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And finally, me and Sil/Dresden/Venge:

Path-Shaper, on 21 August 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

Silanah and Anthras may now speak off-thread in here, and only in here. Have fun.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

WTF... Your a person and not just a air element in my imagination.....

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 04:21 PM, said:

So first off Anthras What do you know?


Osseric
telas

are both winter


Ano is Odin

Rashan is the archive

That is what I know.

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

Ok. I really AM Bob the Skull! What do you know. I'm very glad this worked out, and it means for sure there is at least one Fomor still alive, otherwise your VCs would be complete. Also, don't let me die or get lynched, otherwise you can't win. So now our VCs are intermingled, which is good.

So my first thought is that I know your VCs and we need to find the last Fomor. My first suspicion is D'riss, then Telas (could have been recruited, not sure how current your info is).

I have your entire role PM and Anomander's minus who your teammates are (because I'm Bob the Skull and finding shit out is what I do best). This is how we (Fener/Mac and I) came up with the plan to get you to come to the pub and make a handoff, because he truly is neutral and he needs to survive. I am loyal to Fener because of how we've played this game, so thanks for not killing him to make sure I fell into your hands, and absolutely let's not lynch him unless something crazy happens, because Fener and I have played this game together so far as a team and we decided after all the info we gathered that we would side with you because we thought we could help you achieve your VCs and end the game while we were still alive. He and I need to be alive at game's end to win. He is Mac, for sure, and if he was the Fomor recruit, I do not think he would have gone along with my plan to get you to the pub and have him give me to you. He sacrificed a lot of power and made himself vulnerable to get me to you, so let's return the favor.

Second, yes, Anom is Odin, his power level is 8, he has a shit ton of abilities I can go into if you want, and his VCs are to make sure you and he are alive at the end of the game. So he should be protecting you at all costs.

I don't know how much you know about my abilities (probably a lot), but I can do finds, location finds, I can boost your defensive power level by 1 for a night, or I can find out who is finding me. I can also use my day action to get the full role PMs of two players, but it prevents me from performing actions for a full day/night cycle.

I know that Emur is Blackstaff through Fener. Most of what Fener revealed came from my finds and his ability to know who comes to his pub. I know Lio is Kincade, power level 4. Lio is protecting Rashan for sure then. Not sure what their VCs are. Not sure about Emur's VCs either.

I found Atrahal night 2 and that's when we decided to let Fener mass-reveal to get Nico lynched. He shouldn't have outed Emur, but it worked in the end somehow with Lincoln Park and the vines bit.

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

In order for me to use my 24 Hours ability, I have to bargain with you and you have to agree to let me use it. I say this is our best shot - I go use this ability right now, I get the role PMs of D'riss and one other (Telas?) so at least we have something to start with, even if it may not show us the recruit's allegiance. Or we wait tonight and I do a find on one of them, but I don't get faction, just role name and power level. So I feel the day action is still better.

I think we are on the verge of winning the game if we can find and lynch the last Fomor, since that's obviously the only VC you have left.

So, thoughts?

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Also, are we in Demonreach? Not sure of my location, P-S didn't update me. Not a bad idea to hide out there for now if you aren't already.

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

I also just signalled Anomander in my post that I know for sure who he is, because I referenced partial names of almost all of his abilities. It will look weird on thread, but I don't want him to do anything stupid and try to kill me or Fener. He says he knows who I am, which is obviously why he's been spouting all the stuff about Bob being a player (STFU ANOMANDER GOD DAMN), which was really annoying. Anyway, anything to get him to pay the fuck attention and stop suspecting Fener for the moment is probably a good idea.

If Fener was recruited, I just can't see him going along with all the Fomor lynches and also passing me off to you. So I think he's absolutely cleared.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

Ok. I really AM Bob the Skull! What do you know. I'm very glad this worked out, and it means for sure there is at least one Fomor still alive, otherwise your VCs would be complete. Also, don't let me die or get lynched, otherwise you can't win. So now our VCs are intermingled, which is good.

So my first thought is that I know your VCs and we need to find the last Fomor. My first suspicion is D'riss, then Telas (could have been recruited, not sure how current your info is).

I have your entire role PM and Anomander's minus who your teammates are (because I'm Bob the Skull and finding shit out is what I do best). This is how we (Fener/Mac and I) came up with the plan to get you to come to the pub and make a handoff, because he truly is neutral and he needs to survive. I am loyal to Fener because of how we've played this game, so thanks for not killing him to make sure I fell into your hands, and absolutely let's not lynch him unless something crazy happens, because Fener and I have played this game together so far as a team and we decided after all the info we gathered that we would side with you because we thought we could help you achieve your VCs and end the game while we were still alive. He and I need to be alive at game's end to win. He is Mac, for sure, and if he was the Fomor recruit, I do not think he would have gone along with my plan to get you to the pub and have him give me to you. He sacrificed a lot of power and made himself vulnerable to get me to you, so let's return the favor.

Second, yes, Anom is Odin, his power level is 8, he has a shit ton of abilities I can go into if you want, and his VCs are to make sure you and he are alive at the end of the game. So he should be protecting you at all costs.

I don't know how much you know about my abilities (probably a lot), but I can do finds, location finds, I can boost your defensive power level by 1 for a night, or I can find out who is finding me. I can also use my day action to get the full role PMs of two players, but it prevents me from performing actions for a full day/night cycle.

I know that Emur is Blackstaff through Fener. Most of what Fener revealed came from my finds and his ability to know who comes to his pub. I know Lio is Kincade, power level 4. Lio is protecting Rashan for sure then. Not sure what their VCs are. Not sure about Emur's VCs either.

I found Atrahal night 2 and that's when we decided to let Fener mass-reveal to get Nico lynched. He shouldn't have outed Emur, but it worked in the end somehow with Lincoln Park and the vines bit.

Fener has tempted me to kill him on multiple occasions. The night that he went to LP I came into the bar to get you...hehehe of course if he had stayed then Macy would have killed him off.

Telas is Lea and osseric is Mab. They are both level 5's. There VC is to take out Fomor and Summer. I told them that I too needed to take out summer but I don't. Of course they have been super helpful so far in the game so I don't have a problem helping them out.

Telas forced Ano to take an action against Amp last night. Osseric is the one who can freeze an entire area every night.

Osseric can put someone into a ice box where they can't move to attack or to heal leaving them open for a killing shot.

I doubt that Telas has been recruited. I think that Eloth, Driss, Amp are summer and or Fomor. They are the only players who haven't been found. Eloth and Driss are both the ones that are attacking Telas for being a fomor. So they could be summer and Amp could be the last fomor.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Also, are we in Demonreach? Not sure of my location, P-S didn't update me. Not a bad idea to hide out there for now if you aren't already.

I wasn't sure how long I had to stay in the stupid bar to get you. So we are still in the fucking bar. However come night fall we are hightailing it back to the island. On the island I know everyone else who is there and I get a bonus of +3 power taking me to 10. Which is why Atrahal was so pissed because he couldn't do shit to me as long as I stayed on the island.

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Also, are we in Demonreach? Not sure of my location, P-S didn't update me. Not a bad idea to hide out there for now if you aren't already.

I wasn't sure how long I had to stay in the stupid bar to get you. So we are still in the fucking bar. However come night fall we are hightailing it back to the island. On the island I know everyone else who is there and I get a bonus of +3 power taking me to 10. Which is why Atrahal was so pissed because he couldn't do shit to me as long as I stayed on the island.

Yeah, exactly, I know about the +3 boost which is why I suggested we go hide out. Atrahal is probably so pissed at how all this went down. Great job giving Emur knowledge of how to kill Nico, btw.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

In order for me to use my 24 Hours ability, I have to bargain with you and you have to agree to let me use it. I say this is our best shot - I go use this ability right now, I get the role PMs of D'riss and one other (Telas?) so at least we have something to start with, even if it may not show us the recruit's allegiance. Or we wait tonight and I do a find on one of them, but I don't get faction, just role name and power level. So I feel the day action is still better.

I think we are on the verge of winning the game if we can find and lynch the last Fomor, since that's obviously the only VC you have left.

So, thoughts?

Do you want me to let you loose in the bar or would you rather wait until we get back to the island. I think that you should get the role pms of Amp and Driss.

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Anom can do finds, he can submit NKs on people both in his location and NOT in his location, and he can prevent someone from moving locations at night. He also has a one time ability that allows him to freeze EVERYTHING and skips night for everyone alive.

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Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Also, are we in Demonreach? Not sure of my location, P-S didn't update me. Not a bad idea to hide out there for now if you aren't already.

I wasn't sure how long I had to stay in the stupid bar to get you. So we are still in the fucking bar. However come night fall we are hightailing it back to the island. On the island I know everyone else who is there and I get a bonus of +3 power taking me to 10. Which is why Atrahal was so pissed because he couldn't do shit to me as long as I stayed on the island.

Yeah, exactly, I know about the +3 boost which is why I suggested we go hide out. Atrahal is probably so pissed at how all this went down. Great job giving Emur knowledge of how to kill Nico, btw.

You know about that? WOW... He was the only one who figured out on day one when I was talking about how Dresden probably knew everyone who went to the island, he came to the island and I told him the information. I was worried about telling it to everyone because I didn't know if they were Denarians or not and would tell Nico.

I figured that only allies would come to the island. Everyone had to know that I would be over powering there.

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

In order for me to use my 24 Hours ability, I have to bargain with you and you have to agree to let me use it. I say this is our best shot - I go use this ability right now, I get the role PMs of D'riss and one other (Telas?) so at least we have something to start with, even if it may not show us the recruit's allegiance. Or we wait tonight and I do a find on one of them, but I don't get faction, just role name and power level. So I feel the day action is still better.

I think we are on the verge of winning the game if we can find and lynch the last Fomor, since that's obviously the only VC you have left.

So, thoughts?

Do you want me to let you loose in the bar or would you rather wait until we get back to the island. I think that you should get the role pms of Amp and Driss.

Regardless of when you let me go, I still stay with you as your item and we can talk - I just can't perform any NAs or day actions until the next night starts. So no point waiting until we're on Demonreach, but we should still hightail it over there.

I say we go get some PM info, baby, that will help us more than anything. Although, it looks like D'riss may get lynched - do we still want to find him, or trust that he's getting strung up no matter what?

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Also, are we in Demonreach? Not sure of my location, P-S didn't update me. Not a bad idea to hide out there for now if you aren't already.

I wasn't sure how long I had to stay in the stupid bar to get you. So we are still in the fucking bar. However come night fall we are hightailing it back to the island. On the island I know everyone else who is there and I get a bonus of +3 power taking me to 10. Which is why Atrahal was so pissed because he couldn't do shit to me as long as I stayed on the island.

Yeah, exactly, I know about the +3 boost which is why I suggested we go hide out. Atrahal is probably so pissed at how all this went down. Great job giving Emur knowledge of how to kill Nico, btw.

You know about that? WOW... He was the only one who figured out on day one when I was talking about how Dresden probably knew everyone who went to the island, he came to the island and I told him the information. I was worried about telling it to everyone because I didn't know if they were Denarians or not and would tell Nico.

I figured that only allies would come to the island. Everyone had to know that I would be over powering there.

Yep, Bob the Skull knows all. Ok, not all, but a lot. Still, good play by both of you, and Emur has restrained himself since then it seems, which is also good.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Anom can do finds, he can submit NKs on people both in his location and NOT in his location, and he can prevent someone from moving locations at night. He also has a one time ability that allows him to freeze EVERYTHING and skips night for everyone alive.

HOLLY FUCKING HARRY BALLS BATMAN!!!!!


He is Brujah.... He must have pissed himself when he read that.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Also, are we in Demonreach? Not sure of my location, P-S didn't update me. Not a bad idea to hide out there for now if you aren't already.

I wasn't sure how long I had to stay in the stupid bar to get you. So we are still in the fucking bar. However come night fall we are hightailing it back to the island. On the island I know everyone else who is there and I get a bonus of +3 power taking me to 10. Which is why Atrahal was so pissed because he couldn't do shit to me as long as I stayed on the island.

Yeah, exactly, I know about the +3 boost which is why I suggested we go hide out. Atrahal is probably so pissed at how all this went down. Great job giving Emur knowledge of how to kill Nico, btw.

You know about that? WOW... He was the only one who figured out on day one when I was talking about how Dresden probably knew everyone who went to the island, he came to the island and I told him the information. I was worried about telling it to everyone because I didn't know if they were Denarians or not and would tell Nico.

I figured that only allies would come to the island. Everyone had to know that I would be over powering there.

Yep, Bob the Skull knows all. Ok, not all, but a lot. Still, good play by both of you, and Emur has restrained himself since then it seems, which is also good.

It is coming down to the wire and he doesn't want to be the one to initiate the war between summer and Winter. I suspect that part of his VC is to not kill someone from one of the courts.

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Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

In order for me to use my 24 Hours ability, I have to bargain with you and you have to agree to let me use it. I say this is our best shot - I go use this ability right now, I get the role PMs of D'riss and one other (Telas?) so at least we have something to start with, even if it may not show us the recruit's allegiance. Or we wait tonight and I do a find on one of them, but I don't get faction, just role name and power level. So I feel the day action is still better.

I think we are on the verge of winning the game if we can find and lynch the last Fomor, since that's obviously the only VC you have left.

So, thoughts?

Do you want me to let you loose in the bar or would you rather wait until we get back to the island. I think that you should get the role pms of Amp and Driss.

Regardless of when you let me go, I still stay with you as your item and we can talk - I just can't perform any NAs or day actions until the next night starts. So no point waiting until we're on Demonreach, but we should still hightail it over there.

I say we go get some PM info, baby, that will help us more than anything. Although, it looks like D'riss may get lynched - do we still want to find him, or trust that he's getting strung up no matter what?

If we think that you are right. If we assume that he is lynched then we should go for Amp and Eloth.


Also Tapper?

Ok, agreed, either D'riss and Amp or Eloth and Amp. How confident are we that we can lynch D'riss?

And, are you asking if I'm Tapper? No, it's your good buddy ansible, who else? Vengy, right?

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

I highly doubt that the Fae can be recruited. They have been at war with the Fomor way to often to be able to be recruited by them.

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

I highly doubt that the Fae can be recruited. They have been at war with the Fomor way to often to be able to be recruited by them.

I meant whether they could RECRUIT, cause Anom is only safe from recruiting by humans. Logically this means to me that only the fae or a vampire could recruit him, and we know Summer/Winter are in the game. But it's doubtful.

I'm about to head out for an hour or so, but I can submit my ability first- what do you think, D'riss or Eloth? I almost say Eloth because D'riss is on the chopping block, so whatever we gather from him isn't going to help us much. But what do you think?

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Ok, agreed, either D'riss and Amp or Eloth and Amp. How confident are we that we can lynch D'riss?

And, are you asking if I'm Tapper? No, it's your good buddy ansible, who else? Vengy, right?

Well done ansi I thought that you where Tapper. If I had figured out it was you I might have taken a shot at you like I did with Liosan (mental).

Well all of winter will vote for him, Telas and Osseric where pratically begging me to get you to vote for him.

Osseric
Telas
Me
You
Fener (already)
Ano (already)
Liosan (probably)
Rashan (along with Liosan)
Emur (?)


If Driss is summer then Eloth won't vote for him. If Amp is summer then he won't vote for him. If Amp is Fomor then he will.

So a strong possibility of a lynch.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

I highly doubt that the Fae can be recruited. They have been at war with the Fomor way to often to be able to be recruited by them.

I meant whether they could RECRUIT, cause Anom is only safe from recruiting by humans. Logically this means to me that only the fae or a vampire could recruit him, and we know Summer/Winter are in the game. But it's doubtful.

I'm about to head out for an hour or so, but I can submit my ability first- what do you think, D'riss or Eloth? I almost say Eloth because D'riss is on the chopping block, so whatever we gather from him isn't going to help us much. But what do you think?

If you can do two then do Amp and Eloth. If you can only do one then do Amp. I think that Eloth is summer.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

I highly doubt that the Fae can be recruited. They have been at war with the Fomor way to often to be able to be recruited by them.

I meant whether they could RECRUIT, cause Anom is only safe from recruiting by humans. Logically this means to me that only the fae or a vampire could recruit him, and we know Summer/Winter are in the game. But it's doubtful.

I'm about to head out for an hour or so, but I can submit my ability first- what do you think, D'riss or Eloth? I almost say Eloth because D'riss is on the chopping block, so whatever we gather from him isn't going to help us much. But what do you think?

They can't recruit. I think that Mab had some deal with Nico. But then they both got a PM saying something and started to go after the Denarians like crazy.

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Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:

Yeah probably so, we might have to wait awhile.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Ok, agreed, either D'riss and Amp or Eloth and Amp. How confident are we that we can lynch D'riss?

And, are you asking if I'm Tapper? No, it's your good buddy ansible, who else? Vengy, right?

Well done ansi I thought that you where Tapper. If I had figured out it was you I might have taken a shot at you like I did with Liosan (mental).

Lol, good! I'm glad you didn't, and you would have been pretty upset as well. I actually try to imitate Tapper's style fairly often when I play, so maybe this time it was just subconscious.

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 12:31 AM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:

Yeah probably so, we might have to wait awhile.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Ok, agreed, either D'riss and Amp or Eloth and Amp. How confident are we that we can lynch D'riss?

And, are you asking if I'm Tapper? No, it's your good buddy ansible, who else? Vengy, right?

Well done ansi I thought that you where Tapper. If I had figured out it was you I might have taken a shot at you like I did with Liosan (mental).

Lol, good! I'm glad you didn't, and you would have been pretty upset as well. I actually try to imitate Tapper's style fairly often when I play, so maybe this time it was just subconscious.

Oh I don't know. I can't kill people who I know in the books on my first try. Instead I find out who they are. It would have taken me two try's to have killed Fener. I was tempted though. Especially when he kept egging Emur(maccy) on.

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

I am starting to think that amp is fomor. I think that Rashan did a find on Driss and told Liosan. That is why liosan won't vote for Driss. Winters VC is that summer can't win. They don't have to eliminate summer that just have to make sure that summer can't win. We need those finds on Eloth and Amp. With that information this game can be over.

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

I got Osseric to let it slip that they don't need to kill off summer to win. They just need to prevent summer from winning. I told them that I needed to maintain balance or something. I made it up. Osseric seemed to buy it. They don't really have a choice. I am the only one who can kill.

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 02:56 AM, said:

Going to bed

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

Action info is back.

Eloth and Amp are both Summer. VCs are not to let Summer win and defeat Fomor. LP is homebase. Amp is Lily, PL 6, Eloth is Wizard Gruff, PL 6. If they are in the same location, their PLs are combined for defense purposes. Lily can command Eloth to perform actions; she's also the one who put up the vines around LP.

Eloth can find, but her abilities have NO effect on you, and yours none on her, kinda weird, but that's what it says. Heading to work, more info then. Not sure where we go, one of them could have been recruited but otherwise their VCs are to kill Fomor.

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

Action info is back.

Eloth and Amp are both Summer. VCs are not to let Summer win and defeat Fomor. LP is homebase. Amp is Lily, PL 6, Eloth is Wizard Gruff, PL 6. If they are in the same location, their PLs are combined for defense purposes. Lily can command Eloth to perform actions; she's also the one who put up the vines around LP.

Eloth can find, but her abilities have NO effect on you, and yours none on her, kinda weird, but that's what it says. Heading to work, more info then. Not sure where we go, one of them could have been recruited but otherwise their VCs are to kill Fomor.

Wait there VC's are not to let summer win????? If they are both summer then shouldn't it be to not let winter win?

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

Hey can you point out that Driss is a super low poster who has only started to come on not that he is under pressure for possibly being a Denarian.

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

Action info is back.

Eloth and Amp are both Summer. VCs are not to let Summer win and defeat Fomor. LP is homebase. Amp is Lily, PL 6, Eloth is Wizard Gruff, PL 6. If they are in the same location, their PLs are combined for defense purposes. Lily can command Eloth to perform actions; she's also the one who put up the vines around LP.

Eloth can find, but her abilities have NO effect on you, and yours none on her, kinda weird, but that's what it says. Heading to work, more info then. Not sure where we go, one of them could have been recruited but otherwise their VCs are to kill Fomor.

Wait there VC's are not to let summer win????? If they are both summer then shouldn't it be to not let winter win?

Yeah, I'm an idiot, their VC's are not to let the Winter Court have a chance at victory, as close as I can quote it. They are summer for sure.

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

We need to take one of them out.

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Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

You mean Eloth or Amp?

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

I was just about to post reinforcing the D'riss case but it seems like that has been derailed, because the Summer VCs are to defeat the Fomor and prevent Winter from achieving their VCs. So, my guess is, even if they know D'riss is likely the last Fomor, they don't want him dead till they take care of Summer.

What we need is for Anomander to take out D'riss tonight, which I'm almost positive he could do. If D'riss dies and he's the last Fomor, game over. All the better if we lynch someone from Summer.

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

More info from the PMs:

Eloth - Wizard Gruff - PL 6

Can do a find, getting Role Name and location at end of Night.
NK ability, doesn't say if it's location-specific or not. It does say it somehow hurts their power if they aren't killed by it. I'm assuming it means their PL goes down permanently or something.
Can bring someone into a specified location for a full day and night. (Thank God his abilities don't work on you).

Amp - Lily - PL 6

Can prevent all actions at her location to stop, in or out, for the night.
Prevent someone from moving or doing any day or night actions for a day/night cycle.
Can order Eloth to do stuff, can only be used once every so often.

ALSO I'M A FUCKING IDIOT - I said up there that if Amp and Eloth were in the same location, their PLs were combined for defense purposes. THIS WAS A TYPO - IT WAS D'RISS AND NOT ELOTH. So D'riss must have been Summer originally, recruit or not. So if Amp and D'riss are in the same location, their PLs are combined for defense..

Thoughts on new info?

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

I don't know if Driss is a recruit. I think that he might be summer still. Either way he has to go. We are committed to preventing summer from winning.

It sounds like lilly has similar powers to Osseric. So if Amp and Driss are in the same location then their Pl's are combined for defense. hmmm....


Fuck I can't kill Eloth can I...Fuck... I bet that if Amp and Driss are in the same location then both of their powers take their level to 10 or something that will prevent me from killing them.

Telas and Osseric can both prevent someone from doing anything for a day and night cycle. The question becomes if I can't kill Eloth or Amp because I don't effect Eloth and Amp can prevent all actions at her location then Driss is the only one who I can attack. If we can lynch Driss then I can go to the island and nobody can attack me there. If we can't lynch him then I am going to have to try to kill him which if he is with Eloth I won't be able to do....Bugger... This is a pickle

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

I can attack with either Fire or Ice.... Do you know if Eloth is more susceptible to one over the other. I know that Summer usually uses fire attacks while winter usually uses Ice attacks. That is why Mab took away harrys staff so that summer couldn't follow him when he used fire attacks.

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

I don't know if Driss is a recruit. I think that he might be summer still. Either way he has to go. We are committed to preventing summer from winning.

It sounds like lilly has similar powers to Osseric. So if Amp and Driss are in the same location then their Pl's are combined for defense. hmmm....


Fuck I can't kill Eloth can I...Fuck... I bet that if Amp and Driss are in the same location then both of their powers take their level to 10 or something that will prevent me from killing them.

Telas and Osseric can both prevent someone from doing anything for a day and night cycle. The question becomes if I can't kill Eloth or Amp because I don't effect Eloth and Amp can prevent all actions at her location then Driss is the only one who I can attack. If we can lynch Driss then I can go to the island and nobody can attack me there. If we can't lynch him then I am going to have to try to kill him which if he is with Eloth I won't be able to do....Bugger... This is a pickle

Yeah, you can't perform any actions on Eloth at all, from what I understand, so that's out the window. HOWEVER - we could get Anomander to kill Eloth. He has the ability to call in a hit squad from any location and perform an NK, plus his powerlevel is 8.

About the underlined part above - I know I was confusing, but Eloth's PL never gets bumped at all - only D'riss and Ampelas, if they are in the same location, so D'riss would have to be with Amp, not Eloth. So if we lynch D'riss, great, but we might as well try to signal Anomander to NK Eloth anyway. And is your NK location-specific? As far as I can tell Eloth has no BPs, so unless he's sitting with Lily and she uses her vines ability, Anom should be able to put a cap in that no problem. The names of his abilities are obscure enough that either you or I could signal him on thread without too much notice. When I told him to back off Fener, I referenced all sorts of weird stuff that was part of his ability names and no one even noticed.

What do you think?

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

I don't know if Driss is a recruit. I think that he might be summer still. Either way he has to go. We are committed to preventing summer from winning.

It sounds like lilly has similar powers to Osseric. So if Amp and Driss are in the same location then their Pl's are combined for defense. hmmm....


Fuck I can't kill Eloth can I...Fuck... I bet that if Amp and Driss are in the same location then both of their powers take their level to 10 or something that will prevent me from killing them.

Telas and Osseric can both prevent someone from doing anything for a day and night cycle. The question becomes if I can't kill Eloth or Amp because I don't effect Eloth and Amp can prevent all actions at her location then Driss is the only one who I can attack. If we can lynch Driss then I can go to the island and nobody can attack me there. If we can't lynch him then I am going to have to try to kill him which if he is with Eloth I won't be able to do....Bugger... This is a pickle

Yeah, you can't perform any actions on Eloth at all, from what I understand, so that's out the window. HOWEVER - we could get Anomander to kill Eloth. He has the ability to call in a hit squad from any location and perform an NK, plus his powerlevel is 8.

About the underlined part above - I know I was confusing, but Eloth's PL never gets bumped at all - only D'riss and Ampelas, if they are in the same location, so D'riss would have to be with Amp, not Eloth. So if we lynch D'riss, great, but we might as well try to signal Anomander to NK Eloth anyway. And is your NK location-specific? As far as I can tell Eloth has no BPs, so unless he's sitting with Lily and she uses her vines ability, Anom should be able to put a cap in that no problem. The names of his abilities are obscure enough that either you or I could signal him on thread without too much notice. When I told him to back off Fener, I referenced all sorts of weird stuff that was part of his ability names and no one even noticed.

What do you think?

I don't know if we can get Ano to put a hit on Eloth. He has repeated several times that he doesn't want to have anything to do with the court war. My kill is location specific. I tried to take out Liosan on night 1 in the gold coast and got a great big nothing.

Ano doens't have a VC that has anything to do with the courts does he?

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

I can attack with either Fire or Ice.... Do you know if Eloth is more susceptible to one over the other. I know that Summer usually uses fire attacks while winter usually uses Ice attacks. That is why Mab took away harrys staff so that summer couldn't follow him when he used fire attacks.

I don't think you can even attack Eloth at all; his PM says that he's essentially Dresden-proof. You can't touch him, he can't touch you, ability-wise. Period.

It doesn't mention anything about Fire/Ice, but his NK is Acid-based, so I don't know what that means. I assume if he's Summer he's more susceptible to Ice, though.

[ansible]

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

I don't know if Driss is a recruit. I think that he might be summer still. Either way he has to go. We are committed to preventing summer from winning.

It sounds like lilly has similar powers to Osseric. So if Amp and Driss are in the same location then their Pl's are combined for defense. hmmm....


Fuck I can't kill Eloth can I...Fuck... I bet that if Amp and Driss are in the same location then both of their powers take their level to 10 or something that will prevent me from killing them.

Telas and Osseric can both prevent someone from doing anything for a day and night cycle. The question becomes if I can't kill Eloth or Amp because I don't effect Eloth and Amp can prevent all actions at her location then Driss is the only one who I can attack. If we can lynch Driss then I can go to the island and nobody can attack me there. If we can't lynch him then I am going to have to try to kill him which if he is with Eloth I won't be able to do....Bugger... This is a pickle

Yeah, you can't perform any actions on Eloth at all, from what I understand, so that's out the window. HOWEVER - we could get Anomander to kill Eloth. He has the ability to call in a hit squad from any location and perform an NK, plus his powerlevel is 8.

About the underlined part above - I know I was confusing, but Eloth's PL never gets bumped at all - only D'riss and Ampelas, if they are in the same location, so D'riss would have to be with Amp, not Eloth. So if we lynch D'riss, great, but we might as well try to signal Anomander to NK Eloth anyway. And is your NK location-specific? As far as I can tell Eloth has no BPs, so unless he's sitting with Lily and she uses her vines ability, Anom should be able to put a cap in that no problem. The names of his abilities are obscure enough that either you or I could signal him on thread without too much notice. When I told him to back off Fener, I referenced all sorts of weird stuff that was part of his ability names and no one even noticed.

What do you think?

I don't know if we can get Ano to put a hit on Eloth. He has repeated several times that he doesn't want to have anything to do with the court war. My kill is location specific. I tried to take out Liosan on night 1 in the gold coast and got a great big nothing.

Ano doens't have a VC that has anything to do with the courts does he?

No, his VC's are 3 things, and one is already completed because Kalse was modkilled. He has to keep Bob the Skull out of the Dragon's hands; he has to survive till end game; and YOU, Dresden, have to survive till end game as well. So essentially his VCs are - keep himself alive, keep you alive. That's it. So I think we could convince him to put a hit on Eloth if it would protect you or something.

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 06:00 PM, said:

Lets give it a go. If I can't kill Eloth then someone else will have too.

Silanah, on 22 August 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

Not our problem anymore.

Anthras, on 22 August 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

Wow, fucking victory.

Awe. Some.

[ansible]

That took entirely too long.

[ansible]

Whoops...missed a section between posts #83 and #84.

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

Ok, I'm going to submit the action to P-S. You also need to formally tell P-S you are giving me permission to use my day action, 24 Hours. Amp and Eloth it is; we'll know a lot as soon as P-S resolves the action.

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

I highly doubt that the Fae can be recruited. They have been at war with the Fomor way to often to be able to be recruited by them.

I meant whether they could RECRUIT, cause Anom is only safe from recruiting by humans. Logically this means to me that only the fae or a vampire could recruit him, and we know Summer/Winter are in the game. But it's doubtful.

I'm about to head out for an hour or so, but I can submit my ability first- what do you think, D'riss or Eloth? I almost say Eloth because D'riss is on the chopping block, so whatever we gather from him isn't going to help us much. But what do you think?

They can't recruit. I think that Mab had some deal with Nico. But then they both got a PM saying something and started to go after the Denarians like crazy.

Ok, good, I say that's tabled and done with then. Anom is with us.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

Bob I give you permission to leave the skull to gather intelligence on Amp and Eloth.


I take it that I need to say something like that.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

Ok, I'm going to submit the action to P-S. You also need to formally tell P-S you are giving me permission to use my day action, 24 Hours. Amp and Eloth it is; we'll know a lot as soon as P-S resolves the action.

I will let him know. Can we still talk?

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

Yep. Just make sure you send it to P-S in your role PM, he's not taking actions from these conversations as valid, I'm pretty sure.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

Yep. Just make sure you send it to P-S in your role PM, he's not taking actions from these conversations as valid, I'm pretty sure.

Done.

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

Ok, I'm going to submit the action to P-S. You also need to formally tell P-S you are giving me permission to use my day action, 24 Hours. Amp and Eloth it is; we'll know a lot as soon as P-S resolves the action.

I will let him know. Can we still talk?

Yes, we can talk the whole time, so as soon as I know anything, you'll know.

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

Ok, action submitted, vote dropped, I'm out for about an hour. We'll see if we have any results by then.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

later

Anthras, on 21 August 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

Back. Nothing from P-S, he hasn't read the action PM yet.

Silanah, on 21 August 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Probably asleep.

[Blend]

Gods, this was easily the most frustrating game I have ever been in. GG everyone, was lots of fun!

[Lady Bliss]

Awesome game! Much rep for you Obdi!!! Can't wait to read what was really going on!

[Obdigore]

Yea I wrote down all the later night actions and all movements in a notebook, I'll copy it up to SH when I get home tomorrow.

[Blend]

Cheers ansible, was awesome playing with you! It's too bad we didn't make the move that ended the game, but hey, if it wasn't for that, I think this would have lasted another week!

[Brujah]

That was fun.

[Lady Bliss]

Vengeance, on 22 August 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

Ahhh shit Bliss and Tatts are going to be gunning for me for a while If they lose. Ahh well. I needed out. I have to study for the series 7 for the next several weeks. Also obdi there is a serious lack of PM's in here. If I had known that you don't post them I wouldn't have deleted all of mine.

I see now the wisdom of creating lists. While I congratulate you on a game well played. You are now on the top of my list.

[Sixty]

Awesome setup Obdi. Mad props for putting this together and running it!


'Tis a shame the dragon died, and the fomor got pooped on by a random low-poster lynch. Sort of gave a huge advantage to a couple factions right from the get-go.


Also, I'm glad we managed to convince people at the end to lynch Winter instead of summer. Based on spoilers it was really about who could make a stronger argument, and Dresden leaving the game kinda secured that for us.

[Lady Bliss]

That and we were clearly outnumbered. The whole thread knew it. So there wasn't much to do/say.

[Sixty]

Lady Bliss, on 24 August 2012 - 04:11 AM, said:

That and we were clearly outnumbered. The whole thread knew it. So there wasn't much to do/say.

Right. I don't know how much Dresden told you, but you might have been able to convince Ano to NK one of us.


And KL--how did you know I issued that move to undertown before you guys decided to protect it?? Confused the shit out of me but it probably saved my ass from ano or whatnot.

[Obdigore]

Sixty, on 24 August 2012 - 04:14 AM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 24 August 2012 - 04:11 AM, said:

That and we were clearly outnumbered. The whole thread knew it. So there wasn't much to do/say.

Right. I don't know how much Dresden told you, but you might have been able to convince Ano to NK one of us.


And KL--how did you know I issued that move to undertown before you guys decided to protect it?? Confused the shit out of me but it probably saved my ass from ano or whatnot.

They didn't. They were trying to convince you to move to Undertown as they had moved there before. You had put your move in before they 'invited' you (and everyone else) on thread to do it. Just a happy coincidence if you are Summer.

Although Ano's NA was an attack on D'riss, so it wasn't going to get through (or kill D'riss) if her and Ampelas were together.

[King Lear]

Sixty, on 24 August 2012 - 04:14 AM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 24 August 2012 - 04:11 AM, said:

That and we were clearly outnumbered. The whole thread knew it. So there wasn't much to do/say.

Right. I don't know how much Dresden told you, but you might have been able to convince Ano to NK one of us.


And KL--how did you know I issued that move to undertown before you guys decided to protect it?? Confused the shit out of me but it probably saved my ass from ano or whatnot.

I didn't! That's AWESOME. We were pretty lucky it seems, we were in undertown looking for winter peoples and didn't bother moving anywhere else. And then we realised that we needed all three of us to survive the night to keep our advantage on thread, so we figured Mott would use Undergrowth and I'd let everyone know that there would be a safe spot so you could use it if you wanted. We figured keeping you alive would outweigh letting everyone know where we were, and hoped like hell that you hadn't already put a move through! Shit, I was thinking of moving back to the park first too.

[King Lear]

Fucking Ano. Thought you could kill us.

Suck it!

And good game everyone!

Thanks for the game Obdi, mucho rep heading your way. Although I'm still distressed by the lack of Telas-stomping Ents