[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 35 hours and 54 minutes remaining
25 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Kalse, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shelthata Lore, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

13 votes to lynch, 13 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Kalse, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shelthata Lore, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

[Eloth]

A good night for the most part. All leaders are likely open to the lone avenger now though. With three zombie losses recruiting should become more difficult for them. Unfortuneately some of them should have an idea who the voodoo master is if I am reading things correctly. All in all it's a good night for us humans.

[Eloth]

And in retrospect, I am surprised that it was Gust who made that faux pas about the human factions not needing to kill the zombies to win. I've never seen a game with a cult where any other faction could win without eliminating the cult. I had thought he was either a newer player or zombie.

[Karosis]

Good News - 3 zombies deaded
Bad news - no healers left alive.

Pretty good all in all. I shall be on for seveal hours tomorrow, as it is my day off. See you then.

[Anthras]

Eloth, on 02 May 2012 - 03:06 AM, said:

And in retrospect, I am surprised that it was Gust who made that faux pas about the human factions not needing to kill the zombies to win. I've never seen a game with a cult where any other faction could win without eliminating the cult. I had thought he was either a newer player or zombie.

If I recall correctly, the 40k game didn't require for all the factions to wipe out the cult.

Now, is there a zombie willing to reveal so that we can get rid of the voodoo master? he's clearly packin' since he took out 2 zombies by himself, and it looks like that was just in self-defence.

[Anthras]

Atrahal, on 02 May 2012 - 02:44 AM, said:

Well, this isn't too bad, I suppose. I mean the low-poster argument was kind of an excuse to get a lynch anyway.

The Horde took a hit tonight, and it doesn't look like they recruited. btw, who was it that said that one of those three were connected with someone else? I remember it was a few hundred pages back, it was a list of sorts.

And wait...shit. Both of the healers are dead.

sorrit made a bunch of Day 1 lists.

[Anthras]

Also, the 3 killer pairs were busy:
1-failed to kill (again). Or, it was somebeody else who tried, but I think PS is talkig about the same target as last night.
2 - killed the last healer
3 - killed one of the zombies.

[Eloth]

I don't remember the 40K game (I may not have played it), but you could be right there. But, generally standard practive is that normal factions never win until the cult dies.

*waits for the zombie reveal *

[Tulas Shorn]

Hmm, interesting outcomes for lynch and night. While it sucks that we have lost all our healers, the zombies have taken a bit of a beating, which is encouraging.

Thoughts on those zombies labelled as horde?

[Korbas]

Tulas Shorn, on 02 May 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

Hmm, interesting outcomes for lynch and night. While it sucks that we have lost all our healers, the zombies have taken a bit of a beating, which is encouraging.

Thoughts on those zombies labelled as horde?

alt zombies would be my guess. Horde just because no player is actually full-time behind the alt. Makes sense.


I agree with anthras though. Seems like the killers that failed night 1 picked the same target, and missed again. Besides losing the last healer, night was a good turnout for the human factions.

[Tulas Shorn]

Korbas, on 02 May 2012 - 05:57 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 02 May 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

Hmm, interesting outcomes for lynch and night. While it sucks that we have lost all our healers, the zombies have taken a bit of a beating, which is encouraging.

Thoughts on those zombies labelled as horde?

alt zombies would be my guess. Horde just because no player is actually full-time behind the alt. Makes sense.


I agree with anthras though. Seems like the killers that failed night 1 picked the same target, and missed again. Besides losing the last healer, night was a good turnout for the human factions.

I would tend to agree with you.

My new question, how was the healer killed? My guess would be the voodoo priest, that is what the stab wounds and lack of pertinent information would suggest.

This night has left me a lot to chew on.

[Omtose]

Korbas, on 02 May 2012 - 05:57 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 02 May 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

Hmm, interesting outcomes for lynch and night. While it sucks that we have lost all our healers, the zombies have taken a bit of a beating, which is encouraging.

Thoughts on those zombies labelled as horde?

alt zombies would be my guess. Horde just because no player is actually full-time behind the alt. Makes sense.


I agree with anthras though. Seems like the killers that failed night 1 picked the same target, and missed again. Besides losing the last healer, night was a good turnout for the human factions.

Excuse me, what do you mean by full time behind the alt here? Galain was pretty active, and Meanas very much so. If you just mean that the controllers had other alts that they posted through, then that is already completely obvious based on the numbers isn't it? So I'm not sure if you mean something different to that here?

[Omtose]

Tulas Shorn, on 02 May 2012 - 07:15 AM, said:

Korbas, on 02 May 2012 - 05:57 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 02 May 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

Hmm, interesting outcomes for lynch and night. While it sucks that we have lost all our healers, the zombies have taken a bit of a beating, which is encouraging.

Thoughts on those zombies labelled as horde?

alt zombies would be my guess. Horde just because no player is actually full-time behind the alt. Makes sense.


I agree with anthras though. Seems like the killers that failed night 1 picked the same target, and missed again. Besides losing the last healer, night was a good turnout for the human factions.

I would tend to agree with you.

My new question, how was the healer killed? My guess would be the voodoo priest, that is what the stab wounds and lack of pertinent information would suggest.

This night has left me a lot to chew on.

Seems obvious to me that the healer was killed by a killer pair judging from the post. The voodoo guy (based on the figure manipulation) killed off two zombies - but I don't know what the communication with the zombies from the other guy might signify. Survivor perhaps? Coerce and manipulate to victory, as the OP says?

All in all, I'd say this was a very good night for the human factions. My only worry is that if the voodoo guy did manage to off two zombies, does that mean he also collects their pieces or whatever for his ritual? He could be significantly closer to achieving his goal now. Or does he need exclusively living human parts?

[Serc]

Is that how you guys are interpreting the Night Scene, or are you guessing? I'm not disagreeing, I was just trying to figure out what happened, myself.


"Elsewhere, a group of zombies staggered into a sole human. Surely they would catch their pray tonight, with no ghostly apparitions to distract them. But, the prey fumbled with a small figure in his hands, causing one of their Zombie brethren to stumble from the shadows, dragging another through the glass window, down to their deaths. The distraction gave enough time for the human to escape, unharmed."

This paragraph had me thinking that is was more the Priest or Survivor than the VooDoo guy that killed the two zombies in defense.I dont even see the VooDoo master even needing zombies. Seems like he'd need something from the living. Could be wrong. And mainly because the next paragraph sounds more like the VooDoo Master, than this one. And this guy is holding a figure. I guess it could be some sort of VooDoo doll, but it could be a holy relic in the shape of a god as well. But I was thinking that its possible that it was the Survivor with the figure. His description for winning is written "Manipulate and coerce to victory." The method for killing seems like a cohersion of some sort, possibly. Cohersed the Zombie to attack another so he could "survive" by getting away. It's a stretch, just trying to cover all remotely possible explanations. I'd lean more towards the Priest here. Because in the next paragraph:

"Another horde found their target, never noticing they were short a member. But when they reached him, he communicated. The combined might of the Zombies, the hivemind, communicated back. It would not be good to feast upon the flesh of this human now, for he could open the path to a greater feast soon. They left. The zombies were beginning to hunger."

This one had me thinking that the zombies tried to attack the voodoo guy, but he somehow talked to them. And sinse they left convinced this target was going to "open the path to a greater feast," it was this guy that made me think of the voodoo demon summoning. Can't imagine anyone but the VooDoo Master being able to talk to the zombies. Plus he would be the only one with something to offer them. They could feast on every single human if the demon gets summoned, because it says if demon does get summoned, then VooDoo guy leaves, and demon kills all the mortals. Zombie Feast if you ask me. Can't imagine the priest fitting here. This one almost has to be the VooDoo Master, imo.

But there's no telling. I'm still trying to piece it all together. It could have been the voodoo guy in both paragraphs, I guess. Two seperate attacks? First one he kills two. Second time he convinces them to leave him be? I really cant see the VooDoo guy being responsible for the zombie deaths unless he's the same guy that then communicates with the second group. Also seems to be a stretch.

I'd lean towards Priest killing the two zombies(then even Survivor over VooDoo if not), and VooDoo doing the communicating.

Props to PS for the phrasing of scenes so far.

Also wanted to add that I also toyed with the notion that VooDoo might have killed the healer, but we still have 3 pairs of murderers. One failed. One hit Healer. One Hit Zombie. I'd suggest even that it was the Lone Avenger that killed the healer, possibly thinking Liosan a faction leader over VooDoo.

So we're gonna have Priest killing zombies, VooDoo killing any humans, Lone Avenger killing any humans, searching for a leader(although he might benefit killing zombies off with human factions first), and Survivor being the biggest unknown when it comes to his possibilities. Probably leaves VooDoo and Zombies equally as dangerous. Zombies can gank(maybe even gank themselves, who says they cant mistake a target), and VooDoo just needing enough maimed bodies to summon a demon that ends the game while not really having to worry about the zombies IF he was the one able to talk to them.

Wow. I feel like we're going into brain surgery. We need to work out some general consensus on what everyone can hopefully agree really happened.

[Ruse]

Ugh. Just ugh.

[Omtose]

Serc, on 02 May 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

Is that how you guys are interpreting the Night Scene, or are you guessing? I'm not disagreeing, I was just trying to figure out what happened, myself.


"Elsewhere, a group of zombies staggered into a sole human. Surely they would catch their pray tonight, with no ghostly apparitions to distract them. But, the prey fumbled with a small figure in his hands, causing one of their Zombie brethren to stumble from the shadows, dragging another through the glass window, down to their deaths. The distraction gave enough time for the human to escape, unharmed."

This paragraph had me thinking that is was more the Priest or Survivor than the VooDoo guy that killed the two zombies in defense.I dont even see the VooDoo master even needing zombies. Seems like he'd need something from the living. Could be wrong. And mainly because the next paragraph sounds more like the VooDoo Master, than this one. And this guy is holding a figure. I guess it could be some sort of VooDoo doll, but it could be a holy relic in the shape of a god as well. But I was thinking that its possible that it was the Survivor with the figure. His description for winning is written "Manipulate and coerce to victory." The method for killing seems like a cohersion of some sort, possibly. Cohersed the Zombie to attack another so he could "survive" by getting away. It's a stretch, just trying to cover all remotely possible explanations. I'd lean more towards the Priest here. Because in the next paragraph:

"Another horde found their target, never noticing they were short a member. But when they reached him, he communicated. The combined might of the Zombies, the hivemind, communicated back. It would not be good to feast upon the flesh of this human now, for he could open the path to a greater feast soon. They left. The zombies were beginning to hunger."

This one had me thinking that the zombies tried to attack the voodoo guy, but he somehow talked to them. And sinse they left convinced this target was going to "open the path to a greater feast," it was this guy that made me think of the voodoo demon summoning. Can't imagine anyone but the VooDoo Master being able to talk to the zombies. Plus he would be the only one with something to offer them. They could feast on every single human if the demon gets summoned, because it says if demon does get summoned, then VooDoo guy leaves, and demon kills all the mortals. Zombie Feast if you ask me. Can't imagine the priest fitting here. This one almost has to be the VooDoo Master, imo.

But there's no telling. I'm still trying to piece it all together. It could have been the voodoo guy in both paragraphs, I guess. Two seperate attacks? First one he kills two. Second time he convinces them to leave him be? I really cant see the VooDoo guy being responsible for the zombie deaths unless he's the same guy that then communicates with the second group. Also seems to be a stretch.

I'd lean towards Priest killing the two zombies(then even Survivor over VooDoo if not), and VooDoo doing the communicating.

Props to PS for the phrasing of scenes so far.

Also wanted to add that I also toyed with the notion that VooDoo might have killed the healer, but we still have 3 pairs of murderers. One failed. One hit Healer. One Hit Zombie. I'd suggest even that it was the Lone Avenger that killed the healer, possibly thinking Liosan a faction leader over VooDoo.

So we're gonna have Priest killing zombies, VooDoo killing any humans, Lone Avenger killing any humans, searching for a leader(although he might benefit killing zombies off with human factions first), and Survivor being the biggest unknown when it comes to his possibilities. Probably leaves VooDoo and Zombies equally as dangerous. Zombies can gank(maybe even gank themselves, who says they cant mistake a target), and VooDoo just needing enough maimed bodies to summon a demon that ends the game while not really having to worry about the zombies IF he was the one able to talk to them.

Wow. I feel like we're going into brain surgery. We need to work out some general consensus on what everyone can hopefully agree really happened.

Serc, I think we've reached a turning point. Because I think this has been a useful post from you!

Yeah, I agree with your interpretation actually over mine. That is, the figure guy where two zombies died is likely the Survivor, 'manipulating', or the Priest, and the guy who promises more food for the zombies is the Voodoo Master.

[Serc]

The Survivor just needs to be alive when the game ends. Say he helps the VooDoo Master summon the demon, That's game over for humans, right? Is it game over for zombies too? Or do zombies win by default, because demon kills all humans. All except Survivor, who would also win as soon as VooDoo guy won, IF these prove true. So I think the Survivor might have a quickest path to victory by helping VooDoo obtain his goal. But I could be wrong. I dont know if VooDoo needs zombie parts, or if zombies even count. And I dont know if the demon is going to kill all zombies as well as all humans. It just says that the demon will kill all remaining players, after VooDoo guys "leaves" and wins. Defualt win to Survivor? Thoughts? I could be completely wrong, Im just trying to see who would work with who, and who did what in the Night Scene.

Not even applying this to actual players themselves, yet. So only theory of mechanics and info given. I dont feel ready to start sniffing people out intil I hear more opinions on Night Scene, and possible alliances.

[Ruse]

I think it's game over for everyone except the voodoo master. That's how I read it, anyway.

[Serc]

Ruse, on 02 May 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

I think it's game over for everyone except the voodoo master. That's how I read it, anyway.

OK, that would actually make the game more simple. Also makes the most sinse. But I just wanted to make sure. I dont know why I got the idea of the Survivor and VooDoo guy working together in the Night Scene.

And Omtose I wouldnt rule anything out, yet.

I'll admit to confusion at the moment over a few minor details, but still details that might help down the line. I'd rather be safe than sorry, especially sinse its all theoritical mechanics and no concrete accusations yet.

[Serc]

Anyone, only woke up for a bit to eat, going back to bed soon. Figured I'd check and see what was developing. Might be late tonight before I make it back, not sure.