[Korvalain]

It's got to be either Ruse, Barghast or Okaros. I'm leaning towards Barghast but the way Okaros has been so quiet this last day when so much information to respond to is very bothersome. I also don't like how quiet , Mockra, Tellan and Gamelon are either.

For now I will abstain from voting. I will be back to vote as long as Shin doesn't restart the timer too soon.

[Tellan]

I'm pretty happy to believe the reveal. First reaction was a bit iffy in that it seemed an uncommon enough role that it may have been fake. However, if we don't have killers it's essentially a standard healer to deal with the type of scum we have.

The Ruse argument to me seemed not to be that focused on his train position, which is what seems worst for me. I decided to look back a bit at Ruse/Atrahal and Okaros/Atrahal conenctions since they were the two on the train before Atrahal.

This is notable:

Okaros, on 21 March 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

Tennes... whatever I think of the case on Atrahal, providing other options is not really scummy...

I will be back on in a few hours, but for now I will leave with

Vote Mockra

I dislike his defence and the fact that he came on to answer the case against him but provided no commentary on the rest of the game.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:

Tennes, on 21 March 2012 - 10:38 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

Precisely 5 of all those posts of mine you put up, Tennes, are non-serious, non game-related posts. It doesn't work to simply copy everything I wrote and call it spam. Do you know what spam is actually? Or are you, *shock*, trying to crowbar posts into your own beliefs/ideas?

Precisely my point. Non game related posts that distance the discussion away from Mockra. The Mockra case was pages back due to you and Rashan bouncing off each other.

Are you fucking joking?

No one really responded when I accused Mockra on day 2 - did I throw a hissy fit and claim everyone was distancing? No.

You yourself said your case was only half-finished. What am I supposed to do? Focus solely on a lame-ass half-a-case?

Fact is, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER YOU MAKING A CASE, SHIT OR OTHERWISE. If I ignored it, that's because it did nothing to stand out.

Vote Mockra

See if I give a shit.

As is this:

Ruse, on 21 March 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Tennes, on 21 March 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

Ruse, on 21 March 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

Tennes, on 21 March 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

Vote Atrahal

I think he istrying to protect his "recruit" Mockra and I don't know why Ruse is defending him.

Think what you want, I am not protecting anyone i just dont like your logic...its stinks.
Should i keep quiet when i see shit? I dont like how you are writing my questions off as me defending atrhal either.
Im defending atrhal...atrhal is defending mockra...we are all "defending" each other yea?!!!

your defense against anyone who attacks you as "defending your targets" is lame.

No one has "attacked" me though. What are you talking about?

"Attack" as in question your motives...like i have.
I have just now attacked your logic....did i not?
hence why you are saying i am "defending atrahal". when in fact i was attacking you....very slick.
I asked why you only focused on atrahal about the "spam" and ignored rashan (who for me is a bigger "spammer")and you simply dismiss me by saying i am defending atrahal?....tsk tsk tsk.

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I'm trying to build a case because the last few days i've followed other peoples cases and they've turned out wrong. I found Mockra to be a low lying coaster. One who stayed away from lynch trains until yesterday where he may have enough people to protect him if he gets called out. Atrahal says he finds him scummy but look here instead. I find that scummy. I find one of those two to be scum.

Firslty....you do realise they very well BOTH could be scum no?
scum are looking for scum too.
for all i know both of you and atrahal are scum...what the fuck do i know?
One thing is sure...atrahal aint the one trying to undermine anyone who is looking for scum in places other than where he might be looking.

Secondly...you where using dodgy logic and its stuff like this that convoluted the game even further for me.
So someone found your case interesting, agreed with it...but decided to give his own case on someone else?...so what?
I find all of this ridiculous in terms of logic...are there not allowed to be any other cases around? yours is the only valid one everyone else must be scum if they dont care for it!!...bah!

Thirdly you used spam as an argument when i read atrahals posts that YOU quoted i didnt find it to be spam at all?
And using spam to derail a thread/case is just about the sillyest thing i have heard someone come up with so far.
how would that even work?

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You attacking my case is a defense of Atrahal whether you like it or not.

So no one is allowed to question your motives without getting labelled a defender of someone.
thats how you roll....i get it.
You are not the first nor the last person to make a case against atrahal...yet i havent gone after them (defended atrahal) now have i?
Use your head. everyone cant be defending everyone.

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I like the way you can do this without providing a case of your own or showing much insight into the game.

Why would i need to build a case when all i have done is poke holes in shoddy logic.
Do you see me voting for you?
Did i claim to have a "case" on you?
No...all i did was question your motives in those few posts because i found your logic very convenient and contrived.
yet you avoid my issues i raised.

WHY DID YOU IGNORE RASHAN AND OTHERS SPAM AND FOCUS ONLY ON ATRAHAL APPARENT SPAM????
at least answer me that onei even put it in caps so you can miss it...answer me that so that i can maybe move along.
Pretty please?

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Is this because I found you fishy early game? Is this you trying to make some waves and pretend like your playing?

Yes asshole...this is all fucking pretend...here is some more pretend... "go fuck yourself clunge".
you trying to get a fucking rise out of me arent you!!


instead of simply calling anyone who questions your motives a bodyguard for who ever you are currently targeting...why dont you just answer their concerns properly and you might find this game get allot clearer.




edit - forgot to answer one quote fully.

As an aside connection, Omtoses drive by gut vote on Atrahal follows Tennes. Rashan was on first, though removed shortly thereafter to vote me instead.
Another aside Atrahals not fully serious me vote shortly follows Rashan's switch. Rashan then removes, and bitches about Atrahal agreeing with him annoys him. In hindsight, possibly signalling. Atrahal then removes and returns to Mockra, because his vote on me was "to emphasise a point".

This struck me as odd. For his preferred candidates he did an awful lot of not voting two of these people.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Omtose, Tennes, and D'riss are my preferred candidates. Followed by Mockra, Gamelon, Rashan, and Tellan - the last two I suspect of likelier being recruits rather than recruiter.

A side note. Atrahal follows D'riss onto a me vote that doesn't gain steam. This isn't concrete (could just be other recruits weren't on) but it's in D'riss' favour, particularly considering I'd been mentioned a decent amount.

The votes:

Okaros, on 21 March 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

I could go for an Omtose lynch. I don't feel like he adequately explained his comment about how many scum there are. Also, I an always suspicious of those who come on only to answer cases against them, without commenting on what else is going on.

I'll be around until time out to change if necessary, but for now

remove vote

vote Omtose

EDIT: to make the bold work.

Ruse, on 21 March 2012 - 10:48 PM, said:

You know what...


remove vote
Vote omtose


guy seems a bit wishy washy.
His OTT reactions last night...and his general play all fit in as possible cult trying too hard to seem normal.
Plus the way he drifts in and out of the game with his strange comments.



good night...i have to get up in like 4 hours.

Ruse's does seem a bit like following, though Okaros' isn't the most decisive of votes either. This train analysis is complicated by the fact that Omtose had been mentioned a bit before the first votes as well.

Based purely on the train, Okaros seems scummier - he was on it before Ruse and Ruse had been mentioning Omtose a bit prior (which makes it seem a bit like the vote made him decide to follow). Based on their other play, Ruse has pinged my scumdar more often, but that may just be vocality.

[Tellan]

Tennes seems a bit anti-Ruse lynch.
Ruse seems to focus on defending himself against a bunch of other stuff, like the whole idea about Atrahal fake revealing or whatever it was he claimed, when what stands out as dodgy to me is his train position, which seemed to distract the thread from that. His whole argument with Barg strikes me as stupid.
Sil seems keen on barg and it seems to have to do with something he can't talk about. Though the fact he mentions other stuff when justifying the vote makes me wonder how much this unrevealable stuff is contributing to that suspicion. At the end of the day, I'd be willing to vote there simply on "I have info you don't that causes me to suspect him, you should vote him", because Sil is CI and if he has more information than us it's worth taking into account and I can't really see anything we can really do except trust his judgement there.

[Silanah]

Tellan, on 24 March 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

Tennes seems a bit anti-Ruse lynch.
Ruse seems to focus on defending himself against a bunch of other stuff, like the whole idea about Atrahal fake revealing or whatever it was he claimed, when what stands out as dodgy to me is his train position, which seemed to distract the thread from that. His whole argument with Barg strikes me as stupid.
Sil seems keen on barg and it seems to have to do with something he can't talk about. Though the fact he mentions other stuff when justifying the vote makes me wonder how much this unrevealable stuff is contributing to that suspicion. At the end of the day, I'd be willing to vote there simply on "I have info you don't that causes me to suspect him, you should vote him", because Sil is CI and if he has more information than us it's worth taking into account and I can't really see anything we can really do except trust his judgement there.

I am fallible, and the info I have is more background info that helped me see Barghy as cultish

[Ruse]

Tellan, on 24 March 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

Tennes seems a bit anti-Ruse lynch.
Ruse seems to focus on defending himself against a bunch of other stuff, like the whole idea about Atrahal fake revealing or whatever it was he claimed, when what stands out as dodgy to me is his train position, which seemed to distract the thread from that. His whole argument with Barg strikes me as stupid.
Sil seems keen on barg and it seems to have to do with something he can't talk about. Though the fact he mentions other stuff when justifying the vote makes me wonder how much this unrevealable stuff is contributing to that suspicion. At the end of the day, I'd be willing to vote there simply on "I have info you don't that causes me to suspect him, you should vote him", because Sil is CI and if he has more information than us it's worth taking into account and I can't really see anything we can really do except trust his judgement there.

good little symp

[Tellan]

Ruse, on 24 March 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

Tellan, on 24 March 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

Tennes seems a bit anti-Ruse lynch.
Ruse seems to focus on defending himself against a bunch of other stuff, like the whole idea about Atrahal fake revealing or whatever it was he claimed, when what stands out as dodgy to me is his train position, which seemed to distract the thread from that. His whole argument with Barg strikes me as stupid.
Sil seems keen on barg and it seems to have to do with something he can't talk about. Though the fact he mentions other stuff when justifying the vote makes me wonder how much this unrevealable stuff is contributing to that suspicion. At the end of the day, I'd be willing to vote there simply on "I have info you don't that causes me to suspect him, you should vote him", because Sil is CI and if he has more information than us it's worth taking into account and I can't really see anything we can really do except trust his judgement there.

good little symp

You could try and be more constructive than flailing around accusing everyone who mentions you of being scum. Do you think you've played a blameless game? Can you really see no reason for people to suspect you whatsoever? Or is it just easier to attack anyone who bats an eyelash in your direction and claim that it's some great big conspiracy and everyone is out to get you?

[Tellan]

Silanah, on 24 March 2012 - 01:51 AM, said:

Tellan, on 24 March 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

Tennes seems a bit anti-Ruse lynch.
Ruse seems to focus on defending himself against a bunch of other stuff, like the whole idea about Atrahal fake revealing or whatever it was he claimed, when what stands out as dodgy to me is his train position, which seemed to distract the thread from that. His whole argument with Barg strikes me as stupid.
Sil seems keen on barg and it seems to have to do with something he can't talk about. Though the fact he mentions other stuff when justifying the vote makes me wonder how much this unrevealable stuff is contributing to that suspicion. At the end of the day, I'd be willing to vote there simply on "I have info you don't that causes me to suspect him, you should vote him", because Sil is CI and if he has more information than us it's worth taking into account and I can't really see anything we can really do except trust his judgement there.

I am fallible, and the info I have is more background info that helped me see Barghy as cultish

Cheers for clarifying.

[Okaros]

Well, it has taken me a while to get through all of what I have missed since the lynch. My apologies for missing so much vital information. Had I known such weighty matters were being discussed, I still wouldn't be able to post anything because I have been out all day. I'm sorry I haven't been able to post as much as I would have liked, but real life got in the way.

I'm wary of following Silanah on anything. Her play has been erratic at best, and the hints of extra knowledge are not really helping anyone.

For what it's worth, I believe Kalse's reveal. However, I'm not sure what implications it will have for the night's recruitment.

I haven't liked Barghy all game, but at this stage it is still a gut feeling.

For myself, I have already explained my actions around the Omtose train. I still think that Omtose is scummy but I can see that no one is interested in him at the moment, and it makes sense to look at the Atrahal connections for now. With that in mind I think Ruse is our best bet today.

[Shinrei]

D, on 23 March 2012 - 10:21 PM, said:

Let's lynch PS and keep playing.

I agree! Fuck PS.

Vote Path-Shaper

[Path-Shaper]

Shinrei has been modkilled, paddled, sent to bed without supper.

I'm going to be around this weekend....please please please not the same doldrums of last weekend please please please

[HoosierDaddy]

Shinrei, on 24 March 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

D, on 23 March 2012 - 10:21 PM, said:

Let's lynch PS and keep playing.

I agree! Fuck PS.

Vote Path-Shaper

Lynch them all. The new avatars all blow. Johnny Depp. Seriously? Tool'd fucking massacre the person who chose that.

[Path-Shaper]

Barghast is Dead. He was Godzilla

Ruse is Dead. He was Gamera.

Rashan is Dead. He was Mothra

D'riss is Dead. He was Ultraman.

Tellan is Dead. He was Kamen Rider.

Serc is Dead. He was the Pink Ranger.

Tennes is Dead. He was Gundam.

Gamelon is Dead. He was Garo.

Mockra is Dead. He was Evangelion Unit 01.

Kalse is Dead. He was Hokuto no Kenshiro.

Korvalain is Dead. He was Cutey Honey.

Okaros is Dead. He was Sailor Moon.

Omtose is Dead. He was Doraemon.

Silanah is not dead. He is RALLICK NOM.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 24 March 2012 - 12:19 PM

[HoosierDaddy]

That's brilliant. Best resolve ever.

[Path-Shaper]

Path-shaper is bored.....


(Oh, and the above is all a joke).
























I'm actually Sailor Moon.

[HoosierDaddy]

You are way sexier than Sailor Moon. And that's creepily saying something.

[Path-Shaper]

You just say that to everyone in a short skirt...

[Silanah]

Path-Shaper, on 24 March 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

Barghast is Dead. He was Godzilla

Ruse is Dead. He was Gamera.

Rashan is Dead. He was Mothra

D'riss is Dead. He was Ultraman.

Tellan is Dead. He was Kamen Rider.

Serc is Dead. He was the Pink Ranger.

Tennes is Dead. He was Gundam.

Gamelon is Dead. He was Garo.

Mockra is Dead. He was Evangelion Unit 01.

Kalse is Dead. He was Hokuto no Kenshiro.

Korvalain is Dead. He was Cutey Honey.

Okaros is Dead. He was Sailor Moon.

Omtose is Dead. He was Doraemon.

Silanah is not dead. He is RALLICK NOM.

LIES! I AM TORVALD NOM! BOW TO ME!

[Tennes]

Korvalain, on 23 March 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

Tennes, on 23 March 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:

connection problems....



@Okaros, I cannot follow a Kalse case when I believe he is a cult leader. If he CF'd as town i'd be willing to listen to what he said and go from there. Too many people are following his case when I believe it is dogshit. (pardon the language)



edit, changed pun to language

Yet you don't mention the fact that I put together a case that basically pointed to the very same people as Kalse. Why are you so dead set against going after the very people that are being pointed out? Sounds like your recuiter is in serious danger of getting the lynched.

Quite a long day today already, been up since 6am, went on a 7 hour round trip. I can follow a Kalse case now but not back when I thought he was a recruiter. I have one of either Barghast, Gamelon or You as cult leader now. I had you pegged as a possible Kalse recruit but now Kalse is innocent it makes you whiny remarks on day one stand out a little.

[whinging baby] Wah, I'm being pointed at, wah I always get lynched early, wah my play just looks scummy, wah i'll disappear until I'm seen as less scummy. [/whinging baby]

Truth be told you are further back though than Barghast and Gamelon. Gamelon has stayed under the radar and played a smooth enough game so far. Barghast is the biggest threat though.

I could honestly follow a vote with you though Korv because I know you can produce a moment of good insight.

For now

Remove Vote

Vote Barghast

[Tennes]

Korvalain, on 23 March 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Kalse, on 23 March 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

Lol.

I think its hilarious that Tennes is so Wrong. Sooooooo before this gets out of Hand,

I am:

Fujiwara no Saneatsu
Sadaijin (Minister of the Left).


I am the emperors most powerful tool, and left hand man. I can target one player each night, and that player can't be recruited. I am unable to target myself.

I also like Calligraphy.

So Tennes, suck it with your "Golden" case. You just outed our most powerful role. Though I doubt you care because you seem to have been recruited.
I was hoping Silanah knew who I was, but based on the vote, I guess not. I somewhat coded this into my opening post which I will go find now.

Fuck. This is the problem of doing a dkt style catchup. You post before you read everything. Looks like from Tennes posts of wiki info I tend to agree this looks valid. So can we please focus on Okaros, Ruse and Barghast as Atrahal's possible recruiter?

Gamelon too? Either of these are fine by me. Now that Kalse is PI I feel a lot better. Like a great weight has been lifted off my shoulders. No one was looking to follow my case on him which made me feel quite lonely

[D'riss]

Silanah, on 24 March 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 24 March 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

Barghast is Dead. He was Godzilla

Ruse is Dead. He was Gamera.

Rashan is Dead. He was Mothra

D'riss is Dead. He was Ultraman.

Tellan is Dead. He was Kamen Rider.

Serc is Dead. He was the Pink Ranger.

Tennes is Dead. He was Gundam.

Gamelon is Dead. He was Garo.

Mockra is Dead. He was Evangelion Unit 01.

Kalse is Dead. He was Hokuto no Kenshiro.

Korvalain is Dead. He was Cutey Honey.

Okaros is Dead. He was Sailor Moon.

Omtose is Dead. He was Doraemon.

Silanah is not dead. He is RALLICK NOM.

LIES! I AM TORVALD NOM! BOW TO ME!

LIES! We all know who the TRUE LEADER of the House of Nom is!!

Spoiler

Tisera