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Mafia 84 (a) NEWB GAME don't fucking post in the wrong thread.

#161 User is offline   Atrahal 

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:28 PM

 Thyrllan, on 29 February 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:

 Karatallid, on 29 February 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

Why does faking being a newbie make one vote worthy? We have others who are going for a newb appearance (like Anthras with asking how to bold) and one person who is announcing himself as a Vet (GL).

Nah, I think a person trying to blend in looks more like Thyr, lots of posting, voting once and promptly removing his vote, helpfully responding when ever he can (conversing about multiquoting, and the all-telling asking a lot of questions), or and throwing out suspicions left and right like candy without laying down a case or long standing vote.

I mean, who do you think we should vote for Thyr?

Vote Thyr



You come from nowhere with this? Have you posted before in this game? The vote did its job of getting a response, perfectly legit move. This is a tired case you pull out, man. Would you prefer to dragonsex?


I didn;t even vote for you yet



So far the Tiam/Merrid & Okaros things are on top of the stemaing pile


So now apparently playing normally constitutes as trying to blend in, which is now a HUGE sign of being symp.
Along with that comes helpful posts and speculations? Seriously. Its okay to be a newb. It is not okay to be a dumbass.

I mean, usually somebody who is acting strangely is put up for suspicion. For example, speculating that someone is suspicious because they are behaving normally. You currently qualify for the first one, Kara.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:33 PM

You misunderstand Atrahal, probably intentionally. I say that he is not playing normally but rather lying low in plain sight. Case and point, did you see Thyr's response to my accusations: questions followed by redirection. Thyr is playing in a fashion that allows him to integrate into the game but without actually doing much and without commitment, allowing him to slide through the day. That's all I'm pointing out.

And since it seems to be in vogue, I point out that you are defending Thyr, so therefore you have to be a symp /sarcasm.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:39 PM

Thank you for the clarification.
Your statement that I am defending Thyr, however, is incorrect.
A page ago, I questioned him because he called someone a symp, because they questioned him on a pretty random vote.

Also, I see your point on his redirections. I will read more into that...apologies for jumping the gun.

I am not sarcasm, I was implementing it. Not in this post, the last one.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:41 PM

 Karatallid, on 29 February 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

You misunderstand Atrahal, probably intentionally. I say that he is not playing normally but rather lying low in plain sight. Case and point, did you see Thyr's response to my accusations: questions followed by redirection. Thyr is playing in a fashion that allows him to integrate into the game but without actually doing much and without commitment, allowing him to slide through the day. That's all I'm pointing out.

And since it seems to be in vogue, I point out that you are defending Thyr, so therefore you have to be a symp /sarcasm.



You also probably should have stated your point, then explained. I misunderstood why you had posted what you did, because you listed the sypmtoms, not the problem.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:42 PM

 Atrahal, on 29 February 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Thank you for the clarification.
Your statement that I am defending Thyr, however, is incorrect.
A page ago, I questioned him because he called someone a symp, because they questioned him on a pretty random vote.

Also, I see your point on his redirections. I will read more into that...apologies for jumping the gun.

I am not sarcasm, I was implementing it. Not in this post, the last one.


Fair enough, and you shouldn't apologize, this is mafia after all dear :sad:

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:45 PM

Okay since I am damn near halfway lynched I think I need to analysis my situation.

 Okaros, on 29 February 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

Well I have to slither off for a while. I don't usually have much stamina when it comes to dragon secks anyways. Just to be a dick I'm voting for someone that hasn't even checked in yet. That and this alt was scum last game (I love solid reasonings like this to make cases)

Vote Karatallid


I have no idea why Anthras voted me for this comment. I clearly said I was being a dick for doing this and I wanted to spur conversation which happened. But whatever. One vote on me early in the day I'm not going to sweat it.

 Anthras, on 29 February 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

Hmmm I sense a pattern. Or it may be Okaros just trying to throw people off his scent. Hence

vot Okaros



 Anthras, on 29 February 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

Its mainly due to the point that he is automatically assuming that as someone was scum in previous games they will be in this one too. Not only that I think that its below the belt voting for someone who cant yet defend themselves.


Second vote on me was from Tia. He went to the trouble of quoting a lot of my posts (which I didn't bother to requote as there were a lot) trying to paint a picture of me as someone that is trying to fit in and as someone that feels like I'm trying to hide something. Again whatever. Town needs to make cases on each other and gauge people's response to see if they are onto something or not. Still no big deal. Though having Kara come on and defend me after I voted for him is truely odd. Puts me in a bad situation and if Kara is symping it is clearly fake symping and then validates why I voted for him in the first place. And as Tia clearly forgets to mention I DID voted for Kara.



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

 Okaros, on 29 February 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Hmmmm.

Since this seems to be a learning game for me and I'm trying to get over the fear factor of actually asking questions to learn how to navigate and better utilize the forum I would like to know how do you look up people's post counts? The reason that I ask is that I'm being accused of lurking when I believe that I have quite a few more posts than most of the other players in this game. I'm trying to enjoying the day 1 sillyness but Tia is such a buzz kill that now I have to go and defend myself from having fun.

So this is how It seems to me right now. I accuse Anthras of overreacting to my vote on Kara and called him a symp for said overreaction. Now Tia comes out of the woodwork and makes a "case" on me after my said comment regarding Anthras. Because Tia made a case on me however weak it is it looks like Tia is defending Anthras. Maybe I was wrong and Anthras might be a killer and Tia is the symp. Or maybe they are paired killers trying to look out for each other. I'll have to keep my eye on those three.


This looks like a scum's plea of innocence.

Vote Okaros


Now we come to this vote by Alkend. His reasoning doesn't make any sense. Plea of innocence? I'm stating my reaction to other peoples reactions. People can make their conclusions. But of everything that has gone down today this to me is the scummiest play by far. This screams of a "AHA!!!, Okaros is going to get himself lynched. Lets put another vote on him to really get the ball rolling and let the rest of the sheep follow along" vibe.

This is either a very lazy townie or a scum player pushing town along toward a lynch. I'm betting it's the latter.

vote Alkend

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:46 PM

 Karatallid, on 29 February 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

 Atrahal, on 29 February 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Thank you for the clarification.
Your statement that I am defending Thyr, however, is incorrect.
A page ago, I questioned him because he called someone a symp, because they questioned him on a pretty random vote.

Also, I see your point on his redirections. I will read more into that...apologies for jumping the gun.

I am not sarcasm, I was implementing it. Not in this post, the last one.


Fair enough, and you shouldn't apologize, this is mafia after all dear :sad:


Oh, but as a proper gentleman, it is my duty!
If I began acting like those vets -ahem- My monocle could become fogged up.
I would be no better than the scum that plague our delightful game..

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:46 PM

Thyr, have you not been reading the Vet thread? Voting to get a response is not a legit move if the vote is based on bullshit. Grief says it better than I can:

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Doing something like casting a weak vote for a reaction is stupid because the reaction is completely justified. Pointing at it and going "ooh look, a reaction, something fishy here" when the reaction was provoked by deliberately bad play that deserved a reaction is not useful play in the slightest.


And if you think I was overreacting, you have obviously never played with some of the vets, who would tear you a new one for something so stupid.

Mostly my reaction was based on the "don't test me" comment, which really got my back up. Why would I not test you? This is Mafia. Testing people is what it is about.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:53 PM

 Merrid, on 29 February 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

Thyr, have you not been reading the Vet thread? Voting to get a response is not a legit move if the vote is based on bullshit. Grief says it better than I can:

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Doing something like casting a weak vote for a reaction is stupid because the reaction is completely justified. Pointing at it and going "ooh look, a reaction, something fishy here" when the reaction was provoked by deliberately bad play that deserved a reaction is not useful play in the slightest.


And if you think I was overreacting, you have obviously never played with some of the vets, who would tear you a new one for something so stupid.

Mostly my reaction was based on the "don't test me" comment, which really got my back up. Why would I not test you? This is Mafia. Testing people is what it is about.



If you read that post, I said I could post something stupider. C'mon how can that be anything too serious? I'm talking about something preposterous here. You overreacted to a gentle poke, imo. Aimed at someone else, as well

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:54 PM

And quoting from outside the game, in another game ongoing is lame. This is not the vet game.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:58 PM

Well I have to leave. I would tell you to not do anythingstupid while I'm gone, but that's inevitable.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:20 PM

Ugh, ok, maybe I overreacted a little. I got lynched for the dumbest reasons last time I played. However, there was nothing to indicate that your second comment was sarcastic, and in a game filled with newbies I'm not sure what to expect and how much to take seriously.

On to the Okaros case. I'm wondering if Okaros actually read the case that Tiam made on him. The point of Tiam's case, if I'm reading it rght, is that Okaros stands out because in several posts he emphasises his noobishness, but then also seems to have a fair amount of knowledge about game play and people's styles. And Tiam clearly MUST remember Okaros' vote, as it's quoted in her case.

Okaros' original reply, the one quoted by Alkend, is also pinging my scum radar. It mentions Tiam's case but makes no reply to it, and accuses Tiam of being a symp. So from what I can see, Okaros' main defence is that people targeting him must be scum, because they are targeting him to deflect away from other people. I don't buy this.

Vote Okaros

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:24 PM

Once again sorry for not being active today, seemed like the day turned out to be busier than i anticipated.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:31 PM

 Barghast, on 29 February 2012 - 11:24 PM, said:

Once again sorry for not being active today, seemed like the day turned out to be busier than i anticipated.


Don't worry, you still have about 19 hours to catch up :sad:

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:37 PM

Because his vote on me pinged me as being scummy I went and took a look at Alkend. This is everything that he has posted throughout the game. For being one of the higher posters in the game he has a remarkable lack of any content whatsoever. Almost all of it are 1 liners or dragon sex comments. Then his drive by vote on me and then promptly leaves. How is it that none besides me finds his behavior off?

 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

Present



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 02:03 PM, said:

Sucking? Its about time you put one of those mouths to use Tiamatha... FINALLY some dragonsecks! Who wants to be first with lovely Alkend????



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

 Anthras, on 29 February 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

Thyrllan its not wrinkly enough for the old timers to recognise what it is neither is it shrivelled enough.


Is glad you know the difference between puny/flaccid and hard/throbbing cock.


Barghast, they are dissappointed that we aren't having enough sex... Care to join Anthras and me?



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

 Korabas, on 29 February 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

Quite well thank you


This politeness does suck.

Vote Korabas



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

 Thyrllan, on 29 February 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

oh noes



Stop whimpering and get over here BITCH!



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

 Grief, on 29 February 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

Aww, they're having dragonsex to meet our expectations.

That would almost be cute if it wasn't disturbing as fuck.


It's more disturbing that you are watching.. sick fucker...



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

 Tiamatha, on 29 February 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

 Tiamatha, on 29 February 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

 Thyrllan, on 29 February 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

 Thyrllan, on 29 February 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

oh noes



Stop whimpering and get over here BITCH!



Thats the first time I've ever heard someone say that as they bent over in submission

backing in



tail held high wagging



Cum to join us?



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

Pathshaper, can you grab a couple bottles of scotch from the vet game? This dragonsecks is making me thirsty.



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:

 K0rbas, on 29 February 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

Korbas checking in.







Hehehehehe.



Wrong game mate, unless you're just here for the dragonsecks.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:37 PM

Broken up to fit it all.

 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

 Anthras, on 29 February 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

No not that kind of help I was thinking morre along the lines of a slep or a dress down.

If I participate in the dragonorgy can I be forgiven? Haha


I don't remember any commandments against dragonsecks.



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

 K0rbas, on 29 February 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:

 K0rbas, on 29 February 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

Korbas checking in.







Hehehehehe.



Wrong game mate, unless you're just here for the dragonsecks.




Silly noob, it wasn't a dragon called Korbas, it was me Khell all along! MWAHAHAAHAHAHA!


Silly noob.



You don't say? Fucking arse. Go back to playing with the rest of the wrinkled up and spent oldtimers.



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

 Okaros, on 29 February 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

The game started out so nice and pleasant and then you had to spin it down into the depth of depravity. Good thing I'm a voyeur at heart. Please continue.



*grabs Okaros by the tail* You're not getting away that easy little dragon...



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

 Thyrllan, on 29 February 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

So are we waiting for GH to show up and hit us with a RP onslaught?
Wonder what it'll be this time...



 Okaros, on 29 February 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

How the Frack do you use multiquote!!! I can't get it to do anything.


Maybe he's roleplaying as being a noob... *eyes Okaros suspiciously"



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

 Okaros, on 29 February 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

 Thyrllan, on 29 February 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

So are we waiting for GH to show up and hit us with a RP onslaught?
Wonder what it'll be this time...



 Okaros, on 29 February 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

How the Frack do you use multiquote!!! I can't get it to do anything.


Maybe he's roleplaying as being a noob... *eyes Okaros suspiciously"


Who the fuck is roleplaying. I really would like to know what I'm doing wrong. It is a pain to have to individually reply to posts. Open another tab with the game on, paste the quotes in the new tab's reply screen, go back to the old tab, reply to another post, copy and paste in the new tab every time I want to quote more than one post at a time.


You have to use the Full Editor.



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 05:18 PM, said:

Time to head home. I'll be back on in a bit with a drink in hand.



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

There's not nearly enough shite talking and paranoid accusations on here. Still no Korlat, Merrid, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, or Atrahal. I might vote for one of them if they don't show up.

Remove Vote





 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

 Okaros, on 29 February 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Hmmmm.

Since this seems to be a learning game for me and I'm trying to get over the fear factor of actually asking questions to learn how to navigate and better utilize the forum I would like to know how do you look up people's post counts? The reason that I ask is that I'm being accused of lurking when I believe that I have quite a few more posts than most of the other players in this game. I'm trying to enjoying the day 1 sillyness but Tia is such a buzz kill that now I have to go and defend myself from having fun.

So this is how It seems to me right now. I accuse Anthras of overreacting to my vote on Kara and called him a symp for said overreaction. Now Tia comes out of the woodwork and makes a "case" on me after my said comment regarding Anthras. Because Tia made a case on me however weak it is it looks like Tia is defending Anthras. Maybe I was wrong and Anthras might be a killer and Tia is the symp. Or maybe they are paired killers trying to look out for each other. I'll have to keep my eye on those three.


This looks like a scum's plea of innocence.

Vote Okaros


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:46 PM

 Merrid, on 29 February 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Ugh, ok, maybe I overreacted a little. I got lynched for the dumbest reasons last time I played. However, there was nothing to indicate that your second comment was sarcastic, and in a game filled with newbies I'm not sure what to expect and how much to take seriously.

On to the Okaros case. I'm wondering if Okaros actually read the case that Tiam made on him. The point of Tiam's case, if I'm reading it rght, is that Okaros stands out because in several posts he emphasises his noobishness, but then also seems to have a fair amount of knowledge about game play and people's styles. And Tiam clearly MUST remember Okaros' vote, as it's quoted in her case.

Okaros' original reply, the one quoted by Alkend, is also pinging my scum radar. It mentions Tiam's case but makes no reply to it, and accuses Tiam of being a symp. So from what I can see, Okaros' main defence is that people targeting him must be scum, because they are targeting him to deflect away from other people. I don't buy this.

Vote Okaros



Yes I've read the case against me and it's shit. It didn't really warrant a defense.

Oh no, he's acting too new!!! Oh no, he's acting too vet!!!

Serously?!

You are voting for me not because you think I'm scum but because you think I'm a better player than you are and are intimidated by me? That is essentially what you are saying. Don't you care about trying to find scum? Seriously people. I can have experience playing mafia AND not know how certain forum functions work. They are not mutually exclusive. The fact that I have 4 votes on me with damn near a whole day to go on Day 1 tells me that there is almost certainly scum on my train and my bet is it's Alkend. Though with the reactions that I mentioned that Tia and Anthras had to my inital vote on Kara I wouldn't count either of them out either.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:46 PM

 Okaros, on 29 February 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

Okay since I am damn near halfway lynched I think I need to analysis my situation.

 Okaros, on 29 February 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

Well I have to slither off for a while. I don't usually have much stamina when it comes to dragon secks anyways. Just to be a dick I'm voting for someone that hasn't even checked in yet. That and this alt was scum last game (I love solid reasonings like this to make cases)

Vote Karatallid


I have no idea why Anthras voted me for this comment. I clearly said I was being a dick for doing this and I wanted to spur conversation which happened. But whatever. One vote on me early in the day I'm not going to sweat it.

 Anthras, on 29 February 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

Hmmm I sense a pattern. Or it may be Okaros just trying to throw people off his scent. Hence

vot Okaros



 Anthras, on 29 February 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

Its mainly due to the point that he is automatically assuming that as someone was scum in previous games they will be in this one too. Not only that I think that its below the belt voting for someone who cant yet defend themselves.


Second vote on me was from Tia. He went to the trouble of quoting a lot of my posts (which I didn't bother to requote as there were a lot) trying to paint a picture of me as someone that is trying to fit in and as someone that feels like I'm trying to hide something. Again whatever. Town needs to make cases on each other and gauge people's response to see if they are onto something or not. Still no big deal. Though having Kara come on and defend me after I voted for him is truely odd. Puts me in a bad situation and if Kara is symping it is clearly fake symping and then validates why I voted for him in the first place. And as Tia clearly forgets to mention I DID voted for Kara.



 Alkend, on 29 February 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

 Okaros, on 29 February 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Hmmmm.

Since this seems to be a learning game for me and I'm trying to get over the fear factor of actually asking questions to learn how to navigate and better utilize the forum I would like to know how do you look up people's post counts? The reason that I ask is that I'm being accused of lurking when I believe that I have quite a few more posts than most of the other players in this game. I'm trying to enjoying the day 1 sillyness but Tia is such a buzz kill that now I have to go and defend myself from having fun.

So this is how It seems to me right now. I accuse Anthras of overreacting to my vote on Kara and called him a symp for said overreaction. Now Tia comes out of the woodwork and makes a "case" on me after my said comment regarding Anthras. Because Tia made a case on me however weak it is it looks like Tia is defending Anthras. Maybe I was wrong and Anthras might be a killer and Tia is the symp. Or maybe they are paired killers trying to look out for each other. I'll have to keep my eye on those three.


This looks like a scum's plea of innocence.

Vote Okaros


Now we come to this vote by Alkend. His reasoning doesn't make any sense. Plea of innocence? I'm stating my reaction to other peoples reactions. People can make their conclusions. But of everything that has gone down today this to me is the scummiest play by far. This screams of a "AHA!!!, Okaros is going to get himself lynched. Lets put another vote on him to really get the ball rolling and let the rest of the sheep follow along" vibe.

This is either a very lazy townie or a scum player pushing town along toward a lynch. I'm betting it's the latter.

vote Alkend


You've got me, I'm fucking lazy and I didn't want to just copy everything Tiam quoted. I think you're the scum and Kara looks like your symp.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:50 PM

Alkend

Still no post with any worthwhile content.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:51 PM

And he admits that he is being lazy and doens't want to put a reason down for voting anyone. Scummy play if there ever was any.

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