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Posted 30 March 2026 - 08:48 PM

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Posted 31 March 2026 - 07:43 AM

View PostQuickTidal, on 30 March 2026 - 02:41 PM, said:

View PostWhisperzzzzzzz, on 30 March 2026 - 07:38 AM, said:

I still just don't understand what people expected. Is Trump just a a blank slate that they applied all their hopes and dreams to? Because he certainly was not somebody who anybody that paid attention would expect to be for the common person... or, any person really but himself



View PostMacros, on 30 March 2026 - 02:05 PM, said:

Yeah, not once in his life has he been anything but selfish.

What exactly was expected?
How can you stand by the human turd still?


I think a significant bunch of truly uneducated or at least conspiracy-minded individuals in the States REALLY thought that as an "outsider", he would "drain the swamp" of the "elites" the boomers had watched destroy things in US govt since Vietnam...but once he got into that power the sunk cost fallacy dropped into place, and then Biden's term only reinforced the "old white man establishment" they thought Trump would destroy (with him still prattling on to his followers from outside the office of the White House for 4 years)...so they blindly voted for him and the Republicans again in the same stupid and fervent hope that he would destroy those people....only to learn way too late that all the stuff they painted Harris with, he is instead doing.

I'm not saying this was a good thing, but watching the Boomers go from young hippies who distrusted the establishment for sending them and their friends to die in a pointless war, to eventual septuagenarians falling for a con man's whole entire schtick about how he would fix it, only to stand there gobsmacked that they were conned...is one of the wildest things I've ever seen I'm my life. they say the last person in on the Con is the "mark"....in this case the Mark is everyone who fell for his shit, or is still falling for it.


Drain the swamp? The orange turd IS the swamp. Now with extra sewage thanks to his administration's constant purging of everything decent and responsible in Government.

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Posted 31 March 2026 - 08:02 AM

8 million people attending NO Kings marches.

Which ultimately alas, like the other 2 will achieve nothing.

You 8 million people, I fully respect you turning out, you are at least trying, now take a step that matters, punch his enablers in the dick hole, boycott any service or company that toadys up to Trump and his ilk, let them know why you are boycotting them. Any MAGA wearing gimp you know? Force them out of your life and let them know clearly why, they are continuing to support the man that is breaking your country, let alone is a rapist and very probably paedophile.

Until it hurts corporations pockets they will continue to support him. Disney backed down on Kimmel when people cancelled subscriptions, where 8s that level of outrage and action on Trump?

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Posted 31 March 2026 - 08:25 AM

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Posted 31 March 2026 - 11:21 AM

View PostMacros, on 31 March 2026 - 08:02 AM, said:

8 million people attending NO Kings marches.

Which ultimately alas, like the other 2 will achieve nothing.

You 8 million people, I fully respect you turning out, you are at least trying, now take a step that matters, punch his enablers in the dick hole, boycott any service or company that toadys up to Trump and his ilk, let them know why you are boycotting them. Any MAGA wearing gimp you know? Force them out of your life and let them know clearly why, they are continuing to support the man that is breaking your country, let alone is a rapist and very probably paedophile.

Until it hurts corporations pockets they will continue to support him. Disney backed down on Kimmel when people cancelled subscriptions, where 8s that level of outrage and action on Trump?

Hell you marched on McaDonalds for Siracha sauce


This. In fact every single republican enabler in congress and the Senate should NEVER know peace, stand outside their homes with pots and pans, follow them to restaurants, they should literally have to hide in caves to be away from you. The fact that all the people who could stop this today right now are allowed to just live their lives peacefully....is the problem. They are not afraid of you as a populace. They should be.

FFS Lindsey Graham was at Disneyworld....there should have been people at and around him yelling at him till he left.

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Posted 31 March 2026 - 11:22 AM

View PostTsundoku, on 31 March 2026 - 07:43 AM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 30 March 2026 - 02:41 PM, said:

View PostWhisperzzzzzzz, on 30 March 2026 - 07:38 AM, said:

I still just don't understand what people expected. Is Trump just a a blank slate that they applied all their hopes and dreams to? Because he certainly was not somebody who anybody that paid attention would expect to be for the common person... or, any person really but himself



View PostMacros, on 30 March 2026 - 02:05 PM, said:

Yeah, not once in his life has he been anything but selfish.

What exactly was expected?
How can you stand by the human turd still?


I think a significant bunch of truly uneducated or at least conspiracy-minded individuals in the States REALLY thought that as an "outsider", he would "drain the swamp" of the "elites" the boomers had watched destroy things in US govt since Vietnam...but once he got into that power the sunk cost fallacy dropped into place, and then Biden's term only reinforced the "old white man establishment" they thought Trump would destroy (with him still prattling on to his followers from outside the office of the White House for 4 years)...so they blindly voted for him and the Republicans again in the same stupid and fervent hope that he would destroy those people....only to learn way too late that all the stuff they painted Harris with, he is instead doing.

I'm not saying this was a good thing, but watching the Boomers go from young hippies who distrusted the establishment for sending them and their friends to die in a pointless war, to eventual septuagenarians falling for a con man's whole entire schtick about how he would fix it, only to stand there gobsmacked that they were conned...is one of the wildest things I've ever seen I'm my life. they say the last person in on the Con is the "mark"....in this case the Mark is everyone who fell for his shit, or is still falling for it.


Drain the swamp? The orange turd IS the swamp. Now with extra sewage thanks to his administration's constant purging of everything decent and responsible in Government.


100% he is...but a whole slew of Boomers really believed him when he said it.
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Posted 31 March 2026 - 01:50 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 31 March 2026 - 11:22 AM, said:

View PostTsundoku, on 31 March 2026 - 07:43 AM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 30 March 2026 - 02:41 PM, said:

View PostWhisperzzzzzzz, on 30 March 2026 - 07:38 AM, said:

I still just don't understand what people expected. Is Trump just a a blank slate that they applied all their hopes and dreams to? Because he certainly was not somebody who anybody that paid attention would expect to be for the common person... or, any person really but himself



View PostMacros, on 30 March 2026 - 02:05 PM, said:

Yeah, not once in his life has he been anything but selfish.

What exactly was expected?
How can you stand by the human turd still?


I think a significant bunch of truly uneducated or at least conspiracy-minded individuals in the States REALLY thought that as an "outsider", he would "drain the swamp" of the "elites" the boomers had watched destroy things in US govt since Vietnam...but once he got into that power the sunk cost fallacy dropped into place, and then Biden's term only reinforced the "old white man establishment" they thought Trump would destroy (with him still prattling on to his followers from outside the office of the White House for 4 years)...so they blindly voted for him and the Republicans again in the same stupid and fervent hope that he would destroy those people....only to learn way too late that all the stuff they painted Harris with, he is instead doing.

I'm not saying this was a good thing, but watching the Boomers go from young hippies who distrusted the establishment for sending them and their friends to die in a pointless war, to eventual septuagenarians falling for a con man's whole entire schtick about how he would fix it, only to stand there gobsmacked that they were conned...is one of the wildest things I've ever seen I'm my life. they say the last person in on the Con is the "mark"....in this case the Mark is everyone who fell for his shit, or is still falling for it.


Drain the swamp? The orange turd IS the swamp. Now with extra sewage thanks to his administration's constant purging of everything decent and responsible in Government.


100% he is...but a whole slew of Boomers really believed him when he said it.


i still wonder whether they were more afraid of Kamala than believing in Trump.
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Posted 31 March 2026 - 03:56 PM

I understand America politics through the lense of the average voter is proud of their ignorance and 'cracked pool politics' which is the very real example of a town rather draining its pool and no one getting to swim than allowing black people to use it as well. American voters have internalized a democrat or republican identity, or are swayed by a basic check on 3 issues; abortion, guns, and taxes. After that its about denying benefits to the wrong people. Maybe that's black people, or gays, or trans people, or woman, the poor, the disabled or even just people from the wrong state but many Americans have very strong opinions about who is and isnt deserving. What they deserve from their government is no longer even a consideratio because a universal right means it will help the wrong people too.

I also think Abyss is right in that many Trump voters didnt vote for trump, they voted against Biden or Kamala. A black women is a serious liability in the states, it just is. Also there is a reason the midterms always swing against the encumbent party here. Its a reactionary vote against the status quo not necessarally for the promised change.
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Posted 31 March 2026 - 06:24 PM

Kristi Noem’s Husband Accused of Living Double Life as Crossdresser Obsessed With ‘Bimbofication’ Kink

A few things about this story.

1. Kristy Noem, and likely Byron have consistently voted against the kink that is occurring here, and treated it in MAGA and GOP spaces as a "mental illness".

2. I am not here to kink shame, be into whatever you're into as long as it's not hurting anyone...and on the surface this appears to hurt no one....but these are the same people who vote for legislation and talk shit on social media with anti-trans, anti-drag queen, anti-LGBTQ+, and basically advocating for straight white Christian trad-wife/macho man lives...so he doesn't get to hide behind this and get a safe space for it.

3. It will never not baffle me to know that this guys kink would be accepted in more leftist spheres by people seeking equality for exactly this type of alternative lifestyle...but he'd rather go closeted and have it splash out on the tabloids for days on end....and imagine if this was a Democratic lawmakers spouse...Fox News heads would be exploding and they would never shut up about it.

4. Noem and him have been married for 35 years I think, and have grandkids....so the idea that when she was vetted, this was not known is a lie. They knew. Sidebar, this also made her a blackmail target for espionage as a secret.

5. Noem saying she's shocked by this is hilarious....she's not shocked. I would put good money on this being the reason she stepped out with Lewandowski into an extra martial affair...because I guess she didn't know how to deal with a cross dressing husband who clearly likes to be a sub? I dunno.

Anyways, I think the thing I pull from this is just like Lindsay Graham constantly voting against his own closeted ass to keep in power, the same is true here, Noem was willing to vote against things like this and so was Byron...so they garner no sympathy from me on how salacious these headlines are now.

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Posted 01 April 2026 - 07:41 AM

And yet his popularity is 22% of people polled strongly approve of Trump?


What the fuck, who are these rapist approvers?
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Posted 01 April 2026 - 09:26 AM

They don't believe in reality any more. So all the evidence of his raping and noncing are just dismissed as fake news.

Look at Nico & BK you can see it in the way they speak when they show up here.
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Posted 01 April 2026 - 11:36 AM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 01 April 2026 - 09:26 AM, said:

They don't believe in reality any more. So all the evidence of his raping and noncing are just dismissed as fake news.

Look at Nico & BK you can see it in the way they speak when they show up here.


They immerse themselves (or are immersed by dint of their state or algorithm) in heavy right wing propaganda, and over the years its taken its toll.

Make no mistake, Roy Cohn teaching Trump to repeat short, easy phrases over and over and over again to his followers worked. It's what works in cults...repetition will eventually sink into even the more even headed person....stuff like Fake News has become a default....even though the definition of it boils down to "news I don;'t like or that makes me look bad is "fake news" and the fake news part has been so sunk into the population that they all just repeat it, and it allows them to ignore the thing you're bringing up and keep their brain safe from challenge.

Like remember when BK called Bernie Sanders "Comrade" and I asked him why....because nothing Bernie has ever advocated for anything communist....socialist, sure...but even Bernie in most countries would be considered center-right....but this is because the right wing sphere took socialism, conflated it with communism, linked the two and used repetition to hammer it into the people....so that now "communism" to them is "anything the left says or advocates for"...it also deliberately raises the spectre of Cold War era Soviet communism for that boogeyman, and not what current communism looks like on other places. They WANT that McCarthy-era "red scare" factor to it...that's the goal of that conflation and repetition...so that eventually...in their heads ...Bernie Sanders is no better than Lenin.

A Trumper guy at my work during the masking for Covid said that a local hotel that was holding the contract talks had a mask requirement indoors and he said "That's communism!".....uh no sir that is in fact the very DEFINITION of capitalism...a private business set a rule to keep it's staff and customers safe from the pandemic...which they ar entitled to do....because of laws about private business and capitalism.

I can even branch out, rabid terf JK Rowling posted JUST the other day about the Olympics disallowing Trans athletes....an put an exclamation point on her agreement by posting a photo of Imane Khelif winning her boxing match a few years back....a woman from Algeria...whose birth certificate literally says she's a woman...pushing the narrative that she's really a trans man...a story that falls apart on the head of it because such a thing would suggest that in Algeria, a Muslim Arab country where rights are very conservative, and very strict, homosexuality is illegal, gender change of any kind out of the question and also illegal...suggesting then that all the people present at the birth of Imane and everyone else throughout her life have hidden her "true" gender so that 26 years later she could win a boxing match?...it's so nonsensical the MOMENT you scratch any lower than the surface, disregarding that she said she was a woman and should be believed without further proof....but this is the level of dishonesty and propaganda that such people operate in....entirely fictional spaces where JKR thinks that if she suggests often enough that Imane Khelif is really a man, people will believe it...and of course the idiot that is Pierre Pollievre in my country re-tweeted her post....

Does JKR know she's wrong? She does. She still posts it because she know her rabid anti-trans followers will lap it up becuase of how much she bangs on about it.

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Posted 01 April 2026 - 12:16 PM

As an aside, one of my pet hates is when people conflate - either deliberately, knowing it's bullshit (those at the top), or out of sheer wilful ignorance (their supporters) - communism or socialism with totalitarianism or authoritarianism.

Two are economic systems and two are governmental systems. You might argue that communism is also a governmental system, except it's more accurately described as governmental control of the means of production. The government (ostensibly) being "the people". Funny thing being, every government in history that was described as being "communist" (self described as socialist) was such in name only, and in reality was simply another feudal style hierarchy, after replacing the previous one with an even worse one. Kleptocracy is another far better description, along with oligarchy or plutocracy later on.

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Posted 01 April 2026 - 12:25 PM

View PostTsundoku, on 01 April 2026 - 12:16 PM, said:

As an aside, one of my pet hates is when people conflate - either deliberately, knowing it's bullshit (those at the top), or out of sheer wilful ignorance (their supporters) - communism or socialism with totalitarianism or authoritarianism.

Two are economic systems and two are governmental systems. You might argue that communism is also a governmental system, except it's more accurately described as governmental control of the means of production. The government (ostensibly) being "the people". Funny thing being, every government in history that was described as being "communist" (self described as socialist) was such in name only, and in reality was simply another feudal style hierarchy, after replacing the previous one with an even worse one. Kleptocracy is another far better description, along with oligarchy or plutocracy later on.


Agreed, and I'll add that there are also different types of communism in the world, North Korean communism might look more like the Cold War soviets (though as you said it looks more like a feudal hierarchy with the Kim's as the ruling dynasty), but Chinese communism is filtered almost entirely through capitalism and looks more like "extreme socialism" just with a government that operates like Chinese monarchies level of control too...these things are wildly different but they all get mentioned in the west as the same thing in breath with like libraries, and education and roads...

But yeah, even my sister does the "conflate socialism with communism thing" and it drives me batty.
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Posted 01 April 2026 - 12:36 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 01 April 2026 - 11:36 AM, said:

I can even branch out, rabid terf JK Rowling posted JUST the other day about the Olympics disallowing Trans athletes....an put an exclamation point on her agreement by posting a photo of Imane Khelif winning her boxing match a few years back....a woman from Algeria...whose birth certificate literally says she's a woman...pushing the narrative that she's really a trans man...a story that falls apart on the head of it because such a thing would suggest that in Algeria, a Muslim Arab country where rights are very conservative, and very strict, homosexuality is illegal, gender change of any kind out of the question and also illegal...suggesting then that all the people present at the birth of Imane and everyone else throughout her life have hidden her "true" gender so that 26 years later she could win a boxing match?...it's so nonsensical the MOMENT you scratch any lower than the surface, disregarding that she said she was a woman and should be believed without further proof....but this is the level of dishonesty and propaganda that such people operate in....entirely fictional spaces where JKR thinks that if she suggests often enough that Imane Khelif is really a man, people will believe it...and of course the idiot that is Pierre Pollievre in my country re-tweeted her post....

Does JKR know she's wrong? She does. She still posts it because she know her rabid anti-trans followers will lap it up becuase of how much she bangs on about it.


While X isn't letting me see her posts in chronological order, I found a news article about it and Pollievre's retweet---it's not about trans people, though she does call Khelif a "man". It seems to be about her having failed the chromosome test.

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Khelif confirmed she has the SRY gene, located on the Y chromosome that indicates masculinity. "Yes, and it's natural," she said, adding that she is "surrounded by doctors, a professor is monitoring me... For the Paris Games qualifying tournament, which took place in Dakar, I lowered my testosterone levels to zero".

https://www.lemonde...._6750171_9.html


Of course, that doesn't make her a "man", but it may give her a biological advantage.

Granted, this is getting off-topic, and I think I vaguely remember her saying more obviously transphobic things, but I don't think she's at the same level of duplicity as Trump or the same level of ignorance as most of MAGA. ... which isn't saying much.

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Posted 01 April 2026 - 12:40 PM

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 01 April 2026 - 12:36 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 01 April 2026 - 11:36 AM, said:

I can even branch out, rabid terf JK Rowling posted JUST the other day about the Olympics disallowing Trans athletes....an put an exclamation point on her agreement by posting a photo of Imane Khelif winning her boxing match a few years back....a woman from Algeria...whose birth certificate literally says she's a woman...pushing the narrative that she's really a trans man...a story that falls apart on the head of it because such a thing would suggest that in Algeria, a Muslim Arab country where rights are very conservative, and very strict, homosexuality is illegal, gender change of any kind out of the question and also illegal...suggesting then that all the people present at the birth of Imane and everyone else throughout her life have hidden her "true" gender so that 26 years later she could win a boxing match?...it's so nonsensical the MOMENT you scratch any lower than the surface, disregarding that she said she was a woman and should be believed without further proof....but this is the level of dishonesty and propaganda that such people operate in....entirely fictional spaces where JKR thinks that if she suggests often enough that Imane Khelif is really a man, people will believe it...and of course the idiot that is Pierre Pollievre in my country re-tweeted her post....

Does JKR know she's wrong? She does. She still posts it because she know her rabid anti-trans followers will lap it up becuase of how much she bangs on about it.


While X isn't letting me see her posts in chronological order, I found a news article about it and Pollievre's retweet---it's not about trans people, though she does call Khelif a "man". It seems to be about her having failed the chromosome test.

According to Le Monde,


after the Olympics announcement, she retweeted her own tweet, which is what PP then retweeted.

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 01 April 2026 - 12:36 PM, said:

Of course, that doesn't make her a "man", but it may give her a biological advantage.

Granted, this is getting off-topic, and I think I vaguely remember her saying more obviously transphobic things, but I don't think she's at the same level of duplicity as Trump or the same level of ignorance as most of MAGA. ... which isn't saying much.


I'm going to let you research how bad both these things actually sound, and decides whether or not to delete it...

Jeezus

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Posted 01 April 2026 - 03:18 PM

J.K. Rowling is mostly a single issue person with maniacal and uncaring devotion to doing some poorly thought out version of trans ethnic cleansing while saying things like in another life she would have been trans.

She's actively funding efforts to do that, using her position to advocate for that, and in general being a moldy rutabaga about it all.

Chromosome tests are bizarre for sport and not needed. For the most part, sports have a bifurcation that happens along common gender lines because sports are meant to be for everyone and this was a perceived easy way to do that. The professional sports level are a small sliver of those who participate and it's basically all Rowling etc focus on because they're moldy rutabagas that enjoy having an outgroup to clobber from within their in-group.
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Posted 01 April 2026 - 03:49 PM

View Postamphibian, on 01 April 2026 - 03:18 PM, said:

J.K. Rowling is mostly a single issue person with maniacal and uncaring devotion to doing some poorly thought out version of trans ethnic cleansing while saying things like in another life she would have been trans.


Slightly off topic, but I am still 100% CONVINCED that Rowling's hubby is into dolls or had an affair with one or something along those lines....because her vehemence to destroy her own legacy for this one topic that should could have left alone...to the point of using her millions to deliberately attack the trans community... feels intensely personal in nature...and as such I would not be surprised if at some point it comes out why. But then again, it could just be hate for hates sake...
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Posted 01 April 2026 - 07:04 PM

My read is that JKR is probably a bit gender fluid and very obsessed with protecting the sanctity of her vision of women's bodies - even to the point of not listening to hundreds of thousands of women (and men) who've been telling her to stop.

It's a weird complex and it's connected with extreme right wing constructs that create a scapegoat. She comes at it from a different angle than some, but it's still horrendous and super dumb.

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Posted 02 April 2026 - 08:22 AM

She's in a hole of her own making. Folk on the left are essentially done with her and won't engage, so her grift is the only path left to her.

I am not really surprised though, she's always been rotten.
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