[Tellan]

@D'riss, Sil has had a boner for me for ages. The phrase "We know Sil liked Tellan for a lynch yesterday for some reason that she wouldn't say." is misleading. It suggests "Hey guys, Tellan is scum, but I can't say why" which is not the case. If Sil had some outside information, don't you think she'd be a bit more decisive about it?

[Tellan]

I wouldn't mind voting Ruse on his rather odd reactions. My impression of OE is he has seemed to be playing quite below the radar at times, but I can't remember much of what he's posted to say why I got this impression. I'm pretty equal in my suspicion on the two, but am pretty sure I remember someone a couple of days back saying they thought OE had been subtly defending Atrahal, so I'm going to go look back at their interactions in a bit (going for dinner atm) and see what I think of his play.

[D'riss]

Tellan, on 22 March 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

@D'riss, Sil has had a boner for me for ages. The phrase "We know Sil liked Tellan for a lynch yesterday for some reason that she wouldn't say." is misleading. It suggests "Hey guys, Tellan is scum, but I can't say why" which is not the case. If Sil had some outside information, don't you think she'd be a bit more decisive about it?

She was pretty decisive about her vote yesterday... as was Rashan. Rashan has wanted a piece of your ass since the beginning, so why the change now? Either the Ruse case is just too compelling, or something changed since yesterday. I find abrupt changes in attitude suspicious.

[Rashan]

D, on 22 March 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

Until last night, you were hot and heavy for a Tellan lynch. I'm curious about what changed there. Also, I think Kalse ruled Tellan out too quickly. Atrahal voted for Tellan a few times and then took the vote off of him. I think this looks like he was trying to distance himself from Tellan. A leader may want to be one of the early voters for one of their recruits to look like they don't have a real interest, and then could get stuck having to sacrifice that recruit. We know Sil liked Tellan for a lynch yesterday for some reason that she wouldn't say.

I keep reading Ruse's comment "I never pegged atrahal as scum...he was receiving way to much attention from all over to have been recruited surely?" and wondering whether he is that dumb, or just innocent.


Edit: Corrected grammar a little. Too busy to write a proper paragraph.

From what Kalse posted, I ruled out Tellan today as connected to Atrahal. The opinion may change after my reread.

I still want Tellan lynched, but after reading Kalse's post, I didn't feel it likely he was Atrahal's recruiter. If Tellan turns out to be scum (and I still think he will), I doubt he'll be connected with Atrahal.

edit: Fixed spacing.

This post has been edited by Rashan: 22 March 2012 - 09:28 PM

[Kalse]

I didn't think I needed to, but as a disclaimer. My list was for Artahal's leader only. I am not discounting anyone else as possible scum or scum recruiter.

[Kalse]

D, on 22 March 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

Until last night, you were hot and heavy for a Tellan lynch. I'm curious about what changed there. Also, I think Kalse ruled Tellan out too quickly. Atrahal voted for Tellan a few times and then took the vote off of him. I think this looks like he was trying to distance himself from Tellan. A leader may want to be one of the early voters for one of their recruits to look like they don't have a real interest, and then could get stuck having to sacrifice that recruit. We know Sil liked Tellan for a lynch yesterday for some reason that she wouldn't say.

I keep reading Ruse's comment "I never pegged atrahal as scum...he was receiving way to much attention from all over to have been recruited surely?" and wondering whether he is that dumb, or just innocent.


Edit: Corrected grammar a little. Too busy to write a proper paragraph.

If I took Tellen off the list soley because Atrahl was voting for him, I would agree with you. BUT as the OMtose train was gaining steam and had reached its zenith. (5 votes Omtose 2 votes Atrahal) Tellen is the one that comes on and votes Atrahal, and thus restarts the train that eventually leads to atrahals lynch. Why would a leader do that? If Tellen would have come on and voted Omtose, then we would certainly be talking about Omtose's lynch right now. Tellen had no reason to come on with 48 minutes left in the day and try to start a new train on Atrahal. Rashan and Omtose had already stated that they were wiling to switch to Omtose if they had to. 6/9 votes (if Tellen would have thrown on Omtose), is a tall task. even given the circumstances of Emurs lynch.

The only way I could see Tellen being Atrahals master is if both Omtose and atrahal are his recruits and he feels that Omtose is the more valuable recruit. thats a real long shot imo. Now if you wanted to argue that Tellen is Omtose's master, I would definately be listening. But I can't see him being the master of atrahal.

[Korvalain]

Warning. Wall o quotes incoming. I spent the day looking at Atrahal's posts looking for connections.

[Tellan]

Silanah, on 21 March 2012 - 11:30 PM, said:

Honestly Atrahal is being a major spamming dick, so just to get rid of his tantrums I would be willing to vote him. Yeah, him or tellan for me

This is hardly the attitude of someone with some sort of certainty.

Had dinner, going to read up on OE.

[Korvalain]

Now that I feel we have a solid starting point I’m going to analyze who Atrahal was targeting to home in on who might be his recruiter. Since I don’t know when he was recruited I broke up his posts between Day 2, 3 & 4 before he was lynched. I might have to break this up even further because he posted so damn much. So here is the complete list of recruiter suspects.



Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc, Tellan, Tennes.

Atrahal, on 15 March 2012 - 10:22 AM, said:

Okaros, on 15 March 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

Mockra, that's a great summary.

No, it isn't.

Vote Mockra

For repeating almost exactly the analysis of the lynch train which Karosis made just before he was lynched, down to exactly who he found the most suspicious, and then passing it off as his own analysis.

I'm also happy to vote Tennes for the stupidity/scumminess of the Silanah reasoning for a vote on Karosis, as no one seems willing to lay their cads on the table regarding Rashan, despite quite a few of you going 'ooh, that's another suspicious thing you've done, Rashan.'

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Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc, Tellan, Tennes.

Atrahal, on 15 March 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

Rashan, on 15 March 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

More just hoping you see and understand the confusion and frustration

What do you think about Tellan? Worth lynching?

Tellan's been very quiet ever since we stopped our bitch-fest. His last post which I remember suggested that he was going to move his attentions from me to you. He seems extremely certain of things. I don't know what that says really. When I was arguing with him, I got the impression I was butting heads with a townie, and my comments about him distancing/defending were more designed to wind him up than anything else (not very HELPFUL, I know ).

I think I would have to hear more from him today to decide on it - but from my own viewpoint so far, I wouldn't miss him much. Unfortunately, that kind of reasoning tends to be frowned upon

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Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc, Tellan?, Tennes.

Atrahal, on 15 March 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

There's still 4 players on single-digit number of posts, but I dislike lynching low posters for the sake of it unless we're truly desperate. I'd be interested to see this look at Barghast, Okaros.

Barghast?, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros?, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc, Tellan?, Tennes.

Atrahal, on 15 March 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Rashan, on 15 March 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

Barghast is one of the highest contributors, at least in my notes. (I don't have notes, except in my brain).

My notes are also in my head - and my head tells me that Barghy started off keen as a whistle, and gradually lost energy. This is wholly unsubstantiated, by the way.

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Same as above but looking more likely that Barghast is off the list

Atrahal, on 15 March 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 15 March 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

Okay I'm running out of time. But I went ahead and took a quick look at a few of the middle of the road posters, Gamelon, D'riss, Okaros, Sorrit and Kalse. Before my reread of their posts I didn't really have much of a read on any of them. Gamelons last post that I read before the reread prompted me to take a close look at these players because I didn't have much of an opinion on most of them. What I found surprised me.

Gamelon was the least surprising. After you get past some of his inital posts the rest of what he says are usually one or two liners and for the most part look like post padding. He goes around and asks a few questions doesn't want to express his opinion and wants to seem to be part of the discussion without really contributing to it. High on my to watch list

D'riss was a early spammer as roughly a third of his current post counts were Day 1 spam. But once you get past that he seems to be a good contributor especially when he fingered Karosis and Athrahal with his suspisions. But after that he goes out of his way to quote someone in nearly the rest of his remaining posts giving just sparse comments to all the quotes that he references. Still I get a bit of a town vibe from him.

Sorrit was one of my biggest suprises. Probably because I agreed with him in wanting to go after a low poster Day 1 that may have clouded my judgement of him. But if you take a look at what he has said he post quality is a lot like Gamelon. He's more scummy to me now that he was yesterday.

Of the last two Okaros and Kalse. I get the feeling from going over their posts that they contribute a lot in comparison to the number of posts they submit. These two didn't really give me much of a scum vibe.

If I get some time over the weekend I'll take a look at some more people but for now I'm out.

I agree that this is exactly the sort of grouping (the lower middle-class, let's call them ) where I'd expect at least one, if not more, scum to be residing.

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Non-committal so can’t really remove anyone from the list

Atrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 12:22 PM, said:

And I find it a bit rich - no, wait, insulting - that Ruse thinks I've put too much effort into something. Why don't you put some - any! - effort into the game then come back to me

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Same

Atrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

Anyone want to lynch Mockra? If not, I'll switch to either Emur or Fener - I suddenly have a feeling that Fener hasn't been modkilled yet because he's super-important, can I make a case on that? I don't mind Lio's RP and won't vote him just for that, but I agree that he needs to stop summarising and start suggesting his own things. So far he's just latched on to what others have said.

Atrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

The Barghast post is, even if Barghy is scum, totally rubbish, I admit. But he did actually give reasoning prior to the Karosis vote, which I thought he hadn't.

Atrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

Omtose, on 16 March 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 02:17 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 March 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

Rashan, on 16 March 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

Goddammit. I'm telling you right now, Liosan will come up inno. Emurlahn is scum, D'riss his symp/underling. Look at their position on the train on Liosan. They're the reason the Liosan train is ahead. Gah. D'riss completely ignores that Emurlahn is a low content, middle of the road poster, and focuses on the lack of case that I apparently imagined.

jesus dude.



who pissed in your drink water.


we are running out of time.
hence going for the lynch thats possible mathematically.
Get 10 votes onto ehmur now and ill hammer.

Why do you have to hammer? Why not just add your vote?

Anyways, I don't think this will help us, but it's not going anywhere else. I have to say this all felt very quick all of a sudden.

Remove Vote

Vote Liosan

Yes, end of day. Unless you wanted it to drag out to a no lynch.

HEY D'RISS! If you want to accuse somebody of being pushy, maybe you should look at this guy's last few posts

Atrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

D, on 16 March 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Looking over Emur's posts, I have to say that there may not be many of them, but they're not exactly content-less either....nothing there strikes me as strange.

I agree, I don't see anything to justify an Emurlahn lynch.

After Rashan's post, this comment by D'riss makes me very uneasy.

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So if he was recruited Night 1 then looks like it wasn’t by Mockra nor was it likely to be Barghast, Okaros or Tellan.

[Korvalain]

So if he was recruited night 2 who is his likely recruiter.

Suspect list

Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc, Tellan, Tennes

Atrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 16 March 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Tell you what. I'll be here till the very end, so:

Remove Vote

Vote Emurlahn

If the votes on Emur don't climb, I'll switch back to Liosan with enough time to still lynch him.

That's what I said when I voted. After that, I didn't say anything at all about others switching their votes.

The reason I changed my vote was because D'riss' "I find Emur totally un-suspicious" comment after Rashan had pointed out a potential link made me uneasy.

In fact, I would argue that the real swinger was Silanah. Seeing our Emperor jump on made a lot of people more confident about it, I would wager.

Atrahal, on 19 March 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Right guys, I'm boarding the flight, so won't be around for at least 15 hours.

Sorry I haven't been of much or any help today. not sure what to comment on that hasn't been said already. I was surprised that the Lio lynch actually swung away. IF Lio was being protected by other scum who dearly wanted the lynch to go another way, then I would suggest Ruse, as his back and forth on the matter belied the fact that he was quick to switch after me.

Having said that, however, I strongly suspect that Silanah's presence on Emur's train did a lot to stiffen people's resolve to switch.

See yas.

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Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc, Tellan, Tennes

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Ahem, to be serious for just one post:

I'm going to be pointing a few fingers here, but the ones I like the look of the least on a purely instinctual level are the 5 or so below Silanah in the posting stakes. That's where I'd bet scum would hide. But going on what happened the last day rather than just gut, I'm voting Liosan. Both Serc and Tellan I see merit in voting for, though, the former more than the latter - at least until Tellan actually comes back from his extended absence.


Edit: The 5 at the moment being Gamelon, D'riss, Omtose, Karosis, Tennes.


Goddam there's a lot of people left. For example, I completely forgot there was a Korvalain in this game until he started posting again earlier today.

Barghast, D’riss?, Gamelon?, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose?, Rashan Ruse, Serc, Tellan, Tennes?

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

D, on 20 March 2012 - 01:23 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Edit: The 5 at the moment being Gamelon, D'riss, Omtose, Karosis, Tennes.

Just remembered Karosis is dead Which is a reflection on both how tired I am after travelling, and on how much other people need to start posting.

I think I'm higher than the low posters Aty ol boy. What about Barghast, Mockra and Korvalain?

Also I'm curious why YOU don't think Rashan is at all scummy. Not saying he is mind you, but I'd like to hear it in your own words.

And when exactly did I say that I was picking 5 low-posters? In answer to both you and Omtose, I said those are the 5 names below Silanah's in the post counts, not the lowest posters overall (in fact, there are many more names below yours, sadly). But that kind of middling range is where I'd expect scum to try and hide most of the time.

@ Omtose specifically: You, actually, are the only one of those names for whom I have more than just an instinctive suspicion. I brought you up on day 1 if I recall correctly, and I wonder if I should have pushed on that.


@ D'riss specifically: Why do you say I don't think Rashan is at all scummy? Clearly, I did on day 1, seeing as I pushed a case on him, which no one really got behind with votes despite making encouraging noises. Since then, his play hasn't brought up anything obvious for me to build on, except for perhaps the Tellan thing. I'm a bit hesitant to get behind the fake symping angle, as I don't see why that would happen in a cult game on day 1. But, if on the other hand others thought that maybe Tellan was symping Rashan FOR REAL, then that's something I can get behind

Basically, I've dropped the Rashan thing for now because nobody was really siding with me vote-wise on it, and I don't want to get into a slanging match with the second-highest poster all by myself, as that would be boring and annoying for everybody. If, however, other people think there might be something dodgy about Rashan and were willing to actually vote that way rather than just saying it, I'd be more than happy to join in - it would be nice to find out if my first instinct was indeed the correct one

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So if he was recruited Night two looks like Ruse for sure and D’riss, Gamelon, Omtose and Tennes are likely not the recruiter and if anything Rashan was slightly defended so might be his recruiter. They definitely have been buddy buddy.

[Korvalain]

This is the Day he was lynched. We know he was recruited as of last night maybe earlier.

Suspect list

Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc, Tellan, Tennes.

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

Sorry all, I slept right through the lynch (was exhausted!) and then had work all day up till now. First off, I got to say, before we got their alts, I would have pegged Sorrit as D'rek and Liosan as Venge, not the other way round

I think the kill is likelier to come from a town member than a cultist - but either way, it was someone hoping to have found a cult leader. It is possible that there are recruits a-plenty at this stage, though I am hesitant to speculate on the number of recruiters or the recruiting mechanics. But to me whether the position of some players has altered doesn't actually change anything at all right now. Cult leaders continue to be the target.

Rashan, on 20 March 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

Omtose, on 20 March 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

A big WTF to D'rek. His distraction may have cost us the game. I don't know what to do now.

You're dumb. You lynched someone for RPing, then get sad when, surprise, she comes up inno.

I agree. Omtose's reaction strikes me as over the top and like someone scrambling to look townie.

Rashan, on 20 March 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

I'd be willing to vote Mockra.

And where were these sorts of posts when I was saying Mockra was scummy on day 2?!?!?!

Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc, Tellan, Tennes.

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

Yeah, as I stated previously, I'm willing to lynch any of the middle-order posters. Probably Mockra and Omtose first and foremost as they're the ones who've pinged my radar on previous days, but, seriously, any of the others (Gamelon, Ruse, Serc, Korvalain, Tennes) could equally be a good bet for a cult leader.

Huh, that's about half the players there. Well, narrowing it down, I've seen some posts I agree with from Korv and Tennes. I can't remember a thing Gamelon or Serc have said. Ruse I've mistrusted since the Emurlahn lynch - I personally felt if anyone looked suspicious after that lynch it was him.


As for whether we know if we've lynched a recruit...I thought PS said that he will make it clear? And in the Liosan lynch, the scene made it clear that they were no recruit.

Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon?, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan Ruse?, Serc?, Tellan, Tennes?.

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

Oh, add D'riss to that as well.

Barghast, D'riss?, Gamelon?, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan Ruse?, Serc?, Tellan, Tennes?

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 20 March 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Why Sorrit? He was one of my canidates for being scum as he fell into the middle of the road group that I was keeping an eye on.

I would assume that's exactly why they were killed. Someone thought the same.

Korvalain, on 20 March 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

D'riss and Tennes are going out of their way to see who is the first to repost everything that Sorrit said. If I had to guess I'm thinking with the fake symping that Rashan accused D'riss of, that D'riss and his recruit Tennes are going out of their way to create WIFOM and direct attention away from each other. And the fact that they went out of their way to double mention Barghast is a bit strange. Was it deliberate? I find it very suspicious in any case.

D'riss seems to be constantly linked to other players. So instead of Emur's recruit he's now Tennes'? Is this linking crappy play from D'riss or is there really something there perhaps?



Edit: Spelling

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 10:56 PM, said:

I also raised an eyebrow at Korvalain's sudden upage in content posts. It was only yesterday that I said that I'd forgotten there was even a Korvalain in this game.

However, the fact that Korv has raised up a few people means there's no specific agenda that can be linked as yet to his sudden exit from passivity.


On the other hand:

I'm now convinced that D'riss has been recruited.

Something in all that Korv posted recently has really not sat well at all with D'riss. Ergo, (at least) one of Tennes, Gamelon and Ruse is a cult leader.

I can't really write off any of these players as not a recruiter but I do think we can write them off as not being Atrahal's Recruiter

Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc?, Tellan, Tennes

[Korvalain]

Cont.

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

Unfortunately, that also goes against my preference to lynch one of Mockra or Omtose

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 01:48 AM, said:

Also, I just looked over who's still alive, and there's names there that I just keep forgetting are still around. Olar Ethil! Kalse! Okaros!
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What this means is that every time I think I'm narrowing down a list of suspects, names I'd entirely forgotten about pop up

Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse?, Mockra, Okaros?, Olar Ethil?, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc?, Tellan, Tennes

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

I'm thinking Omtose is a cult leader based on my previous suspicion of him, and I'm thinking one of those named by Korvalain is also a cult leader, based on D'riss' reaction.

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The second statement though makes me feel like it's not likely to be Atrahal's recruiter

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 02:01 AM, said:

Thinking back on it, that Tennes "I'm voting here because Silanah is" vote back on day 1 pops back into my head. I'll have to take a look at possible D'riss-Tennes interaction myself, but there is the added issue that even if they are linked, D'riss may not have been actually recruited until the night just past for all we know.

But I won't be doing any of that now, because I'm off to bed!

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

Tennes, on 21 March 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

Mockra I didn't finish what I was going to say, i've been away since I started that. My point was going to be that you are a great candidate for cult leader or recruitment. If you are recruited i'd be wary of Atrahal because since I started the case on you which i'll hopefully finish later he has come on and spammed the thread with Rashan. Right now I am thinking that you, Atrahal and Rashan are all in the same cult. I would be happy if either of these are lynched. Rashan has looked scummy all game and is always around with her defence, same as Atrahal, they seem to influence the thread the most and I don't believe Mockra. Where has Serc gone as well?

I spammed the thread? I spammed the thread! Please, Tennes, look above, and tell me who was spamming? I doubt that 'Atrahal' will be the first name to come to you, unless you're the one with the 'vendetta' of course. Is it maybe because I brought your name up among the candidates for D'riss' buddy? Yes, yes, I think it is.

So what was I supposed to do? Wait until you eventually came back to finish your Mockra case, which 1) You never announced wasn't finished, and 2) You appear to have added precisely one sentence to? And please, do take a look back again, I said more than once that my preferred lynch candidates for today would have been Omtose and, that's right, Mockra.

No, I think this is all because I mentioned your name with D'riss. Please show me all this spam I've posted since your case then.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:

Tennes, on 21 March 2012 - 10:38 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

Precisely 5 of all those posts of mine you put up, Tennes, are non-serious, non game-related posts. It doesn't work to simply copy everything I wrote and call it spam. Do you know what spam is actually? Or are you, *shock*, trying to crowbar posts into your own beliefs/ideas?

Precisely my point. Non game related posts that distance the discussion away from Mockra. The Mockra case was pages back due to you and Rashan bouncing off each other.

Are you fucking joking?

No one really responded when I accused Mockra on day 2 - did I throw a hissy fit and claim everyone was distancing? No.

You yourself said your case was only half-finished. What am I supposed to do? Focus solely on a lame-ass half-a-case?

Fact is, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER YOU MAKING A CASE, SHIT OR OTHERWISE. If I ignored it, that's because it did nothing to stand out.

Vote Mockra

See if I give a shit.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

Tennes, I find your focus on me very strange. Your reasoning does not fit with what I or others have said on thread. At all. I think you're scared because I named you among a short list of suspects, and your paranoia has convinced you that I'm in league with Mockra.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

Tennes, I just took a look at your case.

Fuck me with a boomstick.

Now I know why I didn't pay attention. It's just a wall of Mockra's posts with no comments. You did in fact say you'll be back later to give comments, so perhaps it actually stood to reason to not comment on your own opinions, SEEING AS YOU HADN'T GIVEN US ANY AT THAT POINT. Jesus fucking Christ.

After you left your Mockra mural, as well as me, Olar, Barghast, Tellan, D'riss, and Gamelon all also came on and made no mention of your post. Why aren't they distancing from Mockra then?

Of those who did mention Mockra, Rashan did so but without reference to you, Korvalain gave one very brief mention, and Okaros said he thought your case was shit but would vote for Mockra for his own reasons.


The funniest thing is, I have absolutely no problem in voting for Mockra. Indeed, I actually like my vote being on Mockra. What I am pissed off about is that you're one of those stubborn empty-headed fuckers who can't change their stance on certain aspects of their case no matter how much evidence is put to them to the contrary.

Barghast?, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse?, Mockra, Okaros?, Olar Ethil?, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc?, Tellan?, Tennes

He implicates a number of players but he could have easily threw his recruiter in the group so I don't think they are completely out of the question yet.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

Anyone else get the feeling that Rashan is playing like he doesn't give a fuck anymore?

Not sure what this comment means. I'm hesitant to cross Rashan out as of right now.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

Rashan, on 21 March 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

So we have about 8 hours. What's the deal, who's biting the dust?

Pushing for a lynch. Killer scum obvs

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

If you're talking to me, then I refer you to these previous posts of mine, with regards to what I think of Tellan:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Ahem, to be serious for just one post:

I'm going to be pointing a few fingers here, but the ones I like the look of the least on a purely instinctual level are the 5 or so below Silanah in the posting stakes. That's where I'd bet scum would hide. But going on what happened the last day rather than just gut, I'm voting Liosan. Both Serc and Tellan I see merit in voting for, though, the former more than the latter - at least until Tellan actually comes back from his extended absence.

[Korvalain]

cont

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

Rashan, on 21 March 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

So we have about 8 hours. What's the deal, who's biting the dust?

Pushing for a lynch. Killer scum obvs

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

If you're talking to me, then I refer you to these previous posts of mine, with regards to what I think of Tellan:

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Ahem, to be serious for just one post:

I'm going to be pointing a few fingers here, but the ones I like the look of the least on a purely instinctual level are the 5 or so below Silanah in the posting stakes. That's where I'd bet scum would hide. But going on what happened the last day rather than just gut, I'm voting Liosan. Both Serc and Tellan I see merit in voting for, though, the former more than the latter - at least until Tellan actually comes back from his extended absence.

Atrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

@ D'riss specifically: Why do you say I don't think Rashan is at all scummy? Clearly, I did on day 1, seeing as I pushed a case on him, which no one really got behind with votes despite making encouraging noises. Since then, his play hasn't brought up anything obvious for me to build on, except for perhaps the Tellan thing. I'm a bit hesitant to get behind the fake symping angle, as I don't see why that would happen in a cult game on day 1. But, if on the other hand others thought that maybe Tellan was symping Rashan FOR REAL, then that's something I can get behind

As you can see from these, I'm not convinced by your fake symping case.

But whatever.



I'll do an Omtose.

Remove Vote

Vote Tellan

Because Silanah suspects him.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

God Omtose's drive-by vote has pissed me off no end.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

Rashan, on 21 March 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

Seriously, Atrahal makes me want to punt midgets, but he always agrees with me. EVEN WHEN I'M NONSENSICAL. JEEBUS.

Why exactly have I riled you, Rashan?

You're going to love this, though.

Remove Vote

Vote Mockra


Because I only voted Tellan to emphasise a point, and because I was pissed off from Omtose's idiocy. I'm better now

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

Rashan, on 21 March 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

Ignore it? Never, just the opposite in fact. Use it to make a connection back to their cult leader. As I said at the beginning of this day, the situation hasn't really changed from day 1 - we're still looking for cult leaders. Lynching recruits would be nice, yes, but it's still not the aim of the game. The tide won't be stemmed for any faction until the recruiter is taken out.

But yes, lynching any cult is better than lynching no cult. Duh.

Well looking at the options today, maybe we should just go for D'riss, then try to make connections?

*shrug* I'm game, D'riss is no friend of mine.

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Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Omtose, Tennes, and D'riss are my preferred candidates. Followed by Mockra, Gamelon, Rashan, and Tellan - the last two I suspect of likelier being recruits rather than recruiter.

[Korvalain]

cont.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 21 March 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

I still am not seeing the D'riss thing, even after a quick re-read he does not stand out as inherently more scummy than most players and the origional link made was to a player who cf'd as town, and there have been a few connections since. It just seems strange.

For me, the D'riss suspicion stems from his reaction to Korvalain's post where Korv identifies three people (Tennes, Gamelon, Ruse) as probably being a recruiter. D'riss' reaction made me think he was recruited by one of those three. Since then, events have led me to conclude it's Tennes. In an effort to not be just obsessed with that, especially if I'm the only one who felt that way, my other big suspicion rests on Omtose, a suspicion which I had since day 1 and has done nothing but grow since.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

D, on 21 March 2012 - 09:40 PM, said:

Ok, I'm going mobile so can't quote cases at the moment very well.

Remove vote

I summon thee I summon thee I summon thee

vote Tellan

Hmmm, we require more power it seems.

Remove Vote

Vote Tellan

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

Barghast, on 21 March 2012 - 10:21 PM, said:

gotta get changed and bounce in about 10 min.



anyone has any last-minute insight on whom else I should vote?

Put another vote on Tellan and see if that makes him show up.






In seriousness, I'm torn between voting D'riss, having been swayed somewhat by Ruse's comments, and voting Omtose. The reason I haven't voted Omtose yet is because no one aside from Olar is really feeling it, and he has zero votes. I am loath at this point to vote on someone completely new.

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 10:49 PM, said:

Let's do it then.


Remove Vote

Vote Omtose


Oh Okaros, you need to bold your vote.

Atrahal, on 22 March 2012 - 12:18 AM, said:

Gamelon, on 22 March 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

Goddamnit finally caught up. I'm fairly sold on both lynches, but with 15 minutes to go I'm going to

Vote Atrahal

He's been all over the place, especially today. Although today it comes across as somewhat frantic

Who the fuck are you? Oh right, someone who hasn't contributed anything the entire game. You should be in my place, useless retard.

Atrahal, on 22 March 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

You're probably one step up from Silanah, or Go-Cockface or whatever they're called. Useless, all of you.



Edit: @ Gamelon

Barghast?, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse?, Mockra, Okaros?, Olar Ethil?, Omtose, Rashan Ruse, Serc?, Tellan, Tennes

There was a lot of finger pointing the last day by Atrahal. Hopefully it will narrow down who his recruiter might be. The best that I can do is

Barghast, Kalse, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Rashan and Serc. Serc I believe is a non recruiter because of his reveal. So I think of the remaining players that hasn't been at least partially cleared in my mind is Rashan. This has taken way too long to put together.

[Korvalain]

Shit. I had trouble posting some of that so I probably screwed something up.

In summary looking at the last day Atrahal pointed a lot of fingers and seriously voted for a number of players. I've boiled it down to

Barghast,
Kalse,
Okaros,
Olar Ethil,
Rashan

I'm leaning towards Rashan because he was my inital scummy pick Day 1 before dropping off the radar but I guess that really means that he isn't so I would like to look at the other 4 for sure.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5.

There are 11 hours and 56 minutes remaining.

15 players are left alive:
Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes


8 votes to lynch, 7 to go to night.

1 vote Ruse: Barghast
1 vote Kalse: Tennes
1 vote Olar Ethil: Kalse

Players not voting: D'riss, Gamelon, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Silanah, Tellan

[Serc]

I'm leaving for today, will most likely not be back before lynch, unfortunately.



Vote Ruse



There;s a lot of material to digest if I can get back on tonight I will review the recent material thats been posted.
I would love to see something more definitve from Silanah.


EDIT: forgot to bold

This post has been edited by Serc: 22 March 2012 - 10:21 PM

[Korvalain]

So looks like Kalse did a train analysis. didn't think to do it that way but because he did I feel even better that we have 3 players that end up on both lists.

So it looks like one of Barghast, Okaros and Olar Ethil are most likely Atrahal's recruiter. I'll take a closer look at each of these three and see if I can see any more connections to narrow it down.

[Korvalain]

Serc, on 22 March 2012 - 10:20 PM, said:

I'm leaving for today, will most likely not be back before lynch, unfortunately.



Vote Ruse



There;s a lot of material to digest if I can get back on tonight I will review the recent material thats been posted.
I would love to see something more definitve from Silanah.


EDIT: forgot to bold

Thanks Serc. You made it very easy for me. Even with the analysis that Kalse did and with the post look through I did with Atrahal's posts this looks like a recruit following his recruiters vote on Ruse.

Vote Barghast

[Korvalain]

There is no way that Ruse is Atrahal's recruiter. I need to look at when Barghast voted for Ruse but Serc's vote on Ruse smacks of following and since Barghast is now one of my top three for most likely recruiter this looks like a no brainer for me.