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Ruse, on 12 July 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

this is an incredibly convoluted game - well done

Tennes, on 12 July 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

That's been what I've been actually doing to the T. I was just waiting for your vote update.

I think we I can get Rashan off the lynch and get them to lynch Driss or groan.
I might vig.either Telas or SL.

Lol told u I had SH convinced I was possible town, even when CFing.scum 9000 times.

Tennes, on 12 July 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

I get to goto sh soon as I vig too, right.

If I can get Driss or someone else to 6 votes I can vig goto sh and vote just like I did on thyrllan after I vigged Kaschan

Yeah, you go straight to SH.

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D, on 12 July 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

I am still not kidding about sending me to SH. DON"T. I am tired of this. If I don't die I will live with it. If I die. I want this shit to be over.

D, on 12 July 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

I have refrained from violating the spirit of the game so far. Right now I wont.

Bullshit. You dumped a bunch of Esper info on-thread with almost 0 effort to make it look like anything else AND you continuously threaten to break the game because you don't want to play it (so why the fuck did you sign up?) AND you keep trying to bend the rules of your given abilities by not following them (I'm ignoring all non-complete Esper transfer lists, so the most recent whole one is still the one I will use).

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Tellan, on 12 July 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

Fuck it, I'm so confused right now. If D'riss is Scum, I'll be kicking myself in SH if we no-lynch.

Tennes, on 12 July 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

Rashan hasn't said anything about me mentioning killing SL. If its his recruit he should say something somehow.

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Yup, if Brujah kills Tapper that will have been a bad lack-of-move on Berk's part

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D, on 12 July 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

WHAT the fuck do you mean. I fucking took out the fucking players names. I changed some of the wording. I have not revealed that I am a esper. I did not directly quote any of your fucking posts. You left shit open and I took advantage of it. I don't care what fucking list you use. Make up one of your own. If I live through this don't expect another list from me. Just choose who the fuck you want to be the next Esper. Balance the game how the fuck you want. I don't fucking care. I have spent fucking hour and hours playing this shit. Building shit talking shit over. I liked this game, BUT DON"T FUCking SEND ME TO SH. That isn't that difficult to do. Once I die in this role I do not want to continue to help fucking town. Those asshole who remain deserve to lose.

"That isn't difficult to do" -> No, it is not difficult to do. Randomly changing the game mechanics half-way through the game, unbalancing it completely would not be difficult to do. Making you a Predator would not be difficult to do.

Unfortunately, kicking you in the balls from over here is very difficult to do...

D, on 12 July 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

Yes I am a asshole. I am a evil horrible fucker. But your shit isn't broken yet.

Yet.

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Tellan, on 12 July 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

And we no-lynched. Fuck. Please let Rashan be scum

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Osseric, on 12 July 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

Read Kalse.
I will kill him if he is not Town.

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Tennes, on 12 July 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

PLEASE POST THIS IN THE REAL SH.

SORRY ELOTH. I FUCKED THAT UP ROYALLY.

SORRY RASHAN, I FIGURED IF I KILLED DRISS I'D LOSE TRUST IN SH WHICH I THOUGHT I'D NEED.

HAD NO IDEA SL/ELOTH WAS SCUM.

I'M.FN STUPID.

Damn. I should have killed Telas . I thought Tellan would choose SOMEONE else.

Tennes, on 12 July 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

ROFL. That still has to be the most EPIC fuck up to end a game ever. I mean I can't put any blame on Rashan, but I mentioned SL a few times and waited for some kind of sign to go ahead or not. Then finally like 7 minutes later he did mention the What happens when you die, Tellan. But that is too obvious a signal. Damn Damn. When he didn't mention shit about SL after I waited til almost last minute, I figured ok. I should have known Eloth was fn scum with me. Fuck. I thought his recruit was Tellan like an idiot, then Tellan kills his ass.

Eloth Rashan I take full blame!! Fuck.

Tennes, on 12 July 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

Great I killed both fn recruits! I'm retiring from Mafia!

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Ahh, game is done. A nice tense finisher, those are the best.

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Dumping the Luvaya-Kalse-ansible/Sabira-D'riss-vengeance lover convo:

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

D'riss, Kalse, you may now speak off-thread here.

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

Hello D'riss. I am Luyava Fiodethel, a mage of great power. Power enough to speak to you from beyond the grave.

I have placed my faith in you as a fellow adventurer and town member. As a gesture of your kinship and adventurer, I ask that you also provide me with your true name, so that I can confirm the truth of your words if the worst were to happen amd you were to die.

I have much information to share with you if you respond with trust in kind. Town needs this information, and now only you can provide it to them.

I look forward to your reply, D'riss. I hope I am not disappointed.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 02:25 AM, said:

I am Sabira Annora.


I will be on in the morning I am going to bed. I know that you could be trusted when you were alive.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

I am more then willing to hear what you have to say and willing to pass on anything that you give me that I feel I can pass on with out putting my self on the lynch or NK line.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 04:48 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Ok, Sabira, it's time to get some info in your hands. Trust Emurlahn. He has not lied yet.

Be wary of Rashan. We all suspect him as a cult recruit and I dare say we may start throwing votes his direction.

Here's a list of people who are currently confirmed as dead:

Kaschan
Serc
Fener
Kalse
Thyrllan
Anomandaris
Barghast

At the time of the last lynch, there were 2 cult members alive.

This is a quick update to give you some information to work with. Don't get recruited. Post more often as well, not suspiciously, but so you don't come under fire as a lynch target or cultist.

By the way, do you mind revealing which of the adventurers you are? As in, your description. For instance, I'm a young female mage with black and white streaked hair.

It wouldn't do me any good for me to tell you what I look like. My description says that people don't know what I look like. Either young and beautiful or old and mutant like. I can have long fingers or normal fingers. I am considered to be the best adventurer alive. I have only been able to pick myself out of one scene but I think that I have been in a couple.

I am very weary of Rashan I can't tell if he is a noob over his head or a cult trying to hide. But he is doing a good job of digging himself a hole.
Believe you me I don't want to get lynched. My role is fucking awesome. I think that the FM jumped out of Barghast and into someone else. But based off of the CF I don't know if he jumped into the newest recruit or not. Don't be surprised if I don't post this information on to the thread right away. I am playing a long game and have a lot of info that I am using. Also I believe that the player in Serc's alt might be the recruit from night one. The FM would have jumped into him during the day so your count would be correct at the lynch.

Ok, what scenes do you suspect yourself to be in? I have a suspicion about which adventurer you are but I can't say for sure yet.

We are assuming the FM is jumping aren't sure if the CFs are matching the player or the alt of the player, or if that player is permanently dead or if they are taking over another alt and someone else is put into the dead target. For instance, when Fener vigged Eloth, the Fener that came to SH was not the original Fener, but Serc. The original player in Fener took over Serc's alt.

As for abilities, do you mean abilities of people on thread or in SH?

I think that I was the lady who stepped up to translate the Griffs after Kaschan died. I think...

Abilities of the people on the thread. I can't do anything with the people in SH.

Yeah I have a couple of posts on the thread that outline what I am talking about in regards to the FM's jumping.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

It is also possible that Barghast was the recruit from last night. So I wouldn't trust him.


People who can be trusted in SH are

You
Kaschan
Anomardaris
Fener
Thyllan

People who can be trusted on the thread

Myself
Emur
Telas (Probably)

If you can get info from any of the trusted up their so that I can expand my list down here that would be great. I should be able to add to my list down here after tonight.

Ok, I agree with all that except maybe Telas, I don't have a good read on him yet. He seems scummy occasionally but could obviously be town too.

I use someone elses ability and verified that he was a adventurer as of last night. I didn't get his name though. I am going to try to see if I can get that tonight. I trust him for now. But with the FM jump I put him at a probably.

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

It is also possible that Barghast was the recruit from last night. So I wouldn't trust him.


People who can be trusted in SH are

You
Kaschan
Anomardaris
Fener
Thyllan

People who can be trusted on the thread

Myself
Emur
Telas (Probably)

If you can get info from any of the trusted up their so that I can expand my list down here that would be great. I should be able to add to my list down here after tonight.

Ok, I agree with all that except maybe Telas, I don't have a good read on him yet. He seems scummy occasionally but could obviously be town too.

I use someone elses ability and verified that he was a adventurer as of last night. I didn't get his name though. I am going to try to see if I can get that tonight. I trust him for now. But with the FM jump I put him at a probably.

Ok, good to know, Telas is a PI. So you are able to use other people's abilities?

Also, the reason SH is still important is that people are coming back from SH - Emur is a prime example. He has a lover ability that he could not use while dead but can now use while alive. Similarly, Fener has a guard that can only be used while alive.

I do have some alignment information I can give you...need to wait and confirm some things though.

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D, on 06 July 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Ok, Sabira, it's time to get some info in your hands. Trust Emurlahn. He has not lied yet.

Be wary of Rashan. We all suspect him as a cult recruit and I dare say we may start throwing votes his direction.

Here's a list of people who are currently confirmed as dead:

Kaschan
Serc
Fener
Kalse
Thyrllan
Anomandaris
Barghast

At the time of the last lynch, there were 2 cult members alive.

This is a quick update to give you some information to work with. Don't get recruited. Post more often as well, not suspiciously, but so you don't come under fire as a lynch target or cultist.

By the way, do you mind revealing which of the adventurers you are? As in, your description. For instance, I'm a young female mage with black and white streaked hair.

It wouldn't do me any good for me to tell you what I look like. My description says that people don't know what I look like. Either young and beautiful or old and mutant like. I can have long fingers or normal fingers. I am considered to be the best adventurer alive. I have only been able to pick myself out of one scene but I think that I have been in a couple.

I am very weary of Rashan I can't tell if he is a noob over his head or a cult trying to hide. But he is doing a good job of digging himself a hole.
Believe you me I don't want to get lynched. My role is fucking awesome. I think that the FM jumped out of Barghast and into someone else. But based off of the CF I don't know if he jumped into the newest recruit or not. Don't be surprised if I don't post this information on to the thread right away. I am playing a long game and have a lot of info that I am using. Also I believe that the player in Serc's alt might be the recruit from night one. The FM would have jumped into him during the day so your count would be correct at the lynch.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Can you tell me who down here on towns team has what power?

D, on 06 July 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

It is also possible that Barghast was the recruit from last night. So I wouldn't trust him.


People who can be trusted in SH are

You
Kaschan
Anomardaris
Fener
Thyllan

People who can be trusted on the thread

Myself
Emur
Telas (Probably)

If you can get info from any of the trusted up their so that I can expand my list down here that would be great. I should be able to add to my list down here after tonight.

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 04:48 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Ok, Sabira, it's time to get some info in your hands. Trust Emurlahn. He has not lied yet.

Be wary of Rashan. We all suspect him as a cult recruit and I dare say we may start throwing votes his direction.

Here's a list of people who are currently confirmed as dead:

Kaschan
Serc
Fener
Kalse
Thyrllan
Anomandaris
Barghast

At the time of the last lynch, there were 2 cult members alive.

This is a quick update to give you some information to work with. Don't get recruited. Post more often as well, not suspiciously, but so you don't come under fire as a lynch target or cultist.

By the way, do you mind revealing which of the adventurers you are? As in, your description. For instance, I'm a young female mage with black and white streaked hair.

It wouldn't do me any good for me to tell you what I look like. My description says that people don't know what I look like. Either young and beautiful or old and mutant like. I can have long fingers or normal fingers. I am considered to be the best adventurer alive. I have only been able to pick myself out of one scene but I think that I have been in a couple.

I am very weary of Rashan I can't tell if he is a noob over his head or a cult trying to hide. But he is doing a good job of digging himself a hole.
Believe you me I don't want to get lynched. My role is fucking awesome. I think that the FM jumped out of Barghast and into someone else. But based off of the CF I don't know if he jumped into the newest recruit or not. Don't be surprised if I don't post this information on to the thread right away. I am playing a long game and have a lot of info that I am using. Also I believe that the player in Serc's alt might be the recruit from night one. The FM would have jumped into him during the day so your count would be correct at the lynch.

Ok, what scenes do you suspect yourself to be in? I have a suspicion about which adventurer you are but I can't say for sure yet.

We are assuming the FM is jumping aren't sure if the CFs are matching the player or the alt of the player, or if that player is permanently dead or if they are taking over another alt and someone else is put into the dead target. For instance, when Fener vigged Eloth, the Fener that came to SH was not the original Fener, but Serc. The original player in Fener took over Serc's alt.

As for abilities, do you mean abilities of people on thread or in SH?

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

It is also possible that Barghast was the recruit from last night. So I wouldn't trust him.


People who can be trusted in SH are

You
Kaschan
Anomardaris
Fener
Thyllan

People who can be trusted on the thread

Myself
Emur
Telas (Probably)

If you can get info from any of the trusted up their so that I can expand my list down here that would be great. I should be able to add to my list down here after tonight.

Ok, I agree with all that except maybe Telas, I don't have a good read on him yet. He seems scummy occasionally but could obviously be town too.

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D, on 06 July 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Ok, good to know, Telas is a PI. So you are able to use other people's abilities?

Also, the reason SH is still important is that people are coming back from SH - Emur is a prime example. He has a lover ability that he could not use while dead but can now use while alive. Similarly, Fener has a guard that can only be used while alive.

I do have some alignment information I can give you...need to wait and confirm some things though.

I don't get to find out what specific abilities I am using, but yes.

The question is should I use Emur's lover on someone who I think is town to expand the trust circle or let him use it himself. This is why I love my role and don't want to get lynched. I get to make decisions for other people and am seeing the game from a higher level.

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

Verrrryyy interesting. Ok then. Info from down below:

Finds:

Day 1 - Shelly, inno
Day 2 - Rashan, inno

I was highly suspicious of Rashan but this seems to clear him for now. SL could be a recruit at this point though.

What would really be great is if you could make Eloth use his lover ability on YOU, and then I could connect with HIM, and we'd have a whole train of information going. This way you can both independently confirm that you are allies but I can also pass information to you through him. Or I could keep my connection with you and you can pass it through him, which might be smarter. Thoughts? Would that even work from your ability usage perspective?

D, on 06 July 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

I was going to make Emur use his lover ability to Telas. I do not know if I can have someones ability work on myself. But it is worth a shot. It will increase our circle but not the circle of people who we can trust. But it would allow for us to harness our knowledge really really well and direct things from both places using confirmed town in both sh and the thread.

Who were the finds from?


You don't have to worry about me getting recruit at least not right away. What type of person I am gives me a little bit of protection. It is all about narrowing the list of suspects.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

Ok so I changed Emurs ability to myself. If we both make it to night then a lover connection should work. Unless PS tells me that I can't direct something onto myself.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

Right now Shelly could be a recruit and Rash could be the FM...OR Telas could be the FM. I can always box myself into a corner with WIFOM

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Yeah, WIFOM is a bitch.

P-S, can you confirm the rules on the lover connections please? Can D'riss use his ability to force the lover connection from Emur to himself, and can I maintain my connection with D'riss at the same time? (I hope this isn't breaking the rules.)

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Also with Rashan coming back inno on night 2, doesn't that clear him from FM status today?

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Also with Rashan coming back inno on night 2, doesn't that clear him from FM status today?

No the FM kills and I think jumps during the day not night. So anyone who was cleared at night is a possibility during the day. Shit even Emur could be the FM. I like to think that it would be difficult for him to jump into me I have a certain posting style that can be hard to copy unless I am copying someone else.

Ok. There is speculation from Kaschan in SH that the FM may be a town role. I don't know why yet. I can also confirm Kaschan's ability continues to work, so we will have updated scum numbers after the lynch today.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 06:01 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Also with Rashan coming back inno on night 2, doesn't that clear him from FM status today?

No the FM kills and I think jumps during the day not night. So anyone who was cleared at night is a possibility during the day. Shit even Emur could be the FM. I like to think that it would be difficult for him to jump into me I have a certain posting style that can be hard to copy unless I am copying someone else.

Ok. There is speculation from Kaschan in SH that the FM may be a town role. I don't know why yet. I can also confirm Kaschan's ability continues to work, so we will have updated scum numbers after the lynch today.

Tell Kaschan that doesn't make any sense. Unless the FM is able to specifically know and target recruits I don't know why Kaschan would think that the FM is town. Plus the problem with that is he keeps killing and targeting strong town roles.

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

I'll relay the information. However, we have a working theory that when the FM jumps, he actually dies and comes to SH, then returns to the thread the next day and whoever's alt he takes over is put into his old alt. This means the current Serc in SH is almost definitely scum and Barghast is the FM right now. When the FM jumps again, Barg will be scum as well.

Kaschan just left for a bit but he's working up his theory, I'll keep you updated on how it fleshes out. I wouldn't say for sure that the FM jumps during the day - from SH it looks like they both die and appear in SH, then there is alt-swapping at night and he gets a new alt. No proof either way yet, though.

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Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 06:01 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Also with Rashan coming back inno on night 2, doesn't that clear him from FM status today?

No the FM kills and I think jumps during the day not night. So anyone who was cleared at night is a possibility during the day. Shit even Emur could be the FM. I like to think that it would be difficult for him to jump into me I have a certain posting style that can be hard to copy unless I am copying someone else.

Ok. There is speculation from Kaschan in SH that the FM may be a town role. I don't know why yet. I can also confirm Kaschan's ability continues to work, so we will have updated scum numbers after the lynch today.

Tell Kaschan that doesn't make any sense. Unless the FM is able to specifically know and target recruits I don't know why Kaschan would think that the FM is town. Plus the problem with that is he keeps killing and targeting strong town roles.

Another possibility is that it's a town role designed to balance out the scum by forcing the FM to kill someone each day. He may just have gotten unlucky with the town bit, but actually, he seems to have killed two scum, so that is definitely in town's favor, regardless of the confusion it's causing.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

I'll relay the information. However, we have a working theory that when the FM jumps, he actually dies and comes to SH, then returns to the thread the next day and whoever's alt he takes over is put into his old alt. This means the current Serc in SH is almost definitely scum and Barghast is the FM right now. When the FM jumps again, Barg will be scum as well.

Kaschan just left for a bit but he's working up his theory, I'll keep you updated on how it fleshes out. I wouldn't say for sure that the FM jumps during the day - from SH it looks like they both die and appear in SH, then there is alt-swapping at night and he gets a new alt. No proof either way yet, though.

That sounds like some kind of Kaschan crazyness. Tell him to get inside out of the heat. I doubt that we are looking at something like that. The FM has CFed as the same name each time. It is possible that he is town and that it happens as you say. But I would be very surprised.

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

Ok, so I can signal Emur here. What do you think about Rashan? I'm trying to decide what info to give Emur. Rashan isn't off my list but he did come up inno today, so I almost want to clear him for Emur since we have no idea who the FM could be. You could probably even say that on thread as your own speculation without giving anything away.

What do you think? We don't have a solid target for the FM right now so I feel like I should clear Rashan, but you recommend we keep looking or something like that.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

I think that we should keep looking. If we get focused on the FM (proving that someone is a FM is really really hard to do) then we could waste a lot of time. Lets narrow down the suspect list for the other Cult member.

D'riss, Emurlahn, Liosan, Osseric, Rashan, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tellan

Ok if we mark off everyone who either I have cleared or you have cleared that only leaves us with 3 possibilities for the other cult member.

Liosan, Osseric, and Tellan.

I think that we should focus on them for the cult recruiter.

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

Ok, I agree. So, just to confirm, I'm going to clear Rashan for Emur. Agreed?

D, on 06 July 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

I hate to do it as I want to lynch him almost as bad as Emur does but yeah for the sake of today lets clear him and look at the 3 who we haven't cleared yet.

Which one of the 3 should we look at first?

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

Ok, just going through the thread slowly. Both Liosan and Tellan were on the failed Kaschan train that got me killed; either Osseric is laying low as scum and doesn't want to be visible, or a cautious townie. His play was slightly erratic though when he started posting. Also, on day 1, Tellan and Liosan went back and forth a lot in some chummy day-1 type posting, unusual of a single cult recruiter, so I say we look at Osseric first just based on that info alone.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

Sounds good. It will make Kaschan happy anyway. He has had a hard on for him all game.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

I am tempted to have everyone who we trust in SH pile onto Osseric so I don't have to make another case...

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

Say the word, brother, and I'll bring the storm.

If I can, that is.

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D, on 06 July 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

I am going to take off in a bit. I am going through the thread trying to build a case. He has a lot of crazy ideas on day 2. It shouldn't be hard. Liosan is also suspicious. Tellan isn't as suspicious which is suspicious to me.


Let me see if I can get a case. If not I will vote and go home. Then try to get SH to follow on. I am sure that Emur will get involved then. By the way I don't post during the weekend.

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

No problem dude. Were you able to confirm that you can use Emur's ability to form a bond between the two of you? If so, I may break contact with you for a day and join with Eloth when night resolves, just so that we can talk over the weekend (if you aren't going to be around). Thoughts on that?

I've got SH honing in on the Osseric lynch. I'm not going to vote immediately so I maintain a little distance. But I think we can say that with SH's help and Emur that Osseric will go down.

Nice case btw. Nothing too fancy but solid points.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

Because I'm using another's power that isn't my own I am not allowed to know if it will work. However ps did mention that I can force their actions onto myself.

If you want to break off this weekend that is fine. But I don't want to have to go through emur to cordinated with you during the week. We are both on at similar times while emur is only on earlier in the day it seems like.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:

Sigh... Fuck nuts get on when I get off and have been on all game. If osseric isn't cult I am going after liosan

Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:

Ok, I'm going to keep my bond with you then, I think that will play well. I can have you pass info to Emur to prove that you and I are really communicating.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

Did you notice how liosan came at me when I made a case on osseric (who is loony toons). Fucking bastards posting as soon as I go home. I am looking on my phone.

D, on 09 July 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

Does anyone up there have a vote removing day power????


If so why did they remove from only osseric and liosan?

D, on 09 July 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:

Never mind the liosan removal. Kalse are you around? What do you make of the votes disappearing? Should we flip to liosan or Tellan? or stick with Osseric?

There seems to be some small amount of Osseric resistance, but it is hard to tell. It could easily be ambivalence

D, on 09 July 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

I just had a thought. What if the player who caused the vote removal is the neutral esper. That would be a insanely powerful tool which could be used by either side.That actually give me a decent pause in the lynch of Osseric. Of course I can easily WIFOM the shit out of that by saying that could be what scum want us to think.

D, on 09 July 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

Obviously everything that I said needs to be taken in the context that it looked like someone removed all of Osserics votes.

[Path-Shaper]

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

Hey, I've kept my lover connection with you open. Were you able to connect with Emur?

Sorry it was a crazy day at work. I'll be on more later.

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

I've got some good info for you too - but I want to make sure you were able to contact Emur. I don't mean to be cagey but I need some proof because we can potentially win this thing very soon.

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 04:22 AM, said:

I'll toss this out there first - Ruse is Serc, and we have strongly suspected Serc to be scum in SH. I would not trust him. Contact Emur and have him ask me to flash vote the only living player whose name also.begins with the name.of the person resurrected from SH. Not a lot of proof but just some display of trust, and he'll know it's not a real vote.

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:

Ok, info dump. You need to know this bit before you get back on. Here is Kaschan's breakdown. I trust him, pretty much.

Kaschan, on 10 July 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

So let's see, this is a chart of the ebb and flow of cult. I think the first day, only townies died. Day 2 one of the three who died was scum (wasn't me, probably wasn't Mr. Ectoplasm who just arrived on the scene, therefore it was our current Fener who was the cultist). Day 3, two scum had to be killed. That means 2 of the 3 added to SH are scum. And I'm not sure who...

The START: 2 cult (?)

The Not-So-Master Male Assassin, Mekin Zikulka aka Fener and FM [DEAD]
Poor Theftian Girl, Amee Najayin aka Eloth [DEAD]
Streaky haired Mage of Life and Death, Luvaya Fiodethel aka Kalse [DEAD]
Espers released, Cult can now begin recruiting

End of Day ONE: 2 cult
Night time: + 1 cult = 3 cult

Fenn Female, ____ aka Serc [DEAD] ===> now Fener
Scholar, Iddil Miratus aka Kaschan [DEAD]
Ectoplasmic Lich, Etyno aka Silanah/Thyrillan [DEAD]

-1 cult

End of Day TWO: 2 cult
Night time: + 1 cult = 3 cult

Scarred Capustanii Man, _____ aka Barghast [DEAD] ===> now Serc
Fistian Sexy Lady, Lily Garamonde aka Anomandaris [DEAD]
Heap of Rags with Deck and Tiles, Pang aka Osseric [DEAD]

- 2 cult

End of Day 3: 1 cult
Night time: +1 cult = 2 cult


UNKNOWN ===> now Barghast


Edit: Timing off on FM kills. Fixed

Kaschan, on 10 July 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

So let's see, this is a chart of the ebb and flow of cult. I think the first day, only townies died. Day 2 one of the three who died was scum (wasn't me, probably wasn't Mr. Ectoplasm who just arrived on the scene, therefore it was our current Fener who was the cultist). Day 3, two scum had to be killed. That means 2 of the 3 added to SH are scum. And I'm not sure who...

The START: 2 cult (?)

The Not-So-Master Male Assassin, Mekin Zikulka aka Fener and FM [DEAD]
Poor Theftian Girl, Amee Najayin aka Eloth [DEAD]
Streaky haired Mage of Life and Death, Luvaya Fiodethel aka Kalse [DEAD]
Espers released, Cult can now begin recruiting

End of Day ONE: 2 cult
Night time: + 1 cult = 3 cult

Fenn Female, ____ aka Serc [DEAD] ===> now Fener
Scholar, Iddil Miratus aka Kaschan [DEAD]
Ectoplasmic Lich, Etyno aka Silanah/Thyrillan [DEAD]

-1 cult

End of Day TWO: 2 cult
Night time: + 1 cult = 3 cult

Scarred Capustanii Man, _____ aka Barghast [DEAD] ===> now Serc
Fistian Sexy Lady, Lily Garamonde aka Anomandaris [DEAD]
Heap of Rags with Deck and Tiles, Pang aka Osseric [DEAD]

- 2 cult

End of Day 3: 1 cult
Night time: +1 cult = 2 cult


UNKNOWN ===> now Barghast


Edit: Timing off on FM kills. Fixed

Anomander is now claiming to be Eloth - which means Emur is either the FM or someone else now. It has to be between Liosan and Tellan for the last cultist.

Kaschan has also confirmed there is only one cultist alive. If we get him today, town wins.

So if you made your bond with Emur, I don't know if it will even work. If it doesn't work, it's because the person in that alt (originally Eloth) is gone and doesn't have that ability. If somehow it succeeded, string him along. But my guess is that the action was wasted.

Oh, and a current list of the dead:

Kalse
Fener
Kaschan
Thyrllan
Anomandaris
Osseric
Barghast

D, on 10 July 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

I was not able to get a connection with emur last night. Of the fm jumped him that is why. I can confirm that tellan was an adventurer as of last night and that liosan is some one who can take hostages. I did not find out which faction he was though. But with a role like that I am thinking not town. I will be on in a couple hours, on my phone right now.

I would trust osseric.

I think that a liosan lynch will take out the recruiter. I will be making a case on him today.

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

Ok, that is all good news.

We have confirmation down below that Anomander is now Eloth; Emurlahn is someone else entirely. Serc probably is Ruse, just like I said and he said, but there is other alt jumping happening besides the FM. So I think that it happens both when the FM jumps and when someone is resurrected from SH. I think the FM jumped into Emur and Serc was resurrected as Ruse. The FM jumped from SH so no one had to die - the "player" (originally Eloth) was just removed from Emur and put into an alt in SH (Anomander).

I'm throwing a vote on Lio to start people thinking and to shift focus away from Tellan.

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 10 July 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

So where is the player who was in Anomandaris alt? If that player is now in Emur then WTF then he can't be the FM. He wasn't the FM when he died. If someone else was brought back then fine, but where is the FM. Not that I am crazy worried about the FM, although I haven't revealed that I am talking to you because I don't want him to kill me off like he did with Kaschan. But if we get the cult recruiter then that will be a major step in the right direction.

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

Yeah don't reveal we have a connection. Everyone in SH knows I am the sole communication between SH and the game thread (unless someone else is down there that can do so but hasn't said so, which would mean they are scum - unlikely), but I have never given your name or description. It's probably obvious from deduction but I've never outright said I'm talking to YOU. Just someone.

Keep pressuring Ruse. The testing votes from SH is a good idea, like you already suggested to him. Right now we don't trust him and we have some Liosan votes coming. If necessary we can remove some to lay suspicion off you if the FM is targeting you; alternatively, we can jump on Liosan and lynch him before the FM can do any damage, or we can back off and let everyone talk and breathe. Trying to figure out the FM and alt jumping mechanics has been the hardest part in SH so there are only a few people I really trust (Kaschan is one, probably Thyr, probably Ano(now Eloth) ).

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

D, on 10 July 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

So where is the player who was in Anomandaris alt? If that player is now in Emur then WTF then he can't be the FM. He wasn't the FM when he died. If someone else was brought back then fine, but where is the FM. Not that I am crazy worried about the FM, although I haven't revealed that I am talking to you because I don't want him to kill me off like he did with Kaschan. But if we get the cult recruiter then that will be a major step in the right direction.

He's probably in Emur, that is my best guess. But I honestly don't know. The way the alt rotations have been happening, it's like every time the FM jumps, everyone shifts one alt to the left. So it's really, really hard to know who is talking at what time in SH for those killed by or who were the FM. They definitely went somewhere though, because the number of alts haven't changed. I think he could be the FM because if the FM was dead in SH, he would move into a new alt without killing anyone. That person would either shift down the line or get swapped. I can't think of any other scenarios.

D, on 10 July 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Osseric is trust able. What he will bring to the table I don't know. The problem that I have is that I trust most of the people in SH more then the people on the thread. I know that Tellan is an adventurer. Telas was a day ago. The Eloth move is very irritating. I was counting on having him available to help me...sigh..

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Yeah, no way to predict that, but I did push for it, so that's a bummer that it ended up getting wasted.

Osseric hasn't shown up and said anything yet, so that sucks because it would be really useful.

The other problem is that I think SH is filling up with cult members to some degree. So we have to be careful about letting voting blocks run away from SH and hammer someone, because there could actually be scum on the train.

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

Osseric's only comment so far was that Barg was the FM at the end of last night, which we already knew and had been said in SH, so he could just be faking that. Who knows. Gotta wait till he comes back for more info.

The votes are piling up. If Lio takes another vote either you or I should remove vote temporarily so that scum can't jump on and hammer too quickly. Even though we're pretty sure about it, I don't want any mistakes.

D, on 10 July 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

I don't have a problem with that. I don't want a quick lynch.

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

How certain are you of Osseric? He's being really cagey and not giving us any information after revealing that he definitely has some that is important.

D, on 10 July 2012 - 08:04 PM, said:

Well I know that when he died he wasn't a cult member. As for any information that he has..... It is my belief (not solid put pretty good) that "hypothetically" If we were playing a finder game he would be like a paranoid finder. I say trust as in he wasn't a cult when he died. He is obviously (from his posts) a newer player who might be having a hardish time.

On players who we can trust to give good information

myself
you
Kaschan
The person who was originally in the Anomandaris alt. Whether or not that person is currently in Emur or not remains to be seen.

Everyone else


I think that Osseric might be a little bit over his head for this type of game. Of course this is coming from someone who thanks to you and (my fucking awesome role) Is able to see a majority of the game.

D, on 10 July 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

Anything that you get from Osseric needs to be stacked against the information that we currently have and know.

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

Ok, Osseric has CI'd Thyr as town for right now, so you, me, Thyr, and Osseric are all CI. Kaschan, VPI if not CI. Anom, PI.

Osseric's exact words:

Osseric said:

Its reading, i get to choose 1 dead alt and will get his name and whether he is Baha or whatever

Osseric said:

as soon as they get alive, 1 night passes my find is useless. right now i'm sure Thyr is town(he was my first night target)
0

Do you mean we shouldn't trust this find based on his possibility of "insane finder" or what not? Can you clarify that?

Also, game thread is deader than hell. Wonder what's up with that.

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 10 July 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

Insane finder might be a bit harsh. I didn't understand his find ability. Just that he wasn't a regular finder.

But really he didn't give us anything that we didn't already know. So no big whoop. I think that it is a slow time right now. As soon as I leave to go home things should heat up a little. Liosan will get on and yell at us for voting for him with out giving him a case to defend against. I think that Ruse and Emur shut up because they don't want to vote for liosan but don't want it to look like they are defending him. Whom ever is the FM is trying to keep their mouth shut so that we don't lynch him.

I am going to be really interested in Kaschans numbers come tonight. I suspect that their will be 2 cults alive.

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

D, on 10 July 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

I was not able to get a connection with emur last night. Of the fm jumped him that is why. I can confirm that tellan was an adventurer as of last night and that liosan is some one who can take hostages. I did not find out which faction he was though. But with a role like that I am thinking not town. I will be on in a couple hours, on my phone right now.

I would trust osseric.

I think that a liosan lynch will take out the recruiter. I will be making a case on him today.

Ok, how does the above fit into Lio's post?

Liosan, on 10 July 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Every night I create an illusion of myself and project it onto another live player. That player then receives all activities directed towards me. I have been trying to act as an action attracter and then reflecting that upon those I find most likely scummy in hopes of maybe just stopping their action.

Night 1, Kalse's random lynched had me do nobody.
Night 2 Telas because he came on randomly strong at the end
Night 3, last night?: Tellan.

How did you get the info on Tellan and Lio? Was it through separate actions? We need to rethink this.

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 11:23 PM, said:

Ok, let me know as soon as you can, but I think we should still go for Lio. He must be lying out his ass. I'm going to put my vote back on him and I think the hammer is going to come down from SH.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 12:13 AM, said:

I don't fucking know if he is lying out of his ass as far as his abilities work. But I do know that he came up as an adventurer and as a hostage taker and not as an esper. WHICH means fuck if I know who is scum..................


ok so I am positive about the information that I get. The information that I got last night was that Tellan was an adventurer and that Liosan was a hostage taker. If Liosan had directed my redirect then he should have came up as what ever the fuck Tellan's role is. So he didn't redirect. Plus it is my understanding that my action occur before everyone elses.


Ok I am directing some shit onto Ruse and Emur and taking a look at shelly. Hopefully one of them target each other with some nasty shit.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

I am thinking about coming clean on the thread. But I don't think that I can be lynched unless It is with help from sh. If you think that I need to I will lay out or relationship and my information. Obviosly I know that this will make me a target so I would rather not do it. But fuck me I thought for sure thst lio was scum.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

Rashan came back as a banditmite. Fuck I wanted to go for him ages ago

D, on 11 July 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

I just build a epic case on Rashan. He is the only positive Bahamudite result that I have gotten all game. I also found out that Shelly is a healer. I didn't get his faction though. If I had to guess I would say that Telas has been recruited.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

I am going to harass the shit out of Rashan. I know that he is scum so it is going to be a pure pleasure to ream him.

Right now I don't trust anyone who has came back from SH. I am going to look at a couple of them tonight and try to get results.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

Rashan is so desperate to try to get out of my case on him. But everything he says is a total lie. Trying to say that Liosan tried to do a night action on him after Liosan was lynched. Fucking panicking.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Oh man Kalse get on so that I can talk to you buddy. I am remaining Rashan a new hole every time he opens up his mouth. I don't know where Emur got his information but Tellan came back as a Adventurer yesterday.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Hey I'm back.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

Finally. Sweet.

[Path-Shaper]

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Ok, your info on Lio and Tellan seemed to be right, from what we've discussed in SH. So the mechanics aren't breaking down, we just aren't understanding them yet. The "hostage" thing was his projection ability.

I'm voting Rashan and we're discussing down below. If he doesn't come up as scum...no one is going to trust you, and by extension me. So this needs to be right. I have not revealed who you are yet so we are still anonymous even though some people have suspicions.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

If Rashan doesn't come up as scum then I am not going to trust myself and will happily be lynched. Because then I won't have to bother with redirecting shit anymore.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

Hehe, sounds good.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

Hehe, sounds good.

I have no problem putting my neck on the line to lynch Rashan. I do not know if he is a recruit or not. But I do know that he came up as a B and not as a Adventurer. I also know that we haven't lynched any B's so far in the game. Thus I am willing to take what I can get.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

Think I should flash vote you to confirm your innocence like they want on thread? Or not bother?

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Doesn't seem like it would make much difference if I did it since we are already voting together. But what I could do is flash vote you then leave off Rashan till I can convince more people in SH to vote Rashan. Right now not many people are around and due to all the town deaths Osseric is suspicious of me.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

If you want to fine. I don't care, if players haven't figured out that I am talking to you then they are blind and stupid. It is so blatantly obvious that even rashan has figured it out. But yeah go ahead.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

If you want to fine. I don't care, if players haven't figured out that I am talking to you then they are blind and stupid. It is so blatantly obvious that even rashan has figured it out. But yeah go ahead.

Yeah I know, but I'm just wondering how far we should play into it. It's obvious down in SH too but no one has outright said the words, myself included.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

The town that is currently here is pretty pathetic. I really don't trust any of the players who have jumped back. I kind of trust Tellan. I did trust shelly but now that Eloth is in that alt. I don't.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

The town that is currently here is pretty pathetic. I really don't trust any of the players who have jumped back. I kind of trust Tellan. I did trust shelly but now that Eloth is in that alt. I don't.

Tellan is also the only other one I sort of trust.

Interesting post from Kasch awhile back:

Kaschan said:

Ok, so what I'm trying to figure out now is the added complexity of failed Cult recruitment. What if the reason my cult numbers haven't been increasing is that cult has been blocked each turn of the way? I mean, I've been assuming we've been killing cult because of the FM, but what about this: the FM is always dead when I get my cult find, so he could still be cult and move around without effecting my numbers.

That could explain why his latest 2 kills have come up scum, cause he is scum... just one I can't pick up on. And maybe that is why he is hiding out in SH now. He's getting a lot of info, why leave?


And that brings me to Anomander (aka Lily Garamonde, our seductress with no fear in her eyes, and with no hair color that she knew of.... yeah right sandy haired lady). The only time my cult count has dropped was inbetween lynch #2 and lynch #3. In that time period only two people died, Anomander and Osseric (and of course the FM). Of those two, at least 1 is scum, has to be for my scum count to drop. I think it was Anomander, and now with that lie, I'm more certain of it. And he was clearing Rashan...

So Rashan, he revealed, right? We said, yeah he's got to be inno. We discount him and give him even more leeway when Anom confirms the little boy's innocent with his alignment finder skill. Really?

We've been played.

Vote Rashan

And this means that we will need to watch the FM. Brujah, you want a chance to prove yourself? Kill Rashan before we do.

Edit: Highlighted in Bright Red. This has to be my most important post of the game. PLEASE COMMENT

I can't remember how much of that we agreed with or debunked but it was interesting and thought it might be helpful. He voted at night though, so I'm waiting for him to return and vote.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

The town that is currently here is pretty pathetic. I really don't trust any of the players who have jumped back. I kind of trust Tellan. I did trust shelly but now that Eloth is in that alt. I don't.

No shit. It's almost like there aren't any town at all. Kasch said after Lio's lynch that 1 cult member was alive. If it's Rashan, then I guess we're golden? Not sure otherwise.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Also, I worry if you reveal now, the FM may kill you (if he is a scum role) or even if he's town and just dumb. Do you have protection against that?

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Also, I worry if you reveal now, the FM may kill you (if he is a scum role) or even if he's town and just dumb. Do you have protection against that?

No I have no protection against NK's. But I have one of the new guys directed at the other new guy. I did the same thing last night to keep myself alive a little longer.

I am not going to reveal now. I have two votes if you and the SH turn against me then I will reveal and take my chances.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

The town that is currently here is pretty pathetic. I really don't trust any of the players who have jumped back. I kind of trust Tellan. I did trust shelly but now that Eloth is in that alt. I don't.

Tellan is also the only other one I sort of trust.

Interesting post from Kasch awhile back:

Kaschan said:

Ok, so what I'm trying to figure out now is the added complexity of failed Cult recruitment. What if the reason my cult numbers haven't been increasing is that cult has been blocked each turn of the way? I mean, I've been assuming we've been killing cult because of the FM, but what about this: the FM is always dead when I get my cult find, so he could still be cult and move around without effecting my numbers.

That could explain why his latest 2 kills have come up scum, cause he is scum... just one I can't pick up on. And maybe that is why he is hiding out in SH now. He's getting a lot of info, why leave?


And that brings me to Anomander (aka Lily Garamonde, our seductress with no fear in her eyes, and with no hair color that she knew of.... yeah right sandy haired lady). The only time my cult count has dropped was inbetween lynch #2 and lynch #3. In that time period only two people died, Anomander and Osseric (and of course the FM). Of those two, at least 1 is scum, has to be for my scum count to drop. I think it was Anomander, and now with that lie, I'm more certain of it. And he was clearing Rashan...

So Rashan, he revealed, right? We said, yeah he's got to be inno. We discount him and give him even more leeway when Anom confirms the little boy's innocent with his alignment finder skill. Really?

We've been played.

Vote Rashan

And this means that we will need to watch the FM. Brujah, you want a chance to prove yourself? Kill Rashan before we do.

Edit: Highlighted in Bright Red. This has to be my most important post of the game. PLEASE COMMENT

I can't remember how much of that we agreed with or debunked but it was interesting and thought it might be helpful. He voted at night though, so I'm waiting for him to return and vote.

It will be a while until Kaschan can get back on and vote he is at school right now. If I have alted him correctly (which I have) .

I don't agree that Ano was cult. He wasn't when he died. Whether someone else is in there I have no idea. The switching of alts makes it extremely difficult to get complete information. For instance I found out last night that Shelly was a healer. So does that mean that the person who is in ANo now is the healer or does that mean that Eloth is now a healer?

I do think that Kasch is correct when he says that we have been played. I think that the count dropped because the FM stayed in SH. Brujah is doing brilliant this game.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

If you think that Ruse isn't scum then feel free to do a quick switchero. I have already asked PS to send me to the spoilers if I die rather then to SH. I don't know if I can take more of this game then I have already given.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

No way, you have to come to SH, at least to validate what I've been telling everyone. At least do town and me that favor.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

If you think that Ruse isn't scum then feel free to do a quick switchero. I have already asked PS to send me to the spoilers if I die rather then to SH. I don't know if I can take more of this game then I have already given.

I have no read on Ruse but looks like no one else is going to ask me for info until I confirm this or not.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

No way, you have to come to SH, at least to validate what I've been telling everyone. At least do town and me that favor.

If PS sends me their I will. Ps won't tell me where I will be going. If I die and get to SH I will do so with a ton of notes and information. I will be able to validate all kinds of shit.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

If you think that Ruse isn't scum then feel free to do a quick switchero. I have already asked PS to send me to the spoilers if I die rather then to SH. I don't know if I can take more of this game then I have already given.

I have no read on Ruse but looks like no one else is going to ask me for info until I confirm this or not.

Go vote hopping then. Just don't let the SH put me to close to the hammer for very long.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

Ok. First, I have to ask about the healer - why would that role exist? We haven't seen any NKs this game. It's making people suspicious of my "source" because they think that is a dumb mechanic. Any more info on that front?

D, on 11 July 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

No. That was the role that Shelly had. He should be able to confirm it. That was all that I got was healer. I have no why to know why that role would exist I didn't get his PM. Just the role type.


I do not know why their would be a healer in the game. I also only get information at night. I can't force day actions.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

Feel free to vote for me and to have someone else do so that that Ruse feels that I am trust worthy. Who is Ruse suppose to be again.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

I thought Ruse was Serc from SH, but now he's saying he's Barghast.

I'll flash vote you and see if anyone else will as well.

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 11 July 2012 - 07:15 PM, said:

He just clarified that he was the original barghast and that he was in the Serc alt up in SH and that now he is in Ruse.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

I don't know that I trust Ruse since Barg CF'd as scum, we thought Serc was scum in SH (who knows who he really was at the time), and now he's Ruse. But regardless, I'll flash vote to move things along.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

Like I said I don't trust him or Emur, or the new Tennes who we haven't heard from.


I think that it is pretty likely that if the FM is scum he will hit me.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 08:25 PM, said:

I hope not. In SH the last conversation we had with him, he said he would hit Rashan if there were enough votes going that way. I don't know what that means - either he's scum and knows Rashan is town, or is neutral/town and is trying to help us.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

Also, SL has been replaced by someone else. Not sure yet if it happened at night or during today, but we've got Anomander in SH claiming to be SL.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

Well then lets get enough votes on Rashan. Either a lynch or having the FM kill him off. My only question is which one will make sure that he can't come back to the thread.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

I am taking off. If the guys in SH are up for it have them lynch Rashan. He is scum. Otherwise lynch me so that I don't have to worry holding this shit together.

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

No one is in SH atm. Dead thread is dead.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

This game is starting to wear me out. Laters.

D, on 11 July 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

Just vote for Rashan and end this thing already. Fucking wankers. Laters.

D, on 12 July 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

FYI I told drek that if I die she had better take me the fuck out of this game cause I will break it. So I won't go to sh. Sorry. But the town I have to work with are so stupid that even when I basically reveal that I am talking to you they can't get over fucking quotes. Jesus fucking Christ in his asshole. I can't fucking believe it. If they aren't all scum then I almost want scum to win so that those dum fucks lose. Fuck them. I know that tellan is town but fuck him.

Kalse, on 12 July 2012 - 05:11 AM, said:

D, on 12 July 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

FYI I told drek that if I die she had better take me the fuck out of this game cause I will break it. So I won't go to sh. Sorry. But the town I have to work with are so stupid that even when I basically reveal that I am talking to you they can't get over fucking quotes. Jesus fucking Christ in his asshole. I can't fucking believe it. If they aren't all scum then I almost want scum to win so that those dum fucks lose. Fuck them. I know that tellan is town but fuck him.

Dude, if that is really how you feel, just mass reveal on thread. Everything. Put the whole fucking game on thread and see what happens. Don't wait any longer, just reveal everything. If you aren't coming to SH then find a sack of balls and put your cards on the table. Don't leave town hanging out to dry - don't leave ME hanging after all the time I've spent defending you in SH. At least do me that much. I understand your frustration, I'm dealing with the same shit in SH, but just drop the bomb on thread man and let the shit hit the fan and chips fall where they may and every other stupid cliche I can think of. I'm so fucking serious. Just mass reveal dude. At least people will shut the fuck up in SH about stupid shit and it will actually start discussion on thread, whether you die or not, whatever.

Seriously. Please. Either play it out and come to SH or blow your wad. But do not go gently into that good night. Rage - RAGE - against the dying of the light, man.

Kalse, on 12 July 2012 - 05:29 AM, said:

If you die without revealing I will fucking haunt you forever, I swear. PLEASE FUCKING POST. Fuck everyone on thread, do it for me, at least. Come on man. Anything else is bullshit, and you know it.

Kalse, on 12 July 2012 - 05:51 AM, said:

Tennes just info dumped on thread. Unless something radical changes, I suggest you do the same and see what happens. It's possible that the information he laid out will be enough to get Rashan lynched but if it doesn't look that way then just let it out.

Kalse, on 12 July 2012 - 05:55 AM, said:

At the very least you can confirm Tennes's numbers because I gave you the entire post where Kaschan mapped out the first few game days.

D, on 12 July 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

It will have to wait until I get to work.

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 12 July 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

Kalse, on 12 July 2012 - 05:29 AM, said:

If you die without revealing I will fucking haunt you forever, I swear. PLEASE FUCKING POST. Fuck everyone on thread, do it for me, at least. Come on man. Anything else is bullshit, and you know it.

I dumped. Not all of it but enough. Of course now you might have a harder time in SH. I have no idea.

Path-Shaper, on 12 July 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Kalse, on 12 July 2012 - 05:11 AM, said:

D, on 12 July 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

FYI I told drek that if I die she had better take me the fuck out of this game cause I will break it. So I won't go to sh. Sorry. But the town I have to work with are so stupid that even when I basically reveal that I am talking to you they can't get over fucking quotes. Jesus fucking Christ in his asshole. I can't fucking believe it. If they aren't all scum then I almost want scum to win so that those dum fucks lose. Fuck them. I know that tellan is town but fuck him.

Dude, if that is really how you feel, just mass reveal on thread. Everything. Put the whole fucking game on thread and see what happens. Don't wait any longer, just reveal everything. If you aren't coming to SH then find a sack of balls and put your cards on the table. Don't leave town hanging out to dry - don't leave ME hanging after all the time I've spent defending you in SH. At least do me that much. I understand your frustration, I'm dealing with the same shit in SH, but just drop the bomb on thread man and let the shit hit the fan and chips fall where they may and every other stupid cliche I can think of. I'm so fucking serious. Just mass reveal dude. At least people will shut the fuck up in SH about stupid shit and it will actually start discussion on thread, whether you die or not, whatever.

Seriously. Please. Either play it out and come to SH or blow your wad. But do not go gently into that good night. Rage - RAGE - against the dying of the light, man.

Kalse, please don't encourage other players to break the game. If D'riss decides to be inhumane and break the game, then that is his choice and he'll suffer the blame and consequences, but let him be or not be such an asshat on his own.

D, on 12 July 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

Tell Brujah good fucking move.

Kalse, on 12 July 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

D, on 12 July 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

Tell Brujah good fucking move.

Already did. No joke, he manned up and made a bold and brilliant choice.

D, on 12 July 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

Fuck yeah he did. Hopefully my dump got people to believe you. I have been so stressed this game.

Kalse, on 12 July 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 July 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Kalse, on 12 July 2012 - 05:11 AM, said:

D, on 12 July 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

FYI I told drek that if I die she had better take me the fuck out of this game cause I will break it. So I won't go to sh. Sorry. But the town I have to work with are so stupid that even when I basically reveal that I am talking to you they can't get over fucking quotes. Jesus fucking Christ in his asshole. I can't fucking believe it. If they aren't all scum then I almost want scum to win so that those dum fucks lose. Fuck them. I know that tellan is town but fuck him.

Dude, if that is really how you feel, just mass reveal on thread. Everything. Put the whole fucking game on thread and see what happens. Don't wait any longer, just reveal everything. If you aren't coming to SH then find a sack of balls and put your cards on the table. Don't leave town hanging out to dry - don't leave ME hanging after all the time I've spent defending you in SH. At least do me that much. I understand your frustration, I'm dealing with the same shit in SH, but just drop the bomb on thread man and let the shit hit the fan and chips fall where they may and every other stupid cliche I can think of. I'm so fucking serious. Just mass reveal dude. At least people will shut the fuck up in SH about stupid shit and it will actually start discussion on thread, whether you die or not, whatever.

Seriously. Please. Either play it out and come to SH or blow your wad. But do not go gently into that good night. Rage - RAGE - against the dying of the light, man.

Kalse, please don't encourage other players to break the game. If D'riss decides to be inhumane and break the game, then that is his choice and he'll suffer the blame and consequences, but let him be or not be such an asshat on his own.

P-S, I didn't realize that a reveal would be "breaking the game", so I honestly was not encouraging that. I wanted D'riss either to keep playing as he had been and come to SH normally and reveal like we all have been, or reveal everything he knows before he /gquits because that would be the end of town, as far as I could tell. I thought "breaking the game" was something D'riss was intentionally saying he was going to do if he came to SH, and I was encouraging him NOT to do that.

No game breaky.

D, on 12 July 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

I have talked to PS. I won't break her game for now.

D, on 12 July 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

Kalse... Fucking crazy shit going on. The only thing I am worried about is if Rash isn't the cult recruiter. I don't know who it could be.