[Grief]

How about you two vig each other to prove it...

I'm calling BS, btw

[Stalker]

If we have 2 day vigs, and night vigs as well, that seems like a ton of vigs. I'd guess the dissociated killers in the night.

[HoosierDaddy]

It's a day-vig. No either day or night. Just day.

[Grief]

Or even better, one of you vig Dkt.

[Stalker]

D, on 03 March 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

Stalker, on 03 March 2012 - 03:37 AM, said:

H.D., on 03 March 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

I'm a day-vig.

well that is interesting, I was expecting that you were gonna claim that you vigged Dude when you said "I've done what I needed to do." Of course, there is a way to prove it, but considering I'm at the top of your list, I don't want to find out.

If he's a day vig he can't have vigged The Dude, though. Unless it's a day-or-night-vig...

well yeah, but prior to his reveal, based on that earlier post I was thinking he vigged Dude, but of course that doesn't make sense now, and why I am thinking 2 seperate killers.

[D'rek]

Silencer, on 03 March 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

D, on 02 March 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Silencer, on 02 March 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

Oh hello everyone.


So, I uh, got a bit busy once I actually GOT to uni, and then I was suddenly on the bus home, then straight to work, then home for dinner, now finally getting online. Going to be in like an hour, too, just fyi. Does that account for my absence? "




And don't give me that "practically voted night" crap; anyone who didn't vote on day one or who voted for an unsuccessful train is doing exactly the same thing, and you all know it. There was no clear leader and it was, as they say, typical day one cases all around, so it's not like placing a vote would have actually affected the lynch outcome AT ALL. Fuck off.

Moreover, notice that our beloved high-posters are carefully giving themselves lynch options, but are always keeping our horrible, dirty low-posters at the forefront of everybody's minds. :asuspicious:

If everyone did this we wouldn't have any lynch at all, making day 2 a new day 1, and then you do it again and day 3 becomes another day 1...

Even if it is a while before timeout, it is better to put an opinion and vote down than nothing. Not only does it give the thread something to work from and might help achieve a lynch, but it also puts a reinforced opinion from you on-thread. Instead, you abstained and as a result now no one has any sort of read on you because it seems like you haven't given any opinions or contributed much at all, and naturally that seems suspicious.

Herp derp, if everyone low-posted we wouldn't have a game at all, either, but here's the thing: it's NOT everyone, it was ME. Besides which, this is a vets game. Are you seriously claiming we never fail to get a lynch on day one? Do you not recall the fact that as of the last game I played we practically hadn't had a day one lynch in excess of twenty games? It happens ALL THE TIME and very rarely is it the fault of the one guy who chose not to vote because it was literally nothing cases. And look, Lizra still got lynched! And I'd hardly have been voting Lizra for a 'case' that applies equally well to me - if not BETTER, seeing as Liz actually just had jack-all posts - anyway. So where is the problem?
And I put down my opinion. Are you not getting that? My opinion was NOTHING WAS WORTH VOTING FOR AND LOCKING MY VOTE ONTO A TRAIN WOULD HAVE EITHER NULLED MY VOTE JUST AS WELL OR WOULD HAVE PUSHED A TRAIN ARBITRARILY DUE TO NUMBERS. AHURR DURR. So have you got my opinion? YES. Did you have the same opinion yesterday when I signed off? YES. Even inaction is a choice, D'rek.

So you're flinging arguments my way that are predicated on extrapolation to group behaviour and flimsy complaints about lack of opinion. Whooo. Aren't we a god-tier mafia player. I mean, heck, LOOK AT ALL THE INFO YOU GOT OFF PEOPLE'S VOTES YESTERDAY. OH WAIT.

So from this, I get that Silencer is special and can disregard standard play because he is so special? It's not okay if everyone does it but it's okay if Silencer does it?

Well fine, if you want to stand by your "inaction is a choice", then that is how my opinion of your chances of being town or scum will be made, and frankly it doesn't reflect well on you then.

[HoosierDaddy]

Grief, on 03 March 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

How about you two vig each other to prove it...

I'm calling BS, btw

Go back to how early I started saying this wasn't M and P. If I've been setting up something like that to only reveal non-pressured then I suck at Mafia more than I ever imagined.

[bubba]

OK.......Two reveals with out any heat.....riiiiiiiiight...

[HoosierDaddy]

Stalker, on 03 March 2012 - 03:40 AM, said:

D, on 03 March 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

Stalker, on 03 March 2012 - 03:37 AM, said:

H.D., on 03 March 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

I'm a day-vig.

well that is interesting, I was expecting that you were gonna claim that you vigged Dude when you said "I've done what I needed to do." Of course, there is a way to prove it, but considering I'm at the top of your list, I don't want to find out.

If he's a day vig he can't have vigged The Dude, though. Unless it's a day-or-night-vig...

well yeah, but prior to his reveal, based on that earlier post I was thinking he vigged Dude, but of course that doesn't make sense now, and why I am thinking 2 seperate killers.

Go back to my post right after night when two people died and see that I mentioned disparate killers was definitely in-play. Though, I did think it was a vig at the time, considering I have a day-vig, and thought Ment might have just offed The Dude in grudge time.

[Silencer]

Mine is single-use, just btw. And HD and I obviously cannot vig each other as one action would resolve first, you noob.

I'm quite happy to prove my ability through use, but thus my early suggestion that doing so would require doing something non-standard and, quite frankly, foolish. It deprives us of (most likely) one inno to get a VPI on another inno who is now powerless and likely to die soon thereafter. Though if HD and I both VPI ourselves and the killers don't have two night-kills...well...

*ponders*

[Bent]

Alright, then we can easily test HD's power before time out, and since he revealed, scum would probably want him out soonish to avoid his dangerous role. So he can act and its early enough to where we have enough townies to take the hit if he chooses wrong. I personally think that he's bullshitting, but for the life of me I dont know why the fuck you would reveal that you are a day vig this early.

You are a good lynch target, which makes you a bad target to night kill. But now, if you don't prove you are in fact a day vig, and possibly waste your shot, then team scum might let you live to give themselves one more day. Because if you are still alive, then you are an even better target for town. Rough spot there HD. Not a judgement, but at best it was an uncalled for reveal. And it wasn't a role that would take this out of M&P in my opinion, not worth bringing up in fact. Now, if you are a symp, it would be a very good play.

Not sure what to do here. But

Remove fucking Vote

Until I can figure this out. Is there a freeze on now, r is the clock running?

[Grief]

H.D., on 03 March 2012 - 03:41 AM, said:

Grief, on 03 March 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

How about you two vig each other to prove it...

I'm calling BS, btw

Go back to how early I started saying this wasn't M and P. If I've been setting up something like that to only reveal non-pressured then I suck at Mafia more than I ever imagined.

Hey, chances are you're high priority for scum to kill. If you're a vig, may as well vig Dkt.

Worst case scenario he's inno and you still vigged Dkt.

It's more the fact that you both revealed, and happened to have the same role that seems unlikely...Also, why is Silencer revealing at this stage, you were nearly lynched yesterday, he's had a bit of pressure today but not that much.

[HoosierDaddy]

Reveals always make things interesting. But, Silencer, why did you out of the blue say that. I was going to keep shouting into the corner until your post.

[Grief]

HD, vig silencer please?

[HoosierDaddy]

Lol, if I vig somebody it's going to be somebody I choose guys. Yesterday I had JA in a PM ready to go if I got to 6 votes and thought I was going down.

[Silencer]

H.D., on 03 March 2012 - 03:44 AM, said:

Reveals always make things interesting. But, Silencer, why did you out of the blue say that. I was going to keep shouting into the corner until your post.

Which part? XD

[Silencer]

Grief, on 03 March 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

HD, vig silencer please?

Do you want me to vig YOU, Grief?

[HoosierDaddy]

When you just out of the blue implied you had a day-kill of some sort and it prompted my reaction.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. The clock has been frozen with 11 Hours and 07 Minutes remaining.
14 Players still alive: Bent, Bubba, D'rek, Dktorode, Grief, H.D., Jump Around, K0rbas, Macros, Mentalist, Obdigore, Silencer, Stalker, Vengeance

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for H.D. ( Bubba )
2 Votes for Silencer ( Mentalist, Jump Around )
1 Vote for Vengeance ( Dktorode )
2 Votes for Dktorode ( Grief, Macros )

Players not voted: Bent, D'rek, H.D., K0rbas, Obdigore, Silencer, Stalker, Vengeance

[Bent]

Thread got busy and I missed Silencers reveal. Fuck this just got real.