[12davargo]

Ok so I'm a little over halfway through MOI (so try not to spoil the end) and Paran just finished his mind conversation with Nightchill. The entire conversation Paran calls her Nightchill but then she calls Draconus her brother, at this point I came to the conclusion that she was the brother of both K'rul and Draconus (I don't know her name but she is mentioned earlier) and that Paran had been calling her the wrong name and she chose not to correct him. Towards the end of the conversation she refers to herself as Nightchill.

I have many issues with this as unless the sister of Draconus has many names it makes no sense to me, if Nightchill is his sister then she is a elder god...which she is not (as far as I can tell remember I'm 1/2 way through)

If anyone can clarify this without ruining the plot I would greatly appreciate it, if not just tell me to RAFO

Thanks guys!

[worry]

Sister of Cold Nights=Nightchill

[Kanese S's]

Yep. Remember the prologue, and which three elder gods confront Kallor.

Nightchill is, as Kallor even says, a fairly obvious pseudonym for the Sister of Cold Nights.

[Manask]

In the prologue she says, that she will keep on playing the mortal's game. This means, she takes on a mortal form (e.g. human). She is Nightchill at the time of the malazan empire.

[Imperial Spectre]

12davargo, on 05 September 2012 - 02:10 AM, said:

Ok so I'm a little over halfway through MOI (so try not to spoil the end) and Paran just finished his mind conversation with Nightchill. The entire conversation Paran calls her Nightchill but then she calls Draconus her brother, at this point I came to the conclusion that she was the brother of both K'rul and Draconus (I don't know her name but she is mentioned earlier) and that Paran had been calling her the wrong name and she chose not to correct him. Towards the end of the conversation she refers to herself as Nightchill.

I have many issues with this as unless the sister of Draconus has many names it makes no sense to me, if Nightchill is his sister then she is a elder god...which she is not (as far as I can tell remember I'm 1/2 way through)

If anyone can clarify this without ruining the plot I would greatly appreciate it, if not just tell me to RAFO

Thanks guys!

She is the sister of cold night in the prologue. She is an elder god that wanted to live among the humans. And Kallor cursed her saying she would get ripped apart one day (which she did by the demon tayschrenn in the Garden of the Moon). Also in these books you have to read every line and think about it deeply. Each line has a hidden meaning and the book does never tell you anything really straight out.

[Rodders]

Haha, I was about to post the very same question as the OP, I'm also only halfway through.
I find it hard to believe that an elder goddess would be so easy to kill, Tattersail survived the attack at Pale, surely Nightchill should have also survived.
When she said in the prologue that she would continue in the games of mortals, I didn't think it would be as a cadre mage. Surely someone of that immense power would not get involved in such mundane day to day stuff as that of a cadre mage.
Anyway it is what i it is I suppose.

[worry]

The prologue scene takes place multi-millennia ago, so it predates the Malazan Empire by a long long time. She hasn't spent all that time in any one role, but dabbles as she likes. Tattersail survived Pale in part because she wasn't ripped into pieces by a demon. That might put a damper on anyone's lifespan.

[Rodders]

Fair point, but surely an elder goddess would be more than a match for said demon. I see your point, I just think she died a bit too easily.

[Dutch]

Well, it has been mentioned before that even the most powerful God could as easily be slain as a mortal, can't exactly remember where.

Nightchill was caught by surprise while she already was fighting A'kronys (the other High Mage besides Tay and Bellurdan) while Tattersail had Calot at her side which had cast a protective spell over her and also gave his life for her.

[Rodders]

Thanks, that is true, I remember it now. I knew you guys would put my mind at rest. Cheers.

[Kanese S's]

Rodders, on 20 September 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

Fair point, but surely an elder goddess would be more than a match for said demon. I see your point, I just think she died a bit too easily.

She wasn't expecting said demon. Not even an elder deity can do much if they don't have time to react.

[Rodders]

Just reread the prologue and it makes a lot more sense about her death.

[Redwine]

I think that the most common misconception about the books is that they follow a standard fantasy rules. For example - immense power in the Malazan series doe not, by any means, mean being indestructible. I think this is the best part of the books. All gods, daemons, creatures, races, spirits, and everything in between are vulnerable at certain points, and that makes them relatable and interesting.
I love it when Quick Ben enjoys the thought of outwitting the Crippled God.: "Fallen One, but that means you'll have to outwit me. Forget the gods and their clumsy games, I'll have you crawling in circles before long..."

[IgnatiusKruppe]

Kallors curses weren't predictions, they were condemnations. Somehow locking these Gods into their fate.
The fates of the 3 Elders intertwine into this convergence. Sister Of Cold Nights fought as many mortals in many wars under Nightchill or similar names according to Quick Ben. Her dying when she did and where and how she did was a prerequisite to everything that happens afterwards.