[Fener]

Sheltatha Lore, on 29 April 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

Rashan, on 29 April 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

So Ampleas and Kalse only have 1 post. I know I don't have many either, but come tomorrow i'll be around a lot more so should be fine.

vote Ampleas

low low posting is a good place for zombies to hide.

I agree that low posting is probably a really good place for the zombies to hide. In a game like this it seems that a low poster hunt is a decent strategy.


Vote Kalse

I find this odd. Someone suggests a low poster hunt and shows who they'd rather vote by voting, then you go and vote for someone else, yet still on the premise of low-posting? That seems counter productive, as neither has done anything more suspicious than the other, this just splits up the votes, making it less likely that either lynch will happen, because as i've found, 2 votes are more convincing than 1 to a potential voter when it comes to the beginning of what could become a train.

[Korvalain]

Liosan, on 29 April 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

To be coldly analytic, if Galain is a leader, his fate is sealed. The VC for the Lone Avenger stipulates he must kill at least one leader. Without that team having a medic, that leader is toast.

What I would say is if Galain is a leader, either someone protect him to let him keep finding or at least have him give us his find from last night (only if it was a zombie or the voodoo priest, I wouldn't really want the other human characters to be revealed creating targets for the zombies) so that we can have a target for today's lynch. He does still have some teammates left after all.

Right now, Eloth is making my gut itch. He expressed strong reservations over voting for Sorrit. However, he drops a vote with the line I won't be back before time out. Nothing else. No justification, no "sorry but this is the only lynch that will get the numbers," etc. Also I figure, since someone else mentioned Twelve's personal ability to "sniff" out roles early on, we should test at least one of his picks for zombies, and Eloth seems like a good choice to me.

Vote Eloth

I agree that in this game the drive-by feels particularly wrong. I have to say that Twelve was wrong at least as far as I'm concerned, so at least that hunch was incorrect.

Fener, on 29 April 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 29 April 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

Rashan, on 29 April 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

So Ampleas and Kalse only have 1 post. I know I don't have many either, but come tomorrow i'll be around a lot more so should be fine.

vote Ampleas

low low posting is a good place for zombies to hide.

I agree that low posting is probably a really good place for the zombies to hide. In a game like this it seems that a low poster hunt is a decent strategy.


Vote Kalse

I find this odd. Someone suggests a low poster hunt and shows who they'd rather vote by voting, then you go and vote for someone else, yet still on the premise of low-posting? That seems counter productive, as neither has done anything more suspicious than the other, this just splits up the votes, making it less likely that either lynch will happen, because as i've found, 2 votes are more convincing than 1 to a potential voter when it comes to the beginning of what could become a train.

Yeah, I don't get this either, unless Ampelas is on Sheltatha's team?

[Mockra]

Sheltatha Lore, on 29 April 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

Liosan, on 29 April 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

To be coldly analytic, if Galain is a leader, his fate is sealed. The VC for the Lone Avenger stipulates he must kill at least one leader. Without that team having a medic, that leader is toast.

What I would say is if Galain is a leader, either someone protect him to let him keep finding or at least have him give us his find from last night (only if it was a zombie or the voodoo priest, I wouldn't really want the other human characters to be revealed creating targets for the zombies) so that we can have a target for today's lynch. He does still have some teammates left after all.

Right now, Eloth is making my gut itch. He expressed strong reservations over voting for Sorrit. However, he drops a vote with the line I won't be back before time out. Nothing else. No justification, no "sorry but this is the only lynch that will get the numbers," etc. Also I figure, since someone else mentioned Twelve's personal ability to "sniff" out roles early on, we should test at least one of his picks for zombies, and Eloth seems like a good choice to me.

Vote Eloth

I don't know how well I am trusting of twelves gut for this game. During the sign up he said that he wasn't going to have a lot of time to play. If you look at his style of play for day 1 it was even more abrasive then usual. I think that he was actively trying to get himself lynched or killed off at night. I don't know if he was as actively trying to figure out the different dynamics of the game as he usually is.

One thing that I am wondering is if the zombie horde can vote. I doubt that all of the zombies votes can count. Otherwise they will have a huge voting majority. I think that either a zombie can only vote with one of his alts at a time. So by day 3 we should have enough info off of the proceeding lynch trains to start to narrow down the potential list.

I'm not sure I'm convinced about the zombie non-voting thing. On the surface, it seems reasonable, gives the game a fair few days to shape out before any concrete deductions can be made about who can or cannot vote. However, this is a massive game with lots of players even if you discount the zombie horde. This might turn into a 10+ day game (we all expected a bloodbath night 1, but it didn't happen - so who's to say that there will be one), in which case knowing whether someone can or cannot vote already by the 3rd day doesn't sound very balanced to me. I know that on the other side having a voting block of ten doesn't sound balanced either, but if there are two controllers or head zombies or whatever who don't know each other or can't communicate then that makes it harder to fashion a voting block.

[Mockra]

Serc, on 29 April 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

No, I agree completely to the importance of taking out Zombies. And if we can somehow be sure as to someone we think IS or at least have a pretty high suspicion, then we should take them out. But they seem to be laying low, in my opinion. So if by the end of day two if we can't isolate a zombie target I would suggest taking out another member of a faction who is already down two. Seems a safe kill to me. But I was also wondering if you are suggesting that we spend all our time taking out zombies until they are all dead before targeting anyone or anything else?

Human Faction VCs: To be the last faction standing.


I'm not saying this suggests that you're not part of a faction, or maybe you're just part of the BBs, I dont know. That's not where Im going with this. Im just wondering if it wouldnt be a quicker way to victory by taking out the other factions as quickly as possible. But to be honest, its hard to say at this point.


I suggest we go for what seems to be the most SURE target. If we are more sure weve found a zombie, we take it out. If not we can take down each others factions in the stead, especially if we have a really strong suspicion like Galain's seeming connection to Sorrit, who might also be a Faction Leader. Because you said it could be either Sergeant Daniel Jackson - Sergeant of the squad BurnBridgers OR Corporal Mike Horvath - second in command of the BurnBridgers that Sorrit knew as part of his faction. But seeing as he was a dog, a PET, to the Sergeant, I'd say odds are if he knew someone he'd HAVE to know his master, who is also the man who found him (Benny - a border-collie who Sergeant Jackson found after becoming stranded, and decided to bring with him because of his sense of smell.)

If Galain IS a Faction Leader for BBs, then everyone from both other factions, zombies, The Lone Avenger, Survivor, and even the Voodoo Master would all benefit from this.


But I'm more willing to see where everyone else stands before I commit to anything just yet.

I think we can safely conclude that Serc is NOT in the BurnBridgers....I really don't like the way he's trying to coax us towards a possible human faction lynch already. Serc knows full well that unless a finder comes out and reveals themselves to say that they've found a zombie, there is hardly any possible way we'll be "SURE" (capital letters SURE) of a zombie lynch. In effect, that 'suggestion' is pretty much unworkable from the beginning - which of course automatically leads us back to the thought of lynching Galain. Notice that we can't be SURE of Galain's affiliation either, and yet Serc is pretty much taking that for granted.

[Korvalain]

Mockra, on 30 April 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 29 April 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

Liosan, on 29 April 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

To be coldly analytic, if Galain is a leader, his fate is sealed. The VC for the Lone Avenger stipulates he must kill at least one leader. Without that team having a medic, that leader is toast.

What I would say is if Galain is a leader, either someone protect him to let him keep finding or at least have him give us his find from last night (only if it was a zombie or the voodoo priest, I wouldn't really want the other human characters to be revealed creating targets for the zombies) so that we can have a target for today's lynch. He does still have some teammates left after all.

Right now, Eloth is making my gut itch. He expressed strong reservations over voting for Sorrit. However, he drops a vote with the line I won't be back before time out. Nothing else. No justification, no "sorry but this is the only lynch that will get the numbers," etc. Also I figure, since someone else mentioned Twelve's personal ability to "sniff" out roles early on, we should test at least one of his picks for zombies, and Eloth seems like a good choice to me.

Vote Eloth

I don't know how well I am trusting of twelves gut for this game. During the sign up he said that he wasn't going to have a lot of time to play. If you look at his style of play for day 1 it was even more abrasive then usual. I think that he was actively trying to get himself lynched or killed off at night. I don't know if he was as actively trying to figure out the different dynamics of the game as he usually is.

One thing that I am wondering is if the zombie horde can vote. I doubt that all of the zombies votes can count. Otherwise they will have a huge voting majority. I think that either a zombie can only vote with one of his alts at a time. So by day 3 we should have enough info off of the proceeding lynch trains to start to narrow down the potential list.

I'm not sure I'm convinced about the zombie non-voting thing. On the surface, it seems reasonable, gives the game a fair few days to shape out before any concrete deductions can be made about who can or cannot vote. However, this is a massive game with lots of players even if you discount the zombie horde. This might turn into a 10+ day game (we all expected a bloodbath night 1, but it didn't happen - so who's to say that there will be one), in which case knowing whether someone can or cannot vote already by the 3rd day doesn't sound very balanced to me. I know that on the other side having a voting block of ten doesn't sound balanced either, but if there are two controllers or head zombies or whatever who don't know each other or can't communicate then that makes it harder to fashion a voting block.

Zombies being unable to vote is just random speculation IMO. I almost wonder if this is a red herring, since I think all of the alts ought to be able to vote. Until we start seeing a pattern of non-voting, I will assume all are capable.

[Serc]

Mockra, on 30 April 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

Serc, on 29 April 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

No, I agree completely to the importance of taking out Zombies. And if we can somehow be sure as to someone we think IS or at least have a pretty high suspicion, then we should take them out. But they seem to be laying low, in my opinion. So if by the end of day two if we can't isolate a zombie target I would suggest taking out another member of a faction who is already down two. Seems a safe kill to me. But I was also wondering if you are suggesting that we spend all our time taking out zombies until they are all dead before targeting anyone or anything else?

Human Faction VCs: To be the last faction standing.


I'm not saying this suggests that you're not part of a faction, or maybe you're just part of the BBs, I dont know. That's not where Im going with this. Im just wondering if it wouldnt be a quicker way to victory by taking out the other factions as quickly as possible. But to be honest, its hard to say at this point.


I suggest we go for what seems to be the most SURE target. If we are more sure weve found a zombie, we take it out. If not we can take down each others factions in the stead, especially if we have a really strong suspicion like Galain's seeming connection to Sorrit, who might also be a Faction Leader. Because you said it could be either Sergeant Daniel Jackson - Sergeant of the squad BurnBridgers OR Corporal Mike Horvath - second in command of the BurnBridgers that Sorrit knew as part of his faction. But seeing as he was a dog, a PET, to the Sergeant, I'd say odds are if he knew someone he'd HAVE to know his master, who is also the man who found him (Benny - a border-collie who Sergeant Jackson found after becoming stranded, and decided to bring with him because of his sense of smell.)

If Galain IS a Faction Leader for BBs, then everyone from both other factions, zombies, The Lone Avenger, Survivor, and even the Voodoo Master would all benefit from this.


But I'm more willing to see where everyone else stands before I commit to anything just yet.

I think we can safely conclude that Serc is NOT in the BurnBridgers....I really don't like the way he's trying to coax us towards a possible human faction lynch already. Serc knows full well that unless a finder comes out and reveals themselves to say that they've found a zombie, there is hardly any possible way we'll be "SURE" (capital letters SURE) of a zombie lynch. In effect, that 'suggestion' is pretty much unworkable from the beginning - which of course automatically leads us back to the thought of lynching Galain. Notice that we can't be SURE of Galain's affiliation either, and yet Serc is pretty much taking that for granted.

No, I see and agree with everyone who's expressed the need to turn our focus elsewhere. That's why I didn't commit to anything and even said id wait to hear what others thought.

As of right now it seems were leaning towards low post count. Well just have to wait for more information or posts.

Someone also said we should hold off on killing factions just yet because the paired killers might be able to help kill zombies. What does everyone think of this. During the night scene it appeared as if each pair of human killers successfully found a member of one of the other factions, even if none succeeded. The pair that would have found the dead Medic may have succeeded if not already killed by zombies. It's not a major point, but it seems the human killers are targeting humans. And are Ble to locate someone of another faction without risk of killing one of their own.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. The clock has been frozen with 35 Hours and 59 Minutes remaining.
30 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Kalse, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shelthata Lore, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

16 votes to lynch, 15 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ampelas ( Emurlahn, Rashan )
1 Vote for Eloth ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Fener ( Olar Ethil )
1 Vote for Kalse ( Shelthata Lore )
1 Vote for Korbas ( Anomandaris )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galain, Kalse, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Osseric, Ruse, Serc, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

[Osseric]

In a game like this putting pressure on low posters is crucial and I think there is merit in the idea that a low post count and posts with votes that don't seem to have any back up, or seem to be following other alts are possible hiding places for zombie alts and I agree that going after a weakened human faction as things stand seems too dangerous since we have not seen any zombie deaths.


Serc you make a strange point about the killers seeming to target humans, are you assuming the killers know that it is humans that they are targeting? It is always a risk to have killers alive in the game but the zombies are the most dangerous faction and I don't know why the killers would target people they thought were humans at this point, other faction or not, when the most important thing is to put the zombies at a disadvantage and make it harder for them to be able to recruit. In saying that having a weakened faction with another possible member already exposed is dangerous where that is concerned too, especially with the healer gone. Though we don't know for sure Galain is in that faction and to put too much faith in him being an inno at this point is foolish as well.



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This post has been edited by Osseric: 30 April 2012 - 02:00 AM

[Serc]

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

In a game like this putting pressure on low posters is crucial and I think there is merit in the idea that a low post count and posts with votes that don't seem to have any back up, or seem to be following other alts are possible hiding places for zombie alts and I agree that going after a weakened human faction as things stand seems too dangerous since we have not seen any zombie deaths.


Serc you make a strange point about the killers seeming to target humans, are you assuming the killers know that it is humans that they are targeting? It is always a risk to have killers alive in the game but the zombies are the most dangerous faction and I don't know why the killers would target people they thought were humans at this point, other faction or not, when the most important thing is to put the zombies at a disadvantage and make it harder for them to be able to recruit. In saying that having a weakened faction with another possible member already exposed is dangerous where that is concerned too, especially with the healer gone. Though we don't know for sure Galain is in that faction and to put too much faith in him being an inno at this point is foolish as well.



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No, that's what I'm wondering. And that's what I was asking. It seemed to me that the human killers were choosing humans and possibly knowing they were not of their own faction. But I'm asking if that's what everyone else thinks. And like I said I know its not a major issue. Just curious as to what others say.

[Osseric]

Serc, on 30 April 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

In a game like this putting pressure on low posters is crucial and I think there is merit in the idea that a low post count and posts with votes that don't seem to have any back up, or seem to be following other alts are possible hiding places for zombie alts and I agree that going after a weakened human faction as things stand seems too dangerous since we have not seen any zombie deaths.


Serc you make a strange point about the killers seeming to target humans, are you assuming the killers know that it is humans that they are targeting? It is always a risk to have killers alive in the game but the zombies are the most dangerous faction and I don't know why the killers would target people they thought were humans at this point, other faction or not, when the most important thing is to put the zombies at a disadvantage and make it harder for them to be able to recruit. In saying that having a weakened faction with another possible member already exposed is dangerous where that is concerned too, especially with the healer gone. Though we don't know for sure Galain is in that faction and to put too much faith in him being an inno at this point is foolish as well.



Edit - formatting, paragraphs weren't showing up.

No, that's what I'm wondering. And that's what I was asking. It seemed to me that the human killers were choosing humans and possibly knowing they were not of their own faction. But I'm asking if that's what everyone else thinks. And like I said I know its not a major issue. Just curious as to what others say.

I see. Well I get what you are driving at but if they somehow knew that seems to suggest they're a bit overpowered, since they're paired as it is. It's possible I suppose but not something i'd really thought on, I more assumed they'd just been shit at picking targets.

[Spite]

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 02:55 AM, said:

Serc, on 30 April 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

In a game like this putting pressure on low posters is crucial and I think there is merit in the idea that a low post count and posts with votes that don't seem to have any back up, or seem to be following other alts are possible hiding places for zombie alts and I agree that going after a weakened human faction as things stand seems too dangerous since we have not seen any zombie deaths.


Serc you make a strange point about the killers seeming to target humans, are you assuming the killers know that it is humans that they are targeting? It is always a risk to have killers alive in the game but the zombies are the most dangerous faction and I don't know why the killers would target people they thought were humans at this point, other faction or not, when the most important thing is to put the zombies at a disadvantage and make it harder for them to be able to recruit. In saying that having a weakened faction with another possible member already exposed is dangerous where that is concerned too, especially with the healer gone. Though we don't know for sure Galain is in that faction and to put too much faith in him being an inno at this point is foolish as well.



Edit - formatting, paragraphs weren't showing up.

No, that's what I'm wondering. And that's what I was asking. It seemed to me that the human killers were choosing humans and possibly knowing they were not of their own faction. But I'm asking if that's what everyone else thinks. And like I said I know its not a major issue. Just curious as to what others say.

I see. Well I get what you are driving at but if they somehow knew that seems to suggest they're a bit overpowered, since they're paired as it is. It's possible I suppose but not something i'd really thought on, I more assumed they'd just been shit at picking targets.

My bet is they know their team and that's all. It sucks the dog's gone, from his description I'm thinking he was a zombie finder(sense of smell thing).

[Ruse]

Spite, on 30 April 2012 - 03:24 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 02:55 AM, said:

Serc, on 30 April 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

In a game like this putting pressure on low posters is crucial and I think there is merit in the idea that a low post count and posts with votes that don't seem to have any back up, or seem to be following other alts are possible hiding places for zombie alts and I agree that going after a weakened human faction as things stand seems too dangerous since we have not seen any zombie deaths.


Serc you make a strange point about the killers seeming to target humans, are you assuming the killers know that it is humans that they are targeting? It is always a risk to have killers alive in the game but the zombies are the most dangerous faction and I don't know why the killers would target people they thought were humans at this point, other faction or not, when the most important thing is to put the zombies at a disadvantage and make it harder for them to be able to recruit. In saying that having a weakened faction with another possible member already exposed is dangerous where that is concerned too, especially with the healer gone. Though we don't know for sure Galain is in that faction and to put too much faith in him being an inno at this point is foolish as well.



Edit - formatting, paragraphs weren't showing up.

No, that's what I'm wondering. And that's what I was asking. It seemed to me that the human killers were choosing humans and possibly knowing they were not of their own faction. But I'm asking if that's what everyone else thinks. And like I said I know its not a major issue. Just curious as to what others say.

I see. Well I get what you are driving at but if they somehow knew that seems to suggest they're a bit overpowered, since they're paired as it is. It's possible I suppose but not something i'd really thought on, I more assumed they'd just been shit at picking targets.

My bet is they know their team and that's all. It sucks the dog's gone, from his description I'm thinking he was a zombie finder(sense of smell thing).

What is this sense of smell thing? I think someone else talked about it, but I've got no idea where it's coming from.

[Korbas]

Ruse, on 30 April 2012 - 04:09 AM, said:

Spite, on 30 April 2012 - 03:24 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 02:55 AM, said:

Serc, on 30 April 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

In a game like this putting pressure on low posters is crucial and I think there is merit in the idea that a low post count and posts with votes that don't seem to have any back up, or seem to be following other alts are possible hiding places for zombie alts and I agree that going after a weakened human faction as things stand seems too dangerous since we have not seen any zombie deaths.


Serc you make a strange point about the killers seeming to target humans, are you assuming the killers know that it is humans that they are targeting? It is always a risk to have killers alive in the game but the zombies are the most dangerous faction and I don't know why the killers would target people they thought were humans at this point, other faction or not, when the most important thing is to put the zombies at a disadvantage and make it harder for them to be able to recruit. In saying that having a weakened faction with another possible member already exposed is dangerous where that is concerned too, especially with the healer gone. Though we don't know for sure Galain is in that faction and to put too much faith in him being an inno at this point is foolish as well.



Edit - formatting, paragraphs weren't showing up.

No, that's what I'm wondering. And that's what I was asking. It seemed to me that the human killers were choosing humans and possibly knowing they were not of their own faction. But I'm asking if that's what everyone else thinks. And like I said I know its not a major issue. Just curious as to what others say.

I see. Well I get what you are driving at but if they somehow knew that seems to suggest they're a bit overpowered, since they're paired as it is. It's possible I suppose but not something i'd really thought on, I more assumed they'd just been shit at picking targets.

My bet is they know their team and that's all. It sucks the dog's gone, from his description I'm thinking he was a zombie finder(sense of smell thing).

What is this sense of smell thing? I think someone else talked about it, but I've got no idea where it's coming from.

In the OP the dog is said to have been brought along because of its sense of smell. Sounds more like fleshing out the dog's character rather than an active ability. The dog already had a limited bp, plus the lowest possible DR. Sounds like the RI type role of this game. Why add an additional finder ability when each faction leader already has their own? Doesn't really make sense.

As for the killers knowing that they are targetting humans or knowing their whole team, sounds rather over-powered. I'd also say they merely had bad luck in their selections on night 1.

[Serc]

Korbas, on 30 April 2012 - 05:45 AM, said:

Ruse, on 30 April 2012 - 04:09 AM, said:

Spite, on 30 April 2012 - 03:24 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 02:55 AM, said:

Serc, on 30 April 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

In a game like this putting pressure on low posters is crucial and I think there is merit in the idea that a low post count and posts with votes that don't seem to have any back up, or seem to be following other alts are possible hiding places for zombie alts and I agree that going after a weakened human faction as things stand seems too dangerous since we have not seen any zombie deaths.


Serc you make a strange point about the killers seeming to target humans, are you assuming the killers know that it is humans that they are targeting? It is always a risk to have killers alive in the game but the zombies are the most dangerous faction and I don't know why the killers would target people they thought were humans at this point, other faction or not, when the most important thing is to put the zombies at a disadvantage and make it harder for them to be able to recruit. In saying that having a weakened faction with another possible member already exposed is dangerous where that is concerned too, especially with the healer gone. Though we don't know for sure Galain is in that faction and to put too much faith in him being an inno at this point is foolish as well.



Edit - formatting, paragraphs weren't showing up.

No, that's what I'm wondering. And that's what I was asking. It seemed to me that the human killers were choosing humans and possibly knowing they were not of their own faction. But I'm asking if that's what everyone else thinks. And like I said I know its not a major issue. Just curious as to what others say.

I see. Well I get what you are driving at but if they somehow knew that seems to suggest they're a bit overpowered, since they're paired as it is. It's possible I suppose but not something i'd really thought on, I more assumed they'd just been shit at picking targets.

My bet is they know their team and that's all. It sucks the dog's gone, from his description I'm thinking he was a zombie finder(sense of smell thing).

What is this sense of smell thing? I think someone else talked about it, but I've got no idea where it's coming from.

In the OP the dog is said to have been brought along because of its sense of smell. Sounds more like fleshing out the dog's character rather than an active ability. The dog already had a limited bp, plus the lowest possible DR. Sounds like the RI type role of this game. Why add an additional finder ability when each faction leader already has their own? Doesn't really make sense.

As for the killers knowing that they are targetting humans or knowing their whole team, sounds rather over-powered. I'd also say they merely had bad luck in their selections on night 1.

Yeah, but I was thinking it might have been in their abilities to always be able to find a human target from another faction, but perhaps which one is randome. I wasn't really thinking they knew so much. But it does make more sense that it's been poor targeting.

For example, I'm guessing the pair of killers who failed to kill me are still wondering why. I was just wondering if they chose me directly, so I could.......retaliate.

[Ruse]

Am I just failing in reading comprehension? How do you know that you were a killer's target?

[Serc]

Ruse, on 30 April 2012 - 06:59 AM, said:

Am I just failing in reading comprehension? How do you know that you were a killer's target?

People aren't informed if they survived an attack to my knowledge. No one could know this for sure.

[Ruse]

Then why did you say:

Serc, on 30 April 2012 - 06:37 AM, said:

Korbas, on 30 April 2012 - 05:45 AM, said:

Ruse, on 30 April 2012 - 04:09 AM, said:

Spite, on 30 April 2012 - 03:24 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 02:55 AM, said:

Serc, on 30 April 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

Yeah, but I was thinking it might have been in their abilities to always be able to find a human target from another faction, but perhaps which one is randome. I wasn't really thinking they knew so much. But it does make more sense that it's been poor targeting.

For example, I'm guessing the pair of killers who failed to kill me are still wondering why. I was just wondering if they chose me directly, so I could.......retaliate.

Also, nice threat.

[Serc]

Ruse, on 30 April 2012 - 07:31 AM, said:

Then why did you say:

Serc, on 30 April 2012 - 06:37 AM, said:

Korbas, on 30 April 2012 - 05:45 AM, said:

Ruse, on 30 April 2012 - 04:09 AM, said:

Spite, on 30 April 2012 - 03:24 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 02:55 AM, said:

Serc, on 30 April 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

Osseric, on 30 April 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

Yeah, but I was thinking it might have been in their abilities to always be able to find a human target from another faction, but perhaps which one is randome. I wasn't really thinking they knew so much. But it does make more sense that it's been poor targeting.

For example, I'm guessing the pair of killers who failed to kill me are still wondering why. I was just wondering if they chose me directly, so I could.......retaliate.

Also, nice threat.

Shameless bluff.

Based on "unknowable" .....knowledge.

[Serc]

Speaking of "unknowable" knowledge: I believe that Kaschan's DR last night was 0.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. The clock has been frozen with 35 Hours and 59 Minutes remaining.

30 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Kalse, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shelthata Lore, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

16 votes to lynch, 15 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ampelas ( Emurlahn, Rashan )
1 Vote for Eloth ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Fener ( Olar Ethil )
1 Vote for Kalse ( Shelthata Lore )
1 Vote for Korbas ( Anomandaris )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galain, Kalse, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Osseric, Ruse, Serc, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

I have for comfortable reference, included quotes of the end of day/end of night posts by PS (taking out the text, replaced with "End of Day 1") into the OP, so you can get to those posts by clicking the small arrows in the quote window (I don't know how to link posts, but the quote-arrow serves the same purpose).