[Emurlahn]

Barghast, on 06 July 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

You have ANY idea how or why you were returned? I'm not making the same mistake as before. Lynching Thyrllan didn't work. I'm guessing lynching you would also be bad. Are you now the Ecto guy?

No, I am not the ecto guy. I am still Amee Najayin, the only thing changed about me is that I am alive again. The Ecto guy (aka Silanah/Thyrllan) is dead.

[Barghast]

I'm sorry to ask questions in different posts, but we have a million questions. SL mentioned something about being contacted from SH, and you mentioned Thyrllan can do something from SH. Why, if Thyrllan is town, is this being treated like an attack? One of us according to the scene even lashed out with magic at it. Any ideas on what's up with that? Also, we can trust which people in SH?

[Liosan]

You can't trust anybody, first of all. Secondly, never trust the dead.

That being said: What were the conversations in there pertaining to? Anything debated hotly?

[Emurlahn]

Barghast, on 06 July 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

I'm sorry to ask questions in different posts, but we have a million questions. SL mentioned something about being contacted from SH, and you mentioned Thyrllan can do something from SH. Why, if Thyrllan is town, is this being treated like an attack? One of us according to the scene even lashed out with magic at it. Any ideas on what's up with that? Also, we can trust which people in SH?

There's communication possible between Spectre Thread and down below. That's all I want to say. It isn't my ability though and I don't want to paint a target over whom initiates it (SL or someone in Spectre Thread). best you all assume that connections can be made.

Thyrllan is confusing me. We wouldn;t have voted him en bloc if we believed at the time of the votes that he wasn't pure evil. What he is now, I don't know. If he is town, he most definately made a bit of a mess of how he behaved in Spectre Thread.

I don't put much stock in scenes unless I can recognize something I do in there. So if the player leashing out comes forward, great. If not, I'll take it as a clue of some kind but since I don't know what, how, when or why, I assume it's nothing because it is all too easy to be lured into a false assumption. That doesn't mean that debating scenes is bad, it is just dangerous to attach conclusions to them unless you know meaning of the scene for certain.

For now, I'd trust Kalse and Fener. I don't know about Kaschan. I don't trust Serc, naturally.

[Emurlahn]

Liosan, on 06 July 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

You can't trust anybody, first of all. Secondly, never trust the dead.

That being said: What were the conversations in there pertaining to? Anything debated hotly?

Trying to set up a system to be constructive with you guys for the benefit of town, as we figure we can be honest above without a chance of being recruited there, hence, town can speak its mind, discuss, debate, reveal, work on stuff. Too bad that by your attitude, you don't seem very interested in it.

[Barghast]

This is seriously twisted. Emur, which Serc was posting in SH? The cult Serc? Or the initial Serc? Was Serc cult before he was 'possessed'? Did the cult Serc say anything in SH important? Did he let any cult information slip? You sound completely town, but we still have to be wary. I doubt you're in any danger to be lynched, but your credibility will need to be proven. It's only fair. Do you have a special skill that you can reveal?

[Liosan]

I'll listen as best I can. I won't let you guide my actions and thoughts. I haven't been there and you all could be making shit up at this point.

[Barghast]

Emurlahn, on 06 July 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

Barghast, on 06 July 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

I'm sorry to ask questions in different posts, but we have a million questions. SL mentioned something about being contacted from SH, and you mentioned Thyrllan can do something from SH. Why, if Thyrllan is town, is this being treated like an attack? One of us according to the scene even lashed out with magic at it. Any ideas on what's up with that? Also, we can trust which people in SH?

There's communication possible between Spectre Thread and down below. That's all I want to say. It isn't my ability though and I don't want to paint a target over whom initiates it (SL or someone in Spectre Thread). best you all assume that connections can be made.

Thyrllan is confusing me. We wouldn;t have voted him en bloc if we believed at the time of the votes that he wasn't pure evil. What he is now, I don't know. If he is town, he most definately made a bit of a mess of how he behaved in Spectre Thread.

I don't put much stock in scenes unless I can recognize something I do in there. So if the player leashing out comes forward, great. If not, I'll take it as a clue of some kind but since I don't know what, how, when or why, I assume it's nothing because it is all too easy to be lured into a false assumption. That doesn't mean that debating scenes is bad, it is just dangerous to attach conclusions to them unless you know meaning of the scene for certain.

For now, I'd trust Kalse and Fener. I don't know about Kaschan. I don't trust Serc, naturally.

You say you're still unsure about Kaschan. I thought be would have made the perfect recruit choice with him being the scholar. But he didn't CF cult. At least we know cult CFs cult now. Hmm. This is extreme.

[Liosan]

I don't trust the CF's either, lol. Maybe only the FM does so, not the recruits. Who knows. We don't.

[Liosan]

Emurlahn, on 06 July 2012 - 08:14 AM, said:

Liosan, on 06 July 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

You can't trust anybody, first of all. Secondly, never trust the dead.

That being said: What were the conversations in there pertaining to? Anything debated hotly?

Trying to set up a system to be constructive with you guys for the benefit of town, as we figure we can be honest above without a chance of being recruited there, hence, town can speak its mind, discuss, debate, reveal, work on stuff. Too bad that by your attitude, you don't seem very interested in it.

So it's your opinion, and those with you, that the ghost thread is cult free? Yet you then indicate you don't trust a couple of them (Kaschan and Serc (obviously)).

[Emurlahn]

Barghast, on 06 July 2012 - 08:15 AM, said:

This is seriously twisted. Emur, which Serc was posting in SH? The cult Serc? Or the initial Serc? Was Serc cult before he was 'possessed'? Did the cult Serc say anything in SH important? Did he let any cult information slip? You sound completely town, but we still have to be wary. I doubt you're in any danger to be lynched, but your credibility will need to be proven. It's only fair. Do you have a special skill that you can reveal?

Forgive me I won't go and search for a captain picard double facepalm.

You have your timing seriously wrong.

1. The Fener in SH who entered it day 1 at the same time as me was the original Serc and the second Fener. He posts in SH as Fener.
2. The cult Fener was, in the timeline, which is important, the second Serc. I very much assume he will post in SH as Serc.
3. I wasn't around in SH while the Bahamud arrived there. I signed off at 22.45 my time (it is now 10.18) last night, that was before he died. He is cult however and will play for cult, also in SH. This you can't know, of course, but... the above is worrying.


On to other stuff.
4. Good that you are wary.
5. Everyone is in danger of being lynched unless it is night. If I were CIed I'd be prime cult target.
6. Yes, I do have something I can reveal if necessary, it's up in Spectre Thread for them to check. It is nothing truly special rolewise, but still, cult may decide to take the role they know over the role they don't and recruit me, so I'm not going to reveal anything based on just your prompting. Suffice to say that I know a little bit of what Fener can do, and of what Kalse can do, and perhaps of what SL can do, too, seeing how he spoke of communication.

[Emurlahn]

Liosan, on 06 July 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 06 July 2012 - 08:14 AM, said:

Liosan, on 06 July 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

You can't trust anybody, first of all. Secondly, never trust the dead.

That being said: What were the conversations in there pertaining to? Anything debated hotly?

Trying to set up a system to be constructive with you guys for the benefit of town, as we figure we can be honest above without a chance of being recruited there, hence, town can speak its mind, discuss, debate, reveal, work on stuff. Too bad that by your attitude, you don't seem very interested in it.

So it's your opinion, and those with you, that the ghost thread is cult free? Yet you then indicate you don't trust a couple of them (Kaschan and Serc (obviously)).

Dude, get your timing straight.
My opinion is that neither myself, Fener or Kalse are cult. Those are the people that entered Spectre Thread day 1 that I have talked to.
I can't vouch for Silanah/Thyr as they were suspicious enough to be voted en bloc by the three of us. That hasn't changed for me but it might for Kalse and/or Fener.

I can't vouch for Kaschan because I haven't spoken to Kaschan, don't know if they agree with the system, haven't revealed, et cetera. Perhaps this will be established later on.
And Serc is obviously cult. He is not to be trusted.

[Liosan]

So, the player that talks gibberish is the FM, and jumped into Serc, after having killed Eloth from Fener's alt? Yes? Shouldn't he still be jumping then? What stopped him?

Edit: We are cross-posting. Don't bitch about my timing.

This post has been edited by Liosan: 06 July 2012 - 08:32 AM

[Rashan]

Helloes everyone, i'm back from being asleep! Will be around for ten minutes or so, another busy day awaits me. Should have time in around four hours again.

[Barghast]

We all have a special ability. In fact, I will waste mine right now just in case. I can gain information about the abilities of others on a limited basis. If this opens me up for recruit, so be it. If we spread ourselves out a bit they can't get us all. At least not at once. I was hoping to not have to reveal but I'm sure based on what Telas said earlier about my screw up that it will be needed anyway.

[Liosan]

@Rashan. You do this all the time to inflate your post count. It seriously bothers me. You've made some substantive posts, but most are this bullshit.

Vote Rashan

[Rashan]

Liosan, on 06 July 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

@Rashan. You do this all the time to inflate your post count. It seriously bothers me. You've made some substantive posts, but most are this bullshit.

Vote Rashan

Can't a man have a busy week(end)? I don't do it to inflate my postcount, i just do it to let the thread know i'll be back later. Geez.

[Anomandaris]

I tend to believe Emur for now. If he lied he would get voted by those in SH pretty fast, I think.

[Emurlahn]

Liosan, on 06 July 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

So, the player that talks gibberish is the FM, and jumped into Serc, after having killed Eloth from Fener's alt? Yes? Shouldn't he still be jumping then? What stopped him?

Edit: We are cross-posting. Don't bitch about my timing.

He is a ninja. Ninja die when they kill.
In this case, he's a ninja-fm, imnsho. AKA: he jumps into another alt, kills someone using the description of the alt he came from (the ninja persona in scene 1, who was then told to not be a professional killer) llives for a cycle as his new alt, then dies. The town vs scum ratio is 2 town deaths for 1 scum death, good deal for scum.

If he comes back, he can do this again, and if he manages to do so before we + SH can lynch him, he can do this trick again. You need to think outside of the box in this game. Returning to thread is seriously messing with normal assumptions and power levels and opens up a whole bag of tricks.

[Liosan]

And yet it's half of your posts. I've looked. You use it to hop in and out at strategic points and then just disappear again. It's classic coasting play.