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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:00 AM

Vig Ment, he didnt read the post from PS that said the clock was frozen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:00 AM

View PostBent, on 03 March 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

Nope, because if you waited until Day 3 to reveal or 4, then Silencer could have fired, hit or missed, and you would still be safe, because you are a good lynch target. This buys team inno an extra day HD.


If you didn't get me lynched in the mean time.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:01 AM

IMO,

This would be a shitacularly stupid play if HD and/or Silencer were killers.

If one/both of them are symps, it certainly does distract a lot, but it's not like anyone was really getting much pressure that they needed distracting from. And then if they get called on it and don't prove the reveal, they haven't really gained anything. Or if everyone belives them, they get NK'd by the killers.


So I don't see how this could benefit them if they were scum...

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:02 AM

View PostGrief, on 03 March 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

View PostSilencer, on 03 March 2012 - 03:56 AM, said:

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View PostGrief, on 03 March 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

HD, vig silencer please?


Do you want me to vig YOU, Grief? :)


See HD, he's silencing those who disagree with him by threats of violence :)


Haha, you're not disagreeing with me, though, you're doubting my reveal, which is fine, and suggesting we test it through ridiculous means, which is not. I'm just saying, town gets more out of dead-you and alive-me than dead-me and alive-HD-and-you, seeing as you have no testable alignment other than your CF, bucko.


Neither do you.


You think I'm a day-killing team scum, then?


Atm I'm leaning towards symp, just based on the convenience of your role being identical to HD's reveal and the complete lack of justification for your reveal.

But day vig is not a guaranteed town role, and if there are two of you then idk, it's possible one is scum yeah.



As I said, I have a testable claim, you don't. :) Besides, then you need to justify the presence of an extra night kill, and if one of those was by a night vig surely someone should make a claim on that just to remove confusion and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh revealfest. :)
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<Vote Silencer> For not garnering any heat or any love for that matter. And I'm being serious here, it's like a mental block that is there, and you just keep forgetting it.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:02 AM

View PostSilencer, on 03 March 2012 - 04:00 AM, said:

View PostH.D., on 03 March 2012 - 03:56 AM, said:

I'm not going to vig you, Silencer. And, you know how paranoid I am of you.

However, your lackadaisical reveal would provoke much scrutiny in me if I had not done the exact same thing.


Well that sets my heart at ease (not really, I kinda doubted you'd do it on Grief's command, lol) but doesn't really do anything to my 'wtf are you stupid' reaction to his suggestion. *sigh*

You should be very suspicious of me, having done the same thing yourself or not, as I am of you. But the fact is that we're both making claims and I feel that by the end of the day, er, weekend we should probably test them. Unlike everyone else on thread, we've gone against the playbook, so naturally there is doubt. In fact, we've done very silly things, given our claimed abilities and their notorious detriment to town. But hey, what's mafia without doing something stupid once in a while?


I've always been responsible with my powers. I felt a need to be a little wild this game.

But, I maintain that not knowing this game had fucked-up roles would have hurt town more early than our potentially negative roles have being outted. Which is why I've subtely been shouting in the corner all game.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:03 AM

View PostBent, on 03 March 2012 - 04:00 AM, said:

Vig Ment, he didnt read the post from PS that said the clock was frozen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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<Vote Silencer> For not garnering any heat or any love for that matter. And I'm being serious here, it's like a mental block that is there, and you just keep forgetting it.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:04 AM

View PostBent, on 03 March 2012 - 04:00 AM, said:

Vig Ment, he didnt read the post from PS that said the clock was frozen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

learn to drunk-read better, bitch
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:04 AM

View PostD, on 03 March 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

IMO,

This would be a shitacularly stupid play if HD and/or Silencer were killers.

If one/both of them are symps, it certainly does distract a lot, but it's not like anyone was really getting much pressure that they needed distracting from. And then if they get called on it and don't prove the reveal, they haven't really gained anything. Or if everyone belives them, they get NK'd by the killers.


So I don't see how this could benefit them if they were scum...


The only good part is that scum can't really go after me during the day for fear that I'll nuke 'em from orbit. The bad part is that I'm probably dying soon. But, I've weighed the options. People didn't train on me like I thought they would.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:05 AM

So why reveal silencer?

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:05 AM

View PostH.D., on 03 March 2012 - 04:00 AM, said:

View PostBent, on 03 March 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

Nope, because if you waited until Day 3 to reveal or 4, then Silencer could have fired, hit or missed, and you would still be safe, because you are a good lynch target. This buys team inno an extra day HD.


If you didn't get me lynched in the mean time.

If you were in any real danger, then by all means a reveal would be appropriate, but you weren't and now we don't. But its moot now isn't it?
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:07 AM

View PostBent, on 03 March 2012 - 04:05 AM, said:

View PostH.D., on 03 March 2012 - 04:00 AM, said:

View PostBent, on 03 March 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

Nope, because if you waited until Day 3 to reveal or 4, then Silencer could have fired, hit or missed, and you would still be safe, because you are a good lynch target. This buys team inno an extra day HD.


If you didn't get me lynched in the mean time.

If you were in any real danger, then by all means a reveal would be appropriate, but you weren't and now we don't. But its moot now isn't it?


Meh, I was waiting for the train to build. I thought scum would hop on any where from vote 3-5 and I would have looked there. But, with Silencer's statement I felt necessary to out the situation.

I'd be lying if a part of me wasn't paranoid that everybody had some sort of vig and it was last man standing for a bit or some other crazy shenanigan.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:08 AM

i wouldn't mind if one of you lynched Vengy.
he's done nothing to make me suspicious this game, which makes my hackles rise.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:08 AM

View PostGrief, on 03 March 2012 - 04:05 AM, said:

So why reveal silencer?


Not the most convincing reason ever. (Busy and why not). Did you not read me asking him?

Which weirdly makes me buy it for some reason.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:09 AM

View PostH.D., on 03 March 2012 - 04:04 AM, said:

View PostD, on 03 March 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

IMO,

This would be a shitacularly stupid play if HD and/or Silencer were killers.

If one/both of them are symps, it certainly does distract a lot, but it's not like anyone was really getting much pressure that they needed distracting from. And then if they get called on it and don't prove the reveal, they haven't really gained anything. Or if everyone belives them, they get NK'd by the killers.


So I don't see how this could benefit them if they were scum...


The only good part is that scum can't really go after me during the day for fear that I'll nuke 'em from orbit. The bad part is that I'm probably dying soon. But, I've weighed the options. People didn't train on me like I thought they would.


Yeah, unless there is a train they can jump on. Or are you going to threaten to vig the first person to vote you to dissuade it at all?

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:10 AM

View PostMentalist, on 03 March 2012 - 04:08 AM, said:

i wouldn't mind if one of you lynched Vengy.
he's done nothing to make me suspicious this game, which makes my hackles rise.


He crossed my line earlier. Post count is up there, but much like Stalker hasn't really done anything to stand out. D'rek's up there because she was so ready to lynch whomever Day 1, but I understand day 1 lynches, so she's next level.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:10 AM

View PostD, on 03 March 2012 - 04:09 AM, said:

View PostH.D., on 03 March 2012 - 04:04 AM, said:

View PostD, on 03 March 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

IMO,

This would be a shitacularly stupid play if HD and/or Silencer were killers.

If one/both of them are symps, it certainly does distract a lot, but it's not like anyone was really getting much pressure that they needed distracting from. And then if they get called on it and don't prove the reveal, they haven't really gained anything. Or if everyone belives them, they get NK'd by the killers.


So I don't see how this could benefit them if they were scum...


The only good part is that scum can't really go after me during the day for fear that I'll nuke 'em from orbit. The bad part is that I'm probably dying soon. But, I've weighed the options. People didn't train on me like I thought they would.


Yeah, unless there is a train they can jump on. Or are you going to threaten to vig the first person to vote you to dissuade it at all?


that would be horrible play, imo. it'd totally get him lynched.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:11 AM

View PostD, on 03 March 2012 - 04:09 AM, said:

View PostH.D., on 03 March 2012 - 04:04 AM, said:

View PostD, on 03 March 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

IMO,

This would be a shitacularly stupid play if HD and/or Silencer were killers.

If one/both of them are symps, it certainly does distract a lot, but it's not like anyone was really getting much pressure that they needed distracting from. And then if they get called on it and don't prove the reveal, they haven't really gained anything. Or if everyone belives them, they get NK'd by the killers.


So I don't see how this could benefit them if they were scum...


The only good part is that scum can't really go after me during the day for fear that I'll nuke 'em from orbit. The bad part is that I'm probably dying soon. But, I've weighed the options. People didn't train on me like I thought they would.


Yeah, unless there is a train they can jump on. Or are you going to threaten to vig the first person to vote you to dissuade it at all?


No. Just makes things more convenient for me. That's selfish, but I did say "the only good part." Other than informing town, of course.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:11 AM

View PostH.D., on 03 March 2012 - 04:08 AM, said:

View PostGrief, on 03 March 2012 - 04:05 AM, said:

So why reveal silencer?


Not the most convincing reason ever. (Busy and why not). Did you not read me asking him?

Which weirdly makes me buy it for some reason.


Can't say it does for me. Silencer is not the most whimsical of mafia players imo.

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Grief, FFS will you do something with your sig, it's bloody awful


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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:12 AM

View PostH.D., on 03 March 2012 - 04:10 AM, said:

View PostMentalist, on 03 March 2012 - 04:08 AM, said:

i wouldn't mind if one of you lynched Vengy.
he's done nothing to make me suspicious this game, which makes my hackles rise.


He crossed my line earlier. Post count is up there, but much like Stalker hasn't really done anything to stand out. D'rek's up there because she was so ready to lynch whomever Day 1, but I understand day 1 lynches, so she's next level.


he's been much less of a presence than usual. in fact, the only thing I really remeber of him is making snide comments towards the newb game. Coasting more than a scum Silencer, atm.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:12 AM

But again, the M&P thing is not a wash with even 2 day vigs. So I think that M&P (mostly) is appropriate. You shouting in the corner made no sense then and less sense now. Its scum v town with a couple of town roles at least. Still M&P - not high TMDI like cult or even test games. So you flipped out because you had one vig that was during the day? I get the reveal after Silencer played his cards a little, but you were shouting in the corner early. I havent played in a long time, but I still don get it, not really. But like I said done is done.
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