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#141 User is offline   vendevere 

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:16 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 13 June 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

They moved it a couple of patches ago, it's now in the bottom right (it took me ages to find it when they moved it)


I tried to look for it there too, but couldn't find it. I would love for them to put it back where it was before, so I could find it more easily...
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 02:57 AM

Ugh took over all of Sweden and Norway and was rampaging through Ireland and feeling great, had One son and 3 daughters, one of which was married off to the Finnish Heir and another into the HRE royal house and then... my power goes out.

I am cursed involving this game. The autosave is corrupted.
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 06:02 AM

All three autosaves are corrupted? Ouch...
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 06:33 AM

Didn't know there were two others. I just tried the first one and the game crashed halfway through loading so I just walked away.
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Posted 16 June 2013 - 05:40 AM

View PostObdigore, on 14 June 2013 - 06:33 AM, said:

Didn't know there were two others. I just tried the first one and the game crashed halfway through loading so I just walked away.

The game autosaves every year, it just keeps the previous two years' autosaves at any given point in time. I believe the main one is 'autosave', the next is 'oldautosave' and the final one is 'olderautosave'.
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Posted 16 June 2013 - 11:08 AM

it has probably been answerd, but just how do i change the sucsession laws?
i want to see this world where T'lan imass kneels
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Posted 16 June 2013 - 12:18 PM

It depends on what kind of law you want, and what religion you belong to.
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Posted 16 June 2013 - 12:23 PM

well as a fellow norwegian i play Harald Hårfagre, and i am not happy about splitting the country on his death...
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Posted 16 June 2013 - 02:40 PM

You can change them through the Laws tab. Be aware though, there's a series of conditions to meet before you can. First, you need to reign for at least 10 years. Then there's crown authority - for seniority, you need medium. For primogeniture, you need high. Then there can be no civil war and your vassals can't be fighting each other AND none of your direct vassals can have a negative opinion of you.
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Posted 16 June 2013 - 02:43 PM

View Postberu, on 16 June 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

well as a fellow norwegian i play Harald Hårfagre, and i am not happy about splitting the country on his death...


Then you'll have to reform the faith first. Which require that you hold three of the holy sites and have pushed the Norse religious authority above 50
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Posted 16 June 2013 - 04:38 PM

thank you both :p

This is an awsome game!
i want to see this world where T'lan imass kneels
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Posted 17 June 2013 - 01:53 PM

Arrgh.
I hate everyone in this game! why can't these people sit on their asses and leave me alone? I started a new game as the Swedish king (in the earliest starting time). united all of sweden in 18 years except for one little county and just as I was taking that county from the Danish king my king died.
His imbecile grandson became king ( imbecile as in zero (literally) intrigue and three martial) and a couple of minutes after that there were three fucking factions in my country, which combined with the danish war made me use the time honoured tradition of Alt+F4. (I punched the wall after that)
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Edit: Also, what to do with factions? they are a true pain in the ass. my only answer to them is to try and plot the leader's death.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 04:30 PM

Make them like you a lot. Also, plot plot plot! Most important thing in the game, though: groom your heir properly...
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Posted 17 June 2013 - 06:28 PM

And use every opportunity you have to get rid of ambitious vassals early. There's nothing better than a strong and ambitious vassal plotting to kill someone. Now you have a legitimate reason to imprison them, and you can raise your army and pace it in their home province before you do so.

Or just use your raiding money for plots to kill whomever displeases you.
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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:28 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 17 June 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

And use every opportunity you have to get rid of ambitious vassals early. There's nothing better than a strong and ambitious vassal plotting to kill someone. Now you have a legitimate reason to imprison them, and you can raise your army and pace it in their home province before you do so.

Or just use your raiding money for plots to kill whomever displeases you.

I agree about the "ambitious vassal trying to kill someone". It would be double awesome if the vassal wasn't strong. I can just win the war and imprison the guy then ransom him...
About raiding, what's the best way to raid? using a real strong army to occupy a province and win sieges or just hit&run ?

Errm, how do I groom my heir?
Is trying to make my main province ultra rich/powerful a good way to mitigate the disadvantages of having gavelkind? I'm not sure if a single province very good province can replace 4 medium provinces ...
Also what are the different ways of making someone happy? (other than gifts and honorary titles)
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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:35 PM

Nono, don't ransom him. He's not going to be much of a problem if he is imprisoned now is he?

Also, be the guardian of your heir, and the heir of your most powerful vassal. Make your heir the perfect ruler (patient and so on), while the vassal should be the most terrible of people (cowardly, gluttonous, arbitrary etc)

As for raiding: Find the provinces with a church as the capital. There are several along the riverbanks of Europe, and of course, there's Rome. Ideally you will want to sack the them all. This gives more gold, not to mention some juicy prisoners and a boost to the Norse religious authority. In addition you can get some neat events following the sacking of a church. If an army approaches, flee and try somewhere else.

The merchant states of Italy are also excellent targets. Venice is incredibly rich for one, but there are several other good targets in case Venice has an army standing about.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 09:08 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 17 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Also, be the guardian of your heir, and the heir of your most powerful vassal. Make your heir the perfect ruler (patient and so on), while the vassal should be the most terrible of people (cowardly, gluttonous, arbitrary etc)


For this, I'd suggest a special situation: if your current character is pretty lousy... don't be the guardian of your heir. Find someone that's Midas Touched, Brilliant Strategist, Grey Eminence or Elusive Shadow (depending which of those you like, each of those has it's advantages) with possibly the best combo of attributes and traits and give him to that guy. Your heir will then skyrocket in attributes, get useful traits and generally be more badass. Once you have a badass ruler go towards being your heir's guardian. If possible, try to get geniuses into your line somehow. +5 to all attributes and a bonus to opinion? yes please.
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Posted 17 June 2013 - 09:25 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 17 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Nono, don't ransom him. He's not going to be much of a problem if he is imprisoned now is he?

Also, be the guardian of your heir, and the heir of your most powerful vassal. Make your heir the perfect ruler (patient and so on), while the vassal should be the most terrible of people (cowardly, gluttonous, arbitrary etc)

As for raiding: Find the provinces with a church as the capital. There are several along the riverbanks of Europe, and of course, there's Rome. Ideally you will want to sack the them all. This gives more gold, not to mention some juicy prisoners and a boost to the Norse religious authority. In addition you can get some neat events following the sacking of a church. If an army approaches, flee and try somewhere else.

The merchant states of Italy are also excellent targets. Venice is incredibly rich for one, but there are several other good targets in case Venice has an army standing about.

lol. I raided the English and French only, will definitely use that advice.


View PostGothos, on 17 June 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

For this, I'd suggest a special situation: if your current character is pretty lousy... don't be the guardian of your heir. Find someone that's Midas Touched, Brilliant Strategist, Grey Eminence or Elusive Shadow (depending which of those you like, each of those has it's advantages) with possibly the best combo of attributes and traits and give him to that guy. Your heir will then skyrocket in attributes, get useful traits and generally be more badass. Once you have a badass ruler go towards being your heir's guardian. If possible, try to get geniuses into your line somehow. +5 to all attributes and a bonus to opinion? yes please.

I admit I didn't care about people I marry my line into but I'm going to pay more attention to it now.
My current problem is another imbecile heir which I can't plot to kill. any suggestions? (my other son died in "a suspicious accident". Bastards

and what is the use of concubines exactly? getting more heirs to eat up your demence after your death?

PS: does anyone else find that " Seniority tends to lower your life expectancy for some unknown reason" part hilarious ?
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Posted 17 June 2013 - 09:39 PM

Re concubines I generally try and find ones with high attributes and an inheritable trait like genius, strong etc since these are often lowborn you generally lose boatlaods of prestige if you marry them, but making them into concubines you can spawn an awesome heir (my last three rulers have been quick, strong and a genius due to careful choice of wives, and a lot of luck and judicious assassinations. If you decide you have enough kids, just set the concubine aside and no more. I generally marry women who are too old to give birth for the stat bonuses, and get my heirs through concubines.

Plus if you take a prisoner as a concubine, you get a prestige boost, if you immediatly set them aside you can then marry them off amongst your court. Nice way to get norse kids with claims on juicy territory.
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Posted 18 June 2013 - 09:02 AM

I just won a war against more than half my own realm with only my retinue and personal levies. I have 15 prisoners in my dungeon! oh boy is this fun or what?
Now that my realm has finally stabilized I think I'm going to try and finally abuse the raiding feature.
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