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#661 User is offline   Fener 

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:44 PM

View PostOmtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 05 June 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 05 June 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Hmm, I read it that BM nominates a successor, who's only informed of their change in role if BM kicks the bucket.


I'd like some clarification on the successor bit, if possible PS.

Just finished my morning catch-up and am chewing on a couple of the new cases.

Telas building a case on anyone who was gunning for Osseric when Joker put him out there is interesting. Personally I was just going off of what little information we had at that time and trying to make a bit of sense from it. I understand that if the Joker was Osseric, he probably wouldn't want to put his name out there like that, drawing attention. I would WIFOM on that all day, but instead I'll just assume that's what happened. Seeing as the CL would have no clue who BM is, and no clue who each other are, Osseric is most likely just a random name with a 4/21 chance of being either a CL or BM. This is the same chance that any name would have assuming a CL threw out a name that was not theres. So, there is not really much evidence that Oss is anything other than a random name.


Ok, this is Ano's response when I put his name out there as one of three interested in seeing an Osseric lynch. Here he says that he's pretty much convinced Osseric is just a random name thrown out by the Joker, and very unlikely to be the Joker himself. But that's not really what he said earlier:



View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 05 June 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Ok, so I finally actually caught up.

Here are my thoughts.

If town needs to have more than any of the cults for a victory at bowel movement's time of death, then taking out one of the leaders wouldn't be a bad idea.

So we have joker pointing at Osseric as bowel movement. I don't see how Joker could have any idea who bowel movement is, so possibly A) Joker really does think that Oss is bowel movement and would like to see him taken down a life. B--) (Sorry for dashes, trying to avoid a smiley appearing instead) The Joker thinks that Oss is one of the other cult leaders and wants to toss some heat on him. C) The joker is actually Oss, and put his own name in there to throw townsfolk off (or just as a joke). And finally D) Oss is just a random-ass name that the joker threw in.

Thoughts anyone? I'm physically exhausted after reading/posting this. Ill check back later.

I don't think I've ever seen a WIFOM statement as blatant as the Joker's "Osseric is the Batman" statement. As you say, there's no way the Joker can have any legitimate knowledge of who the Batman is at this point, so I don't see why there's any reason to treat his pronouncements with more strength than if a random player tossed out the opinion "I think Osseric is the Batman" without any evidence to back it up - eg. none.




So basically your logic (which I think is totally sound) destroys my option B and A. So now I'm down to Osseric is a random name thrown, likely, or Joker is osseric. I may thrown a vote on him if I'm not wholly convinced he isnt joker further into day 1.



Here he doesn't sound anywhere near as convinced that Osseric is not the Joker as he does in the later post. Here he still sounds like he would be very willing to vote Osseric. What happened in the meantime? Not much as far as I know, aside from Ano's name being pointed out as being interested in an Osseric lynch - which he then distances himself from ever wanting in his response.


Here you are, Omtose.


OK that is odd. He does look like he's backpedalling.


Personally I don't think its any more than what's been put on you, and has the feel of a speed lynch.


Are you replying to yourself? Or what is going on here?

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:44 PM

View PostOmtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 05 June 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 05 June 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Hmm, I read it that BM nominates a successor, who's only informed of their change in role if BM kicks the bucket.


I'd like some clarification on the successor bit, if possible PS.

Just finished my morning catch-up and am chewing on a couple of the new cases.

Telas building a case on anyone who was gunning for Osseric when Joker put him out there is interesting. Personally I was just going off of what little information we had at that time and trying to make a bit of sense from it. I understand that if the Joker was Osseric, he probably wouldn't want to put his name out there like that, drawing attention. I would WIFOM on that all day, but instead I'll just assume that's what happened. Seeing as the CL would have no clue who BM is, and no clue who each other are, Osseric is most likely just a random name with a 4/21 chance of being either a CL or BM. This is the same chance that any name would have assuming a CL threw out a name that was not theres. So, there is not really much evidence that Oss is anything other than a random name.


Ok, this is Ano's response when I put his name out there as one of three interested in seeing an Osseric lynch. Here he says that he's pretty much convinced Osseric is just a random name thrown out by the Joker, and very unlikely to be the Joker himself. But that's not really what he said earlier:



View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 05 June 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Ok, so I finally actually caught up.

Here are my thoughts.

If town needs to have more than any of the cults for a victory at bowel movement's time of death, then taking out one of the leaders wouldn't be a bad idea.

So we have joker pointing at Osseric as bowel movement. I don't see how Joker could have any idea who bowel movement is, so possibly A) Joker really does think that Oss is bowel movement and would like to see him taken down a life. B--) (Sorry for dashes, trying to avoid a smiley appearing instead) The Joker thinks that Oss is one of the other cult leaders and wants to toss some heat on him. C) The joker is actually Oss, and put his own name in there to throw townsfolk off (or just as a joke). And finally D) Oss is just a random-ass name that the joker threw in.

Thoughts anyone? I'm physically exhausted after reading/posting this. Ill check back later.

I don't think I've ever seen a WIFOM statement as blatant as the Joker's "Osseric is the Batman" statement. As you say, there's no way the Joker can have any legitimate knowledge of who the Batman is at this point, so I don't see why there's any reason to treat his pronouncements with more strength than if a random player tossed out the opinion "I think Osseric is the Batman" without any evidence to back it up - eg. none.




So basically your logic (which I think is totally sound) destroys my option B and A. So now I'm down to Osseric is a random name thrown, likely, or Joker is osseric. I may thrown a vote on him if I'm not wholly convinced he isnt joker further into day 1.



Here he doesn't sound anywhere near as convinced that Osseric is not the Joker as he does in the later post. Here he still sounds like he would be very willing to vote Osseric. What happened in the meantime? Not much as far as I know, aside from Ano's name being pointed out as being interested in an Osseric lynch - which he then distances himself from ever wanting in his response.


Here you are, Omtose.


OK that is odd. He does look like he's backpedalling.


Personally I don't think its any more than what's been put on you, and has the feel of a speed lynch.


Are you talking to yourself now?

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:45 PM

Er, yeah, what is that? Are Eloth and Omtose the same person?

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:46 PM

Yes you did Telas:

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

it also suggests to me that you have a name that is NOT in the OP, which thus would mean you are not the Bat or a CL. Or, on the other hand, you are, but did a really really silly thing, rather than just a silly thing ;)


Unless you really believe there is a 6th faction, in which case you are just doing the worst kind of fearmongering

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:46 PM

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

The way I see it, we've already had a town death today. A wrong lynch would mean two town deaths before night's even begun. So if I'm not convinced by a case, i won't vote on it - and I'm not convinced by the one on Eloth.


You're advocating a no lynch?

It shouldn't be if you're NOT convinced by a case. Unless you're extremely convinced in the person's (Eloth's) innocence, you should want to vote before time out. I'm not particularly convinced in Eloth's likelihood to be scum anymore, but I'm not at all convinced he's innocent either. He's middle ground, and that's still a 5/21 chance to get someone good, yeah?

A no lynch would be bad, unless you have information I don't.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:46 PM

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View PostFener, on 05 June 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 05 June 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 05 June 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Hmm, I read it that BM nominates a successor, who's only informed of their change in role if BM kicks the bucket.


I'd like some clarification on the successor bit, if possible PS.

Just finished my morning catch-up and am chewing on a couple of the new cases.

Telas building a case on anyone who was gunning for Osseric when Joker put him out there is interesting. Personally I was just going off of what little information we had at that time and trying to make a bit of sense from it. I understand that if the Joker was Osseric, he probably wouldn't want to put his name out there like that, drawing attention. I would WIFOM on that all day, but instead I'll just assume that's what happened. Seeing as the CL would have no clue who BM is, and no clue who each other are, Osseric is most likely just a random name with a 4/21 chance of being either a CL or BM. This is the same chance that any name would have assuming a CL threw out a name that was not theres. So, there is not really much evidence that Oss is anything other than a random name.


Ok, this is Ano's response when I put his name out there as one of three interested in seeing an Osseric lynch. Here he says that he's pretty much convinced Osseric is just a random name thrown out by the Joker, and very unlikely to be the Joker himself. But that's not really what he said earlier:



View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 05 June 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Ok, so I finally actually caught up.

Here are my thoughts.

If town needs to have more than any of the cults for a victory at bowel movement's time of death, then taking out one of the leaders wouldn't be a bad idea.

So we have joker pointing at Osseric as bowel movement. I don't see how Joker could have any idea who bowel movement is, so possibly A) Joker really does think that Oss is bowel movement and would like to see him taken down a life. B--) (Sorry for dashes, trying to avoid a smiley appearing instead) The Joker thinks that Oss is one of the other cult leaders and wants to toss some heat on him. C) The joker is actually Oss, and put his own name in there to throw townsfolk off (or just as a joke). And finally D) Oss is just a random-ass name that the joker threw in.

Thoughts anyone? I'm physically exhausted after reading/posting this. Ill check back later.

I don't think I've ever seen a WIFOM statement as blatant as the Joker's "Osseric is the Batman" statement. As you say, there's no way the Joker can have any legitimate knowledge of who the Batman is at this point, so I don't see why there's any reason to treat his pronouncements with more strength than if a random player tossed out the opinion "I think Osseric is the Batman" without any evidence to back it up - eg. none.




So basically your logic (which I think is totally sound) destroys my option B and A. So now I'm down to Osseric is a random name thrown, likely, or Joker is osseric. I may thrown a vote on him if I'm not wholly convinced he isnt joker further into day 1.



Here he doesn't sound anywhere near as convinced that Osseric is not the Joker as he does in the later post. Here he still sounds like he would be very willing to vote Osseric. What happened in the meantime? Not much as far as I know, aside from Ano's name being pointed out as being interested in an Osseric lynch - which he then distances himself from ever wanting in his response.


Here you are, Omtose.


OK that is odd. He does look like he's backpedalling.


Personally I don't think its any more than what's been put on you, and has the feel of a speed lynch.


Are you replying to yourself? Or what is going on here?


I was adding an additional comment to you. Is that so confusing?

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:47 PM

Omtose is commenting twice on the same post. OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Seriously, it's not that weird

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:47 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

Yes you did Telas:

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

it also suggests to me that you have a name that is NOT in the OP, which thus would mean you are not the Bat or a CL. Or, on the other hand, you are, but did a really really silly thing, rather than just a silly thing ;)


Unless you really believe there is a 6th faction, in which case you are just doing the worst kind of fearmongering


Independent, you silly. The OP clearly states known major villains.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:47 PM

Eloth and Omtose are 2face, ya think?

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:47 PM

It is Day 1. 13 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

10 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Omtose, Korbas, Ampelas, Fener)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
2 votes for Meanas (Spite, D'riss)
1 vote for D'riss(Atrahal)
2 vote for Anomandaris (Eloth, Telas)

-Liz
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:48 PM

View PostFener, on 05 June 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

20 minutes left. I don't see this swinging around to anyone else, and honestly, not sure if that would be wise anyway. Even if the case on Ano or Amp is decent, and I myself prefer lynching Meanas over Eloth, we've fucked ourselves with time constraints.

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Oh well. My first hour prediction that we'd reach lynch consensus in the last few minutes of the day is true, as well as it being for a bullshit case.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:48 PM

Hehe

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:48 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Omtose is commenting twice on the same post. OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Seriously, it's not that weird


Yeah, but the two comments appear to express two different opinions....

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:48 PM

Alright, 13 minutes left. Getting voting. 2 more.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:50 PM

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Omtose is commenting twice on the same post. OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Seriously, it's not that weird


Yeah, but the two comments appear to express two different opinions....



Are you serious? I said yeah that might be something BUT that it was no more than the case already on Eloth so wasn't worth voting on this close to a lynch.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:50 PM

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Omtose is commenting twice on the same post. OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Seriously, it's not that weird


Yeah, but the two comments appear to express two different opinions....

Maybe he tossed a coin. Twice.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:52 PM

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

Yes you did Telas:

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

it also suggests to me that you have a name that is NOT in the OP, which thus would mean you are not the Bat or a CL. Or, on the other hand, you are, but did a really really silly thing, rather than just a silly thing ;)


Unless you really believe there is a 6th faction, in which case you are just doing the worst kind of fearmongering


Independent, you silly. The OP clearly states known major villains.


Oh my god you really were serious. I should have just stopped listening to anything you said right there, then...

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:52 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

Yes you did Telas:

View PostTelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

it also suggests to me that you have a name that is NOT in the OP, which thus would mean you are not the Bat or a CL. Or, on the other hand, you are, but did a really really silly thing, rather than just a silly thing ;)


Unless you really believe there is a 6th faction, in which case you are just doing the worst kind of fearmongering


Independent, you silly. The OP clearly states known major villains.


Oh my god you really were serious. I should have just stopped listening to anything you said right there, then...


You definitely should have stopped digging yourself into a deeper hole, yes. And independent doesn't mean faction leader.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:53 PM

The Amp and Telas posts are almost as funny as the Korbas and Atrahal ones were.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:54 PM

Ment, Liz, it is not too late to rename the game Arkham Asylum. 'Cause there's a bunch of real weirdos and crazies surrounding me.

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