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#201 User is offline   Korbas 

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 04:12 PM

I'm not going to come back guilty

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 04:16 PM

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 8 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ampelas ( Fener )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
5 Votes for Korvalain ( Omtose, Driss, Karosis, Korbas, Anthras )
6 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas, Eloth, Atrahal, Liosan )

-Liz
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#203 User is offline   Karosis 

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 04:19 PM

Welp, as I said when I moved my vote to Korv, I'm mostly just interested in actually getting a lynch today - I am still more interested in Meanas and D'riss but neither of those seem to interest anyone else. I will give a bit more time for discussion, just cause, but if someone else doesn't hammer Korbas before timeout, I'll oblige. Like I said in my previous post, I think the case against him is just as good as the case against Korv... To be honest, I think they'd both CF town, though.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:10 PM

Guess I shouldn't have offered to hammer - no one's gonna put a hammer vote down if they don't have to.

Well

remove vote
vote Korbas


Let's see how this goes then!

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:16 PM

After the swift and gruesome death in town Jose Blanco, ex police officer, goes around to see weather he can find something useful, alas the townspeople see him looking around and feel that maybe he is the murderer.

Korbas is dead. He was Retired Talon and finder(town)


It is Day 1. 1 hour and 13 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ampelas ( Fener )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
4 Votes for Korvalain ( Omtose, Driss, Korbas, Anthras )
7 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas, Eloth, Atrahal, Liosan, Karosis )

It is now night

-Liz
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#206 User is offline   Karosis 

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:18 PM

View PostHath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

After the swift and gruesome death in town Jose Blanco, ex police officer, goes around to see weather he can find something useful, alas the townspeople see him looking around and feel that maybe he is the murderer.

Korbas is dead. He was Retired Talon and finder(town)


It is Day 1. 1 hour and 13 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ampelas ( Fener )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
4 Votes for Korvalain ( Omtose, Driss, Korbas, Anthras )
7 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas, Eloth, Atrahal, Liosan, Karosis )

It is now night

-Liz


Well that sucks... :rolleyes:

#207 User is offline   Korvalain 

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:19 PM

Crap. We lost a finder.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:21 PM

View PostD, on 19 June 2012 - 08:42 AM, said:

View PostFener, on 19 June 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 18 June 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

Right, I've just realised I'm not going to be around at all for the next 22 hours or so, so I'm placing my vote now.

Vote Anomandaris

Because he's the killer. Duh.



First,
remove vote

Next: Y'know, I find this from Ampelas slightly weird. Why? Because we are told in the OP that there are paired killers and a symp, and specifically that PS was killed by two men. Yet Ampelas claims he's voted Anomandaris "Because he's the killer". Singular. Why would he refer to a singular killer and not (as I would find more natural) one of a pair. Unless he's the other killer!

I knonw it's tentative, but I've just woken up, and it seems to me that this is the kind of minor slip most likely to occur on Day 1. Thus:

Vote Ampelas


I think this is probably a townie who hasn't been reading properly. Surely scum would be more likely to remember that there are two killers? It's something to keep in mind, but I don't think it is worth voting someone over.



Catching up, and I find this response to my (admittedly weak) proto-case against Ampelas being jumped all over by D'riss. Plausible defence, but isn't this the kind of thing we should be alert for on Day 1? I say again, I find Ampelas's original post (quoted above) suspicious -- perhaps moreso because in the last game, Starling almost gave herself away on Day 1 by a similar category error.
And now D'riss is looking like a symp, because surely the posting style of a symp is going to be just what D'riss does above: invoke Day 1 'ill-preparedness' not much else.

I'm sure I read a response from Ampelas to the above, but I can't find it on-thread now :rolleyes:
In any case, it doesn't appear that there'll be much movement voting-wise from the above, but I think it bears repeating. And I reserve the right to shout "I Told You So" loudly and obnoxiously should I be proved right.

But, in the interests of getting a Day 1 lynch:

Remove vote

Vote Korbas


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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:22 PM

Bah, I was too late.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:22 PM

It seems it is a black time for town and death is stalking you. In the morning you find another dead person in your middle.

Meanas is dead. He was Silencer and town.

It is Day 2. 31 hours and 59 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

-Liz

This post has been edited by Hath-Daper: 19 June 2012 - 05:23 PM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:23 PM

View PostFener, on 19 June 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

Bah, I was too late.



I was just going to ask where you and Amp have been.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:25 PM

Well, at least we now know that there are townies with roles -- maybe a doc among us? Definitely be worth being substantive with cases from now on. I realise my vote for Korb above, though late, would have ticked us over to night and mea proxima culpa, but hey -- wasn'me! :rolleyes:

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:36 PM

View PostHath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

After the swift and gruesome death in town Jose Blanco, ex police officer, goes around to see weather he can find something useful, alas the townspeople see him looking around and feel that maybe he is the murderer.

Korbas is dead. He was Retired Talon and finder(town)


It is Day 1. 1 hour and 13 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ampelas ( Fener )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
4 Votes for Korvalain ( Omtose, Driss, Korbas, Anthras )
7 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas, Eloth, Atrahal, Liosan, Karosis )

It is now night

-Liz


Well that was probably the absolute worst day 1 lynch in a while. Since I seriously doubt that there is a second finder in the game.

#214 User is offline   Eloth 

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:40 PM

View PostHath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

After the swift and gruesome death in town Jose Blanco, ex police officer, goes around to see weather he can find something useful, alas the townspeople see him looking around and feel that maybe he is the murderer.



Joe probably shouldn't have been looking for the weather but instead he should have been looking to see whether he could have found a clue. Just fyi. Clues are on the ground and the weather is in the sky. Popo should be looking at the ground not the sky.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:41 PM

View PostFener, on 19 June 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

Well, at least we now know that there are townies with roles -- maybe a doc among us? Definitely be worth being substantive with cases from now on. I realise my vote for Korb above, though late, would have ticked us over to night and mea proxima culpa, but hey -- wasn'me! :rolleyes:


Are you asking for a healer to step announce himself? Because that is what your post seems like.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 06:09 PM

View PostEloth, on 19 June 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 19 June 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

Well, at least we now know that there are townies with roles -- maybe a doc among us? Definitely be worth being substantive with cases from now on. I realise my vote for Korb above, though late, would have ticked us over to night and mea proxima culpa, but hey -- wasn'me! :rolleyes:


Are you asking for a healer to step announce himself? Because that is what your post seems like.



Well, no, as that would be unutterably foolish. Just throwing out some ideas of what we might have at our disposal that we aren't aware of -- and that hence the killers won't be aware of. I doubt they can have anticipated that we would lose a useful town role in the first lynch. It would therefore behoove any townie with such a role to, er, not get lynched. Somehow. Please?

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 06:10 PM

Since Korbas was ex police officer,I wonder whether we have a police officer or not.(meaning a vig )

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 06:28 PM

Possible, I guess, given that (meta warning) this game isn't intended to last that long. Assuming the killers kill one person per night, and we lynch someone every day, that's P (population) - 2 every cycle. With P starting at 13, and SP (scum population) = 3, that gives 4 cycles before SP = SVC. Add a town vig to that, and assuming the vig is used each cycle, P - 3 each cycle gives only 3 complete cycles before SVC, assuming vigs and lynches miss scum targets. Is 3 complete cycles enough for a short game? I'd be inclined to say not, and thus would be inclined to think we don't have a vig. Happy to be proved wrong though!

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 06:29 PM

So when I read the night scene, I thought that Meanas's role was a silencer... Then I reread it, and realized that he IS Silencer. So, straight off the bat, I would say the killers are trying to make it seem like I'm the one that went after Meanas - I'd just like to say right up front that it would have been a very dumb move for me to kill the person I had an on-thread fight with, so I'm hoping that no one takes it that way. I think we should start looking at people who weren't too close to Meanas during day yesterday. I've still got a D'Riss itch, but I'll take some time to go through the thread again, see if I can pick up anything more interesting.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 06:38 PM

Anyone else find this a little weird?

View PostAmpelas, on 18 June 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

Right, I've just realised I'm not going to be around at all for the next 22 hours or so, so I'm placing my vote now.

Vote Anomandaris

Because he's the killer. Duh.


Ampelas posted very little in terms of content, then said he was going to bed, and threw a completely useless vote at Anomandaris without any explanation whatsoever for why. I think of everyone who was posting yesterday, Anomandaris seemed pretty level headed, didn't make any blatantly obvious scum moves, etc. Thought that COULD be an indication of why Amp voted for him, I'd like to hear Amp's reasoning for an Anomandaris vote.

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