[Anthras]

There is 6 hours left in the day and we have not reached an
agreement,So now if i want to lynch someone i can do 2 things:
1.Vote Korvalain
2. Vote Meanas
because the only reason that 3 votes are on Meanas is jokes(2 votes where on him from joke period and the rest just voted cause of them),i will vote for Korvalain for now AND wait to see what will happen.


Vote Korvalain

Edit:spelling

This post has been edited by Anthras: 19 June 2012 - 12:43 PM

[Anomandaris]

I am willing to change my vote, and I do see where some players are coming from, maybe giving Korbas time to explain would be prudent but I think he is one of the killers. I'll be around for the next few hours and should be here before day times out to switch my vote. I want to see what others have to say about Korbas.

Why are people still voting for Meanas? I thought those were joke votes but they are still there...

[Liosan]

I understand what your saying but from the outside that just looked like two people insulting each other.

Thats pushed us to 3 players with 3 votes, will be on for a while but out of the three I dont know which i find most suspicious, korbas has a feeling of scumminess and I like the case above, but meanas you have a few posts i didnt like and will quote the major one below, and korv ignored my question about his ampelas removal when faced with what i think wasnt a very good response. so would like to hear back from him about that.

Meanas, on 19 June 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

Ohio!

Yeah, so, I'm town.
...

...

No, seriously. I'm pretty sure Fener's just upset because I said he didn't exist and Karo is trying to mimic the alt's last owner with the whole "wanna get a lynch" thing (while somehow simultaneously sounding like some kind of n00b...that sort of logic is about as sound as the logic that got Fener lynched endlessly, LOL!) and...I don't even know who else joined my first-ten-hours lynch train.

(Oh yeah, and whoever thought it was odd that I disappeared/hadn't responded....did you miss the part where I said I was going to bed in my last post? )
....

Right, have I covered all the bases? Does it sound "defensive" and "worried" enough? XD

The rest of your game I felt was unlucky given some odd random voting but saying 'i am town' is like saying 'oh i bet i get night killed' or voting for night. It just rings false for everybody and people should know better. Strangely korbas also did that, and his felt equally sarcastic.

Korbas, on 18 June 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

Anthras, on 18 June 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

You were late so no entrance,Period.
and dude who says put pressure on the guy. I ask of you,Why shouldn't i vote you?see there is no answer worth the time it takes typing.At least until later.we have to just trust our luck.

Edit:Grammar

There's no good reason as far as you know that you shouldn't vote me. Im T-totally town though, its the truth.

[Anthras]

Guys,i don't think we are going to achieve anything by delaying the lynch longer,so if those 6 anons online can vote someone and finish day1 it would be nice.

[Liosan]

Anthras, on 19 June 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

Guys,i don't think we are going to achieve anything by delaying the lynch longer,so if those 6 anons online can vote someone and finish day1 it would be nice.

I think it would be better to hear what people have to say, we have a few hours yet, lets use it.

[Anthras]

I mean whatever Meanas or anybody says can't change anything this early and if we don't finish it now there is
a chance that they won't finish it later.

[Eloth]

Looks like you guys have been busy since I was on here last. Going to get caught up.

[Liosan]

I dont think theres any chance of the day ending without a lynch, we have alot of people about and a few people with a good number of votes. I am not switching to korv or korbas without them having a chance to address the issues against them unless i have no more time to play, and given that i am here for another three and a half hours I will wait thanks.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 4 hours and 58 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ampelas ( Fener, Liosan )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
4 Votes for Korvalain ( Atrahal, Omtose, Driss, Anthras )
3 Votes for Meanas ( Eloth, Karosis, Korbas )
3 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas )

-Liz

[Karosis]

I don't wanna remove my vote from Meanas cause he's a dick, and I hate dicks, but as I said from the beginning, I want to get a lynch today, so....

remove vote
vote Korvalain

He's got the most votes right now, and I won't be bringing him to L-1, so there ya have it.... The case against him is about as good as the case against Korbas...

[Eloth]

Well that isn't so much a fun read as several pages of useless vote hopping. I am surprised that as many people piled on to my meanas vote, some even calling it a case when it was just nothing. A couple of things that stuck out to me are the players who aren't vote hopping, making cases or defending themselves, or low posting . Now this is day one so really there is no hard evidence to go off of. But in my little pea brain I thought scum aren't going to want to make waves but they are going to want to make sure that they are on enough to keep the lynch off of themselves and trying to appear helpful. These posts jumped out at me.

Omtose, on 19 June 2012 - 04:03 AM, said:

It's a balancing act. If we wait too long, it becomes a speed lynch of someone (often for little reason).

I'm tempted to vote for someone who hasn't laid a vote down (waiting to see which way the wind blows first), but for now I'm going to leave my vote on Korvalistmaker.

D, on 19 June 2012 - 04:08 AM, said:

You're right about the speed lynching, and it seems like more often recently we are missing out on lynches, which just sends us around the same tracks of thought we had the day before.

Omtose, on 19 June 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

I don't get a scum vibe from Korbas. Scum can be abrasive, but it tends to be a non-committal abrasive. Korbas actually threw his vote around. I could be wrong of course, but I think I'd need a little more to switch my vote at this juncture.

I would, however, be willing to vote Eloth. Karosis AKA Mac played a pretty low posting first couple of days in our last M&P, and that left me a little disinclined to ignore the lower posters.

Based purely on their reactions to the pressure that getting close to the lynch hump brings (lynch hump for those of you who don't know is over the 50% mark. The majority of the time if a player crosses the lynch hump then no amount of defense will keep them alive) I think that Meanas and Korv are town. So I don't really feel that lynching either one of them will give us good information. I think that a productive lynch would be Korbas. But I don't think that the votes are their for that. I know that with only 3 or so hours left this vote will be called useless. But I will be around for the remaining time.

Remove vote

Vote Omtose


editted to clarify and to add the remove vote.

This post has been edited by Eloth: 19 June 2012 - 01:39 PM

[Korvalain]

Liosan, on 19 June 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

I dont think theres any chance of the day ending without a lynch, we have alot of people about and a few people with a good number of votes. I am not switching to korv or korbas without them having a chance to address the issues against them unless i have no more time to play, and given that i am here for another three and a half hours I will wait thanks.

What have I not addressed? I don't think there's any real case against me other than that I am supposedly playing middle of the road, which on day 1 is hard to look otherwise.

[Eloth]

Hath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 4 hours and 58 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ampelas ( Fener, Liosan )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
4 Votes for Korvalain ( Atrahal, Omtose, Driss, Anthras )
3 Votes for Meanas ( Eloth, Karosis, Korbas )
3 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas )

-Liz

Thank you for the updated vote count. As much as I think that Omtose is playing like scum. I do want a lynch and I think that Korbas is the best lynch for today.

Remove vote

Vote Korbas

[Korvalain]

Anthras, on 19 June 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

There is 6 hours left in the day and we have not reached an
agreement,So now if i want to lynch someone i can do 2 things:
1.Vote Korvalain
2. Vote Meanas
because the only reason that 3 votes are on Meanas is jokes(2 votes where on him from joke period and the rest just voted cause of them),i will vote for Korvalain for now AND wait to see what will happen.


Vote Korvalain

Edit:spelling

You blatantly disregard the Korbas case or the fact that Ampelas has 2 votes on him.

[Liosan]

Korvalain, on 18 June 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 18 June 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 18 June 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

Yeah, Meanas is pretty random.

remove Vote

Ampelas, on 18 June 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Here.

Ampelas, on 18 June 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

Here again.

Scum or lazy townie, you've got to do better than that. ^^

vote Ampelas

Point me towards your contribution if you may be so kind. I keep looking, but I can't seem to find it.

IT SPEAKS MORE THAN 3 WORDS! I'm satisfied, now we're tied.

remove Vote

I agree Fener is a bit overzealous in his following.

@korv - Both driss and I raised questions about this vote removal which i dont feel you answered. You put a vote on ampelas for low posting then removed when he basically said that you haven't posted anything of worth. It looks like you picked him as an easy vote and then didnt want to be pushed into anything when he responded, though your vote didnt elicit any more activity as he went from two posts before your vote, to five after it.

[Anthras]

Korvalain, on 19 June 2012 - 01:42 PM, said:

Anthras, on 19 June 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

There is 6 hours left in the day and we have not reached an
agreement,So now if i want to lynch someone i can do 2 things:
1.Vote Korvalain
2. Vote Meanas
because the only reason that 3 votes are on Meanas is jokes(2 votes where on him from joke period and the rest just voted cause of them),i will vote for Korvalain for now AND wait to see what will happen.


Vote Korvalain

Edit:spelling

You blatantly disregard the Korbas case or the fact that Ampelas has 2 votes on him.

When i posted,there were 3 votes on you and 3 on Meanas and i want a lynch so i wanted to vote the guys with most votes already.

[Korvalain]

Liosan, on 19 June 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 18 June 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 18 June 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 18 June 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

Yeah, Meanas is pretty random.

remove Vote

Ampelas, on 18 June 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Here.

Ampelas, on 18 June 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

Here again.

Scum or lazy townie, you've got to do better than that. ^^

vote Ampelas

Point me towards your contribution if you may be so kind. I keep looking, but I can't seem to find it.

IT SPEAKS MORE THAN 3 WORDS! I'm satisfied, now we're tied.

remove Vote

I agree Fener is a bit overzealous in his following.

@korv - Both driss and I raised questions about this vote removal which i dont feel you answered. You put a vote on ampelas for low posting then removed when he basically said that you haven't posted anything of worth. It looks like you picked him as an easy vote and then didnt want to be pushed into anything when he responded, though your vote didnt elicit any more activity as he went from two posts before your vote, to five after it.

Ah ok. That's what you're talking about. In response to my voting and removiing on Amp, I didn't like his first two posts being completely empty. No discussion, nothing. He came back and acted like he might actually play so i retracted to see how he'd act going forward.

[Anthras]

Hath-Daper, on 19 June 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 6 hours and 3 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ampelas ( Fener, Liosan )
3 Votes for Meanas ( Eloth, Karosis, Korbas )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
3 Votes for Korvalain ( Atrahal, Omtose, Driss )
1 Vote for Eloth ( Meanas )
2 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain )

Players not voted: Anthras

-Liz

This was the last count before my vote.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 4 hours and 27 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Driss, Eloth, Fener, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ampelas ( Fener, Liosan )
1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Ampelas )
5 Votes for Korvalain ( Atrahal, Omtose, Driss, Anthras, Karosis )
1 Vote for Meanas ( Korbas )
4 Votes for Korbas ( Anomandaris, Korvalain, Meanas, Eloth )

-Liz

[Omtose]

Eloth, on 19 June 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

Well that isn't so much a fun read as several pages of useless vote hopping. I am surprised that as many people piled on to my meanas vote, some even calling it a case when it was just nothing. A couple of things that stuck out to me are the players who aren't vote hopping, making cases or defending themselves, or low posting . Now this is day one so really there is no hard evidence to go off of. But in my little pea brain I thought scum aren't going to want to make waves but they are going to want to make sure that they are on enough to keep the lynch off of themselves and trying to appear helpful. These posts jumped out at me.

Omtose, on 19 June 2012 - 04:03 AM, said:

It's a balancing act. If we wait too long, it becomes a speed lynch of someone (often for little reason).

I'm tempted to vote for someone who hasn't laid a vote down (waiting to see which way the wind blows first), but for now I'm going to leave my vote on Korvalistmaker.

D, on 19 June 2012 - 04:08 AM, said:

You're right about the speed lynching, and it seems like more often recently we are missing out on lynches, which just sends us around the same tracks of thought we had the day before.

Omtose, on 19 June 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

I don't get a scum vibe from Korbas. Scum can be abrasive, but it tends to be a non-committal abrasive. Korbas actually threw his vote around. I could be wrong of course, but I think I'd need a little more to switch my vote at this juncture.

I would, however, be willing to vote Eloth. Karosis AKA Mac played a pretty low posting first couple of days in our last M&P, and that left me a little disinclined to ignore the lower posters.

Based purely on their reactions to the pressure that getting close to the lynch hump brings (lynch hump for those of you who don't know is over the 50% mark. The majority of the time if a player crosses the lynch hump then no amount of defense will keep them alive) I think that Meanas and Korv are town. So I don't really feel that lynching either one of them will give us good information. I think that a productive lynch would be Korbas. But I don't think that the votes are their for that. I know that with only 3 or so hours left this vote will be called useless. But I will be around for the remaining time.

Remove vote

Vote Omtose


editted to clarify and to add the remove vote.

I'm not sure I understand why you're voting for me. You won't vote for Korbas because the votes aren't there, but you'll vote for me? Also, not make waves? I'm hardly the most obvious target for that either. I'm fine with you applying pressure to me, but it should make some sort of sense.... Not to mention, you remove and vote Korbas 3 minutes after voting for me, so it doesn't even count as "pressure".

Care to explain further?