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Warring States Interlude One: Imperial Influences Ten years later...

#881 User is offline   Atrahal 

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:31 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 19 March 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

It was raining here. I went running, but that was it.

I had some lovely naps on the couch with my 2 month old, but outside of taking care of the sprogling I didn't have much to do....


Get creative.

Place the kid in loads of weird poses and situations, like placing loads of plates and bowls with remains of food around it to make it (him/her?) look like a greedy pig, take photos, and store them away until they're a teenager and you need to embarrass them :wallbash:

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:50 AM

So tired...

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 12:10 PM

View PostOmtose, on 16 March 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 16 March 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

It wasn't anger, Ruse, it was frustration.



looked like the old setup the "i told you so" the next day routine to me...meh


Or a last ditch effort to save Liosan. His leader?




View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

Sorry D'riss.

I would suggest that if there is a town killer out there, kill either Me or Liosan, since it looks like I swung that vote wrongly.



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View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 03:13 PM, said:

Not emo :wallbash:

I'd like to play, but I fucked up, and I'd prefer if we got my inevitable attention out of the way tonight so we don't waste time with it tomorrow.

I still think it was a good lynch, easily recruit-able and whatnot, but the way I swung the vote is suspicious even to me, so that's my reasoning here.


I think you pushed the lynch before the liosan train had any steam.

Atharal swung it IMO


Omtose first suggests that Rashan might be making a last ditch attempt to divert the vote from Lio who could be a possible leader or ally of his as opposed to setting himself up to tell us all how wrong we were about Lio if he had turned up innocent as Ruse thinks he was trying to do. On this point i'd say it is more likely he was diverting from a leader as he was very forceful and checking out numbers and times and encouraging thread members to switch their votes.

Omtose after the CF though does not seem to harbour any suspicion towards Rashan, despite his previous posturing and suggests it is in fact Atrahal that was the turning point of the train and the main one to influence the quick change in direction. This is strange, as Atrahal quoted later on, despite switching his vote, his encouragements and his vote itself were neither very pushy or strong, especially not when compared to Rashan.

I also don't really like Rashan's 'kill me now, I messed up' thing, though it is rather amusing coming from the person who agreed with atrahal's 'fight goddamn you, ear my respect' etc. comment on day 1. It feels like he's trying to appear more townie by being self-sacrificing. To be honest, i'm not sure about Rashan at this point, my opinion over the last few days seems to swing on him on a semi-regular basis but I think the last days swing started and was mostly encouraged by him.

I fet feeling unsure over the Lio train, hell, I felt unsure over it and there were a few factors that has people uneasy and willing to readily change their vote as well seen but the absolute certainly of Rashan on thread was just in direct opposition to most peoples uncertainty, it just feels strange.

I'll be out for a while, but should be around later this evening.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 12:45 PM

I was certain, and I was wrong. I wanted myself or Lio killed to stop the inevitable wasted time lynching me or discussing it, because I was horrendously wrong. Nothing unreasonable there, I want to win.

I was the one that the fight goddamn you was directed against.

I was completely surprised that no one considered me suspicious today.

I still think Tellan is up to something. He's completely vanished, and his fake symping of me seems up to something.

Vote Tellan

running late

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 12:46 PM

ok, I'm back for today

Looks like another crappy day in another crappy week - transition to spring season is fully underway




My thoughts about the whole Rashan thing were why is trying to offer himself for a sacrificial lamb? I don't see why its necessary. The train swung, sure, but from what I saw he had already voted Emurlahn before the swing was discussed. I saw the swing as being led by Atrahal and Ruse at the time, followed by all the others. I was ready to vote this way just to facilitate the lynch, but there were enough people around that it wasn't needed. I was surprised that the swing happened because people ususally will say there's no time, speed lynch is mean, whatever.

I'll be an & off sporadically throughout the day

Edit: added last line

This post has been edited by Serc: 19 March 2012 - 12:48 PM


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:24 PM

It is Day 3.

There are 23 hours and 9 minutes left in the day.

18 players are left alive:
Atrahal Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil,Omtose, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes


2 votes Liosan: Omtose, Atrahal
1 vote Tellan: Rashan


Players not Voting: Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:26 PM

I will have limited posting abilities for the next few days as I am on my phone in Georgia at a place with bad internet connection. I can still read and follow the thread, and will try to post as often as possible

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:29 PM

As I said I would and believe I never did,
Vote Tellan

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:33 PM

Right guys, I'm boarding the flight, so won't be around for at least 15 hours.

Sorry I haven't been of much or any help today. not sure what to comment on that hasn't been said already. I was surprised that the Lio lynch actually swung away. IF Lio was being protected by other scum who dearly wanted the lynch to go another way, then I would suggest Ruse, as his back and forth on the matter belied the fact that he was quick to switch after me.

Having said that, however, I strongly suspect that Silanah's presence on Emur's train did a lot to stiffen people's resolve to switch.

See yas.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:36 PM

It is Day 3.

There are 22 hours and 58 minutes left in the day.

18 players are left alive:
Atrahal Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil,Omtose, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes


2 votes Liosan: Omtose, Atrahal
2 votes Tellan: Rashan, Silanah


Players not Voting: Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Ruse Serc, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes

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Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:36 PM

View PostOlar Ethil, on 19 March 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 16 March 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 16 March 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

It wasn't anger, Ruse, it was frustration.



looked like the old setup the "i told you so" the next day routine to me...meh


Or a last ditch effort to save Liosan. His leader?




View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

Sorry D'riss.

I would suggest that if there is a town killer out there, kill either Me or Liosan, since it looks like I swung that vote wrongly.



View PostOmtose, on 16 March 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 03:13 PM, said:

Not emo ;)

I'd like to play, but I fucked up, and I'd prefer if we got my inevitable attention out of the way tonight so we don't waste time with it tomorrow.

I still think it was a good lynch, easily recruit-able and whatnot, but the way I swung the vote is suspicious even to me, so that's my reasoning here.


I think you pushed the lynch before the liosan train had any steam.

Atharal swung it IMO


Omtose first suggests that Rashan might be making a last ditch attempt to divert the vote from Lio who could be a possible leader or ally of his as opposed to setting himself up to tell us all how wrong we were about Lio if he had turned up innocent as Ruse thinks he was trying to do. On this point i'd say it is more likely he was diverting from a leader as he was very forceful and checking out numbers and times and encouraging thread members to switch their votes.

Omtose after the CF though does not seem to harbour any suspicion towards Rashan, despite his previous posturing and suggests it is in fact Atrahal that was the turning point of the train and the main one to influence the quick change in direction. This is strange, as Atrahal quoted later on, despite switching his vote, his encouragements and his vote itself were neither very pushy or strong, especially not when compared to Rashan.

I also don't really like Rashan's 'kill me now, I messed up' thing, though it is rather amusing coming from the person who agreed with atrahal's 'fight goddamn you, ear my respect' etc. comment on day 1. It feels like he's trying to appear more townie by being self-sacrificing. To be honest, i'm not sure about Rashan at this point, my opinion over the last few days seems to swing on him on a semi-regular basis but I think the last days swing started and was mostly encouraged by him.

I fet feeling unsure over the Lio train, hell, I felt unsure over it and there were a few factors that has people uneasy and willing to readily change their vote as well seen but the absolute certainly of Rashan on thread was just in direct opposition to most peoples uncertainty, it just feels strange.

I'll be out for a while, but should be around later this evening.


I believe Rashan is dirty, but I want the recuiter first. :wallbash:

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:38 PM

View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

Goddammit. I'm telling you right now, Liosan will come up inno. Emurlahn is scum, D'riss his symp/underling. Look at their position on the train on Liosan. They're the reason the Liosan train is ahead. Gah. D'riss completely ignores that Emurlahn is a low content, middle of the road poster, and focuses on the lack of case that I apparently imagined.



View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Looking over Emur's posts, I have to say that there may not be many of them, but they're not exactly content-less either....nothing there strikes me as strange.


Are you kidding? Everything there is just a rehash of what other people said, excepting the post about Barghast, which was ridiculous (imo of course).



View PostAtrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

Goddammit. I'm telling you right now, Liosan will come up inno. Emurlahn is scum, D'riss his symp/underling. Look at their position on the train on Liosan. They're the reason the Liosan train is ahead. Gah. D'riss completely ignores that Emurlahn is a low content, middle of the road poster, and focuses on the lack of case that I apparently imagined.



I think Liosan will come up inno too. I'm not sure about Emur - my gut said it's a possibility, but looking over his posts I don't see anything there, they're pretty decent. I haven't spotted this D'riss link though?



View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

It wasn't anger, Ruse, it was frustration.

The D'riss connection comes from the last page where he looks for the Emur case (which apparently I imagined as something more substantial) and ignores the more important part of the reason to vote him, the need to get rid of people who barely have opinions and few posts.



View PostTennes, on 16 March 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

Goddammit. I'm telling you right now, Liosan will come up inno. Emurlahn is scum, D'riss his symp/underling. Look at their position on the train on Liosan. They're the reason the Liosan train is ahead. Gah. D'riss completely ignores that Emurlahn is a low content, middle of the road poster, and focuses on the lack of case that I apparently imagined.


This sounds like you know something we don't if that's the case i'd be willing to vote along with you. there is a chance Lio could be scum but we do have an hour. If everyone is here to vote then we could all effectively lynch Emur based on what you know.



View PostRashan, on 16 March 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on 16 March 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

This sounds like you know something we don't if that's the case i'd be willing to vote along with you. there is a chance Lio could be scum but we do have an hour. If everyone is here to vote then we could all effectively lynch Emur based on what you know.


I don't. No finder or anything, unfortunately. I'm just much more sure of this than Liosan.

View PostAtrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

I really do think out of Lio, Emur, and Fener, this is the least likely to get us scum - though I've been wrong before I guess. Just the one time mind


Agreed.

View PostD, on 16 March 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Looking over Emur's posts, I have to say that there may not be many of them, but they're not exactly content-less either....nothing there strikes me as strange.


I agree, I don't see anything to justify an Emurlahn lynch.


^ Lol.



Let me explain my hunch again. We all agree that there's likely to be at least one scum in the lower posters. Fener, Ruse, Emurlahn, and Omtose are the 4 lowest posters.

Fener - 2 posts, shite, where is he? Suppose we'll find out on monday.
Ruse - Family emergency, I didn't want to lynch him based on that
Omtose - has posted content, at least that's how I remember it. Of the four, he has the most to look back on if he changed his patterns.

Emurlahn - A few posts, only 1 that was original (and it wasn't good in my opinion), mostly regurgitating what the thread was saying the whole time.

He is 2nd on the Liosan train, which was the person quite a few people were talking about lynching yesterday.
D'riss is defending him, and is FOURTH on the Liosan train, which is when people really started piling on.

THEY are the reason the Liosan train is the big one right now, and there is a connection between them.


When we were initially casting our votes, I picked Liosan over Emurlahn because both cases were to take out a low poster, but Liosan's rp was more annoying. At the time, I honestly felt they were both weak cases and possibly town. Rashan started accusing me of working with Emurlahn, because I had chosen Liosan to go with, so I removed my vote to see if votes would start flowing the Emurlahn way, then added my vote onto Emurlahn once they did. I regret not sticking my ground on Liosan, but since Emurlahn came up innocent, I think there's a strong case that Rashan didn't want the Liosan lynch.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 02:41 PM

As I sat out Friday for some March Madness I need to get caught up on Pre last lynch activity. Would like to see how both Emur and Lio got into such hot water. Didn't see either of their lynches coming.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:11 PM

I liked Mockra's vote summary on Karosis's train. Agreed that some of the middle votes on him were not the best. Barghast's reasonings for voting Karosis seemed a bit week to me. It still had a bit of a joke vote feel to it with his Fener comments. But with it only the fourth vote maybe he didn't truly think the lynch would go through. I don't know but I'll need to take a closer look at Barghast.

Tennes also seemed to use very weak reasoning for voting for Karosis but his smacks more like a lazy townie sucking up to our emperor but it could also be scum trying to make himself look town in other player's eyes. I'll have to keep a eye on him as well. Emurlahn's reasoning seemed to be he wouldn't be around and he wanted his vote on the most likely lynch target. To me that seems the most reasonable. Though how he went about it leaves a lot of interpreting open for discussion and I can see where some players would have issues with it.

I'll be making comments as I get caught up. I'll probably have a bunch of randon thoughts as I sift through the 8 pages of thread I need to get caught up on.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:35 PM

View PostTennes, on 15 March 2012 - 08:16 AM, said:

I'm here and on a computer so will be catching up the next few hours. Last night I went the pub, I got in late, I didn't have access to a computer and my signal on my mobile is awful. I had time to check the post count and who had voted. 4-5 votes were on Karosis and 1 on anyone else. I checked to see if Silanah was on the train as the only other confirmed innocent. I didn't want to go the day without a lynch and I wasn't sure how many people would come on after me. I can read through and post my thoughts this morning but better to have a lynch than to let day timeout. Also he was in my top three suspects for scum which I posted earlier. I don't know what went down in the few hours before my vote or after so will catch up.



View PostTennes, on 15 March 2012 - 08:32 AM, said:

View PostRashan, on 14 March 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

Train sure is building fast on Karosis. Not sure I like that. Better him than me, though.



This is another one for you Rashan. Anthras was pinging our radar last game near enough all game and when we finally lynched him he turned out to be scum. Statements like this jump out at me.



View PostTennes, on 15 March 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 15 March 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

It is Day 1
A Lynch has occurred.

21 players are left alive:
Atrahal, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Kalse, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes

1 vote Rashan: Liosan
11 votes Karosis: D'riss, Okaros, Kalse, Barghast, Emurlahn, Silanah, Tennes, Olar Ethil, Korvalain, Atrahal, Rashan
2 votes Mockra: Sorrit, Korvalain
1 vote Okaros: Karosis
1 vote Atrahal: Tellan
1 vote Liosan: Emurlahn
1 vote Serc: Tennes
1 vote Korvalain: Silanah, Omtose


Players not voting: Fener, Gamelon, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Serc


The ministers sat about in the one remaining servicable room in the palace for such a group. Wafts of conversations passed about like smoke. Some ministers would stop on occassion to pen a poem, or write a few lines that they planned to sell later. On the few occasions the Emperor appeared, they looked to their decorum, but generally the atmosphere was relaxed. That was, until the Minister of Civil Services began to throw accusations about. The majority managed to maintain a gentile air and ignored him for the most part, voicing their own suspicions about who was being bribed by who. That is, until someone quietly whispered "he throws accusations around like someone throws money around." This quickly morphed into a cry of "he must have money! he has been bribed!"

And suddenly the gentil nobles became a ruthless mob as they ran him out of the palace.


Karosis (Sir Thursday) was Minister of Civil Services.



ST has done this the last few games he has played. Put himself out there day one and gotten lynched for it. It does create a lot of discussion and different avenues to follow. So because Mockra didn't vote he wants to look at the train? I would bet quite a bit of money that at least one of the scum was NOT on the lynch train. They lay low and remain hidden from us. Out of the ones that did not vote Mockra posted during the game. Fener is there but I don't think he has said much. Olar did vote. Ruse just spouted poetry so is either recruitable or a recruiter (imo). Gamelon was around and would have voted. Serc I am still unsure of. It is in our interest to vote and get a lynch so can I ask why you didn't vote Mockra?



Okay, These repsonses post lynch makes me a bit less critical of Tennes. Still need to look at Emurlahn and Barghast though.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 04:39 PM

sorry to continue an annoying trend, but I will be heading off to work, then class, then more work in about 10 mins. I may catch some wireless in class, but aside form that, i'm gone for about 12 hours. and this week in general will be pretty hectic untll Thursday.



I'll do a quick read of the Day 2 train before I go, htouhg.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 04:53 PM

Ok, I went over the thread a bit (no too much, cuz i'm running late)

i'm not a huge fan of the Rashan-Atrahal tandem that we've seen developing over the past few days.

And right now it looks like they are going after Tellan. THe thing Tellan has doen recently was attack Serc.


ergo



vote Serc



I'd like to konow why attacking him stirs up so mauch trouble.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:55 PM

Back, caught up. Pretty lean. My week mon-wed is crazy. I won't be around for deadline as it's 5am my time, and I wont be posting much today. Hopefully something develops here soon, or i'll have to leave my vote with little to go on.

I can't believe no one is attacking how fast that train switched from Lio to Emur. I realize the case wasn't striong at all... but a vote swing of that speed and magnitude usually means something.

I have to go. I'll check in one more time in a few hours. But thats all I got today. I will be dropping my vote then.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:29 PM

Sorry guys, I've not had much time today, should be back just before the lynch.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:07 PM

Wow, really? Where is everyone?

I'm voting Tellan, but I'm perfectly willing to vote elsewhere if a better choice arises.

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