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#641 User is offline   Fener 

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:09 PM

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View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

For me I'm going to take a look at you, D'riss and Liosan.

Remove your vote we got plenty of time.


like thats gonna happen the day after we timed out. We cannot go without a lynch today, period.


Yeh but we got time and only scum would vote this early. You and Fener look mighty suspicious with your quick votes. I trust two people at the moment, one of those is Atrahal the other is Omtose. How can you link me with Eloth? I've been voting for him the last 3-4 days. I think Scum has got to be out of you Fener and D'riss. I was right about Karosis being non scum, that means Atrahal is CI as of now. I also think Omtose is in the clear. That leaves you three. I think I'll wait to see what those three have to say before voting.



If you've been voting for Eloth the past few days, why note vote for him now? Why not include him in your list of possible scum?

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:16 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

For me I'm going to take a look at you, D'riss and Liosan.

Remove your vote we got plenty of time.


like thats gonna happen the day after we timed out. We cannot go without a lynch today, period.


Yeh but we got time and only scum would vote this early. You and Fener look mighty suspicious with your quick votes. I trust two people at the moment, one of those is Atrahal the other is Omtose. How can you link me with Eloth? I've been voting for him the last 3-4 days. I think Scum has got to be out of you Fener and D'riss. I was right about Karosis being non scum, that means Atrahal is CI as of now. I also think Omtose is in the clear. That leaves you three. I think I'll wait to see what those three have to say before voting.


Yesterday timed out without a lynch so the arguments from yesterday are still in place, only difference now is the fact karosis is confirmed as healer and you voted eloth, but conveniently missed the end of day by minutes. Now when fener votes eloth you are telling us to slow down, while claiming you have been pushing eloth for 3-4 days. Added to which, as soon as eloth changed his vote yesterday you were on like a shot alongside him.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:31 PM

I have voted for Eloth in the past and no one wanted to vote for him alongside me except for Anthras. I missed the lynch yesterday otherwise we would have had an Eloth lynch. I'm glad I never now. You are incriminating yourself further. Double teaming me whilst everyone is asleep.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:42 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

For me I'm going to take a look at you, D'riss and Liosan.

Remove your vote we got plenty of time.


like thats gonna happen the day after we timed out. We cannot go without a lynch today, period.


Yeh but we got time and only scum would vote this early. You and Fener look mighty suspicious with your quick votes. I trust two people at the moment, one of those is Atrahal the other is Omtose. How can you link me with Eloth? I've been voting for him the last 3-4 days. I think Scum has got to be out of you Fener and D'riss. I was right about Karosis being non scum, that means Atrahal is CI as of now. I also think Omtose is in the clear. That leaves you three. I think I'll wait to see what those three have to say before voting.


Why do you think that Omtose is in the clear? I haven't cleared anyone.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:47 PM

You want to wait to see which way the wind blows before deciding where to vote?

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:48 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 June 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

For me I'm going to take a look at you, D'riss and Liosan.

Remove your vote we got plenty of time.


like thats gonna happen the day after we timed out. We cannot go without a lynch today, period.


Yeh but we got time and only scum would vote this early. You and Fener look mighty suspicious with your quick votes. I trust two people at the moment, one of those is Atrahal the other is Omtose. How can you link me with Eloth? I've been voting for him the last 3-4 days. I think Scum has got to be out of you Fener and D'riss. I was right about Karosis being non scum, that means Atrahal is CI as of now. I also think Omtose is in the clear. That leaves you three. I think I'll wait to see what those three have to say before voting.


Why do you think that Omtose is in the clear? I haven't cleared anyone.


So now he has to wait for you to tell him when someones in the clear? or am i misreading your sentence.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:54 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 June 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

For me I'm going to take a look at you, D'riss and Liosan.

Remove your vote we got plenty of time.


like thats gonna happen the day after we timed out. We cannot go without a lynch today, period.


Yeh but we got time and only scum would vote this early. You and Fener look mighty suspicious with your quick votes. I trust two people at the moment, one of those is Atrahal the other is Omtose. How can you link me with Eloth? I've been voting for him the last 3-4 days. I think Scum has got to be out of you Fener and D'riss. I was right about Karosis being non scum, that means Atrahal is CI as of now. I also think Omtose is in the clear. That leaves you three. I think I'll wait to see what those three have to say before voting.


Why do you think that Omtose is in the clear? I haven't cleared anyone.


He could be very low lying scum but i'm very doubtful. He has been helpful, he has voted, he has made cases just as town are supposed to do. Partly that is the reason I am hesitant to vote for you. You made a case yesterday which I was agreeable with.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:55 PM

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

You want to wait to see which way the wind blows before deciding where to vote?


Vote Liosan

I am not afraid to vote at all. I am not piling on Eloth this early in the day. Why are you so bothered about my vote all of a sudden?

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:56 PM

Actually, I was wondering the same thing (although I, of course, AM clear). :D

In a game where "scum will play like this" accusations have flown around, I'm not sure why anyone would be cleared by anybody, really.

Re: Anomandaris
I think he could very well be scum, but I don't see why he wouldn't have just lurked rather than come on and make a dodgy-ass vote.

Also, I think scum screwed up with their kill of Karosis. Sure, it's good for them to remove the healer, but they could have continued to call into question his reveal by keeping him alive. AND, now we have the likely PI of Atrahal because Karosis' reveal serves to clear him of being a killer (not symp though).

To be honest, I thought I was going to be the one to die, since I'm the only person who was sort of dropped as a possible suspect based on yesterday's play, and killing Karosis lets us ignore Atrahal.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:58 PM

Crosspost with Anomandaris.

"I was wondering the same thing" is directed at Liosan/Eloth.

And Anomandaris, what the hell kind of vote is that? You're voting Liosan because he is calling your lack of voting Eloth sketchy?

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:58 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 12:55 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

You want to wait to see which way the wind blows before deciding where to vote?


Vote Liosan

I am not afraid to vote at all. I am not piling on Eloth this early in the day. Why are you so bothered about my vote all of a sudden?


Its not your vote - its the questioning of my voting that was bothering me.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:08 PM

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 June 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

For me I'm going to take a look at you, D'riss and Liosan.

Remove your vote we got plenty of time.


like thats gonna happen the day after we timed out. We cannot go without a lynch today, period.


Yeh but we got time and only scum would vote this early. You and Fener look mighty suspicious with your quick votes. I trust two people at the moment, one of those is Atrahal the other is Omtose. How can you link me with Eloth? I've been voting for him the last 3-4 days. I think Scum has got to be out of you Fener and D'riss. I was right about Karosis being non scum, that means Atrahal is CI as of now. I also think Omtose is in the clear. That leaves you three. I think I'll wait to see what those three have to say before voting.


Why do you think that Omtose is in the clear? I haven't cleared anyone.


So now he has to wait for you to tell him when someones in the clear? or am i misreading your sentence.


No you nut I was asking why he had cleared Omtose. It is D day and I don't trust "cleared" anyone. That seemed pretty straight forward to me.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:08 PM

Or are you talking about yesterdays vote? or should i say last nights vote? cause that did bother me, hence the vote for you not eloth.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:12 PM

View PostEloth, on 26 June 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 June 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

For me I'm going to take a look at you, D'riss and Liosan.

Remove your vote we got plenty of time.


like thats gonna happen the day after we timed out. We cannot go without a lynch today, period.


Yeh but we got time and only scum would vote this early. You and Fener look mighty suspicious with your quick votes. I trust two people at the moment, one of those is Atrahal the other is Omtose. How can you link me with Eloth? I've been voting for him the last 3-4 days. I think Scum has got to be out of you Fener and D'riss. I was right about Karosis being non scum, that means Atrahal is CI as of now. I also think Omtose is in the clear. That leaves you three. I think I'll wait to see what those three have to say before voting.


Why do you think that Omtose is in the clear? I haven't cleared anyone.


So now he has to wait for you to tell him when someones in the clear? or am i misreading your sentence.


No you nut I was asking why he had cleared Omtose. It is D day and I don't trust "cleared" anyone. That seemed pretty straight forward to me.


But the wording of your post implies ano shouldnt have cleared omtose, cause you havent cleared anyone yet...

Pretty ridiculous how simple it is to misconstrue what people say to suit your own needs isnt it? even when its clearly totally nonsense to do so.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:14 PM

View PostOmtose, on 26 June 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

Actually, I was wondering the same thing (although I, of course, AM clear). :D

In a game where "scum will play like this" accusations have flown around, I'm not sure why anyone would be cleared by anybody, really.

Re: Anomandaris
I think he could very well be scum, but I don't see why he wouldn't have just lurked rather than come on and make a dodgy-ass vote.

Also, I think scum screwed up with their kill of Karosis. Sure, it's good for them to remove the healer, but they could have continued to call into question his reveal by keeping him alive. AND, now we have the likely PI of Atrahal because Karosis' reveal serves to clear him of being a killer (not symp though).

To be honest, I thought I was going to be the one to die, since I'm the only person who was sort of dropped as a possible suspect based on yesterday's play, and killing Karosis lets us ignore Atrahal.


You didn't drop from my suspect list. I just felt that other players deserved a good look. Then when I was looking at them. I started to find them more suspicious then you. Fener was basically coasting and dropping votes in the middle of trains until yesterday. Liosan has been posting and playing all game but nobody had bothered to build a case on him. I think that all of the other players have had cases built on them. As town it behooves us to look at all players and not have blinders on. This is D day after all.

Frankly I am a little bothered by everyone's quick voting fingers on D day. It seems to me that their should be more discussion then random votes on D day.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:16 PM

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 June 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 June 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

For me I'm going to take a look at you, D'riss and Liosan.

Remove your vote we got plenty of time.


like thats gonna happen the day after we timed out. We cannot go without a lynch today, period.


Yeh but we got time and only scum would vote this early. You and Fener look mighty suspicious with your quick votes. I trust two people at the moment, one of those is Atrahal the other is Omtose. How can you link me with Eloth? I've been voting for him the last 3-4 days. I think Scum has got to be out of you Fener and D'riss. I was right about Karosis being non scum, that means Atrahal is CI as of now. I also think Omtose is in the clear. That leaves you three. I think I'll wait to see what those three have to say before voting.


Why do you think that Omtose is in the clear? I haven't cleared anyone.


So now he has to wait for you to tell him when someones in the clear? or am i misreading your sentence.


No you nut I was asking why he had cleared Omtose. It is D day and I don't trust "cleared" anyone. That seemed pretty straight forward to me.


But the wording of your post implies ano shouldnt have cleared omtose, cause you havent cleared anyone yet...

Pretty ridiculous how simple it is to misconstrue what people say to suit your own needs isnt it? even when its clearly totally nonsense to do so.


slightly different then blatently saying that you don't find a player suspicious though isn't it. Clearing and finding someone suspicious are vastly different. Like comparing your asscrack to the grand canyon. While it is big, people don't have to get a jackass to take their gear down into it. :D

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:21 PM

View PostOmtose, on 26 June 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

Crosspost with Anomandaris.

"I was wondering the same thing" is directed at Liosan/Eloth.

And Anomandaris, what the hell kind of vote is that? You're voting Liosan because he is calling your lack of voting Eloth sketchy?


Liosan is acting scummy along with Fener. It is not a bad vote. I haven't built a case or anything yet but I just want to find out why he wants us all to vote Eloth all of a sudden. He wasn't this vocal yesterday. (about an Eloth lynch)

View PostEloth, on 26 June 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 June 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

For me I'm going to take a look at you, D'riss and Liosan.

Remove your vote we got plenty of time.


like thats gonna happen the day after we timed out. We cannot go without a lynch today, period.


Yeh but we got time and only scum would vote this early. You and Fener look mighty suspicious with your quick votes. I trust two people at the moment, one of those is Atrahal the other is Omtose. How can you link me with Eloth? I've been voting for him the last 3-4 days. I think Scum has got to be out of you Fener and D'riss. I was right about Karosis being non scum, that means Atrahal is CI as of now. I also think Omtose is in the clear. That leaves you three. I think I'll wait to see what those three have to say before voting.


Why do you think that Omtose is in the clear? I haven't cleared anyone.


So now he has to wait for you to tell him when someones in the clear? or am i misreading your sentence.


No you nut I was asking why he had cleared Omtose. It is D day and I don't trust "cleared" anyone. That seemed pretty straight forward to me.


Come on. We have had a good many days within this game to get a good feel for who is town and who is possible scum. Omtose and Atrahal are right down the bottom of that ladder. I have put you towards the middle due to your case yesterday. That leaves the most suspect in my eyes. I think two out of Fener, Liosan and D'riss are the killers but I have to have a proper catch up before I lay down my proper vote. For now it is on Liosan because of your case yesterday linking him with D'riss and Fener but also because of the way they have buddied up all game long.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:21 PM

though i heard it does help :D

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:24 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 26 June 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

Crosspost with Anomandaris.

"I was wondering the same thing" is directed at Liosan/Eloth.

And Anomandaris, what the hell kind of vote is that? You're voting Liosan because he is calling your lack of voting Eloth sketchy?


Liosan is acting scummy along with Fener. It is not a bad vote. I haven't built a case or anything yet but I just want to find out why he wants us all to vote Eloth all of a sudden. He wasn't this vocal yesterday. (about an Eloth lynch)



Actually, I thought he made it pretty clear why he is pushing an Eloth vote. He found your late entrance scummy. Besides, he obviously was fine with voting Eloth yesterday, and it resulted in a stalled lynch.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:27 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 26 June 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

Crosspost with Anomandaris.

"I was wondering the same thing" is directed at Liosan/Eloth.

And Anomandaris, what the hell kind of vote is that? You're voting Liosan because he is calling your lack of voting Eloth sketchy?


Liosan is acting scummy along with Fener. It is not a bad vote. I haven't built a case or anything yet but I just want to find out why he wants us all to vote Eloth all of a sudden. He wasn't this vocal yesterday. (about an Eloth lynch)

View PostEloth, on 26 June 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 26 June 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

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View PostAnomandaris, on 26 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

For me I'm going to take a look at you, D'riss and Liosan.

Remove your vote we got plenty of time.


like thats gonna happen the day after we timed out. We cannot go without a lynch today, period.


Yeh but we got time and only scum would vote this early. You and Fener look mighty suspicious with your quick votes. I trust two people at the moment, one of those is Atrahal the other is Omtose. How can you link me with Eloth? I've been voting for him the last 3-4 days. I think Scum has got to be out of you Fener and D'riss. I was right about Karosis being non scum, that means Atrahal is CI as of now. I also think Omtose is in the clear. That leaves you three. I think I'll wait to see what those three have to say before voting.


Why do you think that Omtose is in the clear? I haven't cleared anyone.


So now he has to wait for you to tell him when someones in the clear? or am i misreading your sentence.


No you nut I was asking why he had cleared Omtose. It is D day and I don't trust "cleared" anyone. That seemed pretty straight forward to me.


Come on. We have had a good many days within this game to get a good feel for who is town and who is possible scum. Omtose and Atrahal are right down the bottom of that ladder. I have put you towards the middle due to your case yesterday. That leaves the most suspect in my eyes. I think two out of Fener, Liosan and D'riss are the killers but I have to have a proper catch up before I lay down my proper vote. For now it is on Liosan because of your case yesterday linking him with D'riss and Fener but also because of the way they have buddied up all game long.


I agree that Omtose is down on the list of possible scum. I just wouldn't have cleared him totally. He is a tricky bastard.

@ liosan Muhahahaha

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