[Tellan]

 Sorrit, on 01 August 2012 - 01:13 AM, said:

What's new, peoples? Telas is willing to vote Tellan, Atrahal is willing to vote Tellan, what about Liosan, Rashan, and Kaschan?

Atrahal, what do you think about this. You have the same line of thought when it comes to Kalse symping straight forward, as I do. I think it's more likely that Kalse simply symped Tellan or Rashan, or both, instead of this fake symp routine Telas suggested. We agree here.

I think Kalse acts the same way on day two when he removes vote from Osseric, to put Liosan at L-2. I think Kalse also acted straight forward when he voted Liosan. I think he thought either Liosan or Osseric would be a viable lynch.

I think Kalse wouldn't have put a scum in his findings, therefore Kaschan would probably cf town to me.

2 scum out of atrahal, Telas, Tellan, and Rashan.

If we lynch a scum, he'll only have one person defending him, potentially. I still think Tellan gives us our best shot. Sorry, Tellan. I love you.

remove vote
Vote Tellan

You were already voting me.



Douche.

<3

[Tellan]

Don't waste our lynch on me, Sorrit. You know better than this. Lynching me clears no one, despite what you keep saying.


Give me a reason why it clears someone and I'll refute it. If you're determined to go after one of myself or Rashan, pick Rashan. He's not contributing when contribution is most important. If we're voting for someone who isn't Atrahal, I'd prefer to nab someone who isn't of much use.

[Tellan]

I'd very much like to hear form Kaschan, since he is VPI in my eyes.

[Liosan]

 Telas, on 01 August 2012 - 01:02 AM, said:

So Liosan...both examples could just as easily be distancing. But you haven't addressed the bulk of the case, which insinuates kalse symped you (as much as you can address such a case).

What is there to say really? He wasn't, cause I'm not a killer. If he was, he was fake symping to throw you off the right trail. I think that rather than look at the people he was most obvsiously 'symping', we should be looking at the people he didn't interact with much. If Atrahal is scum, as I believe he is, then it makes sense for Kalse to try and point you all at me. I'm the only one who has made any case against him.

That being said, if I remember correctly, Kalse said that Tellan was inno, which I think he was doing to try to point us in HIS direction when we found out that he was the symp. So I don't think Tellan is scum.

That leaves Telas, Sorrit, Rashan, Kaschan.

I don't think Kaschan is scum, he was one of Kalse's two 'scum', though it would be clever to actually CF one of the scum to throw us off the trail.

Rashan gives me scummy vibes, but it's hard to really get any read on someone who participates very little (I realize that's a little hypocritical, but even when he does his posts are fairly low content and usually consist of bashing another player for playing badly, blah blah blah)

Sorrit is all over the place, so if he's scum, he's made himself pretty visible the whole game. For now he strikes me as inno.

And Telas, in my opinion, could be the other scum as well. He's played a very smooth game, never ruffled many/any feathers, and just more or less coasts by. Heck, no one has really made any sort of case against him.

[Tellan]

I don't think Kalse mentioned Telas at all, did he?

[Telas]

Please, make a case against me. I've mentioned that no one has looked at me once multiple times, since as early as day 2.

[Liosan]

 Tellan, on 01 August 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

I don't think Kalse mentioned Telas at all, did he?

No, and I didn't say that he did.

[Sorrit]

 Liosan, on 01 August 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

 Telas, on 01 August 2012 - 01:02 AM, said:

So Liosan...both examples could just as easily be distancing. But you haven't addressed the bulk of the case, which insinuates kalse symped you (as much as you can address such a case).

What is there to say really? He wasn't, cause I'm not a killer. If he was, he was fake symping to throw you off the right trail. I think that rather than look at the people he was most obvsiously 'symping', we should be looking at the people he didn't interact with much. If Atrahal is scum, as I believe he is, then it makes sense for Kalse to try and point you all at me. I'm the only one who has made any case against him.

That being said, if I remember correctly, Kalse said that Tellan was inno, which I think he was doing to try to point us in HIS direction when we found out that he was the symp. So I don't think Tellan is scum.

That leaves Telas, Sorrit, Rashan, Kaschan.

I don't think Kaschan is scum, he was one of Kalse's two 'scum', though it would be clever to actually CF one of the scum to throw us off the trail.

Rashan gives me scummy vibes, but it's hard to really get any read on someone who participates very little (I realize that's a little hypocritical, but even when he does his posts are fairly low content and usually consist of bashing another player for playing badly, blah blah blah)

Sorrit is all over the place, so if he's scum, he's made himself pretty visible the whole game. For now he strikes me as inno.

And Telas, in my opinion, could be the other scum as well. He's played a very smooth game, never ruffled many/any feathers, and just more or less coasts by. Heck, no one has really made any sort of case against him.

We could WIFOM that to hell, though. He cleared Tellan as his last find act after these knuckleheads lynched SL instead of Kalse like I begged them too. He either cleared Tellan hoping we would clear Tellan, and believe him, because he.pressed super hard for his case even after SL died, or he did what you say, and cleared Tellan to incriminate him.

If we don't choose Tellan, who cf helps us more? Atrahal? If atrahal is CFs Inno, then who?

If Tellan CFs Inno, then who? At least Tellan answers the question of whether or not Kalse fake symped, and we could lean towards atrahal, Telas, Rashan? I still think its not Lio or Kaschan for some reason.

[Sorrit]

Kalse IMPLORED us to still vote Kaschan after SL CFed Inno, at the same time as clearing Tellan. We're to assume he was falsely accusing Kaschan of scum, and correctly accusing Tellan of town?

[Sorrit]

 Tellan, on 01 August 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Don't waste our lynch on me, Sorrit. You know better than this. Lynching me clears no one, despite what you keep saying.


Give me a reason why it clears someone and I'll refute it. If you're determined to go after one of myself or Rashan, pick Rashan. He's not contributing when contribution is most important. If we're voting for someone who isn't Atrahal, I'd prefer to nab someone who isn't of much use.

Why are you so adamant about NOT dying? If you're town, and you die, and we win, you still win. I wouldn't be near as bothered by you guys killing me for info as you have been the whole game.

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This post has been edited by Sorrit: 01 August 2012 - 02:20 AM

[Tellan]

Because if I die, I leave town to a madman (assuming you are town) who overthinks himself and a smooth fucker who is very well thought.


Rashan and Kaschan are horribly low content posters, so they won't be of much help. Liosan and Atrahal I believe to be scum -BUT- one of them could easily be interchanged with Telas.


I don't think highly of myself, just want to keep playing until you prove to me that my lynch is the absolute best option from the rest of the perspectives. As of right now, I don't see it as such. When I CF inno, it doesn't clear Rashan. It doesn't incriminate atrahal or liosan. It doesn't accomplish anything except resting your minds at ease that you finally know my faction after (some of you) have been on me all game.

My case against Atrahal is far better than the case against me. If the case on me were the best, I would go without a struggle.



Bed time.

[Sorrit]

 Tellan, on 01 August 2012 - 03:13 AM, said:

Because if I die, I leave town to a madman (assuming you are town) who overthinks himself and a smooth fucker who is very well thought.


Rashan and Kaschan are horribly low content posters, so they won't be of much help. Liosan and Atrahal I believe to be scum -BUT- one of them could easily be interchanged with Telas.


I don't think highly of myself, just want to keep playing until you prove to me that my lynch is the absolute best option from the rest of the perspectives. As of right now, I don't see it as such. When I CF inno, it doesn't clear Rashan. It doesn't incriminate atrahal or liosan. It doesn't accomplish anything except resting your minds at ease that you finally know my faction after (some of you) have been on me all game.

My case against Atrahal is far better than the case against me. If the case on me were the best, I would go without a struggle.



Bed time.

I am pretty smooth, but it's not nice to call Telas a madman - I like Telas. Damn, you're always ill. You called GH a faggot, me borderline insane, vomit spewing, madman who overthinks. Thanks, I think you're awesome, too. Actually, I'm having a hard time forcing myself to care about what you think or feel about anyone, seeing as you jist resort to pouting and name-calling every time you get looked at as scum. Get over yourself. You talk to Kaschan and Rashan, ill talk to Telas, atrahal, and Liosan.

[Sorrit]

remove vote

Just so Tellan has no reason to talk in my general direction for a while. I need a break from the bitterness.

[Sorrit]

vote Rashan

If nothing else but to get him talking. I'm leaning towards Rashan, then if Rashan CFs scum, Tellan. Then Telas if Tellan is innocent. Vote Rashan with me, Tellan. If he CFs scum, and you vote with me, it won't clear you, but it'll help a lot. Earlier you said let's Lynch Rashan, at least we rid us of a low poster. Scum can hide too easy there.

[Sorrit]

For a Rashan Lynch we should have these people willing, just based on recent posts:

Sorrit, Tellan, Liosan, and atrahal. All said they believed Rashan might be scum, or at least a good Lynch Target based on his participation.

Telas leans away from Rashan? Don't know what Kaschan thinks. Could imply Telas and Rashan.

[Rashan]

 Sorrit, on 01 August 2012 - 04:31 AM, said:

vote Rashan

If nothing else but to get him talking. I'm leaning towards Rashan, then if Rashan CFs scum, Tellan. Then Telas if Tellan is innocent. Vote Rashan with me, Tellan. If he CFs scum, and you vote with me, it won't clear you, but it'll help a lot. Earlier you said let's Lynch Rashan, at least we rid us of a low poster. Scum can hide too easy there.

Oh for crying out loud. Pressure vote = pointless at this point of the game. I'm going home, and after dinner I'll be pulling stuff together that I've been thinking over and post some. But I'm not going to dance when you snap your fingers, and I'm tired of people saying 'ooh responded to a vote, that made them talk!' I talk when I have the time, whether there's a sad solitary vote on me or not. Just fucking deal with it. I'm not enjoying low posting like a bitch either. So fuck you.

[Sorrit]

That's not very nice, Rashan. How would me voting you, to get you to talk, when I've removed it every time, lead to such anger. I'm not removing my vote for that outburst. We should have never let Tellan get away with it, earlier. My shenanigans are cheeky and fun - you're shenanigans are cruel and tragic.

I'm just ruffling your tail feathers, Rashan, no need to get so mad. Since Rashan convinced me to leave my vote on him, I'm interested in seeing who all claimed willingness to vote Rashan, yet won't. This of course, doesn't include the chance a better case comes up.

[Sorrit]

remove vote

Grumpy bastid.

[Rashan]

Oh god Sorrit. I have to laugh at you sometimes you silly schizophrenic nutter.

I apologise for getting grumpy. It's been a very long day.

[Rashan]

In other news, I thought I'd post my opinions on thread. It's not terribly good, since it's just what I wrote up after reading the thread during the day today, but it's what I think, so I guess it helps? I'll be around more on thread tonight, since I've got some work to do but it's not the due-tomorrow-and-is also-really-really-important kind

So:



Atrahal: probably significantly suspicious enough to be be scum. The stuff Telas and Tellen have come up with is sufficiently convincing to think he's worth lynching at this point.

Sorrit: probably town. Irritatingly mucking up the thread constantly town, but still town. I'd have been tempted to call him a symp from the way he's been playing, combined with his fairly frequent mentions of the role, but that doesn't seem to be the case since Kalse. Can't really figure out why he was fingered by Telas as potential scum, I'll be going back to reread that bit, but I suspect that's passed so it's probably not worth it.

Kaschan: tentatively as town. I think that's much too dangerous a move for a symp at a point where Kaschan was being discussed but not really one of the potential targets for a lynch, since that consisted of me and Tellen, given that people's first inclinations were to vote Kaschan (why did that change by the way? Can't seem to find the reason for it.). It's all very odd and wifomy

Tellen: Very unsure about. I keep swinging backwards and forwards about him being scum. Partly because every now and then someone links him with me as potential scum partners, which is weird because I've been wanting to lynch him pretty much up until the point where Kalse "revealed", and now I'm even less certain.

Liosan: Very little read on, personally but getting a lot of attention from other places. He pops up and down again. Most of what I've got about him is people talking about him and it's not been positive, so I'd say scummyish with a dose of I really need to go and take a good hard look myself.

Finally Telas: If he's scum he's playing it pretty damn well, he's persuasive, calm and logical and seems to have towns best interests in mind. So I don't think I'm prepared to lynch him without a terribly good reason.

So I guess that leave my top scum picks, in order of current levels of suspicion (subject to change) as Atrahal, Tellen, Liosan, Kaschan, Telas, Sorrit.