[Brujah]

Yeah I forgot Fener included Kaschan as his night 1 find. I was thinking he said only Korbas and Atrahal.

So if you revise my last statement about the last day, it could come down to Spite, Korbas, Kaschan, and Atrahal, which is what I predict. Then Spite could be left out in the cold as the only one not on Feners list.

[Path-Shaper]

Brujah, on 20 July 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

Yeah I forgot Fener included Kaschan as his night 1 find. I was thinking he said only Korbas and Atrahal.

So if you revise my last statement about the last day, it could come down to Spite, Korbas, Kaschan, and Atrahal, which is what I predict. Then Spite could be left out in the cold as the only one not on Feners list.

Yeah.


Right now, ansible is online but I think he's waiting for one of the others to vote first, though. That vote by GH was really quite reckless, imho, but i think he's playing this game for fun first and winning second .

[Brujah]

Yeah, that's how I play, and it usually BACKFIRES. He's picking up some of my bad habits. I approve!

He doesn't really think Grief actually wrote that post and input any code on purpose does he?

You can use the same code grief is using to write 'scum just owned your face' and you can make the bible say 'Satan rules'

[Grief]

Vengeance, on 20 July 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

Fener, on 20 July 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

Silanah is talking shit. This is a counter reveal.

I am the finder. First night I checked Kaschan. Second I checked Korbas. Last night I checked Atrahal. I got inno returned for all three.

I also coded it into a post when I had time a bit after I arrived (think it was probably day two?).

Vote Silanah

A symp counter. Decent play but grief has been out of the game to long. If he did code it he should have had that quote ready for his counter. Plus why would the real finder counter reveal when he wasn't under any pressure to save someone who he didn't do a find one. Smacks of desperation... I would be all over this like white on rice.

From a town POV, it was possibly D-Day. Were I the town finder, Sil's reveal would let me know a scum, and revealing that would be perfectly logical.

Considering how often it seems to happen though, were you playing I'm sure we would've ended up having a huge argument about it.

[Gust Hubb]

Path-Shaper, on 20 July 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

Brujah, on 20 July 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

Yeah I forgot Fener included Kaschan as his night 1 find. I was thinking he said only Korbas and Atrahal.

So if you revise my last statement about the last day, it could come down to Spite, Korbas, Kaschan, and Atrahal, which is what I predict. Then Spite could be left out in the cold as the only one not on Feners list.

Yeah.


Right now, ansible is online but I think he's waiting for one of the others to vote first, though. That vote by GH was really quite reckless, imho, but i think he's playing this game for fun first and winning second .

Yup! I've got to have fun after nearly bursting an aneurysm last game....

And as I said, my heart really wasn't there this game. I feel sad at my poor playing, but happy to have gotten a chance to toy with some new ideas. All for a better, hotter gust eh?

CAW!

[Gust Hubb]

You did plan that code, right Grief?

[Lady Bliss]

Good game guys! WTF was I thinking in trusting FENER?! Next game, I vote Fener right out of the gate.

[Grief]

Gust Hubb, on 21 July 2012 - 01:32 AM, said:

You did plan that code, right Grief?

Yeah, there's no way I'd notice a code that odd in one of my posts accidentally.

[ansible]

Vengeance, on 18 July 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 17 July 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 17 July 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 16 July 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:

Kill order

Spite, on 16 July 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

I'm going to lay a provisional:

Kill Sheltatha Lore

I smell some Vengy in there. D'rek, feel free to change as you see fit.

-Shin

With Shin and Drek as scum of course I was killed off day 1. I suspect that will happen for a while if either one of them are scum.

Shin's modding, it was ansible who submitted the order

Ahhh no wonder. Nice to know that he doesn't want me on the other side.

Well, I couldn't have you fucking up my game now, could I. We are a great team, but you are too dangerous to keep alive if we are opposed.

[ansible]

Grief, on 21 July 2012 - 01:44 AM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 21 July 2012 - 01:32 AM, said:

You did plan that code, right Grief?

Yeah, there's no way I'd notice a code that odd in one of my posts accidentally.

Double rep for this, it really saved our asses. Great example of how to play a symp well.

[ansible]

Going to help out Tap and dump the killers' convo here.

Path-Shaper, on 16 July 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

Quote

You decided to participate in a talent hunt. The good news: you can sing and dance. And therefore, the judges love you and you made it THIS close to the finals! The bad news: the other people in the show are hot. And have designer haircuts. And facebook followers. And they don't like you. It is now in the hands of the public, so you better make a fool of them on stage!

You are one half of a killer pair and you can communicate off-thread with your partner. Each night, you and your partner can obliterate someone in a sing-off (aka, kill them).

for your convenience, here is the RI PM. It will also be in the OP, so no benefits there.

Quote

You decided to participate in a talent hunt. The good news: you are hot. And therefore, the teenagers love you and you made it THIS close to the finals! The bad news for you: there are people who can actually sing. And dance. And they'll eliminate you if you go head to head. Better to get the public to vote them off, first!

You are town and a roleless Inno. What else did you expect?

Ampelas, on 16 July 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

Sweet!

Hi Spite! I'm D'rek. Fancy being scum with you!

Spite, on 16 July 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

Hello D'rek! It is I, ansible. I think this is our first time as a killer pair! I'm excited, but I have this sinking feeling that I'm going to blow the game. So, you know, yelling at me works pretty good when I start to mess up. It's hard to be good scum. Fuck me, it's hard to be good town. So, I just jumped on thread. Anybody you want to kill yet?

Ampelas, on 16 July 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Oh, don't be like that, you're going to do great! You lead the SH thread last game, just act like that some more and everyone will be waiting on you hand and foot.


Anyone I want to kill? Yes, most definitely! My preferences would be (people I want to kill earlier at the top):

Vengey
Grief
GH
HO
Trull's Son
JLV
Tats
Use of Weapons
Blend
Mott
Lady Bliss
Sixty


I'm not a very good alt-er, but I'll see if I can pick out a few people later tonight. If I alt wrong, not a big deal, adding some randomness to the kill selection is good just to make it harder for town to second-guess us.

Also:

Path-Shaper, I give full permission to Spite to change the kill target at any time without needing me to confirm the change.

^^you should do that, too, just so if one of us is offline when something crazy happens at the end of day or at night the other person can change the NA,

Spite, on 16 July 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

Yes, well, my confidence is always pretty low as scum but ONWARD TO VICTORY.

Ok, I agree with that list. P-S, just go ahead and match that with the alts, ok? No? Really?

I'm pretty bad at alting people until it's really obvious. Occasionally I get lucky. But I agree with your list. Vengy, Grief, and GH especially. Then maybe JLV. Tatts will get himself lynched probably.

Also,

Path-Shaper, I give full permission to Ampelas to change the kill target at any time without needing me to confirm the change.

Ampelas, on 16 July 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

Sounds good.

Are you planning to play a particular way at all? I hadn't really decided, yet. If you want to hide a bit, or go for being middle-of-the-road, I can go for near-leading-the-thread to offset it well. If you want to really lead, I can stay quiet. If you want to be active but not dominate the thread, I'll aim for roughly the same so if I'd need to defend/deflect you it won't be coming out of nowhere.

Spite, on 16 July 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

Well, day one I'm just planning on putting enough out there to be visible but not make any waves. Right now you're laying low. I can definitely shoot for middle-of-the-road consistency, and if you come back strong it'll vindicate your earlier comment about not playing at work. I think that might work for now, I'm already sort of just hanging around and you can jump from not being around to thread-master.

Thoughts?

Spite, on 16 July 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

And if that doesn't work then we can both try being semi-active and play off that.

Spite, on 16 July 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

I'm going to lay a provisional:

Kill Sheltatha Lore

I smell some Vengy in there. D'rek, feel free to change as you see fit.

Spite, on 17 July 2012 - 12:58 AM, said:

Nice avatar.

Ampelas, on 17 July 2012 - 01:23 AM, said:

SL is fine by me. I'm pretty busy tonight after all, so won't likely get any time to do some serious alting, anyways.

Path-Shaper, on 17 July 2012 - 02:30 AM, said:

Action noted.


-Shin

Ampelas, on 17 July 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:

Alright, yup, I'm solidly going for the "voice of reason and explaining to silly people how to play mafia" style. I expect to be an extremely dominant present on-thread, though not the only one. And with the Cowell avatar, I'll be extremely memorable, too. You're pretty lay-lowing right now, and that is working very good, so either keep that up or if you like work towards a slightly-active role.

[ansible]

Spite, on 17 July 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Ok, perfect, I wasn't around much last night and couldn't get on till now. Think I should jump on thread and throw a vote out there? Or just let day time out and hang back?

Spite, on 17 July 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

I waited a bit too long so I'm not going to even try to put a vote on Kaschan. I'll continue to lay low for a couple hours after night resolves and then come back with a bit of content.

Spite, on 17 July 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 17 July 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Every fucking game I play in there's a no lynch day one, and another somewhere down the line.

As I say everytime, pathetic. If you know you can't be around before lynch, throw a vote out before you leave so we can work with that.

Looking at you Sorrit and Spite.

Oooh, I hope he doesn't realize he left out Kalse because it's a perfect way for me to get back into the game and throw a bit of suspicion on him. We'll see.

Ampelas, on 17 July 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

Spite, on 17 July 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 17 July 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Every fucking game I play in there's a no lynch day one, and another somewhere down the line.

As I say everytime, pathetic. If you know you can't be around before lynch, throw a vote out before you leave so we can work with that.

Looking at you Sorrit and Spite.

Oooh, I hope he doesn't realize he left out Kalse because it's a perfect way for me to get back into the game and throw a bit of suspicion on him. We'll see.

Haha, sounds good.

Ampelas, on 17 July 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

Good call - Vengy is down.

and UoW, too! 10 more to go (minus possible symp)!

Spite, on 17 July 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Ha HA! I knew I smelled some Vengeance. Having a lover connection with him during the Espers game really helped me get to know his style a little better.

Yeah, can't believe Kalse didn't post at all; I'll bring it up but it's going to be mostly a moot point now, since he would have CF'd as scum and that sorta destroys my argument. But still, it destroys Korv's too, so I'll mention it in a bit. I'm fairly busy atm anyway.

I also might toss a bit of distancing your way about the "no lynch" comments, especially since I wasn't around to vote.

Spite, on 17 July 2012 - 10:56 PM, said:

Alright, I jumped in and made a few posts, did a little subtle distancing. Hopefully nothing too suspicious. I'll probably keep low posting or posting frequently in a short interval.

Thoughts so far?

[ansible]

Spite, on 17 July 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

On the game, that is.

Spite, on 18 July 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

Oh, man....things are looking so good on thread right now. So far they are clearing us, and they are using a lot of WIFOM. I wonder if we can't use this to our advantage to kill someone like Kaschan, or Atrahal. People are usually more swayed by WIFOM that implicates scum than by WIFOM that indicates innocence, regardless of the logic. If either of them come up dead, there will be a massive WIFOM fest that will hopefully stem from people thinking Kaschan/Atrahal were on the right track, and we'll lynch someone they suspected.

But it's just a thought. Any targets you would prefer at the minute? I'm almost thinking Fener for some reason. Probably just feeling the urge to get rid of Fener...

Fener also has it out for Anthras, who is superlynchable, so I think that I might try to agree with voting Silanah to keep Anthras around another night so we have an easy target. Killing Fener leads to more WIFOM that he was right about Anthras, and round and round we go...

Ampelas, on 18 July 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

I like being outraged

Since very few people are posting much, I decided not to break that mold. Rage-quitting from Anthras spam should lead to plenty of inconsequential discussion about the spam when other people return, further tying up town's time.

I don't think we should try to direct the lynch at all, but a Kaschan lynch would be good.


Kill-wise, I think we should kill someone inconsequential. I'd go with Ano, who is low on post count but seems to be putting in more effort than Sorrit or Korbas. Could be a roled townie.

Spite, on 18 July 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

Yeah, I would love to get rid of Kaschan (possibly even Grief? I got lucky once, not pushing my alting abilities again). It's possible I can reverse my position on Anthras and agree with him for the Kaschan lynch but I'll need to do it carefully.

I don't mind Ano as a target tonight.

Ampelas, on 18 July 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

Spite, on 18 July 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

Yeah, I would love to get rid of Kaschan (possibly even Grief? I got lucky once, not pushing my alting abilities again). It's possible I can reverse my position on Anthras and agree with him for the Kaschan lynch but I'll need to do it carefully.

I don't mind Ano as a target tonight.

Don't feel like you need to though, with no lynch yesterday they will almost certainly pile on a lynch today to make sure there is one. I intend to get on one train or another so I don't double-not-vote after what I said yesterday, but you could easily get by with not voting today or not voting on a big train.

Ampelas, on 18 July 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Night 2 - Kill Anomandaris

Spite, on 18 July 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

Yeah, they are really running with things on thread, I'll probably come back and be noncommittal in a little bit, maybe lay a vote so I don't get put in the same situation as yesterday. I guess this is coasting.

Path-Shaper, on 18 July 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 18 July 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Night 2 - Kill Anomandaris

Noted

Spite, on 18 July 2012 - 09:13 PM, said:

Ok, I'm getting on the Kaschan train, hopefully this won't give off too much of a scum vibe; if the train keeps building, maybe you don't switch and keep your vote on Anthras and if things end up swinging towards Anthras I can hop on like I said I would. I think that lynch train isn't going to reveal much due to the way Anthras has played. But both of us probably shouldn't vote Kaschan unless it's totally necessary to get a lynch and you want to try to walk the line and "prove" that you are town by saying, Hey, bitches, fine, I'll switch my vote just for you so we can get a lynch. Or something like that.

Spite, on 18 July 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Well, that worked out pretty well, I wasn't on the lynch train and you were gone long enough and had enough good reason to be voting Anthras anyway. I smell more WIFOM and analyzing the train on Anthras isn't going to lead anywhere, I think.

Ampelas, on 19 July 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

Yeah, I was planning on getting online last night but the family was like "let's go into town right this second!" and I was like "eh, mafia doesn't need me, I can coast/keep up my pretenses"

Ampelas, on 19 July 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

Gonna look at Karosis - I think i can build a plausible case on him. I want to really look like I'm an RI taking things quite seriously and trying to improve everyone's play, and if I can get a good case built after my big absence it really will look like I was having a hissy fit and rage-quitting for a day due to Anthras, which would be pretty un-scum-like and you can use later if there's ever a case on me that you don't want to agree with

[ansible]

Spite, on 19 July 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Sounds good. Looks like people are giving me a free pass at the moment so I may jump on the Atrahal bandwagon and see if I can't add some "new insight" into the case.

Spite, on 19 July 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Not too shabby a case, D'rek, very nice. You're walking that fine line very nicely and the case really sealed it, I think you are just lynchable and scummy enough to stay alive, if that makes any sense.

Also!

Spite, on 16 July 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

...

I'm pretty bad at alting people until it's really obvious. Occasionally I get lucky. But I agree with your list. Vengy, Grief, and GH especially. Then maybe JLV. Tatts will get himself lynched probably.

...

Now that is pretty funny.

Path-Shaper, on 19 July 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

Spite, on 19 July 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Not too shabby a case, D'rek, very nice. You're walking that fine line very nicely and the case really sealed it, I think you are just lynchable and scummy enough to stay alive, if that makes any sense.

Also!

Spite, on 16 July 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

...

I'm pretty bad at alting people until it's really obvious. Occasionally I get lucky. But I agree with your list. Vengy, Grief, and GH especially. Then maybe JLV. Tatts will get himself lynched probably.

...

Now that is pretty funny.

Hehehe, he definately didn't have his day this game

- T.

Path-Shaper, on 19 July 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

Although D'rek was being a bit harsh about him being 'that bad a player' to paraphrase Silanah's question.

Spite, on 19 July 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 July 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

Although D'rek was being a bit harsh about him being 'that bad a player' to paraphrase Silanah's question.

Yeah, but I thought it was more of an attempt to stay in character, as a scum trying to be the annoyingly-right-and-helpful townie. I don't think D'rek was honestly commenting on his play, but who knows, she might have been. He did spam up a storm.

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 July 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

Although D'rek was being a bit harsh about him being 'that bad a player' to paraphrase Silanah's question.

Yup

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 02:12 AM, said:

Atrahal, Fener, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Silanah, Sorrit

So who you want to kill tonight?

At this point, I think we should start killing off the more vocal, active players, which would be Kaschan, Sil, Fener, and Korv, though Korv I don't think is being as useful as the other three. Karosis, Atrahal, Korbas and Sorrit are all fairly inactive and aren't likely to make a good case in their minimal playing time.

I say we pick Korv - no one is looking at him much as scum, and he doesn't agree with me much but isn't my main arguer, Sil.

Night 3 - Kill Korvalain

But feel free to change if you disagree, since I picked the last one.

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 03:56 AM, said:

I'm ok with Korv. I almost think Fener is more of a threat and would like to off him, especially cause he was on the lynch train that you essentially created with your case (brilliantly played, by the way).

But Korv is good. He was right behind you on the train too, I just realized, so if anyone tries to implicate him as your symp the WIFOM will consume the thread with its awesome power. I'll try to post more tomorrow if I can so I don't look like a complete coaster.

[ansible]

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:

p-s, I may be drunk,, but trust me when I say that i would never say "fuck you" to you unless I WAS and am a killer scum who is trying to stay alive. dont kill me plz. if i displayed my true wub for you on thread i would be lynched immediately. so know that i don't care about resolution IT'S ALL JUST A GAME MAN, JUST DECEPTION. AS DR. STEVE BRULE WOULD SAY, IT'S JUST A GAME MAN, BE RELAXED, ITS JUST A GAME!

yeah. so. um....just keep this post to youtself maybe. mafia rulez. dont show this to anyone. drek...shhhh.....

Path-Shaper, on 20 July 2012 - 07:35 AM, said:

Korv it will be.

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

Oh my, drunken ansible is hostile.

You going to do a big mass-apology when you come back online?

I think I'm going to make some "get your act together" remarks in your direction - it'd be in character for me and we haven't had much interaction yet (but can easily blame that on not being online at the same times much/at all)

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

Yeah I might half-apologize and sort of brush it off, it was nice to get in character and let some steam off though.

However - fuck! Finder reveal. So, plan? Is there a healer or do we kill Silanah tonight if she isn't lynched? If not, who should be our other target?

Kasch is playing smart, thank God, and there is a way we can try to implicate Korbas/Sil if we do it right. I'll have to make a few more active posts today but try to ride the middle ground and not look like I'm defending you. So you should definitely put a spot of distancing on me due to my drunken antics when you can, if you still think that's appropriate.

Also, assuming you get lynched, any advice on who to kill/lynch since I'll be all by my lonesome? Grief is out there somewhere and he needs to die.

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

Finder reveal by Silanah, oooooooooh.

Don't give yourself away by coming down on him too hard - I think I can make a solid effort at countering this and there's lots of time left. If I fail to counter it and none of the other "suspected partners" disagrees but you it'll end the game for us right there, so don't take any action too quickly.

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

As for who to kill - have to take the risk and go for Silanah tonight, given that you've been singled out in her "four suspects" - if Sil doesn't die that group of 4 becomes 3 and you won't last to win if they just lynch everyone in that group. Possible there's a healer, but it's a necessary risk, IMO.

The only case I would think of not trying to kill Sil tonight would be if both me and Sil were not going to get lynched - then it could be useful for WIFOM but still quite risky.

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

Ok.

Provisional:

Kill Silanah, if she's lynched, kill Fener

I don't want to kill anyone she's claimed to have cleared, so they remain unknowns - for instance, the Sorrit hammer was pretty scummy and then Sil immediately clears him afterward, which could be a coverup. I think the key argument against Sil is going to have to be that the fake finder reveal could be a killer clearing her partner on WCS D-Day; on the side of that, even if you get lynched, it's possible to make an argument that she was pulling a Tatts-style toss-your-partner-under-the-bus so that she is cleared for the rest of the game. It's bad luck that she found you but she and Korbas both have played sketchy enough that I think it's possible to paint them as partners, or at least symp and killer, especially with Korbas's stupid fake symp play.

I'm going to wait to post until you defend yourself cause I don't want to do it for you, but I plan to try and be level-headed and point out some of these possibilities when I get a chance. I've already been lumped in with Kaschan, so agreeing with him shouldn't hurt me at all, but a lot will depend on how you respond, I think.

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

Counter-Silanah cannon #1 fired. Got two more shots left - characterization (which I can tie into her voting town) and the timing of the reveal vs info gained vs D-Day (quite tenuous)

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

Ok.

Provisional:

Kill Silanah, if she's lynched, kill Fener

I don't want to kill anyone she's claimed to have cleared, so they remain unknowns - for instance, the Sorrit hammer was pretty scummy and then Sil immediately clears him afterward, which could be a coverup. I think the key argument against Sil is going to have to be that the fake finder reveal could be a killer clearing her partner on WCS D-Day; on the side of that, even if you get lynched, it's possible to make an argument that she was pulling a Tatts-style toss-your-partner-under-the-bus so that she is cleared for the rest of the game. It's bad luck that she found you but she and Korbas both have played sketchy enough that I think it's possible to paint them as partners, or at least symp and killer, especially with Korbas's stupid fake symp play.

I'm going to wait to post until you defend yourself cause I don't want to do it for you, but I plan to try and be level-headed and point out some of these possibilities when I get a chance. I've already been lumped in with Kaschan, so agreeing with him shouldn't hurt me at all, but a lot will depend on how you respond, I think.

Too WIFOM-y, I don't think people will go for it if they have my CF. I think you're better off leaving Fener, Kaschan and Atrahal alive as alternate suspects.

Remember that if I die today it'll be 1-vs-5 tomorrow, so you'll have to last two more lynches.

[ansible]

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Ok, the only option really is to kill Korbas if she's lynched, then to eliminate the pair of them. She cleared Korbas, and his interactions with her have been scummy all game, but if she's gone and comes up finder, Korbas becomes more of a problem than Sorrit, who is the only other option, right? Sorrit's hammer is still scummy but we don't know if Sil will CF as a finder or just as a town player, so Sorrit could still be under suspicion if we paint Sil as a symp fake revealing.

I think that's right.

So, change provisional:

Kill Silanah, if she's lynched, kill Korbas

Any other thoughts? I've been busy as hell, I think you are making really good points on thread and Sil clearly fucked up, but I wonder how everyone else is going to respond, and I don't want to be seen as attacking Sil right after you did. So I'm going to wait to post a bit.

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Although no one has really suspected Sorrit of being scum all game until the hammer, while Korbas has been under a lot of suspicion and did a bunch of weird fake symping, so he may be better to leave alive if Sil gets lynched. What do you think?

Path-Shaper, on 20 July 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Ok, the only option really is to kill Korbas if she's lynched, then to eliminate the pair of them. She cleared Korbas, and his interactions with her have been scummy all game, but if she's gone and comes up finder, Korbas becomes more of a problem than Sorrit, who is the only other option, right? Sorrit's hammer is still scummy but we don't know if Sil will CF as a finder or just as a town player, so Sorrit could still be under suspicion if we paint Sil as a symp fake revealing.

I think that's right.

So, change provisional:

Kill Silanah, if she's lynched, kill Korbas

Any other thoughts? I've been busy as hell, I think you are making really good points on thread and Sil clearly fucked up, but I wonder how everyone else is going to respond, and I don't want to be seen as attacking Sil right after you did. So I'm going to wait to post a bit.

noted.

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 08:04 PM, said:

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Although no one has really suspected Sorrit of being scum all game until the hammer, while Korbas has been under a lot of suspicion and did a bunch of weird fake symping, so he may be better to leave alive if Sil gets lynched. What do you think?

I think Sorrit is the better choice. People might not even remember Sorrit's hammer, and it wasn't that scummy, but Korbas has been blatantly unhelpful and distracting, so people will remember and suspect Korbas more easily, IMO.

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

Yeah, ok, agreed, I'm gonna change it again.

Also, it looks like we have our symp - Fener. Unless there are two finders (unlikely), he's clearly putting himself on the line to save you. Hopefully he continues to get painted as a killer, so that he's another possible lynch target besides you and Sil if it comes to that. But if Fener truly is our symp, and we lynch anyone but you, me, or him, it's D-Day and we win in the morning. That's pretty sweet.

Change provisional:

Kill Silanah, if she's lynched, kill Sorrit

Path-Shaper, on 20 July 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

Yeah, ok, agreed, I'm gonna change it again.

Also, it looks like we have our symp - Fener. Unless there are two finders (unlikely), he's clearly putting himself on the line to save you. Hopefully he continues to get painted as a killer, so that he's another possible lynch target besides you and Sil if it comes to that. But if Fener truly is our symp, and we lynch anyone but you, me, or him, it's D-Day and we win in the morning. That's pretty sweet.

Change provisional:

Kill Silanah, if she's lynched, kill Sorrit

noted!

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Awww yeah! This is awesome!

Alright, well since Fener is going all out, definitely you should stay quiet and not really go one way or another. Try to have a semi-plausible post with a Silanah vote ready to copy+paste if we get to L-1 and you want to go for a sudden hammer to win.

FUUUUUNNNNN

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

Eugh, I hate that "It's my first time playing finder" argument Sil keeps bringing up. There's no good way to rebuttal that without sounding super scummy...

Path-Shaper, on 20 July 2012 - 08:57 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Awww yeah! This is awesome!

Alright, well since Fener is going all out, definitely you should stay quiet and not really go one way or another. Try to have a semi-plausible post with a Silanah vote ready to copy+paste if we get to L-1 and you want to go for a sudden hammer to win.

FUUUUUNNNNN

I can say I am most satisfied with the way this game is turning out

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Awww yeah! This is awesome!

Alright, well since Fener is going all out, definitely you should stay quiet and not really go one way or another. Try to have a semi-plausible post with a Silanah vote ready to copy+paste if we get to L-1 and you want to go for a sudden hammer to win.

FUUUUUNNNNN

I know, I fucking flipped out when Fener counter-revealed, and then his fucking code, how brilliant was that. Noob card against a fucking coded reveal should be pretty obvious for most people but I think you are absolutely right and I should shut my damn mouth and let everyone else come on and start voting first. And I'll definitely be ready to hammer for the win.

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

I'm still floored at the amazing foresight Fener had to make such a complicated code early on in the game and it's going to be the fucking game changer on D-Day. Whoever our symp is, they are awesome.

[ansible]

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

And I want to post SO BADLY but I've been under the radar the whole game, so shutting up and waiting is a much better play for now, I think.

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 09:40 PM, said:

Aaaand Korbas just flipped, this is so tense. Damn, what a fun game it's been. "Hey Inigo. I hope we win."

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:

Hey P-S, you might want to edit your latest vote count, as both Fener and Amp have voted for Slianah:

Here: http://forum.malazan...26

and here: http://forum.malazan...56

I just don't want it to look suspicious that the two people left off your list happen to be the true scum...

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

Thanks P-S.

One more vote...come on....just one more....

Path-Shaper, on 20 July 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

Thanks P-S.

One more vote...come on....just one more....

Hehehe. I'll be around for 45 minutes to an hour, after that it is bedtime, but should you legitimately hammer, you have my blessing to declare victory on thread if Shin's not around. Or to look supremely foolish if someone removes before you post your hammer + victory dance, of course...

- T.

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

Lol, thanks for the permission. And the warning.

Ampelas, on 20 July 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

Lol, thanks for the permission. And the warning.

That's why I said have a plausible sounding post ready to copy+paste... juuuuuust in case someone lightning removes. And, of course, refresh the page a few times before the victory dance

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

Yeah, it's a good idea, I have mine written out, saved, and ready to be posted as soon as Kasch flips to Sil (which I expect should happen soon). He's voting for Korbas, who has been cleared, and Korbas is sold on the Sil lynch, so I'm hoping Fener satisfies Kasch's suspicions enough to where he will lay a vote down.

AND THEN THE HAMMER FALLS. BUT A REASONABLE HAMMER. NOT AN OVERTLY VICTORIOUS ONE.

Man, I am waiting so patiently....so patiently...

[ansible]

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 11:35 PM, said:

I think we did it.

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

Ha HA! Kasch flipped just like I thought he would, I didn't even need to hammer. God what a great game. Well played, D'rek. Very well played. I look forward to our next scum pairing.

Spite, on 21 July 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Man, everyone is making me nervous on thread. If I blew the game after P-S said I could declare victory, which I haven't even done outright, well....shame on me, and shame on P-S, but I accept full responsibility. Still a fun game, though.

Spite, on 21 July 2012 - 12:51 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 20 July 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

Spite, on 20 July 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

Thanks P-S.

One more vote...come on....just one more....

Hehehe. I'll be around for 45 minutes to an hour, after that it is bedtime, but should you legitimately hammer, you have my blessing to declare victory on thread if Shin's not around. Or to look supremely foolish if someone removes before you post your hammer + victory dance, of course...

- T.

So uh, some clarification there? Cause it looks like I just single-handedly lost the game for following Tapper's advice...

Path-Shaper, on 21 July 2012 - 12:52 AM, said:

Keep reading.

Spite, on 21 July 2012 - 12:53 AM, said:

Oh. Sorry.

[Path-Shaper]

Massive thanks for that, ansible

I wasn't there as much as I wanted mod-wise, hence the no PMs when Grief and Sixty did great jobs of posting their tho9ughts, but two of our external IT support companies went bust and unless we make a decision on monday on whom to hire, my company's going to be without an email-server with spam-filter and without server support as a whole, so my work life is a bit frantic.

[Grief]

Oh god, I could so easily have been NK'd

What is it about the symp role that draws the masters to kill them so often?

I'm going to try and post up my PM's for anyone curious.