[Path-Shaper]

Hmm, Kate Upton. Not sure what would happen if you put her and the Hedgehog in the same room... probably instant world harmony as they're pretty much each other's opposite. Yin and yang and all that jazz.

On a more serious note:

A few players have found a loop of infinite money that I left in during design and didn't spot. As they'd feed off of one another, the situation would be near perfect symbiosis and reducing other players to figurants.

As such, I am forced to apply the following rule:

No contract with the same terms (regardless of who put it up or reward price) can be offered more than 3 times per day.
No two contracts with the same terms may exist at the same time, regardless of who put it up or reward price.

For those who wonder what it is about, it is the Merrid alignment business.
Merrid: no reveals please

[Path-Shaper]

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 10:53 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 April 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

C8K, First person to put a retainer on the bazaar, and not buy it back, for 4000 dinari will recieve 1000 dinari.
C9L, First person to put 2 Scribes on Bazaar for 2k Ea and not buy them back will receive 1000 dinari


So how do these contracts benefit the person offerring them?

Well, my guess is that the person offering the contracts is giving someone incentive to sell those items by offering cash to list the goods, but theoretically, the player listing the goods could buy them back, I guess...and that would really screw the person who listed the contract. Because they'd have to pay the person who listed the goods, but they wouldn't be able to buy them (which was the entire point of the contract).

I see this popping up again and again.

Please allow me to clarify:

There is no buy-back option on your own stuff.
Once put up for sale, it stays there until the end of the day or until bought by a player who is not you.

[Path-Shaper]

Omtose, on 12 April 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

Omtose, on 12 April 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

And we haven't even talked about Huassan's Riddle of Despair. I think that could be hilarious

I reckon it's possible that someone's already had the item during the previous day, and thus done one of the actions, and now put it on the market for the next person.

Interesting thought, so would the actions happen automatically? Or how would you know which had been completed and which ones were left?

I'm assuming that's the point - you wouldn't. It's a game of chance. You'd go for it if you think that you will survive Assassination. But if it works like other items do (I think all of them do anyway) then it can only be used once per cycle, meaning it will take at least a minimum of five days to activate. Alternatively, it may be possible to use it in more than one phase per cycle.

Edit: changed nights to days

You can use the actions in different cycles. They are player actions, not item actions.

[Path-Shaper]

Whaaat, no PM for 20 minutes? * throws hands up in disgust *

[Kessobahn]

I'm going to have a catch up today and post my thoughts a little later

[Alkend]

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

Omtose, on 12 April 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

Omtose, on 12 April 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

And we haven't even talked about Huassan's Riddle of Despair. I think that could be hilarious

I reckon it's possible that someone's already had the item during the previous day, and thus done one of the actions, and now put it on the market for the next person.

Interesting thought, so would the actions happen automatically? Or how would you know which had been completed and which ones were left?

I'm assuming that's the point - you wouldn't. It's a game of chance. You'd go for it if you think that you will survive Assassination. But if it works like other items do (I think all of them do anyway) then it can only be used once per cycle, meaning it will take at least a minimum of five days to activate. Alternatively, it may be possible to use it in more than one phase per cycle.

Edit: changed nights to days

You can use the actions in different cycles. They are player actions, not item actions.

Doesn't it break once it's been used? I'm back. Sort of.

[Path-Shaper]

The second day of the elections is barely underway when the first nominee arrives. Where I had expected to see a figure of notoriety in their own faction, the nominee is a master craftsman of the House of Luxury. To add insult to injury, the title he is nominated for, is that of Head of the University: the University that is being dominated by scholars of the Cult of Vultures. The ceremony is brief and Sush is not even accompanied by a member of his own House, for the campaign is still very much open and all hands are needed on the deck.

The Houses of Agreement have purchased 1 title in their bid for dominance in the Council.
Tepan Sush has become Hoja-Bashi.

Hoja-Bashi (Chief Teacher – Courtly Title)
You are the head of the University and you have access to all its knowledge.
You gain the Trader, Caravan-Leader, Raider, Warrior, Assassin, Thief and Mage titles.

This title is no longer for sale.

[Path-Shaper]

Alkend, on 13 April 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

Omtose, on 12 April 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 12 April 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

Omtose, on 12 April 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

And we haven't even talked about Huassan's Riddle of Despair. I think that could be hilarious

I reckon it's possible that someone's already had the item during the previous day, and thus done one of the actions, and now put it on the market for the next person.

Interesting thought, so would the actions happen automatically? Or how would you know which had been completed and which ones were left?

I'm assuming that's the point - you wouldn't. It's a game of chance. You'd go for it if you think that you will survive Assassination. But if it works like other items do (I think all of them do anyway) then it can only be used once per cycle, meaning it will take at least a minimum of five days to activate. Alternatively, it may be possible to use it in more than one phase per cycle.

Edit: changed nights to days

You can use the actions in different cycles. They are player actions, not item actions.

Doesn't it break once it's been used? I'm back. Sort of.

It does

[Korlat]

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:

The second day of the elections is barely underway when the first nominee arrives. Where I had expected to see a figure of notoriety in their own faction, the nominee is a master craftsman of the House of Luxury. To add insult to injury, the title he is nominated for, is that of Head of the University: the University that is being dominated by scholars of the Cult of Vultures. The ceremony is brief and Sush is not even accompanied by a member of his own House, for the campaign is still very much open and all hands are needed on the deck.

The Houses of Agreement have purchased 1 title in their bid for dominance in the Council.
Tepan Sush has become Hoja-Bashi.

Hoja-Bashi (Chief Teacher – Courtly Title)
You are the head of the University and you have access to all its knowledge.
You gain the Trader, Caravan-Leader, Raider, Warrior, Assassin, Thief and Mage titles.

This title is no longer for sale.

Wow, that was fast! Thought it would be another day or so before the titles started dropping.


Also, I'm not happy about that contract for information about me on the market .

[Alkend]

So why would someone do one of the actions? Since it doesn't look like it matters what actions been done until the last.

Edit: by that I mean why would someone stop at one.

This post has been edited by Alkend: 13 April 2012 - 09:25 AM

[Korlat]

And it looks like someone is selling R2D2?!

[Path-Shaper]

Alkend, on 13 April 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

So why would someone do one of the actions? Since it doesn't look like it matters what actions been done until the last.

Edit: by that I mean why would someone stop at one.

I think it is perhaps a bit wrong for me to comment, but:

suppose you have no Day action but a night action that you want to perform each night. You buy this baby, do the Day action, and put it on the market for a higher value. Now the item becomes interesting to players who have day actions they want/need to use, but have no night actions. And so on.

[Korlat]

Alkend, on 13 April 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

So why would someone do one of the actions? Since it doesn't look like it matters what actions been done until the last.

Edit: by that I mean why would someone stop at one.

I think the idea is that once you have the Riddle of Despair you do the actions one phase after another. The point of having all 5 is so that people have to use their actions from all phases in order to get the benefit (and/or death ), and so miss out on doing something else in those phases.

[Korlat]

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

Alkend, on 13 April 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

So why would someone do one of the actions? Since it doesn't look like it matters what actions been done until the last.

Edit: by that I mean why would someone stop at one.

I think it is perhaps a bit wrong for me to comment, but:

suppose you have no Day action but a night action that you want to perform each night. You buy this baby, do the Day action, and put it on the market for a higher value. Now the item becomes interesting to players who have day actions they want/need to use, but have no night actions. And so on.

Is the item marked to indicate which actions have been performed on it?

[Path-Shaper]

Korlat, on 13 April 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

Alkend, on 13 April 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

So why would someone do one of the actions? Since it doesn't look like it matters what actions been done until the last.

Edit: by that I mean why would someone stop at one.

I think it is perhaps a bit wrong for me to comment, but:

suppose you have no Day action but a night action that you want to perform each night. You buy this baby, do the Day action, and put it on the market for a higher value. Now the item becomes interesting to players who have day actions they want/need to use, but have no night actions. And so on.

Is the item marked to indicate which actions have been performed on it?

Yes, it will be.

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2012 - 09:36 AM, said:

Korlat, on 13 April 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

Alkend, on 13 April 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

So why would someone do one of the actions? Since it doesn't look like it matters what actions been done until the last.

Edit: by that I mean why would someone stop at one.

I think it is perhaps a bit wrong for me to comment, but:

suppose you have no Day action but a night action that you want to perform each night. You buy this baby, do the Day action, and put it on the market for a higher value. Now the item becomes interesting to players who have day actions they want/need to use, but have no night actions. And so on.

Is the item marked to indicate which actions have been performed on it?

Yes, it will be.

Which means none of its actions have been used yet.

[Alkend]

Hmm okay.

[Path-Shaper]

Also, with regard to the weekend break: as soon as day ends, the weekend break starts. I'll be at a concert tonight and day times out at 4 AM my time, so I will resolve night at my leisure once I wake up and/or arrive at home, whichever of the two comes latest. Then, day 3 starts with the timer on hold.

During the weekend, you can play the bazaar, you can vote et cetera but please do realise that I will not be there to resolve actions for long stretches of time.

[Korlat]

Since you're here Alkend, what do you think about one of the titles being bought already?

Reading through the scene, the guy who got it is described as a Master Craftsman. Makes me think that he might have acquired his money through selling refined goods in the bazaar. I don't have time to check at the moment - does it seem as though someone could have brought in enough money that way?

[Barghast]

Korlat, on 13 April 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

Since you're here Alkend, what do you think about one of the titles being bought already?

Reading through the scene, the guy who got it is described as a Master Craftsman. Makes me think that he might have acquired his money through selling refined goods in the bazaar. I don't have time to check at the moment - does it seem as though someone could have brought in enough money that way?

Since Alkend is gone and unable to reply, I think I'll put forward my opinion.
About the title: Seeing as PS said someone found a loophole to infinite $, I would guess it was either the person who was selling the merrid information, or the person offering to send any good for an exorbitanf price. I believe it is the latter as if you add up all of their contracts it comes close to 30000 dinari, which also leads ne to believe that they bought the title.
Edit: didn't make sense.

This post has been edited by Barghast: 13 April 2012 - 11:31 AM