[Tellan]

I am back as well

[Barghast]

Tellan, on 05 July 2012 - 02:56 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on 04 July 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

I wanted to point out that I don't think Tellan is the sandy-haired woman. they were the person who was screaming about the ghosts.

Why was I screaming about ghosts? Maybe something you did to me gave you a body?

Doesn't this imply that you are the sandy haired woman?

[Rashan]

Telas, on 05 July 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

I am back now too.

Thanks for making me look suspicious by returning ALL AT ONCE guys.

[Telas]

And then disappearing again because no one has actually said anything interesting.


Well, except for Barghast. He DOES imply that, doesn't he.

[D'riss]

I am here. Getting caught up

[D'riss]

Well that was interesting.

After reading all of the deaths I started to think how is this game going to last. Now with the addition of Thy I think I might have figured it out. Thy said that he was talking to Fener in a SH that wasn't a SH. I think that players who aren't lynched will be brought back under a different alt. What mechanic will bring them back I don't know but since Fener's vote is being counted by PS. I think that the dead might also be able to vote once a day. I would hazard to think that the newly reborn players wouldn't be cult.


I am a little hesitant to go looking to lynch female players seeing as though we would only have a 1 in 3 chance of lynching the scum esper's host.


Thoughts?

[Sheltatha Lore]

D, on 05 July 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

Well that was interesting.

After reading all of the deaths I started to think how is this game going to last. Now with the addition of Thy I think I might have figured it out. Thy said that he was talking to Fener in a SH that wasn't a SH. I think that players who aren't lynched will be brought back under a different alt. What mechanic will bring them back I don't know but since Fener's vote is being counted by PS. I think that the dead might also be able to vote once a day. I would hazard to think that the newly reborn players wouldn't be cult.


I am a little hesitant to go looking to lynch female players seeing as though we would only have a 1 in 3 chance of lynching the scum esper's host.


Thoughts?

Kalse was lynched, and he currently has a vote down on Thyrllan, so it can't be only non-lynched players that get to go to the Spectre thread / get to drop a vote. Kalse was lynched by all fifteen players (which I'm currently assuming is one of the Apostl'eyd powers). I'm thinking that the others also had access to the Spectre thread, it's just that only Fener posted while Silanah/Thyrllan were in there.

[Thyrllan]

I believe only players who don't go to spectre thread are those modkilled,

also, spectres don't influence the VC numbers.

[Serc]

Hmmm. Only have a few thoughts.

I sort of like Anomandaris's train of thought. The Osseric case by Kaschan being dropped MIGHT lead us somewhere. We could Lynch Osseric and maybe find out if Kaschan is still playing for our team. He's the only person who is verified to have some additional power the benefit us. Then again, we only felt that he really was town based on the fact that his reveal was factual. He claimed the scholar and was able to list the descriptions of everyone here. I see myself in his list, so its definately true, but we can't be 100 percent sure it's a town-side role/ability. Although I have to say it would be odd for it not to be.

With that said, even if he hasn't been, he will likely be a powerful recruit by cult. TMDI engage.

Perhaps we could pressure Osseric and find something out. Maybe not.

@Kaschan - I don't see where you got that Fener was looking for someone based on hair color. To me it is him playing up to the fact that he is. 'Not-so-master assassin.' In my opinion, he was just showing how stupid he was by forgetting the hair color.

I'm also worried about Thyrllan. He may be the neutral Apos-thing. If that is true then we don't have to worry. But he himself said he was freed by Fener's blood. Seems sort of Dark, imo. Please give is more, Thyr.

[Serc]

Also Fener is voting for Osseric. Might be signalling something?

But is Fener good or bad?

[D'riss]

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

D, on 05 July 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

Well that was interesting.

After reading all of the deaths I started to think how is this game going to last. Now with the addition of Thy I think I might have figured it out. Thy said that he was talking to Fener in a SH that wasn't a SH. I think that players who aren't lynched will be brought back under a different alt. What mechanic will bring them back I don't know but since Fener's vote is being counted by PS. I think that the dead might also be able to vote once a day. I would hazard to think that the newly reborn players wouldn't be cult.


I am a little hesitant to go looking to lynch female players seeing as though we would only have a 1 in 3 chance of lynching the scum esper's host.


Thoughts?

Kalse was lynched, and he currently has a vote down on Thyrllan, so it can't be only non-lynched players that get to go to the Spectre thread / get to drop a vote. Kalse was lynched by all fifteen players (which I'm currently assuming is one of the Apostl'eyd powers). I'm thinking that the others also had access to the Spectre thread, it's just that only Fener posted while Silanah/Thyrllan were in there.

Good point. Well their has to be a way to actually kill people off otherwise this game will be unending. There has to be a balance of some kind. Every single person who dies can't possibly be reborn. Perhaps the only people who can really die are those who are possessed by the esper's.

[D'riss]

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Also Fener is voting for Osseric. Might be signalling something?

But is Fener good or bad?

The signalling thing is possible. Does anyone know if anyone else is good or bad at this point. Other then scum of course. I am going to treat the deads vote the same as the living. Actually even less because I can't ask them questions.

[Serc]

D, on 05 July 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Also Fener is voting for Osseric. Might be signalling something?

But is Fener good or bad?

The signalling thing is possible. Does anyone know if anyone else is good or bad at this point. Other then scum of course. I am going to treat the deads vote the same as the living. Actually even less because I can't ask them questions.

You're right, D'riss.

We may end up giving too much credibility to dead player's votes.

Here is what I'm wondering. Will it tell us if we Lynch or kill a cult or town?

Would they reveal that in SH if it's not listed? Maybe they will have their own battle going on down there.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

D, on 05 July 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Also Fener is voting for Osseric. Might be signalling something?

But is Fener good or bad?

The signalling thing is possible. Does anyone know if anyone else is good or bad at this point. Other then scum of course. I am going to treat the deads vote the same as the living. Actually even less because I can't ask them questions.

You're right, D'riss.

We may end up giving too much credibility to dead player's votes.

Here is what I'm wondering. Will it tell us if we Lynch or kill a cult or town?

Would they reveal that in SH if it's not listed? Maybe they will have their own battle going on down there.

I'm thinking that since we have not received a CF on any of the dead people, no, we will not be told if they are town or cult. I also doubt that they get that in the Spectre Thread seeing as they will be thrown back into the game, and Thyrllan either doesn't have any useful information, or is hiding something from us.

[D'riss]

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

D, on 05 July 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Also Fener is voting for Osseric. Might be signalling something?

But is Fener good or bad?

The signalling thing is possible. Does anyone know if anyone else is good or bad at this point. Other then scum of course. I am going to treat the deads vote the same as the living. Actually even less because I can't ask them questions.

You're right, D'riss.

We may end up giving too much credibility to dead player's votes.

Here is what I'm wondering. Will it tell us if we Lynch or kill a cult or town?

Would they reveal that in SH if it's not listed? Maybe they will have their own battle going on down there.

If the game is ongoing in a sub forum until players are reborn then I doubt that anyone is saying if what role they were in a previous life. I suspect based off of the op that there are mechanics that hopefully will come into play that will reveal at least partial CFs. Also if there are no CF's then there might be finders who get a players CF upon death. At least that is how it has worked in other games with out a full CF on thread.

[Serc]

So we will only know if we have won if and when we kill all cult. Because it says in the OP that even if we kill the Cult Recruiter,.it will jump to another Cult. So we have to kill them all. Sounds fairly normal in that way, at least. But all they have to do is gain majority.

And if we don't Lynch someone, it is random. Let's at least not let that happen. The odds of it hitting cult right now are less than town. There's no telling how many cult we are up against just yet, but it says they start small.

So it seems that at least in some ways, it's not such a twisted game.

Now we just have to find out what 'dead' is.

Do we have to kill them more than once ?

Shit! Maybe we have a person that can speak to the dead. Or someone that can resurrect?

SL said he was the priest. Maybe he meant it two ways. He was the one to bring up special roles.

[Serc]

Fener, on 03 July 2012 - 04:29 PM, said:

Eloth, on 03 July 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 July 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

Lots of big words there.

Frankly, I expect some deaths will occur and thus that basic, but accurate, chart will quickly break down.

I like big words.


Anyhow, from the wording that the main recruiter ability is given by the cult based Apostléy thingummy (which can jump, as per the OP) this isn't simply a game of whack the recruiter. Of course, getting him is still the most important thing, but it is unlikely to leave us with only 1-2 harmless recruits to mop up.

With that in mind, a few vigs seem needed to get back tempo and get rid of all Bahama-mutants, at the least in the WCS of a recruit a night.
Gambling that recruitment pace is perhaps lower than lynching pace, thus buying town the time to mop up a cult, is wishful thinking.

But many kills? No. And anyhow, a vig isn't something to be used willy-nilly.

I'm going to HAVE to disagree. In fact, I think you might be the man I was sent here to kill.

Only.....uh....I.....I can't remember the description they gave me.

Life was easier in The Claw. At least then I usually had 2-3 others to depend on for things like 'remembering who to kill.'

I...uh....are you the one they paid me to kill? Be honest, now. I..uh..I'll kill you if you lie.

Fener didn't say anything out of character. And as soon as he chose a target the whole sphere explosion-thing happened. I'm guessing Fener had to kill someone, and that Eloth and Fener were just playing this out.

But Kalse's saying something about "they're going to kill that poor woman" seems odd. It is extremely bad luck that he's dead, imo. He may have been a psychic or something.

Are we assuming thata no lynch gives us a random Lynch? I think so.

[Barghast]

D, on 05 July 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

Well that was interesting.

After reading all of the deaths I started to think how is this game going to last. Now with the addition of Thy I think I might have figured it out. Thy said that he was talking to Fener in a SH that wasn't a SH. I think that players who aren't lynched will be brought back under a different alt. What mechanic will bring them back I don't know but since Fener's vote is being counted by PS. I think that the dead might also be able to vote once a day. I would hazard to think that the newly reborn players wouldn't be cult.


I am a little hesitant to go looking to lynch female players seeing as though we would only have a 1 in 3 chance of lynching the scum esper's host.


Thoughts?

This is the second person to say that those fresh from SH/limbo/whatever death are probably not cult. This may be true for the first instance because of game balance (Thyr) but later people who move out of there I will consider equally suspect unless further info is presented about it

[Barghast]

Thyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

I believe only players who don't go to spectre thread are those modkilled,

also, spectres don't influence the VC numbers.

how do you know these 2 things?

[D'riss]

Barghast, on 05 July 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

D, on 05 July 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

Well that was interesting.

After reading all of the deaths I started to think how is this game going to last. Now with the addition of Thy I think I might have figured it out. Thy said that he was talking to Fener in a SH that wasn't a SH. I think that players who aren't lynched will be brought back under a different alt. What mechanic will bring them back I don't know but since Fener's vote is being counted by PS. I think that the dead might also be able to vote once a day. I would hazard to think that the newly reborn players wouldn't be cult.


I am a little hesitant to go looking to lynch female players seeing as though we would only have a 1 in 3 chance of lynching the scum esper's host.


Thoughts?

This is the second person to say that those fresh from SH/limbo/whatever death are probably not cult. This may be true for the first instance because of game balance (Thyr) but later people who move out of there I will consider equally suspect unless further info is presented about it

It will depend on who is sending the dead back. If thy is right on who sent him

Thyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 03:02 AM, said:

I am a ghost sent by the lich KIng from the OP to help adventurers against the Bahamut.

back then it is unlikely that the lynch king would send back cult. However if Thy is full of shit (which we won't know until one of the other dead come back) then it is completely possible that cult could come back. But once again that leads us to a never ending game loop. In order to avoid said loop their must be some kind of balance.