[Emurlahn]

Korbas, on 11 June 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Ha ha look back to day one I was one of the higher posters when I had time, I had as many posts as you Korbas, then I didn't have much time throughout the week. Now I do. As I also said on Friday, go back and check if you like. I purposefully didn't vote yesterday so that i'd get the cache today.

@ Underlined.

I don't like this mechanic, if it's the true one. Very counterproductive.

I only listened to what Galain said. It could be someone dishing out cache's though although it says I stumbled across it?

[Telas]

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Telas, on 11 June 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Korbas, on 11 June 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

All those thoughts came throughout the day. I've been at my computer all day and had various points to make.

Answer me why you'd think i'd mention a cache? If you look I haven't had much heat at all. I could've stayed low but 1] I have more time to play now and 2] i was getting worried about d day for town.

Now for you to jump onto something so small it makes you look dodgy as hell. Your post leader and have had a strong town vibe all game, people listen to you so you are definately a good choice for Batman. Spite had to pick someone she thinks could win as Batman. Unless she picked someone she disliked. Galain would've also been a good choice but not because he is a thread leader but he is good at talking defense!

Heh.

Well, to be fair, you posted about the cache after I already accused you. A very easy reaction for an overeager player. I know I've suffered from overreacting in the past. *The Hamlet* cough cough.

Anyhow, the way you're reacting is making you look scummy. Not the defense, I like people who defend themselves. But the obvious OMGUS, with the line "Now for you to jump onto something so small it makes you look dodgy...". I didn't really jump onto it. I didn't push a case at all. Then you go ahead and accuse me.

Eh.

The cache thing proves nothing. He says wait till the next day and he can prove it. Which to my paranoid mind is screaming "I just need a day and I'm almost there!!". I also don't like the thing he threw in about each Batman having to do his own work - that's just not how succession works usually when you take on the very same character. It just made me think he's trying to convince us that we have more time than we actually do.

Paranoia galore here.There are two CL's alive though??? How is it D day? Also BM has two more lives. It's not D day at all.

Errr, I never said it was?!


But we just don't know what Batman's powers are. If he already knows who the remaining CLs might be, then it may not take him as long as we think to take them out. Half the challenge is simply in finding the CLs after all.

[Emurlahn]

Telas, on 11 June 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Ha ha look back to day one I was one of the higher posters when I had time, I had as many posts as you Korbas, then I didn't have much time throughout the week. Now I do. As I also said on Friday, go back and check if you like. I purposefully didn't vote yesterday so that i'd get the cache today.

Yet another reason why Batman might choose you - you have an alibi of sorts.

Ha ha you make me laugh.

I can only see it benefitting BM if you want me lynched, I am still useful to both CL's as I can be recruited. I guess they'll know if I'm BM because I wouldn't be able to be recruited, Pow!! That's why I think Batman is fucked, he has to select another successor out of a small pool of players, the recruiters need to recruit town out of a small number of players also. If someone is unrecruitable then wouldn't that make them Batman?

[Emurlahn]

Right Bed.

[Korbas]

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

Korbas, on 11 June 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Ha ha look back to day one I was one of the higher posters when I had time, I had as many posts as you Korbas, then I didn't have much time throughout the week. Now I do. As I also said on Friday, go back and check if you like. I purposefully didn't vote yesterday so that i'd get the cache today.

@ Underlined.

I don't like this mechanic, if it's the true one. Very counterproductive.

I only listened to what Galain said. It could be someone dishing out cache's though although it says I stumbled across it?

I was complaining @ ment, not you. Not a huge deal (again, assuming this is true), I just don't like mechanics that discourage playing the game well.

[Telas]

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

Telas, on 11 June 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Ha ha look back to day one I was one of the higher posters when I had time, I had as many posts as you Korbas, then I didn't have much time throughout the week. Now I do. As I also said on Friday, go back and check if you like. I purposefully didn't vote yesterday so that i'd get the cache today.

Yet another reason why Batman might choose you - you have an alibi of sorts.

Ha ha you make me laugh.

I can only see it benefitting BM if you want me lynched, I am still useful to both CL's as I can be recruited. I guess they'll know if I'm BM because I wouldn't be able to be recruited, Pow!! That's why I think Batman is fucked, he has to select another successor out of a small pool of players, the recruiters need to recruit town out of a small number of players also. If someone is unrecruitable then wouldn't that make them Batman?

You make a good point actually. Poison Ivy's already voiced off, but does Penguin want to say anything? Did you try and recruit anyone and it failed?

[Emurlahn]

Korbas, on 11 June 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

Korbas, on 11 June 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Ha ha look back to day one I was one of the higher posters when I had time, I had as many posts as you Korbas, then I didn't have much time throughout the week. Now I do. As I also said on Friday, go back and check if you like. I purposefully didn't vote yesterday so that i'd get the cache today.

@ Underlined.

I don't like this mechanic, if it's the true one. Very counterproductive.

I only listened to what Galain said. It could be someone dishing out cache's though although it says I stumbled across it?

I was complaining @ ment, not you. Not a huge deal (again, assuming this is true), I just don't like mechanics that discourage playing the game well.

I would've voted if it was needed for the lynch but Galain was holding off and said he would vote and other people were able to vote also. Normally I vote everyday so yesterday was a first.

Atrahal didn't vote day one when we needed the lynch. Do you think he had prior knowledge of this mechanic beforehand?

[Telas]

Yeah, bed for me too.

[Omtose]

Atrahal said:

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Woo-hoo! We got one!
I think we are in a pretty healthy position right now, compared to where we were only 24 hours ago. Eloth's self-sacrifice, whatever the reasons behind it, could only be good for us, after all.

FYI, I acquired a knife at the end of night 2, and attempted to use it in night 3. PS tells me that my action was taken into account when resolving night 3, but as there were no NKs, it seems my target was guarded. In my view, there's really no reason for a townie to choose a guard ability, so I'm leaning towards my target being a CL.

And that target was D'riss.

Vote D'riss

D said:

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I had Atrahal try to smoke me out of the blue. It happens.

OK. This stands out as a possible CL. We were all focused on getting BM yesterday, but this looks like a reasonable case.
Vote D'riss

[D'riss]

If I'm a CL, you want to waste a day blowing my LP?

I'm not by the way, so it wouldn't happen, but I find it weird you've flipped the switch to want to get a CL so badly all of a sudden.

[Omtose]

Just trying to get folks talking. Reviewing Telas and Rashans post times will take a while. What is best for town? BM or CL?

[D'riss]

I already stated two Bat Jumps are more formidable and with 2 (would be one if I was a CL and you got your way) CLs left Batman is having his job done for him, in spades, by town and cult trying to identify Batman.

[Karosis]

Path-Shaper, on 11 June 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

A good morning message from Poison Ivy.

Quote

Good morning meatbags, life's been pretty boring in my little copse of trees, so I sent Bane out to kill Galain and Emurlahn last night. They have both survived, so take that as you will!

-Liz

I'm loathe to play into the hands of a CL at this point, given that I think the game is getting to the stage where our interests diverge. I mean, what kind of mechanic is "sending out Bane", anyway? She said before that Rashan was Bane, IIRC. So how does PI get Rashan to kill who she wants to kill? Unless there's some mechanic going on here that I'm not privy to, this seems unlikely and I'm inclined to distrust it. But then again, I didn't believe Eloth when he said that CLs had a lynch BP either...



On the other hand, I do like the idea behind going after a known recruit. Seems like exactly where a Batman would want to be. Assuming he could get away with it, it might allow him to use that extra knowledge to scalp a CL. Plus, it fits nicely into the tactical paradigm I was suggesting earlier in which we look for people who are either Cult players or the Batman. My initial reaction was that Telas was a more likely pick than Rashan (just because of the visibility standpoint), but I suspect that's just because we've been squabbling. Will try to get in a read through in tomorrow to make my decision a bit more informed.

[Karosis]

Omtose, on 11 June 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

Just trying to get folks talking. Reviewing Telas and Rashans post times will take a while. What is best for town? BM or CL?

BM or Cult Recruits are good for town at this stage, I think. Not CLs though - got to keep them hidden to prevent the Batman from winning.

[Rashan]

Hi everyone, sorry for the incredibly small amount of posting I`ve done in the last few days. Just got home from visiting the family for the weekend, stayed an extra day, blah blah blah. Anyway, I am back, and I have to do a more thorough thread read, but as my CL has pointed out, I have been recruited. I was told that I was given a special ability because I was Poison Ivy's captain, but that only she could control it. Essentially, she turns on my venom and I try to kill two people.

Obviously, Poison Ivy is my CL, so I am going to go after one of the two she has suggested.

Vote Emurlahn

He has been the shiftier of the two, though it would be a good move by Batman to make someone who has been claiming to have a shield his descendant or whatever, so I am going to be keeping a close eye on Galain as well.

[Karosis]

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

Telas, on 11 June 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

Okay Korbas, why is Emur Batman? I was actually going to point out that Emur ignoring the Shelly death as a possible Batman kill could mean that he now knows it wasn't Batman...but then Emur came up with the cache of weapons stuff. Although that does nothing yet but prove that Emur was a townie, which we knew before from when he shot Eloth (or that he pays attention to the thread ).

I forgot about Shelly. Although I am still uncertain as to whether BM killed them. If CL's have killing powers which they could have then why would a rival CL not take out Shelly? Shelly was being rather annoying and one of the broadcasts did point to her and me.

I cannot be BM. Not today anyway. I have a gun that I can used tomorrow. IF I was BM I wouldn't want to just buy one more day as this would see me taken out tomorrow if you don't see the gun used. The BM HAS to die twice more. If I was one death then that'd make it harder for the last BM to win the game.

Having a gun that can be used tomorrow is not good enough to prove you're not the Batman. Remember how Spite was coming up with all those scenarios about keeping him alive another night in order to prove his innocence? Well that's what you sound like when you try to pull stuff like this. If you're going to provide proof, it has to be today. You have been sounding very shifty since the thread re-opened, as others have said. Also, I noticed you lying, which makes me suspicious:

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

I would've voted if it was needed for the lynch but Galain was holding off and said he would vote and other people were able to vote also. Normally I vote everyday so yesterday was a first.

Atrahal didn't vote day one when we needed the lynch. Do you think he had prior knowledge of this mechanic beforehand?

And yet you shot Eloth on Day 3. In order to have done that, you must have had a cache. You believe Galain's logic about only getting the Cache if you're not on the lynch train, so in order to have got that cache you would have had to have not been on a train. There is a clear contradiction between that and the underlined.

[Karosis]

Anyway, I need an earlier night than last night, so I'm heading off. Tomorrow I shall be looking into Telas, Emurlahn and Rashan in more detail.

[Galain]

Did anyone else think it was really weird that Emur was talking about needing both the CL's dead for town to win? I'll find the quote in a minute, but...



Also, he called ME quiet, when I have almost twice his post-count. Yeah, nice try, bro. Talk about throwing up a shitstorm, it's no wonder he garnered a vote after just one post.


And, uhm...I don't know how you guys are going to take this, but...pending confirmation...I haven't lost my BP. *sigh*

[Galain]

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

*snip*

If we get the BM again then the CL's may make a play against each other. How about a proposal to the BM. We have to kill you twice to have any hope of winning but we also have to kill CL twice also. If you come clean who you are we don't lynch you today and we go for a CL. Then once one of them have gone we lynch you and then go for another CL.

*snip*

This is the quote. It's not quite outright claiming we need to kill the CLs to win, but it does suggest that we need to kill the CLs.

1. DUDE. SPEED IS TOWN'S ALLY. The faster we kill the Batman, the better. *Unless* a cult achieves plurality before we can possibly kill the Batman. In which case we're fucked because, afaik, we still don't know if recruits switch back to town at the death of their CL or if they can win without a CL.

2. We go for a CL, then we lynch the Batman, then we go for another CL? IDIOT. THAT WOULD HAND THE BATMAN THE GAME. IF BOTH CLs DIE, HE WINS.

3. You're suddenly so much more active today, spamming the thread, showing that you were clearly just a bored RI earlier. Now that you're either recruited (can't see that as enough reason, honestly) or the Batman, you're suddenly involved to the max, posting lots of ideas, but also tripping over your own lack of attention from days gone past.

Ergo, pretty sure Emur is the fricking Batman. Unless anyone has good reason why he's suddenly playing and revealing counter-town thoughts all over the place?

Vote Emurlahn

[Omtose]

Galain, on 11 June 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 June 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

*snip*

If we get the BM again then the CL's may make a play against each other. How about a proposal to the BM. We have to kill you twice to have any hope of winning but we also have to kill CL twice also. If you come clean who you are we don't lynch you today and we go for a CL. Then once one of them have gone we lynch you and then go for another CL.

*snip*

This is the quote. It's not quite outright claiming we need to kill the CLs to win, but it does suggest that we need to kill the CLs.

1. DUDE. SPEED IS TOWN'S ALLY. The faster we kill the Batman, the better. *Unless* a cult achieves plurality before we can possibly kill the Batman. In which case we're fucked because, afaik, we still don't know if recruits switch back to town at the death of their CL or if they can win without a CL.

2. We go for a CL, then we lynch the Batman, then we go for another CL? IDIOT. THAT WOULD HAND THE BATMAN THE GAME. IF BOTH CLs DIE, HE WINS.

3. You're suddenly so much more active today, spamming the thread, showing that you were clearly just a bored RI earlier. Now that you're either recruited (can't see that as enough reason, honestly) or the Batman, you're suddenly involved to the max, posting lots of ideas, but also tripping over your own lack of attention from days gone past.

Ergo, pretty sure Emur is the fricking Batman. Unless anyone has good reason why he's suddenly playing and revealing counter-town thoughts all over the place?

Vote Emurlahn

Good point. We need to be sure about this.

Remove Vote

Let me take a closer look at this.