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#221 User is offline   Gothos 

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 10:29 AM

Slight thread necro, but I've gone back to my Wendish ironman game.
I've managed to fight off the pretender, it turns out having replenishable armies is nothing to sneeze at. Fought off one more not soon after, started assassinating any further ones in the future.
I've expanded quite a bit. Kingdoms of Hungary, Wallachia, Germany, Denmark, Norway and Sweden are fully under my control now (Except for Munster and Lappland), and over half of Ruthenia too. I've grown to be the biggest military power, hold 3 empire and 1 kingdom titles, set up absolute crown authority everywhere I rule and am pretty well established. However, vassals within the kingdoms went a bit naught with inheritance and I've got counties going to the non-dejure ones here and there. Worked a bit to remedy that with some revokations and grants and whatnot, I did "fix" Hungary and Bohemia but Lithuania has some stuff in Poland and I don't like that. Still I paid for these revokations with one civil war for Independance, but hey, I'm alive.
Also, don't launch this game drunk on ironman. I misclicked when granting a duchy and I ended up giving my cousin the Duchy of Pomerania, with my super-buffed capital, instead of Orkney. Had to revoke three titles from the guy :p He still has 100 opinion of me, though!
I'm wondering what to do now. I've given the Kingdom of Ruthenia to a vassal and he seems capable of fighting his own dejure wars in the east. I could go all Holy War on Finland and bring them into the fold. I could go for Bavaria and Austria too and nom on these rich, rich provinces. I could invade Great Britain and finally stop those pesky vikings from appearing on my shores to pillage. I could go south and topple the only power capable of threathening me, Byzantium. Or just sit around and consolidate my power and let the empire grow richer.
Thoughts?
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 12:39 PM

Went back to attempting getting the Sayoshant achievement with 867 Karen start. Went splendid for quite a while. Subdued Khiva, Turkestan, and had an unlikely ally in that other zoroastrian guy not being dead after half a year, tipped the scales against Saffarids, expanded into Persia, usurped Persia, I was generally becoming the regional power steadily, even outweighting the Abbasid caliph. Then this happened.
In the middle of my holy war for Tigris against pretty much everyone in the region (the Caliph included), I was barely but steadily winning, when I had a claim faction pop up for Persia. Now, why does a guy at 100 relations start a faction and keeps at it for years? Ridiculous. Anyway, I'm probably guilty here myself as I've made a mistake. After making Persia my primary title and just conquering Fars and Esfahan I thought it'd be nice to switch my own demesne from Merv/Bukhara to those two strong new duchies. My mistake lied in doing the switch before the New Administration malus came off, resulting in a dramatic drop in my personal power and rise of various factions. Cue an even war and lot of losses and there they go, pressing a guy's claim on Persia.
When I misclicked and accepted their demands. Being left with the Shahdom of Khiva, Shahdom of Turkestan and no counties or duchies. And a holy war with the caliph in progress.
Joy, real joy. Fuck Ironman, really.
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Posted 02 March 2014 - 02:58 PM

So. Where to go next? Carve into the muslims in Arabia, pursue all of Hispania and into Morocco, or consume France? Note as Slavic I can't call Great Holy Wars on a whim like Norse, so it's just one duchy at a time.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 09:48 PM

Damn, Gothos. How do you even do that? I could barely conquer half of England with my Norse hordes, let alone half the continent. And now Mercia and Wessex got me cornered: if I wanna eat Scotland or Ireland, they'll flank me and steal East Anglia. Bloody Christians and their Holy Wars . . . I'm supposed to reform Norse to get somewhere against them, I guess. Then there's a bunch of half-brothers trying to stab my king in the back and I keep crushing and imprisoning them.
Man, I love this game.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 10:03 AM

Well, for one this game I'm not playing Ironman, so I've done some savescumming with, ie, rulers dying pretty early (age 48 natural causes? really?) and military blunders, but I wouldn't say it's made so much of a difference as to make this otherwise impossible. I've also tried to keep counties and duchies moving between my vassal kingdoms via console to keep their borders nice and tidy, but that's an uphill battle and I've long given up on it.

And yeah, as pagan you really want to reform your religion ASAP. The one time I played Norse I started as Svidjod and formed Scandinavia before I managed that. Being stuck at low CA and gavelkind is a major pain in the arse. But hey. With the ability to raid you should be able to raise mercs often. Subjugation is your friend. Consider emigrating back to Scandinavia to be safe from filthy catholics. Try to avoid landing your family or major houses, whenever you get a new title - county, duchy - if you can grant it to someone, use the find characters tool to find someone that is: male, not a ruler, your religion, your culture, not in a great house. Distribute power so that nobody can catch up to you within your realm and gun for that reformation. I guess reforming starting from England is hard.

Consider North Korea mode (banish all count+ vassals, keep everything in your demesne for max levy, periodically imprison and banish city mayors for cash).
Once you're big enough you'll be able to wage most wars using only your retinue and holy order, for which your vassals will hate you less (no raised levies penalty to opinion) and you'll be able to do them quicker (no need to disband and gather your whole army each county conquest, you can just keep on going). I did NK mode until I had kingdoms of Pomerania, Bohemia, Lithuania and Poland under my rule, then I realized I'm running out of people of my culture and religion to marry my daughters and sons to.

With luck you won't have any christian blobbing the way Francia did in my game. Once you control like 4-5 de jure kingdoms you may start giving kingdoms away (when you're emperor). Use the title grant as a safety device for your next heir - just let him give someone the kingdom and they'll love them and suport them. Don't create more than 1 empire title until it becomes a titular title (by kingdoms drifting from it to your held empire after 100 years of being with all its de jure borders within your empire). NEVER land your heir. Try to get geniuses on the throne (genius for wife is more important than an alliance from it or prestige).

If you've got enemies in there, just got to ask yourself: can you conquer in Ireland and Scotland faster than they're likely to take stuff from you in the south? I'll grant you, I only went to conquer Brittania because I was annoyed at the raiders showing up on my shores, and it took me about 50 years to conquer it all even as an established empire. Also had Leon and Navarra dipping their hands in there. Don't underestimate county conquests as a CB, if you can over time shatter the liege title like Duchy of Mercia, you can then probably pick on counts separately and on separate truces. Holy Wars will take you to war with everyone and their mothers and brothers and dogs. Good enough that France is unlikely to jump in to a Holy War on the other side of the channel.


Hm. I think I should consider an england start at some point to look at things from that perspective. You start so far away from your required holy sites, surrounded by christians. Interesting, interesting.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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