman! How many votes does Galain have on him?

At this point, I don't see that we need to do a low poster hunt. I find them annoying yes, but it's day 3 on a faction game, so I think we get more information on who votes where.

[Spite]

OK, here's my count:

It is Day 3. 18 hours and 35 minutes are left in the day.

14 players are left alive.


D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


8 votes to lynch, 7 to go to night.

5 Votes Galain: Fener, Tellan, Olar Ethil, Korvalain, D'riss
2 vote Liosan: Emurlahn, Osseric
1 vote Korbas: Galain


Players not voting:
Karosis, Korbas, Liosan, Meanas, Sorrit, Spite

[Korbas]

Galain, on 24 September 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Korbas, on 24 September 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

I am in concurrence with korvalain. I also think eloth was a recruiter.

Also, i had a dream anthras killed me. Anthras is not in this game. And i'm dreaming about mafia. What have you people done to me?

So like you, Korbas. Just enough to say you participated, without actually adding anything to the conversation. I don't trust Korbas, I think he's been too sneaky this whole game.

vote Korbas

I could quote posts where i'm participating. But i'm too lazy, and i found something awesome.

Its this bag. Idk what's in it. It could be a bag of delicious sugarcane for all i know.

You should, ya know, suck it. A bag of it.



Dicks.

[Spite]

I'm really wondering why we haven't had any NKs. The OP clearly stated that the assassins VC is to "Be the last assassin standing". So what is preventing them?

1) A limited # of kills?
2) Hiring mechanic?
3) Wasn't there something in the Batman game where the Batman had to do a find first then a kill?

So after night 1, Mockra's first post is talking about going after Karosis out of the blue.

Mockra, on 21 September 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

As for doing something useful, while I reach for the aspirin bottle, Korosis scared the crap out of me yesterday. He's way too fucking smart for our continued good health. I think I could easily be talked into just a "let's all lynch the bright person in the next 3 hours".

I think Mockra had information on Karosis that he wanted to try and get a case on.

Vote Karosis

[Korbas]

Spite, on 24 September 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

I'm really wondering why we haven't had any NKs. The OP clearly stated that the assassins VC is to "Be the last assassin standing". So what is preventing them?

1) A limited # of kills?
2) Hiring mechanic?
3) Wasn't there something in the Batman game where the Batman had to do a find first then a kill?

So after night 1, Mockra's first post is talking about going after Karosis out of the blue.

Mockra, on 21 September 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

As for doing something useful, while I reach for the aspirin bottle, Korosis scared the crap out of me yesterday. He's way too fucking smart for our continued good health. I think I could easily be talked into just a "let's all lynch the bright person in the next 3 hours".

I think Mockra had information on Karosis that he wanted to try and get a case on.

Vote Karosis

I agree with this completely. I also believe that if Galain turns out to be a faction leader, you're one of his.

[Sorrit]

Spite, on 24 September 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

I'm really wondering why we haven't had any NKs. The OP clearly stated that the assassins VC is to "Be the last assassin standing". So what is preventing them?

1) A limited # of kills?
2) Hiring mechanic?
3) Wasn't there something in the Batman game where the Batman had to do a find first then a kill?

So after night 1, Mockra's first post is talking about going after Karosis out of the blue.

Mockra, on 21 September 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

As for doing something useful, while I reach for the aspirin bottle, Korosis scared the crap out of me yesterday. He's way too fucking smart for our continued good health. I think I could easily be talked into just a "let's all lynch the bright person in the next 3 hours".

I think Mockra had information on Karosis that he wanted to try and get a case on.

Vote Karosis

if mockra, a comfimed assassin, had info on karosis, and tried to lynch him then I would assume that karosis is an assassin aswell

[Emurlahn]

Yeah, I see your points on not lynching a low poster. It just pisses me off that we let people get away with not posting at all.

Remove Vote

Vote Galain

Also, ironically, the person defending Liosan the most is Olar Ethil, the second lowest poster.