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#461 User is offline   Atrahal 

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:13 PM

I couldn't resist after my post, I am so amusing to myself:




EDIT: STOP! Hammer-time... hehe

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:17 PM

View PostKarosis, on 21 June 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 21 June 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

On another note, I actually agree with Karosis that the likes of Anomandaris (who I also pointed out a few posts ago) and D'riss should be looked at more. Damn I hate having to agree with people I'd like to lynch :headbang:


Wow, you were pretty quick to distance yourself from the two I suggested you might be symping.



I am very happy to distance myself from anyone you like, seeing as I'm not connected with anyone else.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:22 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 21 June 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 21 June 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

I apologize for dismissing your repeating cases that I've already answered to, though you're right, I didn't say anything about Eloth, but what do you want me to say? You've taken pretty much every one of my quotes out of context, and said that everytime I explained something, I was just doing some clumsy retconning. Eloth and I haven't had to chat cause we've never really found ourselves at opposite ends of a stick. Eloth has pretty much refuted what you've had to say about our supposed alliance. Your entire case rests on your assumption that I'm a clumsy killer, or MAYBE Eloth's symp, but if I were either, I have to be one of the worst scum that Mafia has ever seen. Anyway, I believe you're town, and I'm happy to see that you're at least making effort to make actual cases. I wish it hadn't been against me, but what can ya do.

Like I said, if you guys lynch me, and you find out that I'm town, look at Ampelas.



OH NO! MY SECRET HAS BEEN REVEALED! AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH :headbang:

You need to work on your apologies dude. You come across as extremely patronizing. And how can you know they were repeating when you didn't read them?

To summarize for Your Laziness, you have taken on a very forward leadership role in this game, pointing fingers all over the place, putting down votes that nudge voting clumps into lynch trains, and hammering happily, putting in necessary caveats (such as "I'll wait to hammer, oops, no one showed up in under an hour, hammer-time" and "God I hate this dick and his self-voting. KILL THE DICK").

You aren't clumsy at all. You are very forceful. And the reason I push the Eloth angle is that within the context of the signaling, it is interesting to watch you and Eloth avoid each other, play off town, putting forth suspicions and somehow staying out of each other's way despite all the questions directed at you two.

You play well, for scum.




For the record, I read every single one of your posts as you posted them. Heck, I had even replied to one of your posts before you even made it. Your whole case against me basically rests on Eloth jokingly calling me a symp on Day 1, on his very first post, before there was any sort of content whatsoever on thread besides hellos. Then you just point out how Eloth and I have never really talked to each other throughout the whole game. You're making giant leaps in logic, and based on next to nothing. I don't know what else I could possibly say to you. Eloth hasn't done anything to ring any big alarm bells as far as I'm concerned, and he never got in my way. I have never had any reason to directly communicate on thread, so we haven't. It's really that simple.

And the hammer accusation is a load of crap too - that you think I could pull the crap I pulled on Day 2 and still think I'm a good scum, I don't know, I just don't see it. I did not hammer Korv, he hammered himself. I was confused on the vote count, so was Anthras, in fact the only time I ever really talked to Eloth was when I was arguing with him when he noted that Korv hammered himself. And hey, I AM patronizing you. I think it's really unfortunate that you're putting so much energy into a lynch of a townie. You're gonna be real pissed at yourself when I CF town, and I can see that working against you tomorrow if you survive the night again.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:31 PM

Your responses say your smarter than me, your words say your actions are those of a confused, crap-pulling idiot, and yet you still do not quote my posts, and do not answer my accusations (why did you just drop Eloth off your scum list when comparing him and I on page six and then throwing in Amp for good measure, completely out of context I might add. You were talking about Meanas and your STD-esq D'riss itch in the previous post.

So when you don't respond, I assume that is because you don't read, or you don't think I have anything and you can get away with ignoring me.

You don't seem to have much of a sense of humor either. I guess that goes with being patronizing.

Edit: off not of, page six not day six

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#465 User is offline   Atrahal 

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:33 PM

Here's a new avatar for you 2 (I'm so avoiding studying at the moment)

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edit, damn thing didn't attach

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#466 User is offline   Karosis 

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:40 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 21 June 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

Your responses say your smarter than me, your words say your actions are those of a confused, crap-pulling idiot, and yet you still do not quote my posts, and do not answer my accusations (why did you just drop Eloth off your scum list when comparing him and I on page six and then throwing in Amp for good measure, completely out of context I might add. You were talking about Meanas and your STD-esq D'riss itch in the previous post.

So when you don't respond, I assume that is because you don't read, or you don't think I have anything and you can get away with ignoring me.

You don't seem to have much of a sense of humor either. I guess that goes with being patronizing.

Edit: off not of, page six not day six


Quoting your posts is not the only way to refute your accusations. I've given you a response to each of your accusations, and you just keep pulling new baseless accusations out whenever I do, and tell me I'm not answering your accusations.

Listen, I post what I am thinking at the time I post. If I said Eloth was pinging a radar once, it's cause he was once I posted that message. If I didn't follow up, it's because I found something more interesting to follow up on. When other people said they didn't trust Eloth for whatever reason, I thought there was something there, so I said I would look into it. I didn't find anything worth mentioning, so I moved on. Anyway, guess all we can do is wait and see what the ones who aren't around have to say.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:44 PM

Agreed. Picking your brain is marginally satisfying at best. But I'll give you rep post game if you switch avatars :headbang:

I'll try to look into your suspects when I have the chance, but as I said, I'm studying, and I need to get more done before I take on that next huge endeavor. And what you've said so far hasn't dissuaded me (everyone says their town and we'll regret lynching them).

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:10 PM

It is Day 3. 11 hours and 51 minutes remaining
10 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Eloth ( Anomandaris, Anthras )
3 Votes for Karosis ( Omtose, Ampelas, Atrahal )
2 Votes for Ampelas ( Karosis, Driss )

Players not voted: Eloth, Fener, Liosan

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 12:48 AM

Tis a quiet evening on Mafia! Hoping there will be some action before I go to bed, cause day is going to time out while I am sleeping. Would be nice to see where things are going before I go to bed.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 03:50 AM

6 hours or so left I think. Basically, any of those 3 that have votes now, I'd be willing to vote for and will switch if need be. Although I like my vote best where it is at the moment.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 03:57 AM

Well, I am gonna head to bed. Was really hoping for something to happen tonight, but oh well. I implore you not to lynch me, I can't really say more. I have made my case, it's all I can do. G'night and if I get lynched, good luck to rest of town!

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 06:01 AM

woo, I have internet access! I'll be following the game but won't have much time to post until after the weekend. and I'll get lynched irl if my friends catch me playing! I can vote to get a lynch, but not much more.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:00 AM

I think i made it abundantly clear I would like to vote off ameplas.

vote ampelas

But considering all the talk since yesterday, i agree any of those three are good candidates for a lynch. Looking at them though with order for who i think is most likely to be a killer :-

ampelas - possible killer, hasnt been symping anyone and isnt playing the game like a symp. Only bit of symp like behaviour was the sudden switch to voting with omtose after going after them earlier in the game. Playing like a killer, not associating with anybody, very low key and therefore very difficult to make a case against. If killer not sure who would be partner, hasnt been involved enough, coupled with his only comment post basically saying 7 people could be scum and ignoring omtose and fener. Not sure if that makes omtose or fener his partner or he was just laying down false trails. Interesting though his early pick for scum didnt come up in his grand strategy for the rest of the game

eloth - accused of symping a few people, korv we know came back inno though so that was wrong. Much more likely to be a killer instead, would need to reread to see if any connection to another player but the two killers are probably avoiding each other like the plague. Defo not partnered with ano, anthras or karosis. Possibly linked to atrahal, reading through i wasnt sure which way he was going to drop his vote until it looked like he was making karosis spout enough stuff that he was suitably lynch worthy. Had the early vote symp thing that was picked up on. still lot of info from their lynch, as they have been quite involved but not so much that info would be obfuscated by padding.

karosis - unlikely to be a killer given the vocal nature of his play, has basically symped half the remaining players at one time or another by either strangely worded votes or following onto trains. Seems kinda grasping with his defence, which is very verbose. Would be hard to decipher the wealth of info to find useful stuff regardless if they come back scum or town.

who would give us most useful info order :- eloth, karosis, ampelas

most likely scum but not necessarily killer :- karosis, ampelas, eloth.

i think i will go for most likely killer

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:03 AM

I will be away when day times out, so can change vote before hand, but would need to be in next hour as I am going to a funeral.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:54 AM

Unlike Karosis, I will not implore you not to lynch me.

If enough people think I've been playing like scum, so be it.


I will say that the argument that I'm suspicious because I've been hiding, not making waves, or not connecting with other people is utter bullshit considering I've ben accused since day 1, and especially considering this argument is being used at the same time as people ARE linking me with others, bringing up things I have posted, and continually keeping me in the spotlight. The two things completely contradict each other, and yet they are being used in tandem.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:55 AM

I think we're going to have a stalled lynch given the timing. I am not against an Amp lynch because if scum, that would clear my case subject karosis and the big question mark for me, d'riss. Thing is, I haven't really gotten a scum vibe from him, it's been more blase play than I think scum would muster. In order to give us at least a chance to lynch, I will switch.

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Vote Ampelas


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Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:58 AM

Cross post with Amp. Won't implore, eh?

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Sigh, I don't know what to do, I feel I should stick to my guns on Karosis, but I've played so badly as RI recently that I have very little faith in my ability to choose correctly.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:06 AM

View PostOmtose, on 22 June 2012 - 07:58 AM, said:

Cross post with Amp. Won't implore, eh?

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Sigh, I don't know what to do, I feel I should stick to my guns on Karosis, but I've played so badly as RI recently that I have very little faith in my ability to choose correctly.


I guess to some extent out it's going to come down to how much you want the lynch. I'm feeling much the same at the moment. are you prepared to vote on a case you're unconvinced by in order to get a lynch?

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:17 AM

View PostD, on 22 June 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 22 June 2012 - 07:58 AM, said:

Cross post with Amp. Won't implore, eh?

Remove vote

Sigh, I don't know what to do, I feel I should stick to my guns on Karosis, but I've played so badly as RI recently that I have very little faith in my ability to choose correctly.


I guess to some extent out it's going to come down to how much you want the lynch. I'm feeling much the same at the moment. are you prepared to vote on a case you're unconvinced by in order to get a lynch?


Yes. All three people with votes have information to offer potentially, just by who is on their trains alone to begin with. (although I still think Eloth is a symp, so I'm not convinced his CF will do anything for us).

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:19 AM

It is Day 3. 1 hour and 42 minutes remaining
10 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Eloth ( Anomandaris, Anthras )
3 Votes for Karosis ( Omtose, Ampelas, Atrahal )
3 Votes for Ampelas ( Karosis, Driss, Liosan )

Players not voted: Eloth, Fener

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