[Grief]

I've changed SH password to diamonds and PM'd Fener, Eloth and Kalse.

Sorry for being a little inactive, will hopefully pick up after tomorrow.

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Grief, on 04 July 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

I've changed SH password to diamonds and PM'd Fener, Eloth and Kalse.

Sorry for being a little inactive, will hopefully pick up after tomorrow.

Awesome, thanks and sounds good!

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 04 July 2012 - 07:59 PM, said:

So, I take it I didn't doppelganger someone last night? 'Cause Kalse got lynched and all?

Provisional: Doppelganger Sheltatha Lore

That's right. That's why you should put backups in your provisionals.

Action noted.

[Path-Shaper]

Kalse, on 04 July 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 July 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Kalse, on 04 July 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 July 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

Divinity

Fener
Eloth
Kalse

Can you confirm Silanah is no longer on this list? I've not read anything else besides this PM, so this may be a stupid question.

Yup, I confirm Silanah is no longer on this list. And definitely go read the rest of your PMs - thinks got... interesting for you.

Do you mean I should have others besides this one and the SH password PM?

Thoughts right now - Rashan voting for Kaschan makes him the cultist that Silanah recruited, and I think we can communicate this through voting in Spectre.

Provisional:

Use Ectomancy on Kaschan, if he's lynched or dies at night, use it on Serc

Can include possibilities for players that are killed at night if I target them, or is my ability just wasted for the day if that happens?

re: other PMs - I meant the "you died" message in this PM thread, didn't think you'd been on since.

Yes, you can include provisionals that are not possible right now but might be later. But the provisional(s) must always be a line of reasoning that you would be able to make if you were here during the night, as per usual provisional rules. ie: it can't be like "If I can bond with this person, do so, otherwise ____", but it can be "If ____ is not on my Divinity list, bond with them, otherwise _____."

Action Noted.

Kalse, on 04 July 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

Also I think the lynching is not random, but is based on whoever starts the train on a player when the lynch doesn't occur. Probably resolves to the longest lynch train. I started the train on Kaschan, he didn't die, therefore I died instead.

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Telas, on 04 July 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

Stop using logic!

Besides, Osseric's street cred is low right now - but I guess I'll be off his back for the moment.

Provisional

Stalk D'riss

if lynched

Stalk Liosan

Noted

Telas, on 04 July 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

Prov

Reanime (Re-mangatize?)

Eloth

And Noted. (I decided in my game notes that "Revivify" would be the proper verb - it's what they use in Final Fantasy 6, though that may be just a terrible translation )

Thyrllan, on 04 July 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 July 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 04 July 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

aw, but I liked being dead....

You've gotten too used to dying day 1

Just think about how much shit you can disturb as the new alt on-thread!

true.

but now i'm lynchable.And I wanted to haunt Kaschan

Yeah, well, at least now you are contributing to your town VC. You do the numbers balance no good if you're dead.

Kalse, on 04 July 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

Ok, makes sense.

Revised provisional:

Use Ectomancy on Kaschan, if he's lynched, and Serc is not on my Divinity list, use Ectomancy on Serc instead; if both Kaschan and Serc are on my Divinity list, use Ectomancy on SL

This is all conditional on my Divinity list being updated instantly if someone dies during the night - if it is not updated until Dawn, then let me know and I'll revise the provisional again.

Also, can you confirm if my vote for Silanah in the Spectre Thread was a valid vote or not? Thanks D'rek. Insane and awesome game so far.

Your vote on Silanah was invalid -> You can only vote for alts listed in the "X Players still alive: _____, ____, ____, etc" part of the vote count.

All Night Actions occur "simultaneously" at the end of night, so your Divinity list updating, someone dying from a NA, and your Ectomancy all occur together.

[Path-Shaper]

Telas, on 04 July 2012 - 11:21 PM, said:

Re-D'rekulate?

De-Heavenize?

Re-Mafiamificate?

Revivify is probably best...

---

I'm not really sure what the heck Brujah is talking about here:

Serc, on 04 July 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

Holy shit balls I'm beyond clueless right now. First, I've never played cult. I usually get lynched for being cult even when I'm town. Second, I think that Eloth may have went into Tellan, but his typing style doesn't say so. I'm assuming that out of the first 14 characters that 12 of us had bodies, and Serc and one other, possibly Tellan, were ghosts. I. Think Tellan even slipped and said.something about being a ghost. Maybe I'm wrong, cuz I have no fucking idea what's going on. I saw Rashan defend Tellan somewhat so this also makes me think Tellan is the other cult.

But, Silanah as Thyrllan also came to Tellans defence. So we can't all be cult. I thought Thyr as the neutral Apos. So fuck me!

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Liosan, on 05 July 2012 - 01:01 AM, said:

How was I supposed to know that a random person would suddenly be lynched? You are just a she-devil!

Provisional: Sheltatha Lore, unless lynched, then in the following order: Rashan, Serc, Tellan.

If you lynch four people I will thumb my nose at you.

noted

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D, on 05 July 2012 - 02:17 AM, said:

Telas, Shelly, Serc, Rashan, Osseric, Barghast, Liosan, Anomandaris, Tellan, Thyrllan, Kaschan



Now I wish to direct Osserics Power against Serc.

I wish to investigate and learn faction for Telas

I wish to observe and learn role type for Serc

Noted.

D, on 05 July 2012 - 02:18 AM, said:

I might change the above...

Tellan, on 05 July 2012 - 02:51 AM, said:

Change: Use Mischief on Barghast

Alright, noted.

Thyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 July 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 04 July 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 July 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 04 July 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

aw, but I liked being dead....

You've gotten too used to dying day 1

Just think about how much shit you can disturb as the new alt on-thread!

true.

but now i'm lynchable.And I wanted to haunt Kaschan

Yeah, well, at least now you are contributing to your town VC. You do the numbers balance no good if you're dead.

oh, this is priceless. Now they are gonna vote me off because i'm different.

You'll have to convince them otherwise!

[Path-Shaper]

I'm going to bed. Grief, Silencer, post some vote counts while I'm gone if you can, please (don't forget to check the Spectre thread too!)

[Grief]

Only new action:

Kalse, on 05 July 2012 - 07:51 AM, said:

Ok.

Use Ectomancy on Kaschan if he is not on my Divinity list, if he is, use Ectomancy on SL

I'm considering using it on Serc now that I know Fener is now Serc and seeing if I can't use that information to leverage something out of him, but it may be a worthless play, so I'm struggling to figure out how best to get a lot of information out to a town player. Kaschan is a gamble too because he may get recruited. I doubt he'll die - the more the game goes on, the more I think cult have very few (if any) kills but only recruits, and the forced lynch is what reduces the town numbers rather than NKs. But he could be turned and that would be hard to discern and tricky to play out. Still thinking.

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Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Jesus Christ, D'rannisaurus reks.

You weren't kidding when you said this was going to be a high TMDI game. No wonder you only wanted Vets. This being my third game is nuts.

Half of them aren't even aware just how twisted your mind is and how even more complex.this game is. I mean I'm in Serc and I guess Serc is in Fener and Eloth is prolly in someone else and him in her.

And my brain is hurting.

I approve !!!

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

Fuck I know what you're gonna do. Maybe lol.

Since you said cult will be more knowledgeable I'm guessing that various ghosts of colt from sh will enter different living alts of cult. That would make the same living alt have the knowledge of combined people. They would have access to certain abilities, etc....sneaky if true!

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

I didn't get to talk to Silanah at all. I hope he's not cult.

Kalse, on 05 July 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

Reversing my provisional:

Use Ectomancy on Sheltatha Lore, if she is on my Divinity list, use the ability on Kaschan instead

Noted.

Kalse, on 05 July 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

Also, I'm assuming that in my lover bond I'm allowed to say pretty much anything that doesn't violate the quoting PMs rule? As in, I can pass information about who said what in the Spectre Thread?

Absolutely!

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

This whole Spectre Thread thing is hurting my thinkie meats! I'm excited to get more information on thread about how all of this works, I figure I'm going to play a figure out the mechanics game and vote based on that. It's safe, shouldn't bring too much attention my way (hopefully) and hopefully will be helpful for town!

Provisional night action:

Heal D'riss

if lynched, heal Telas

Noted.

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

a question: when you updated divinity was it name of All dead alts or should i add silanah to it?

It is only the current dead alts, and Silanah was correctly not on that list.

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Kalse, on 05 July 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

Awesome.

Dammit I want a lynch so the day ends and I begin my master plans of communicating with the living! Post, people, post! Vote, damn you!

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

This game rules.
I had fun trying to crack the mechanics of the Zombie game. I never figured out that new recruits had a DR of 2 in killing.power, but I did think that maybe the Hive added one to me, so I sort of was on to it.
But you have my mind spinning on this one. You're a devious, brilliant little fucker, Rek. I'm so sorry that I criticized you in Batman game. I wasn't aware how analytical you were and how outside the box your methods were.
And since I have no idea how to play scum, I'm going for the 'this guy posts to much to be scum' route.
GAH I'm having to play from my phone. It's a HUGE disadvantage.
Especially quoting people and going back through the thread.

D, on 05 July 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

Small change


Telas, Shelly, Serc, Rashan, Osseric, Barghast, Liosan, Anomandaris, Tellan, Thyrllan, Kaschan




Now I wish to direct Osserics Power against Serc.

I wish to investigate and learn faction for Telas

I wish to observe and learn role type for Kaschan

Alright.

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Thyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

terrible alt-guess:

Serc is Brujah (again)

i'm not sure what this tells me.

Kas sounds like ST--the same knowing tone that tends to irk me so much early game

[Path-Shaper]

Maybe I should tone down the random, unhelpful clues...?

Two or three of them have been totally fixated on this [[ Tellan = sandy haired woman = cult because she didn't look afraid while holding the barbarian ]] issue all day. Did they really think I would hint at who is cult in the scenes? This forum's mafia players are too smart for that - they'd dissect every clue and scum wouldn't have a chance!

For the record, yes, Tellan = Zahska = the sandy haired woman (she has a thing with sand getting everywhere), but the reason she's pretending to be afraid is so she can get close to Ut'gau and cause some mischief, ie: steal something of his and plant it in someone else's bag. She's always up to that sort of mischief, it's how she frames people and gets them lynched.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 05 July 2012 - 07:07 PM

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Barghast, on 05 July 2012 - 07:32 PM, said:

I'm thinking of using my power tonight - is it against the rules if I make a warning for town's sake, should I decide to do so?

Interesting idea. You can say whatever you like, so long as you don't quote directly from PMs.

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D, on 05 July 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

Small change


Telas, Shelly, Serc, Rashan, Osseric, Barghast, Liosan, Anomandaris, Tellan, Thyrllan, Kaschan




Now I wish to direct Osserics Power against Serc.

If Osseric is lynched then direct Rashan's Power against Serc.

I wish to investigate and learn faction for Telas

I wish to observe and learn role type for Kaschan

Noted

Barghast, on 05 July 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

I'm on the fence, don't want to hurt town, don't want to get hurt myself or get recruited (that rarely happens, apparently I'm not a tantalizing morsel for scum)

Engage Final Cracker

I suspect it will get ugly tonight

Noted

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

Shit. I.didn't see that! Was that there all along? I would have played it way different if so.

Yeah, it was (hence the bit in the first PM about "your role PM has been copied and may have been updated"

I did highlight it in red, after all... anyway you still have time!

[Path-Shaper]

Aaaand, there we go. Mekin kills off another one! Julok the Bahamut Esper should realize now it's a recurring ability and if he wants he can keep zombifying Mekin, effectively giving him a regular day kill, but at the expense of keeping any recruits - it's a possible but very risky way to win.

Kalse, on 05 July 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

Revised provisional:

Use Ectomancy on Sheltatha Lore, if she is on my Divinity list, use the ability on D'riss instead

Noted.

[Grief]

I reckon the ninja will most likely be stuck in SH for the rest of the game, excepting possible use in the endgame or the town messing up. There are only a couple of pros to it for the Bahamut Esper (fewer people to potentially give him away, doesn't risk hitting landmine roles that could exist etc) which are definitely outweighed by the cons (recruiting moves him towards a majority much faster, gives him people to help him/deflect (which may or may not help), gives him people to switch to, and he potentially gains useful roles and stops the town from having them).

I'd almost go as far to say that it was a bit of an unfortunate recruit, in that it doesn't help his VC as much as a living recruit, except the kill kind of makes up for this. Really just comes down to how Serc plays it. I think he'll be mistrusted, but if people mistrust him and still listen to him he can fake-symp and stir up a lot of confusion. It'll be very interesting to see how it works out for him. I think it'll be good for the game generally since more deaths and cross thread interaction gives them more chance of getting a decent grasp on the game, we'll see if it is particularly beneficial to either faction I suppose.

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Grief, on 05 July 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

I reckon the ninja will most likely be stuck in SH for the rest of the game, excepting possible use in the endgame or the town messing up. There are only a couple of pros to it for the Bahamut Esper (fewer people to potentially give him away, doesn't risk hitting landmine roles that could exist etc) which are definitely outweighed by the cons (recruiting moves him towards a majority much faster, gives him people to help him/deflect (which may or may not help), gives him people to switch to, and he potentially gains useful roles and stops the town from having them).

I'd almost go as far to say that it was a bit of an unfortunate recruit, in that it doesn't help his VC as much as a living recruit, except the kill kind of makes up for this. Really just comes down to how Serc plays it. I think he'll be mistrusted, but if people mistrust him and still listen to him he can fake-symp and stir up a lot of confusion. It'll be very interesting to see how it works out for him. I think it'll be good for the game generally since more deaths and cross thread interaction gives them more chance of getting a decent grasp on the game, we'll see if it is particularly beneficial to either faction I suppose.

Good points. Yeah, there are a lot of both pros and cons for each possibility. One thing that'll help cult, though the Esper(s) won't really know it, is that Mekin will now be a confirmed scum sitting in SH, so I bet the townies in SH won't be divulging so much information to each other with him right there watching.

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And yeah, I'm here and can resolve.