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SPOILERS for Mafia 89 - Espers Are you sure it's gone...? Are you?!

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 06:37 PM

D, on 06 July 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

Thanks. I know so much about everyone who died. Once I got going I just realized that if I say that I got the info from my primary ability which is pretty awesome then I should be good.

I assume that being a esper makes me proof against becoming a cult recruit. Is that correct.


Can't say :wallbash:


That is horse shit Drek. I shouldn't be able to be recruited. I am inhabited by a good A'WTF name who is trying to stop the bad A'WTF name. Killed sure but cult recruited my esper should protect me from that. Otherwise I will have a ton of fucking information for the other side. Sure if I die and then get recruited I will have a lot of info but I probably won't be living again for at least a couple of days so by then my info will all be old news.


I didn't say your could or couldn't, I said can't say. You'll just have to trust me that I wouldn't make the game unreasonable.

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 12:18 AM

Rashan needs to get his act together, particularly on the recruiting front. Sympage may save him now (and was certainly the right play imo), but it has the potential to screw him up later.

Also, really sucks about Brujah. Modkilling can fuck games up (and seems to have worse repercussions the more complex the game is), but personally I would've - PM'ing other members for info is well over the line.

Definite kudos and post game rep for Kalse (ansible I think?) after game for being absolutely spot on dealing with it.

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:17 PM

I love reading the scene/character speculation. Both threads are doing it, and not surprisingly the Spectre thread's one is a bit closer to the mark since they have more info. Still, I wish MTS was playing just to see him come online and completely blast through it all, noting the little things like how a woman from Fist wouldn't use the curse "Dryjhna's teats" but a darker-skinned woman from 7C would... :wallbash:
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Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:30 PM

Also, since a few people seemed keen to figure out the cards in the Deck-reading scene, here's what they were (only the 10 players who were alive at the time got read, despite Pang's ability being the opposite - sue me):

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(see post 751)

In a secluded chamber, a few adventurers are gathered. On one side of the room, the Jheck barbarian (Ut'gau) is tending a fire. He and the two others (Lilly and Mekin-in-Stook's-body) beside him are watching what looks like a large pile of rags (Pang).
From the mishapen bundle, a gnarled, covered hand appears and lays down three cards (these three are just for context/framing and not really specific meaning - Orb 'cause there was an Orb, Apocalyptic because people are dying and it sounds ominous, Obelisk inverted because it sounds good). Orb, upright, is laid side-by-side Obelisk, inverted. Sideways, bridging the two, The Apocalyptic.

The hand withdraws into the rags, and the three others watching wait impatiently. After a minute, the hand returns with nine more cards, which it flings down haphazardly. The cards bounce and fall in a scatter around the center three, but all land face-up: Priest (Pazali) and Weaver (Namka) of Life . Herald of Death (Zahska). Builder (Pang) and Maiden (Amee) of Light. Soldier of Dark (Ut'gau). Consort (Sabira), Cripple (Julok) and Fool (Mekin) in Chains. Hunter and Mercenary (this was originally a bigger reading and I forgot to take these two out). On each card, a single figure is depicted, most of them human-looking. As the trio lean forward to look closer, the rag bundle's hand re-emerges and casts down three small stone cards, which each land upon one of the outer cards (the Apostl'eyds, landing on their Espers).
"What's this? These aren't Cards!" says one of the onlookers. The bundle of rags does not reply, as usual. But the Jheck, who himself rarely speaks, answers.

"Blocks? Slates?" he asks, looking at his companion as he tries to find the right word. "How do you say... Tiles." Realization dawns. He leans over the field and points out each one. "The Frozen Hold. (because the Apostl'eyds are Jaghut creations) Here, Bearer. (Kirin) This, Walker. (Maduin) And this..." He looks up at his companions while making a series of warding gestures.
"Shaper." (Bahamut)

"Is that bad?"

"Bad."

The group is silent for a few moments, until the green-eyed Fistian woman (Lilly) asks "There were nine cards, but there are ten of us still alive, aren't there? Shouldn't there be one more?"
A hand emerges again from the rag-wrapped creature and places a card directly into her hands. Virgin of Death. (Lilly) Here green eyes widen as a knife tip bursts out of her chest. Behind her, the scarred and battered Capustanii man laughs. And he continues laughing, until the Jheck barbarian leaps to his feet and slices off the man's head with an obsidian sword.


Anomandaris is dead. She was Lilly Garamonde.
Barghast (Brujah) the Bahamudite is dead. He was Mekin Zikulka, the Eager Ninja and not an Esper.


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 05:10 PM

Telas, on 07 July 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

Somehow I think I'm an unlikely target for the FM, unless he has the time and dedication to post during my timezone.



Tellan, on 06 July 2012 - 11:21 PM, said:

I want another no Lynch!
I hate going on gut... but

Use Mischief on Sheltatha Lore. if Dead, on Emurlahn.


Noted.


Emurlahn, on 06 July 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

Hiya D'rek:

new order:

D'riss, Liosan, Rashan, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tellan, Osseric.


God help me if I ever get to Osseric. I assume he's EmperorMagus, and he is severely working on my nerves to the point where I seriously consider omgus voting him and have burned through all my sympathy for a first timer dropped into a high tmdi game, no matter how much I try and tell myself that there's a language barrier (he's Iranian), he's new, perhaps unsure about even basic mechanics, and feels perhaps overwhelmed.


Noted.


Emurlahn, on 06 July 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

Also, if I die, please, please, please, if there is even the remotest possibility that it won't break your game:

just spoiler me instead of spectoring me (not that there's any chance of coming back to the game thread).
I put a shitload of effort into getting SH going and making us useful there, and I feel we succeeded there brilliantly because I was secluded with a small group of likeminded players.

Now I'm pulling the cart here on the game thread and no-one seems interested, willing to speculate, or putting their neck on the line. I may be making mistakes, too (clueless about who is scum, which I usually am anyhow), but this is really draining me of energy and I don't want to make that effort again.


I can't really do that, you'll just have to play the game as it is. You could do something atrocious to mod-kill yourself, but that would be really mean, so don't do that!

I think the weekend break will help to give everyone a breather and Monday will be a lot better, hang in there!


Kalse, on 06 July 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Reverse Provisional:

If D'riss is not on my Divinity list, use Ectomancy on him, otherwise use Ectomancy on Emurlahn


Noted.

D, on 06 July 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

FYI I don't go online usually during the weekend. So please please please freeze the fucking game. I enjoy my role and would rather not get randomly lynched by wankers cause I didn't post.

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 05:12 PM

Anomandaris, on 06 July 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

I hope Rash doesn't resurrect me. I like the position I'm in right now. I have the next three lynches pretty much set up.



Barghast, on 06 July 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

Tired of my my ONe yet. Sorry, I'm dead and bored atm.

I wanted a new list in case SL is not scum.

Virgin of Death - Anomandaris
Cripple/fool in chains - me
Herald of Death - rashan
Soldierof dark- Liosan
Consort - Driss

Unsure if I should split Priest and Weaver, could be both town Apos.
Unsure if I should split builder and maiden, but did seemed two genders.
Priest and Weaver of Life - SL Weaver would of been Thyrllan if not same.
Builder of Light - Osseric
Maiden of light - Tellan
Hunter/merc - some combination of Emur and Telas.

Others not in cards: Kalse - Mage of Life and Death.
Kascan -Scholar.

Sorry! I'm probably way off on both.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 12:17 PM

Anomandaris, on 09 July 2012 - 10:34 AM, said:

I hope that Rashan realised that the only way that we can gain numbers is to put a recruit into the next person coming back to live, everything else will be noted in SH asap. Not that he can do that right now without any recruits.


I hope he realizes that, too, but if he doesn't you'll just have to muddy up SH so they don't figure it out!
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 07:45 PM

D, on 09 July 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

Thanks. I know so much about everyone who died. Once I got going I just realized that if I say that I got the info from my primary ability which is pretty awesome then I should be good.

I assume that being a esper makes me proof against becoming a cult recruit. Is that correct.


Can't say :wallbash:


That is horse shit Drek. I shouldn't be able to be recruited. I am inhabited by a good A'WTF name who is trying to stop the bad A'WTF name. Killed sure but cult recruited my esper should protect me from that. Otherwise I will have a ton of fucking information for the other side. Sure if I die and then get recruited I will have a lot of info but I probably won't be living again for at least a couple of days so by then my info will all be old news.


I didn't say your could or couldn't, I said can't say. You'll just have to trust me that I wouldn't make the game unreasonable.


I guess I could be the neutral A'wtf. If that was the case then man if I get recruited town is BIG time fucked.... I would know powers and roles....

More likely I think that I am the good A'wtf and that the esper with the vote removal power is the neutral power. That would be a insanely powerful tool which could be used by either side.


You've got the "good" Apostl'ey, obviously - as an Adventurer, there's no real way for your abilities to be used "wrongly" short of blatantly disreagarding them, since they are all nice info abilities. Getting the CF helps to counter the benefit scum gets from not having faction given in most CFs.

D, on 09 July 2012 - 07:38 PM, said:

Changes:

Actions:

Direct Emur's power against myself

If Emur is lynched then direct Liosans power against Rashan


Investigate Osseric for Faction
If lynched Investigate Tellan

Observe Liosan for role type
If lynched observe Telas


List

Telas, Emurlahn, Shely, Osseric, Tellan, Liosan, Rashan


That should cover my bases ( lynched applies for day kills as well for the purposes of my backups)


Noted.




Anomandaris, on 09 July 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

 Rashan, on 09 July 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

The same people for the same reasons i mentioned earlier, especially Osseric. Still find his behaviour to be suspicious.



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Good thing they can't lynch anymore without us dead people.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:12 PM

Tellan, on 09 July 2012 - 08:04 PM, said:

I find it so funny that for almost the entire game, people have said "Tellan is so scummy" and "I'm willing to vote for tellan" and yet I've never gotten more than 2 votes in a day. I'm willing to bet that at least 2 of the poeple who voted me are cultists. And I know that some of those who did were at one point. Barghast for example



D, on 09 July 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

Ignore all of that WIFOM about Osseric. :wallbash:

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:02 PM

Osseric, on 09 July 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

can i place my NA on whoever gets lynched? if so i do.

and if i get lynched ,i don't think the dead can read.
If they can i read barghast.


Noted.


Sheltatha Lore, on 09 July 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

Night Action provisional

Heal Driss

If Driss is lynched, heal Tellan


Noted

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 01:02 AM

Telas, on 09 July 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

Provisionals

Stalk Sheltatha Lore

Revivify Kaschan


Noted


Rashan, on 09 July 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

Use Puppy Eyes


Swap Emurlahn for Anomandaris.


Scum can win this, i know it. Town just needs to lynch two Townies in a row.


Noted.

Barghast, on 09 July 2012 - 11:16 PM, said:

My character is based off Shadow I'm guessing.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 01:52 AM

Liosan, on 10 July 2012 - 01:22 AM, said:

Doppleganger Tellan, unless lynched, then: Telas, Rashan, SL in that order please.



Noted.

Tellan, on 10 July 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

I think i just made a huge mistake hammering osseric...


I'm surprised you would, considering there was 20-30 minutes left and you had Mischief targeted for someone else - might've had a no-lynch and you would've gotten to use your ability again :p

Tellan, on 10 July 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:

I wanted to save myself, as I hit the send button I rethought it and facepalmed. I was just afraid of a rapid vote switch.



Kaschan, on 10 July 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 July 2012 - 02:43 AM, said:

Deduction

There is only one living Bahamudite.



yessssssssssssssss!!!!!!



Kaschan, on 10 July 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

Thank you, M'lady

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:02 AM

Telas, on 10 July 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

Revivify Serc



I just realized that if I bring back confirmed cult members, they cannot be recruited again. If I leave non-cult in the specter thread, they can still vote and (I hope) cannot be recruited.

This could be a really great, or really horrible plan, depending on the game mechanics.

Confirm Stalking of Sheltatha Lore


Okay, noted.

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Not sure what he's got in mind there, but the WIFOM from Serc actually being town is going to be awesome to watch :p
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:51 AM

Alright, night 3 is resolved.

Alt changes were a Lilly/Amee swap -> Amee/Tapper is now dead in Ano and Lilly/Lizra is now alive in Emur (a bad move for Rashan, he should really have gone for getting a new recruit, not reviving his symp)

And Serc/HiddenOne/Stook is now alive in Ruse.

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Grief/Silencer, please change the SH password at your next convenience and send the new password to:

Kalse
Fener
Kaschan
Thyrllan
Anomandaris
Osseric
Barghast
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:09 AM

Telas, on 10 July 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

Provisional

Stalk Liosan


Noted

Thyrllan, on 10 July 2012 - 04:05 AM, said:

BOO LIOSAN


Okay.

(And you posted in the wrong thread. I deleted the post.)
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:31 AM

I'm off to bed, cover if you can, thanks!
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 01:47 PM

Tellan, on 10 July 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

Provisionally use Mischief on Telas, if dead, Sheltatha Lore


Noted
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:35 PM

Emurlahn, on 10 July 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

Dammit. I told Rashan not to resurrect me! Posted Image


Emurlahn, on 10 July 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

I guess the next person to come back is Osseric.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 05:17 PM

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

I haven't had much time to post but:

If D'riss is scum, I've lost the game for town. If he's the main town role, which I am hoping he is, then we are on the path to victory. Either I got really lucky or really unlucky with my choice for lover from down here.



D, on 10 July 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

Actions

List:

Tellan, Telas, Shelly, Rashan, Emur, Ruse, Liosan

Observation : Shelly
Unless Liosan is not lynched then Liosan

Investigation Role type : Rashan


Noted


Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

Provisional:

If D'riss is not on my Divinity list, use Ectomancy on him, otherwise use Ectomancy on Tellan


Noted - renew with D'riss, or else Ectomance Tellan

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Also if Kaschan is lying to us we are totally fucked. If was recruited before he died and is lying about cult numbers, we are so fucked.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 05:23 PM

Dumping the Julok-Lilly / Rashan-Ano lover convo, which started after night 1 and ended when Lilly died on day 3:

Path-Shaper, on 04 July 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

At the end of the day, she tried following him/her to wherever he slept, but Lilly lost sight of him in the halls almost immediately. Had he stepped into a side room? Was there a hidden hallway or door? She looked around but found nothing, so she gave up and went to sleep to avoid seeming suspicious. In the morning, walking down the hall with the others, suddenly He was among them again. As the group passed a side chamber, Lilly faked a stumble and grabbed hold of the Esper's shoulder to right herself. The others asked if she was okay, and - not letting go of the Esper's shoulder - she replied it was just a rock in her boot and to go on ahead.

* * *

As the others continued down the hall, Jokul, annoyed, remained to support the light-haired woman while she fixed her shoe - the woman had kept a strong grip on his shoulder and to throw her off would be suspiciously rude. With her other hand, the woman began unbuckling her boot so infuriatingly slowly that thoughts of murder and worse arose in his mind. As the other adventurers disappeared around the far corner into the altar room, the woman - nowhere near ready to remove her boot - brought her foot back down and stared intensely straight into Jokul's eyes. "I know what you are," she whispered.






Julok Jokul, Esper of Bahamut, you can now communicate off-thread with Lilly Garamonde, the Symp, in this PM thread. All restrictions on sharing information, revealing, etc, including Bahamut's "Secrecy" restrictions do not apply to this conversation (but still do not quote PS).



Rashan, on 04 July 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

It's me, B!



Rashan, on 04 July 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Guess who has an unfortunate position of power again?! The answer is me.



Anomandaris, on 04 July 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

Guess who is in the unfortunate position of symping you while not having a lot of time? The answer is me.



Rashan, on 04 July 2012 - 03:16 PM, said:

You're officially my second in command now. There are no benefits to being my second in command. I'm slowly bringing a zombie army together. I'm swapping Serc and Fener's place, giving Fener control of the Serc alt and killing Serc. Fener was an assassin, so he probably has a kill ability, plus Serc is a high poster that contributes a lot. Seems like a smart plan, yes?



Anomandaris, on 04 July 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

Rashan, on 04 July 2012 - 03:16 PM, said:

You're officially my second in command now. There are no benefits to being my second in command. I'm slowly bringing a zombie army together. I'm swapping Serc and Fener's place, giving Fener control of the Serc alt and killing Serc. Fener was an assassin, so he probably has a kill ability, plus Serc is a high poster that contributes a lot. Seems like a smart plan, yes?




Waah? That seems like a cool ability. Do the players you swap out keep their abilities?



Rashan, on 04 July 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

Oh, and to clarify, i have an ability called Zombify which gives me the ability to swap people's alts while keeping their personal powers. So, say, i chose Fener, who is dead, and Serc, who is alive, then Serc gets the dead Fener alt and Fener gets the Serc alt while both keep their abilities. Also, Fener becomes my slave.



Rashan, on 04 July 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

And the fact that Fener's death post said he was an assassin leads me to believe he has a kill ability. Therefore, by swapping him out with Serc, i have a credible minion with a knife set.



Anomandaris, on 04 July 2012 - 03:24 PM, said:

Rashan, on 04 July 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

Oh, and to clarify, i have an ability called Zombify which gives me the ability to swap people's alts while keeping their personal powers. So, say, i chose Fener, who is dead, and Serc, who is alive, then Serc gets the dead Fener alt and Fener gets the Serc alt while both keep their abilities. Also, Fener becomes my slave.


That is awesome. Is that how you recruit?



Anomandaris, on 04 July 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

Rashan, on 04 July 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

And the fact that Fener's death post said he was an assassin leads me to believe he has a kill ability. Therefore, by swapping him out with Serc, i have a credible minion with a knife set.


Let's hope it was nothing with a one time use.

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