[Atrahal]

D, on 20 March 2012 - 01:23 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Edit: The 5 at the moment being Gamelon, D'riss, Omtose, Karosis, Tennes.

Just remembered Karosis is dead Which is a reflection on both how tired I am after travelling, and on how much other people need to start posting.

I think I'm higher than the low posters Aty ol boy. What about Barghast, Mockra and Korvalain?

Also I'm curious why YOU don't think Rashan is at all scummy. Not saying he is mind you, but I'd like to hear it in your own words.

And when exactly did I say that I was picking 5 low-posters? In answer to both you and Omtose, I said those are the 5 names below Silanah's in the post counts, not the lowest posters overall (in fact, there are many more names below yours, sadly). But that kind of middling range is where I'd expect scum to try and hide most of the time.

@ Omtose specifically: You, actually, are the only one of those names for whom I have more than just an instinctive suspicion. I brought you up on day 1 if I recall correctly, and I wonder if I should have pushed on that.


@ D'riss specifically: Why do you say I don't think Rashan is at all scummy? Clearly, I did on day 1, seeing as I pushed a case on him, which no one really got behind with votes despite making encouraging noises. Since then, his play hasn't brought up anything obvious for me to build on, except for perhaps the Tellan thing. I'm a bit hesitant to get behind the fake symping angle, as I don't see why that would happen in a cult game on day 1. But, if on the other hand others thought that maybe Tellan was symping Rashan FOR REAL, then that's something I can get behind

Basically, I've dropped the Rashan thing for now because nobody was really siding with me vote-wise on it, and I don't want to get into a slanging match with the second-highest poster all by myself, as that would be boring and annoying for everybody. If, however, other people think there might be something dodgy about Rashan and were willing to actually vote that way rather than just saying it, I'd be more than happy to join in - it would be nice to find out if my first instinct was indeed the correct one

[D'riss]

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

D, on 20 March 2012 - 01:23 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Edit: The 5 at the moment being Gamelon, D'riss, Omtose, Karosis, Tennes.

Just remembered Karosis is dead Which is a reflection on both how tired I am after travelling, and on how much other people need to start posting.

I think I'm higher than the low posters Aty ol boy. What about Barghast, Mockra and Korvalain?

Also I'm curious why YOU don't think Rashan is at all scummy. Not saying he is mind you, but I'd like to hear it in your own words.

And when exactly did I say that I was picking 5 low-posters? In answer to both you and Omtose, I said those are the 5 names below Silanah's in the post counts, not the lowest posters overall (in fact, there are many more names below yours, sadly). But that kind of middling range is where I'd expect scum to try and hide most of the time.

@ Omtose specifically: You, actually, are the only one of those names for whom I have more than just an instinctive suspicion. I brought you up on day 1 if I recall correctly, and I wonder if I should have pushed on that.


@ D'riss specifically: Why do you say I don't think Rashan is at all scummy? Clearly, I did on day 1, seeing as I pushed a case on him, which no one really got behind with votes despite making encouraging noises. Since then, his play hasn't brought up anything obvious for me to build on, except for perhaps the Tellan thing. I'm a bit hesitant to get behind the fake symping angle, as I don't see why that would happen in a cult game on day 1. But, if on the other hand others thought that maybe Tellan was symping Rashan FOR REAL, then that's something I can get behind

Basically, I've dropped the Rashan thing for now because nobody was really siding with me vote-wise on it, and I don't want to get into a slanging match with the second-highest poster all by myself, as that would be boring and annoying for everybody. If, however, other people think there might be something dodgy about Rashan and were willing to actually vote that way rather than just saying it, I'd be more than happy to join in - it would be nice to find out if my first instinct was indeed the correct one

hmmmmmm I'm still not sure whether I like you... you can be entirely too nice when you want to be...

[Omtose]

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

D, on 20 March 2012 - 01:23 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Edit: The 5 at the moment being Gamelon, D'riss, Omtose, Karosis, Tennes.

Just remembered Karosis is dead Which is a reflection on both how tired I am after travelling, and on how much other people need to start posting.

I think I'm higher than the low posters Aty ol boy. What about Barghast, Mockra and Korvalain?

Also I'm curious why YOU don't think Rashan is at all scummy. Not saying he is mind you, but I'd like to hear it in your own words.

And when exactly did I say that I was picking 5 low-posters? In answer to both you and Omtose, I said those are the 5 names below Silanah's in the post counts, not the lowest posters overall (in fact, there are many more names below yours, sadly). But that kind of middling range is where I'd expect scum to try and hide most of the time.

@ Omtose specifically: You, actually, are the only one of those names for whom I have more than just an instinctive suspicion. I brought you up on day 1 if I recall correctly, and I wonder if I should have pushed on that.


@ D'riss specifically: Why do you say I don't think Rashan is at all scummy? Clearly, I did on day 1, seeing as I pushed a case on him, which no one really got behind with votes despite making encouraging noises. Since then, his play hasn't brought up anything obvious for me to build on, except for perhaps the Tellan thing. I'm a bit hesitant to get behind the fake symping angle, as I don't see why that would happen in a cult game on day 1. But, if on the other hand others thought that maybe Tellan was symping Rashan FOR REAL, then that's something I can get behind

Basically, I've dropped the Rashan thing for now because nobody was really siding with me vote-wise on it, and I don't want to get into a slanging match with the second-highest poster all by myself, as that would be boring and annoying for everybody. If, however, other people think there might be something dodgy about Rashan and were willing to actually vote that way rather than just saying it, I'd be more than happy to join in - it would be nice to find out if my first instinct was indeed the correct one

I have Rashan down in my book as more than likely recuited. That is why I'm more interested in cutting the head off the snake, and get his master. I'm still a bit leery over your vote starting the swing from liosan. But you having your vote there now is keeping me from chasing you for the moment and lowering you on the scum scale.

[Barghast]

Omtose, on 20 March 2012 - 02:44 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

D, on 20 March 2012 - 01:23 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Edit: The 5 at the moment being Gamelon, D'riss, Omtose, Karosis, Tennes.

Just remembered Karosis is dead Which is a reflection on both how tired I am after travelling, and on how much other people need to start posting.

I think I'm higher than the low posters Aty ol boy. What about Barghast, Mockra and Korvalain?

Also I'm curious why YOU don't think Rashan is at all scummy. Not saying he is mind you, but I'd like to hear it in your own words.

And when exactly did I say that I was picking 5 low-posters? In answer to both you and Omtose, I said those are the 5 names below Silanah's in the post counts, not the lowest posters overall (in fact, there are many more names below yours, sadly). But that kind of middling range is where I'd expect scum to try and hide most of the time.

@ Omtose specifically: You, actually, are the only one of those names for whom I have more than just an instinctive suspicion. I brought you up on day 1 if I recall correctly, and I wonder if I should have pushed on that.


@ D'riss specifically: Why do you say I don't think Rashan is at all scummy? Clearly, I did on day 1, seeing as I pushed a case on him, which no one really got behind with votes despite making encouraging noises. Since then, his play hasn't brought up anything obvious for me to build on, except for perhaps the Tellan thing. I'm a bit hesitant to get behind the fake symping angle, as I don't see why that would happen in a cult game on day 1. But, if on the other hand others thought that maybe Tellan was symping Rashan FOR REAL, then that's something I can get behind

Basically, I've dropped the Rashan thing for now because nobody was really siding with me vote-wise on it, and I don't want to get into a slanging match with the second-highest poster all by myself, as that would be boring and annoying for everybody. If, however, other people think there might be something dodgy about Rashan and were willing to actually vote that way rather than just saying it, I'd be more than happy to join in - it would be nice to find out if my first instinct was indeed the correct one

I have Rashan down in my book as more than likely recuited. That is why I'm more interested in cutting the head off the snake, and get his master. I'm still a bit leery over your vote starting the swing from liosan. But you having your vote there now is keeping me from chasing you for the moment and lowering you on the scum scale.

by the same logic, atrahal's most likely been recruited as well, if we are atalking about top-posters....
ugh, today was exceeding long. I'm back home after abeing gone for just about 12 hours, with nothing but a platter of french fries and tea to sustain me all day.

I want sleep desperately, but there's a pile of homework to be done, as testament to Paddy's weekend procrastination.

[Barghast]

@ Serc:

this appears to be Tellan's last content-filled post

Tellan, on 16 March 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

Sorry I've not been around much, had some tech problems sadly.

Some thoughts:

Gut reaction was agreement with D'riss' case on Atrahal. He has been really playing the "helpful townie" role, as I mentioned earlier, which rubs me the wrong way. Having said that, I'm hesitant to vote on it. Feels too much like tunnel-vision and I've seen nothing new to dislike about him that I didn't dislike before, which means essentially I'd essentially be basing any vote on my early day one suspicions which doesn't seem like a good plan.

As per usual, not much read on the people with very few posts.

Tennes post where he says Atrahal has been pushing a bunch of people struck me as a bit off. He's chipped in on lots of different things, but as he pointed out wasn't really being majorly aggressive in more than a couple of places. Admittedly more than most people, but not really enough to warrant the accusation imo. Made Tennes' post just feel like he was just looking for something to say and hadn't really checked the veracity of his claims.

Serc has probably struck me worst today. He seems really middle of the road, and a lot of his posts are game related but not really content which I don't like. Posts about Karosis' speculation on recruitment for example. I don't mind that kind of post, but when he lacks contribution on other stuff it looks a bit dodgy. His longest post is simply going over standard theory (WIFOM etc), rehashing what others had said and some role speculation (or rather, asking other people's opinion on it).

Vote Serc

Just generally seems to be coasting.

it's easily lost in the resulting Emur-lio clusterfuck, but it is the last thing of substance posted by Tellan.



then today we get this:

Rashan, on 19 March 2012 - 03:31 AM, said:

I'm being straightforward this game, I have to say it's fun.

Also, I think I was right about Tellan. He sure went off the radar, didn't he?

Rashan, on 19 March 2012 - 12:45 PM, said:

I was certain, and I was wrong. I wanted myself or Lio killed to stop the inevitable wasted time lynching me or discussing it, because I was horrendously wrong. Nothing unreasonable there, I want to win.

I was the one that the fight goddamn you was directed against.

I was completely surprised that no one considered me suspicious today.

I still think Tellan is up to something. He's completely vanished, and his fake symping of me seems up to something.

Vote Tellan

running late

can't find the quote of Atrahal wanting to go against Tellan atm, but there certainly was one earlier. And Sil's voting him, which doesn't add or take away anyhting from the idea.



so yes, it's not the strongest, most elaborately-crafted case, but I'm suspecting that someone who's voting Tellan may be symping you.

[Kalse]

@Silanah I agree with you that Liosan is not a recruit. A recruiter would be stupid to recruit him last night. BUT he is a definite possibility for a leader. He had a train swing wildly from him, as well as his annoying RP posts that can hide anything. At this point, I tend to agree with Atrahal that the low posters are good breeding grounds for recruits... but I think we are more apt to find recruiters in the middling ranks. for that reason

vote Tellan

there seems to be some resistance to his lynch, and he seems to have vanished.


I am gonna do a quick catch one more time and see if anything jumps out. But I only have about 20 minutes before I am out until well after the lynch.

[Kalse]

Actually, another person that fits my view of a middling poster, that has grown a little more brazen lately is okaros. He has become increasingly aggressive and is pushing a Liosan lynch pretty hard. Possibly going for the easy lynch after yesterdays derail? not sure, but he bears watching

[Kalse]

looks like its just me and an anon... unless mr. anon shows up soon... i am gonna go to bed.

[Barghast]

I'm guessing that was me. Food and shower take priority over mafia at midnight.

[Mockra]

That anon is me. I'm slowly reading through the thread while at work. I've just come to a Holy Shit moment of seeing a lynch train on Liosan go from L-1 with 30 minutes to Emurlahn who had 1 vote on him at the time to be lynched.
Thats a fucking unbelievable swing of the train. Liosan almost hs to be a leader for it to swing like that. Will try and catch the rest up soon, only 3 pages to go.

[Okaros]

Kalse, on 20 March 2012 - 05:03 AM, said:

Actually, another person that fits my view of a middling poster, that has grown a little more brazen lately is okaros. He has become increasingly aggressive and is pushing a Liosan lynch pretty hard. Possibly going for the easy lynch after yesterdays derail? not sure, but he bears watching

if you think I'm going for a liosan lynch you haven't been reading properly. I'm much more interested in what rashan has to say, although he doesn't seem to want to talk to me anymore. and I'm getting more aggressive because he's pissing me off

I could go for a tellan lynch if need be, I agree that his disappearance is a bit suspect, and I should be around later before the lynch so I'm reserving my vote until then.

[Barghast]

Given the man's last post was days ago complainign of "tech isuues" in passing, I'd wait to see if he's modkilled rather then waste spend a lynch on him.

[Barghast]

it's 5 votes for lio, 4 for Tellan.

i'm not sold on either case yet, and i'm going to bed. Day is supposed to time out at approximately the same time my alarm is set, so its highly likely i'll force myself to get up a bit ahead of time and add to either train if it should be necessary.



g'night, people

[Mockra]

Caught up now. I don't really know what to make of all that. I'm leaning heavily towards voting Liosan at this point as the way that train turned is too strange an event to ignore, i'm sure i've never seen such resistance to a lynch. I was almost expecting a Finder reveal at one point when Rashan seemed so confident about Emur being scum.

The only thing is I have a voice in the back of my head wondering if Liosan is a Cult recruiter, why annoy everyone with his RP and stand out? Surely if your the cult leader you'd not want to stand out like that. I guess its a WIFOM argument, but still.

I guess the other case seemed to be Tellan which has 4 votes? Which seems to be, he faked or I guess possibly actually symped Rashan day 1 and has more or less disappeared since? I find that definitly to be the weaker of the two cases at this point. In fact I am surprised on Day 3 after the train took such a swerve it has 4 votes already. However since our CI is on that train, maybe the case has merit as it can't be all the scum hoping to avoid a Liosan lynch, however for me, I just don't think its the go at this point.

[Mockra]

Actually I'm not sure how my time is going to hold up so

Vote Liosan

Hope to be around off and on for the next few hours.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3.

There are 5 hours and 51 minutes left in the day.

18 players are left alive:
Atrahal Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil,Omtose, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes


6 votes Liosan: Omtose, Atrahal, Korvalain、D'riss, Serc, Mockra
4 votes Tellan: Rashan, Silanah, Tennes, Kalse
1 vote Serc: Barghast


Players not Voting: Gamelon, Liosan, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Sorrit, Tellan,

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 20 March 2012 - 06:55 AM

[Ruse]

Ok...caught up.


Im not sure what to make of all this Tellan/rashan/Atrahal "cases" popping up.
Is it another attempt to stall a liosan lynch?


To be fair...i could lynch just about anyone right now i just see scum everywhere i look.
paranoia i suppose.


Ok....my feeling is that we need the liosan CF.
It will be pretty damn informative if you ask me.
If Liosan is inno....then i would be more inclined to think the latter half of the liosan train to be more on the inno side.
I dont see scum jumping around like that so late on in the day that would attract too much attention.

And if Liosan is scum, or even a recruit (i doubt but he could have been recruited night one?)
Then the people who jumped shit and looked to be pushing ehmur train early one are our main suspects for scum.

I dunno...i reckon his CF is just going to yield the most information, even if you dont exactly agree with my assessment here!

[Ruse]

oh...


vote Liosan




really the only option in my book for today.
Most info there.
and we will just be talking about him again tomorrow if we dont.

[Gamelon]

Back and reading up

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3.

There are 4 hours and 35 minutes left in the day.

18 players are left alive:
Atrahal Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil,Omtose, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes


7 votes Liosan: Omtose, Atrahal, Korvalain、D'riss, Serc, Mockra, Ruse
4 votes Tellan: Rashan, Silanah, Tennes, Kalse
1 vote Serc: Barghast


Players not Voting: Gamelon, Liosan, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Sorrit, Tellan,