[Liosan]

more like thirteen looking at it.

[Anomandaris]

We need to discuss what is going on. It is so quiet in here. I am around most of today on and off. Anyone else the same?

Can we have a time update PS?

[Omtose]

Fener/D'riss/Eloth

These are my 3.

Vote D'riss

[Anomandaris]

Omtose, on 27 June 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

Fener/D'riss/Eloth

These are my 3.

Vote D'riss

Any Reason him over the others?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 9 hours and 9 minutes remaining
7 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Liosan, Omtose

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Driss ( Omtose )
1 Vote for Eloth ( Fener )
1 Vote for Liosan ( Anomandaris )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Atrahal, Driss, Eloth

-Liz

[Omtose]

The arguments for D'riss and Fener are essentially the same. The only difference I've perceived is D'riss seems more careful with his votes.

I'll vote Eloth of course, I think I've demonstrated that (and been over my reasons before).

[Atrahal]

Omtose, on 27 June 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

The arguments for D'riss and Fener are essentially the same. The only difference I've perceived is D'riss seems more careful with his votes.

I'll vote Eloth of course, I think I've demonstrated that (and been over my reasons before).

I'm going to prod you a little more. What do you mean they are essentially the same? Fener seems to be messing around for most of the game, and D'riss seems to be very careful and thorough with his thinking.

[Atrahal]

For some kicks, take a look at this page (start of Day 3) where Omtose and Liosan get into it, with Fener jabbing from the sidelines. This is the point at which a lynch train on Karo picks up in a matter of hours (4 votes dropped in quick sequence: Omtose, Amp, Fener and Liosan in that order.

http://forum.malazan...ic=24105&st=360

[Liosan]

Atrahal, on 27 June 2012 - 10:10 AM, said:

For some kicks, take a look at this page (start of Day 3) where Omtose and Liosan get into it, with Fener jabbing from the sidelines. This is the point at which a lynch train on Karo picks up in a matter of hours (4 votes dropped in quick sequence: Omtose, Amp, Fener and Liosan in that order.

http://forum.malazan...ic=24105&st=360

I do remember that, very well. I think a few people missed it at the time, but i voted in anger, i was trying to make a point about the way people were voting at random and rushed the vote against korvalain. then started day 3 with an equally stupid push on karo and an ignoring of my ampelas case coupled with his disregarding and ignoring my points just pissed me off no end.

Liosan, on 21 June 2012 - 07:11 AM, said:

What exactly is the rush here folks? Its supposed to be a game, but you lot are trying to go hell for leather.

@korv - that helped no one, you had plenty of options, you could have got behind my case on ampelas or put out a few suggestions about who you think is scum, it says your town, but you robbed us of the info from who was the hammer.

@amp - So from posting nothing for the first day, you have suddenly popped up as mister thread driver. No one thinks this is suspicious? or the fact your following omtose onto karosis, whose case on korvalain stemmed from day 1 speculation and day 2 consisted of basically saying day 1 was a derail!

Liosan, on 21 June 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

I think you guys have that case arse about face, karosis has voted for near everybody and jumps on every case going. At best he is a symp, but hell no one is going to go for ampelas it seems, so my case is just falling on deaf ears.

vote karosis

Dont think he is a killer, but he could be symping anyone as he seems like he just wants to lynch lynch lynch, and it seems not to care who the target is.

Liosan, on 21 June 2012 - 07:56 AM, said:

in fact kinda amusing how ampelas grouped everybody, left out omtose and fener and now the three of them started a lynch train on karosis.

Liosan, on 21 June 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

remove vote

Wont be back for a while, and I have calmed down a little so going to remove my vote.

[Anomandaris]

Anomandaris, on 21 June 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

I need to have another read through. I'm not convinced of this case on Karosis, especially how he now has 4 votes out of 6 with over 24 hours to go. We lynched Korv because we thought Eloth could have been his symp, and for other reasons. Now today we are going to lynch Karosis because we think Eloth is his symp and other reasons. For me the only constant in the two cases is Eloth. We keep thinking Eloth is a symp but he has not tried to deflect away from Karosis at all, or provide an alternative. If Eloth was a killer we'd be playing into his hands at the moment. Killing off another town will he tries again at night.

I could see Amp as a possible partner as his play has definately changed. He admitted (I think) to low posting or being a low poster on day one and some of day two and now his activity has hiked and his cases seem strong. Omtose has been attacked or accused by one or two players over the course of the game and his case looks okay but I think Karosis could be a symp with his play compared to Eloth and Amp's play. (mentioning Omtose here because he might feel the need to provide an alternative to himself as Amp was looking at him yesterday, setting him up for today).

In fact looking at what people have said Karosis does stand out as a symp, I don't think scum would have hammered like he did with over an hour to go.

Vote Eloth

Eloth has been under suspicion all game. Not just by me. People keep saying he is a symp. I want to know who he has been symping. A good way for scum to coast is by letting us know that they are not threatening and I think Eloth has done this job. No one is convinced he is a killer yet they think of him as a symp. It is D day and we best be sure of this lynch.

I did find this quick pile up on Karosis fishy. At the end of this day Amp was lynched yet it could have been anyone of those that started this train. This was only in the first few hours of that day too.

[Liosan]

I had actually forgotten about the voting order at the start of day 3 with omtose and fener, I focused too much on how the voting ended rather than what happened before with my analysis yesterday.

[Omtose]

Atrahal, on 27 June 2012 - 09:58 AM, said:

Omtose, on 27 June 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

The arguments for D'riss and Fener are essentially the same. The only difference I've perceived is D'riss seems more careful with his votes.

I'll vote Eloth of course, I think I've demonstrated that (and been over my reasons before).

I'm going to prod you a little more. What do you mean they are essentially the same? Fener seems to be messing around for most of the game, and D'riss seems to be very careful and thorough with his thinking.

The argument is their gameplay. Fener is messing aound so he could be scum. D'riss is very smooth, so he could be scum. Their method is different, but the accusation people have made towards them is essentially the same.

I arrived at those three through elimination: Atrahal, Liosan, Anomandaris seem LESS likely than those 3.

And before Eloth starts foaming at the mouth again, I am not eliminating anyone from suspicion, but with this game being down to the wire, I need to go with whom I feel a greater conviction of their being scum.

[Atrahal]

You've never voted for D'riss before, am I correct Omtose?

[Omtose]

That is correct. I'm mostly voting for him here because he's one of my 3 suspects who doesn't have a vote on them.

[Atrahal]

I think I'll be back for lunch time to read up and change my vote if necessary. I know this puts him at L-2, but I think this may be a good bet and worth the risk, esp since if I don't, I may not get a vote if things go haywire at work today.

Vote D'riss

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 7 hours and 51 minutes remaining

7 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Liosan, Omtose

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Driss ( Omtose, Atrahal )
1 Vote for Eloth ( Fener )
1 Vote for Liosan ( Anomandaris )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Driss, Eloth

-Liz

[Liosan]

Is driss coming back? I want to see what he has to say about this. Thats two days in a row he has got this same case laid against him. Isnt having him on two votes a bit risky?

[Omtose]

I'll be around.

Remove Vote

[Liosan]

Who do you think driss is partnered with?

[Atrahal]

Liosan, on 27 June 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

Who do you think driss is partnered with?

Same person who just removed his vote from D'riss