[Anomandaris]

So we are poised for a lynch. 4 hours to go until timeout.

Hath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 4 hours and 58 minutes remaining

2 Votes for Ampelas ( Fener, Liosan )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
4 Votes for Korvalain ( Atrahal, Omtose, Driss, Anthras )
3 Votes for Meanas ( Eloth, Karosis, Korbas )
3 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas )

I notice there was still an hour on the clock so someone hammered early. In that hour Korbas was around to speak and he could have defended himself somewhat, maybe the lynch would have still gone through but if people are around towards the end then they can at least hold off that final vote.

Hath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

After the swift and gruesome death in town Jose Blanco, ex police officer, goes around to see weather he can find something useful, alas the townspeople see him looking around and feel that maybe he is the murderer.

Korbas is dead. He was Retired Talon and finder(town)


It is Day 1. 1 hour and 13 minutes remaining

1 Vote for Ampelas ( Fener )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
4 Votes for Korvalain ( Omtose, Driss, Korbas, Anthras )
7 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas, Eloth, Atrahal, Liosan, Karosis )

It is now night

-Liz

The Korvalian train stalled and Korbas bites the dust.

Omtose and D'riss both stuck to their guns and didn't change.

So who caused the lynch to happen.


Eloth, Atrahal, Liosan, Karosis > switched votes to cause the lynch

I'll have a look at their posts and reasons to see if there is any significance to it all.

[Liosan]

Well to be fair, it was day 1 and we needed a lynch. No one wants to go without a lynch and there was pressure from everyone on who to go for. Others have already examined the train and poined out that it was the switch of atrahal and eloth that tipped it in favour of korbas. To be fair to both of them, I was always feeling more inclined to korbas than korvalain, while karosis switched twice, first to push korvalain ahead and then to hammer korbas.

[Korvalain]

OK, am awake and back for a bit. I'll do a reread since we've got a while, but I still feel like Fener's behavior at the end of the day and night was scummy.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 13 hours and 15 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Omtose

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ampelas ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Fener ( Korvalain )
2 Votes for Korvalain ( Omtose, Driss )
1 Vote for Omtose ( Eloth )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Fener, Karosis

[Anomandaris]

Liosan, on 20 June 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Well to be fair, it was day 1 and we needed a lynch. No one wants to go without a lynch and there was pressure from everyone on who to go for. Others have already examined the train and poined out that it was the switch of atrahal and eloth that tipped it in favour of korbas. To be fair to both of them, I was always feeling more inclined to korbas than korvalain, while karosis switched twice, first to push korvalain ahead and then to hammer korbas.

I see your point but I disagree somewhat I just had to go away a little while. I think YOU, Atrahal and Eloth made sure Korbas was put down. I'll have some time to go through it but Eloth certainly didn't want Korvalian lynched with his Omtose vote and then swap to Korbas. You could have split the votes but you went and put Korbas at L1 instead.

[Anomandaris]

Korbas, on 19 June 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:

I'm not going to come back guilty

RT this was your defense. People claiming town should be looked at because it shouldn't be needed. Anyway I just past this while having a look here.

Hath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 8 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ampelas ( Fener )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
5 Votes for Korvalain ( Omtose, Driss, Karosis, Korbas, Anthras )
6 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas, Eloth, Atrahal, Liosan )

-Liz

Liosan, If you voted Korvalian then it would have been 6 5 in favour of him would it not?

[Anomandaris]

Eloth's vote of Omtose seems wrong. There was no way at that time an Omtose lynch would go through. Why the vote at that time?

[Anomandaris]

Finally Atrahal's vote. I'm agreeable to his vote as he had his own case or reason for voting Korbas. Yet he did seal Korbas' fate in my opinion

Atrahal, on 19 June 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

I have to leave now unfotunately. I'll see if I can make it back before the lynch, but I'm thinking very unlikely...

Meanas did this earlier but the votes could have went either way yet Atrahal doing this now at this time made Korbas a certain lynch.

[Liosan]

Anomandaris, on 20 June 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Liosan, on 20 June 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Well to be fair, it was day 1 and we needed a lynch. No one wants to go without a lynch and there was pressure from everyone on who to go for. Others have already examined the train and poined out that it was the switch of atrahal and eloth that tipped it in favour of korbas. To be fair to both of them, I was always feeling more inclined to korbas than korvalain, while karosis switched twice, first to push korvalain ahead and then to hammer korbas.

I see your point but I disagree somewhat I just had to go away a little while. I think YOU, Atrahal and Eloth made sure Korbas was put down. I'll have some time to go through it but Eloth certainly didn't want Korvalian lynched with his Omtose vote and then swap to Korbas. You could have split the votes but you went and put Korbas at L1 instead.

Well i was about to leave, and i think I would rather be accused of putting korbas to L-1 than to have said i was going to vote and fucking off instead. No one could have known korbas was the finder so the idea that three of us (when there are two killers) coordinated to get korbas lynched is preposterous. I cant speak for eloth, but unlike korbas who used the 'i am town' defence not once but twice, korvalain answered the questions put to him and so for me was the less suspicious of the two.

[Fener]

I do wonder to what extent people claiming they're "not going to be back in time for a lynch, so vote X" prompts others to build cases on player X because they know there'll always be a vote on X? Seems like a really good strategy to redirect attention, to me.

I liked Ampelas's reply to my weak case against him, so now I don't think there's anything in it other than an honest mistake / slip of the fingers (oo-er missus). The independent case being built against him by (IIRC) Liosan and others is interesting, but I'm holding fire for now as I'll be here all day.

[Anomandaris]

Liosan, on 20 June 2012 - 12:25 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 20 June 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Liosan, on 20 June 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Well to be fair, it was day 1 and we needed a lynch. No one wants to go without a lynch and there was pressure from everyone on who to go for. Others have already examined the train and poined out that it was the switch of atrahal and eloth that tipped it in favour of korbas. To be fair to both of them, I was always feeling more inclined to korbas than korvalain, while karosis switched twice, first to push korvalain ahead and then to hammer korbas.

I see your point but I disagree somewhat I just had to go away a little while. I think YOU, Atrahal and Eloth made sure Korbas was put down. I'll have some time to go through it but Eloth certainly didn't want Korvalian lynched with his Omtose vote and then swap to Korbas. You could have split the votes but you went and put Korbas at L1 instead.

Well i was about to leave, and i think I would rather be accused of putting korbas to L-1 than to have said i was going to vote and fucking off instead. No one could have known korbas was the finder so the idea that three of us (when there are two killers) coordinated to get korbas lynched is preposterous. I cant speak for eloth, but unlike korbas who used the 'i am town' defence not once but twice, korvalain answered the questions put to him and so for me was the less suspicious of the two.

I could see two scum voting with each other though and then the symp coming on and following their lead.

[Anomandaris]

Fener, on 20 June 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

I do wonder to what extent people claiming they're "not going to be back in time for a lynch, so vote X" prompts others to build cases on player X because they know there'll always be a vote on X? Seems like a really good strategy to redirect attention, to me.

I liked Ampelas's reply to my weak case against him, so now I don't think there's anything in it other than an honest mistake / slip of the fingers (oo-er missus). The independent case being built against him by (IIRC) Liosan and others is interesting, but I'm holding fire for now as I'll be here all day.

When it gets to the point were we have 2 hours left and there are two lynch trains, someone voting and leaving means that their vote stays AND we are left with no other option. Whereas if someone votes AND is around then we can change if we decide the lynch target needs to be changed. So for example if Korbas came on and claimed finder, he may have drew a heal during the night but the only option would have been to vote Korv and even that may have been impossible with Meanas and Atrahal both being away considering Korv could have been scum and fellow scum wouldn't have wanted to vote him.

[Eloth]

Anomandaris, on 20 June 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Liosan, on 20 June 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Well to be fair, it was day 1 and we needed a lynch. No one wants to go without a lynch and there was pressure from everyone on who to go for. Others have already examined the train and poined out that it was the switch of atrahal and eloth that tipped it in favour of korbas. To be fair to both of them, I was always feeling more inclined to korbas than korvalain, while karosis switched twice, first to push korvalain ahead and then to hammer korbas.

I see your point but I disagree somewhat I just had to go away a little while. I think YOU, Atrahal and Eloth made sure Korbas was put down. I'll have some time to go through it but Eloth certainly didn't want Korvalian lynched with his Omtose vote and then swap to Korbas. You could have split the votes but you went and put Korbas at L1 instead.

Warning this is sarcasm....WARNING THE BELOW IS SARCASM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well done sir. You have caught me out. I did want Korbas to go down. I had completely figured out that he was the finder. I also conspired off line with Liosan and Atrahal. We thought about bringing Karosis into the conversation but held off because he isn't mentally stable. The reason you weren't included (which is why your so pissy now) is because you weren't around and have only now seen your in box. The reason that the three of us decided to conspire off line is because we have decided to sabotage all mafia games for ever more. Muhahahahaha. But now you have found us out.

We would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those kids and that darn dog.


END OF SARCASM. THE ABOVE WAS SARCASM


Now I am for analyzing trains but come on. Both Korbas and Korv were tied for a while. I thought that based on the korbas case and his style of play that he was scummier.

[Eloth]

Anomandaris, I understand what you are trying to do but you are missing several things. First off. Korv was in the lead with 4 hours to go.

Hath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 4 hours and 27 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ampelas ( Fener, Liosan )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
5 Votes for Korvalain ( Atrahal, Omtose, Driss, Anthras, Karosis )
1 Vote for Meanas ( Korbas )
4 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas, Eloth )

-Liz

Korv was still in the lead with 3 hours to go.

Hath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 58 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ampelas ( Fener, Liosan )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
5 Votes for Korvalain ( Atrahal, Omtose, Driss, Anthras, Karosis )
1 Vote for Meanas ( Korbas )
4 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas, Eloth )

-Liz

At any point during the last several hours Korbas could have said finder and the lynch would have flipped to Korv. Then Atrahal changes his mind. All of this is done only using the day one information until that point. Of course now I would say that Atrahal's well laid out reasons for switching could be a killer deciding to get off of the train that he started or it could be exactly what he is saying.

Atrahal, on 19 June 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

I was taking a second look, and I'm starting to think my vote needs better placement. Mainly I was looking to see if anyone would try to steer the vote away from Korv, trying to say "this is just a n00b mistake", or "it's only day 1 give the guy a break." I'm not seeing many necks stretched in support of Korv. I do, however, see some activitiy around Korbas

Omtose, on 19 June 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

I don't get a scum vibe from Korbas. Scum can be abrasive, but it tends to be a non-committal abrasive. Korbas actually threw his vote around. I could be wrong of course, but I think I'd need a little more to switch my vote at this juncture.

I would, however, be willing to vote Eloth. Karosis AKA Mac played a pretty low posting first couple of days in our last M&P, and that left me a little disinclined to ignore the lower posters.

Omtose seems to be gently redirecting. Not voting so as not to get the "WTF it's almost the end of the day" response. However, Omtose does put in enough of a threat in pointing out Mac's play in the last M&P to make the danger real enough to give pause. Realize, as well, Omtose's vote is sitting on Korv...

Liosan, on 19 June 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

I understand what your saying but from the outside that just looked like two people insulting each other.

Thats pushed us to 3 players with 3 votes, will be on for a while but out of the three I dont know which i find most suspicious, korbas has a feeling of scumminess and I like the case above, but meanas you have a few posts i didnt like and will quote the major one below, and korv ignored my question about his ampelas removal when faced with what i think wasnt a very good response. so would like to hear back from him about that.

Meanas, on 19 June 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

Ohio!

Yeah, so, I'm town.
...

...

No, seriously. I'm pretty sure Fener's just upset because I said he didn't exist and Karo is trying to mimic the alt's last owner with the whole "wanna get a lynch" thing (while somehow simultaneously sounding like some kind of n00b...that sort of logic is about as sound as the logic that got Fener lynched endlessly, LOL!) and...I don't even know who else joined my first-ten-hours lynch train.

(Oh yeah, and whoever thought it was odd that I disappeared/hadn't responded....did you miss the part where I said I was going to bed in my last post? )
....

Right, have I covered all the bases? Does it sound "defensive" and "worried" enough? XD

The rest of your game I felt was unlucky given some odd random voting but saying 'i am town' is like saying 'oh i bet i get night killed' or voting for night. It just rings false for everybody and people should know better. Strangely korbas also did that, and his felt equally sarcastic.

Korbas, on 18 June 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

Anthras, on 18 June 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

You were late so no entrance,Period.
and dude who says put pressure on the guy. I ask of you,Why shouldn't i vote you?see there is no answer worth the time it takes typing.At least until later.we have to just trust our luck.

Edit:Grammar

There's no good reason as far as you know that you shouldn't vote me. Im T-totally town though, its the truth.

An interesting connection pointed out here Liosan. I like what you are thinking. I would be curious why these two were so blatant in their statements of citizenship when there really wasn't much pressure on them at the time of declaration.

One more interesting note on Korb:

Korbas, on 19 June 2012 - 01:44 AM, said:

D, on 18 June 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

If I'm reading it right, Amp has two votes, Meanas has three, and Omtose, Korvalain and Ano have one each.

Sure Korbas, do what you like, but don't expect to not get called on it when it looks dodgy. I personally would have preferred a bit more discussion before putting someone halfway to a lynch, especially with 20 hours of day to go.

If wanting to obtain some information with a day one lynch looks dodgy, then sue me for dodginess. Putting someone halfway to a lynch isn't like I'm dropping the hammer or anything. I have a busy night tonight and possibly day tomorrow. I wanted to lay down a vote in case I didn't get a chance to come back, which obviously wasnt the case thus far. I dont expect not to get called out on it, but if I do then I'll give the same reasoning for this vote each time. We needz some infoz.

The comment about needing info caught my eye. He said this right after trying to defend and push his vote on Meanas. Kind of an odd statement when you are clinging to a "joke" vote.

Remove Vote
Vote Korbas

Korbas, on 19 June 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

Ok I'm awake and caught up. For everyone who wanted reasoning for my vote I will say it one last time. I voted becasue at the time there was no info, I didn't know if I would be able to be back before a lynch, and I didn't want to not vote for the day. That being said, there are some interesting cases abound now.

Remove Vote


The D'riss case(not much of a case really just a muck up) really stuck out to me because a few games ago I did the exact same thing, only I was a killer. I was in the mindset that I knew who was town and didn't care who got lynched, forgot who I was voting for, and removed my vote then put it back on the same person. In that game people jumped all up on my shit about it, but it was also not day 1 so there should have been actual reasoning behind the first vote when there really wasn't that much. I don't think D'riss is scum because of this since it's day 1, it just caught my eye while reading (nostalgia).

I wouldn't feel right voting for Eloth as a super-low poster, especially now that he's become a bit more active.

The case that I currently think has the most merit is the Korv case. He's totally playing it smooth, his defenses were, indeed, rather vague and didn't really address the issue. I'll put him at L-1 with a few hours left and see what goes down.

Vote Korvalain

Even with Atrahal's switch both Korv and Korbas are still tied. Their were several of us on who had said that we could switch. Korbas doesn't reveal. We have no reason to think about switching.

Hath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 23 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ampelas ( Fener, Liosan )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
5 Votes for Korvalain ( Atrahal, Omtose, Driss, Karosis, Korbas )
5 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas, Eloth, Anthras )

-Liz

Liosan votes. Now for the first time Korbas is actually head in the vote count. Still no reason for anyone to switch. Korbas isn't saying that he is a finder or offering up a solid defense other then he is town...sigh...

Hath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 8 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ampelas ( Fener )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
5 Votes for Korvalain ( Omtose, Driss, Karosis, Korbas, Anthras )
6 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas, Eloth, Atrahal, Liosan )

-Liz

Now Karosis Hammers with a little over a hour to go.

Karosis, on 19 June 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

Guess I shouldn't have offered to hammer - no one's gonna put a hammer vote down if they don't have to.

Well

remove vote
vote Korbas

Let's see how this goes then!

All of that on a train that YOU started on player who turned out to be a finder. Now what have we learned. Well the main thing to me is that you shouldn't be allowed to build cases as somehow you have a nose for lynching the finder. Really the only thing that we have learned is that Liosan put Korbas over Korv. But even then the vote was close enough that if Korbas had offered a reason not to lynch him it would have flipped over to korv. There really isn't anything more in the train then that.

[Eloth]

Anomandaris, on 20 June 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

Eloth's vote of Omtose seems wrong. There was no way at that time an Omtose lynch would go through. Why the vote at that time?

So your saying that there is a wrong time to build a case on someone. Why? Is Omtose your master? Are you trying to deflect my attention away from him. Well it won't work. I shall go right back after him now.

[D'riss]

Eloth, on 20 June 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 20 June 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Liosan, on 20 June 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Well to be fair, it was day 1 and we needed a lynch. No one wants to go without a lynch and there was pressure from everyone on who to go for. Others have already examined the train and poined out that it was the switch of atrahal and eloth that tipped it in favour of korbas. To be fair to both of them, I was always feeling more inclined to korbas than korvalain, while karosis switched twice, first to push korvalain ahead and then to hammer korbas.

I see your point but I disagree somewhat I just had to go away a little while. I think YOU, Atrahal and Eloth made sure Korbas was put down. I'll have some time to go through it but Eloth certainly didn't want Korvalian lynched with his Omtose vote and then swap to Korbas. You could have split the votes but you went and put Korbas at L1 instead.

Warning this is sarcasm....WARNING THE BELOW IS SARCASM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well done sir. You have caught me out. I did want Korbas to go down. I had completely figured out that he was the finder. I also conspired off line with Liosan and Atrahal. We thought about bringing Karosis into the conversation but held off because he isn't mentally stable. The reason you weren't included (which is why your so pissy now) is because you weren't around and have only now seen your in box. The reason that the three of us decided to conspire off line is because we have decided to sabotage all mafia games for ever more. Muhahahahaha. But now you have found us out.

We would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those kids and that darn dog.


END OF SARCASM. THE ABOVE WAS SARCASM


Now I am for analyzing trains but come on. Both Korbas and Korv were tied for a while. I thought that based on the korbas case and his style of play that he was scummier.

While I agree that the suggestion that the final three votes on Korbas were all scum is rather unbelievable, I think the sarcasm is a bit unnecessary. I don't think it is a stretch to suggest that you had ulterior motives for your vote on Korbas. It is certainly easy after the fact to say that you were going for the one who looked scummier, but at the end of the day scum is actively avoiding scummy behaviour, so to vote for the scummier player is rather going for the obvious route.

You also haven't really addressed the issue surrounding your vote on Omtose. Why did you initially vote for Omtose after saying that the Korbas lynch did't look like it was going anywhere?

[Eloth]

Atrahal, on 19 June 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

I really do think we were onto some things on day 1. I would point out that we did pick up on genuine aberrant game play, unfortunately the result of RT being a very nervous finder.

So thought experiment. What is the scum MO for day 1?

This is what I'm trying to work through at the moment. If you are paired scum, you have a partner who has your back and you know there is at least one other person, a faithful symp, who knows who you and your partner are and will either follow your lead or protect you by diverting attention. With this in mind, what level of confidence would we expect in scum at the start of the game, when everything is tentative and several RIs are prone to misbehaving for various reasons (such as getting a reaction like Khells or just having fun with things like dragonsecks)?

This is where the middle-posting theory comes in, which is just that, a theory. Scum don't want to stand out too much, and mafia players are prone to lynch someone who is too crazy out of sheer annoyance. So I wouldn't expect scum to stand out too much. And low posters are a wild card, but Day 2 often shows who remains a low poster and who was waiting for material to analyze (e.g. Amp).

So currently, my middling pool of suspects includes Eloth, D'riss, and Omtose.

Eloth is suspect in my books for his vote for Omtose and prompt retraction of said vote to go with the lynch train. That and his stated willingness to switch votes to get a lynch. Helpful, and also potentially indicative of knowing both suspects are RI, and either dead would do just fine for scum.

D'riss is playing a fine game, one which I feel resonance with. Challenging people's accusations, trying to think outside the box, and not accepting things at face value. The only problem here is that this is exactly how I would play as scum...

Omtose, one of my primary issues with him is his unquestioning acceptance of the case on Korv (doesn't care? knew he was inno anyways). To quote "That's as good as it gets on Day 1. Why not?" This and his defense of Korb (easy to defend someone when you know they are inno) send up red flags. He's not playing badly, it's that he is playing exactly how we'd expect a day 1 townie to play (unsure, helpful, and easily swayed by poor cases because it doesn't matter on day one anyways )

Vote Omtose

Hath-Daper, on 20 June 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 13 hours and 15 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Omtose

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ampelas ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Fener ( Korvalain )
2 Votes for Korvalain ( Omtose, Driss )
1 Vote for Omtose ( Eloth )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Fener, Karosis

PS you missed a vote.

[Anomandaris]

Good summary from you.

From the wording of your post we should keep a look on Liosan in case he pulls that sort of thing again, and Atrahal also looks a little suspect but nothing overtly scummy stands out.

Yet you clear yourself.

Why did you vote Omtose then change almost straight away?

[D'riss]

Eloth, on 20 June 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 20 June 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

Eloth's vote of Omtose seems wrong. There was no way at that time an Omtose lynch would go through. Why the vote at that time?

So your saying that there is a wrong time to build a case on someone. Why? Is Omtose your master? Are you trying to deflect my attention away from him. Well it won't work. I shall go right back after him now.

This is so, so weak. Deflection and OMGUS-ing, and a complete failure to address the question, which was completely reasonable.

[Path-Shaper]

Whoops:

It is Day 2. 11 hours and 42 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Omtose

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ampelas ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Fener ( Korvalain )
2 Votes for Korvalain ( Omtose, Driss )
2 Votes for Omtose ( Eloth, Atrahal )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Fener, Karosis