The USA Politics Thread
#15121
Posted Today, 10:48 AM
This guy looks interesting. John Ossoff, Dem from Georgia.
https://www.youtube....rts/6_YPtnou5ak
https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Jon_Ossoff
https://www.youtube....rts/6_YPtnou5ak
https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Jon_Ossoff
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"Well well well ... if it ain't The Invisible C**t." - Billy Butcher, The Boys
"I have strong views about not tempting providence and, as a wise man once said, the difference between luck and a wheelbarrow is, luck doesn’t work if you push it." - Colonel Orhan, Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City - KJ Parker
#15122
Posted Today, 12:03 PM
Gwynn ap Nudd, on 10 April 2025 - 03:27 AM, said:
It's market manipulation at this point. Everyone in the inner circle is raking in record trading profits.
Yep, he literally went on twitter or truth social or whatever yesterday morning and said "Now is a great time to buy!"....and then removed the tariffs in the afternoon.
It does not GET more corrupt than this. And it's so blatant. Like the US needs to sack up and actually physically arrest these people. That little slimy fucking scumbag trade representative from yesterday's hearing should be #1....
I feel like I'm a broken record at this point...until someone enforces your laws, you are not a country of laws....you're not even really a country.
This post has been edited by QuickTidal: Today, 12:04 PM
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
#15123
Posted Today, 12:15 PM
We are a country with a semblance of a code of laws. It resembles a code of laws if you aren't white or don't have upper middle class money. It resembles general guidelines that may be discarded if you are white, and can be ignored if you are wealthy enough or wealthy and white.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#15124
Posted Today, 06:21 PM
But your (as a nations) failure to hold these absolute cunts (not apologising for the language) in any way accountable is fucking the rest of the world as well.
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#15125
Posted Today, 06:34 PM
Macros, on 10 April 2025 - 06:21 PM, said:
But your (as a nations) failure to hold these absolute cunts (not apologising for the language) in any way accountable is fucking the rest of the world as well.
Luckily you don't have to deal with the fear of having a naturalized citizen wife from China. I do.
So, I care about the impact on the rest of the world. If only a little bit behind the impact of that semblance of a system of laws on my own life.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#15126
Posted Today, 06:35 PM
Macros, on 10 April 2025 - 06:21 PM, said:
But your (as a nations) failure to hold these absolute cunts (not apologising for the language) in any way accountable is fucking the rest of the world as well.
Right?
The French had the decency to actually revolt when their so-called leader pull heinous crimes and shit.
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
#15127
Posted Today, 06:37 PM
HoosierDaddy, on 10 April 2025 - 06:34 PM, said:
Macros, on 10 April 2025 - 06:21 PM, said:
But your (as a nations) failure to hold these absolute cunts (not apologising for the language) in any way accountable is fucking the rest of the world as well.
Luckily you don't have to deal with the fear of having a naturalized citizen wife from China. I do.
So, I care about the impact on the rest of the world. If only a little bit behind the impact of that semblance of a system of laws on my own life.
I don't think anyone is attacking you personally...just that no one seems willing to do anything...not your leaders, not your country people...no one...and instead of just watching it as we usually do, we all get to experience it with you as he fucks the world in every way he can because he has a small peepee and everyone around him hates him and he knows it.
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
#15128
Posted Today, 06:38 PM
There has been a 40 year campaign by the right wing to get to where we are now. It has been matched by something like 35 years of centrist/left wing inability to combat all of it all of the time. There have been some successes, yet the nature of party politics based on seniority and consultants (with right wing interests) mean that the centrists get pulled far right and the left wing gets clobbered by everyone looking for an easy talking point.
Makes for a very frustrating viewpoint for me. I'm doing what I can, yet I don't have the capacity to affect change by myself. Everything requires coalition building, policy and procedural changes, backstage conversations, getting out of the way when a bigger kahuna comes through etc.
Makes for a very frustrating viewpoint for me. I'm doing what I can, yet I don't have the capacity to affect change by myself. Everything requires coalition building, policy and procedural changes, backstage conversations, getting out of the way when a bigger kahuna comes through etc.
I survived the Permian and all I got was this t-shirt.
#15129
Posted Today, 06:43 PM
QuickTidal, on 10 April 2025 - 06:35 PM, said:
Macros, on 10 April 2025 - 06:21 PM, said:
But your (as a nations) failure to hold these absolute cunts (not apologising for the language) in any way accountable is fucking the rest of the world as well.
Right?
The French had the decency to actually revolt when their so-called leader pull heinous crimes and shit.
We have people who counter-protest and roll up with their AR-15 when they get to feeling threatened (this isn't hypberole, this is 45 minutes away from me: https://www.jconline...st/82949910007/).
The cauldron is starting to boil over, only if this pot goes over, it's not a quick spill. It's a fucking explosion that you can't undo and that will end up with people fighting people. Because of that, I think people are being REALLY patient with their demonstrations and objections.
I'm not eager for the blood to start flowing in the streets or elsewhere.
This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: Today, 06:45 PM
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#15130
Posted Today, 06:56 PM
There were hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of people demonstrating in the streets last weekend.
There is zero culture of organized protest like the South Korean or Hong Kong citizens showed. There is a glaring and widespread lack of knowledge of how the different pieces of advocacy fit into each other.
Most people do not have the answers to or even consider the following: When is it best to protest? When is it best to collectively write a letter? How does one lobby a local, state, or federal elected official? What language choices to make? How to be inclusive? How to protect each other from police or counter protestors? What are the unions' positions on this? What are the community organizations' positions on that? Where are the legal resources/people? How do we tie all of these together to effect lasting change?
The people who built the Civil Rights movements of the 40s-60s changed America into being a functioning democracy. They also had their organizations and coalition building skills stomped out or left to rot.
I'm one person, yet I can point to several policies where I'm integral to several billion dollars worth of positive changes in my state because I understand some of the answers to the above and I worked really hard for several years with many other people plus got lucky as hell.
It's incredibly hard to convince people who've never done anything like this that they need to do something. It is still hard to convince people who showed up to a march or protest that there's unglamorous work that should have been done years or months prior to the March and then get them to actually do it. Lot of hand holding. Lot of explaining legislative processes. Lot of recursive loops of communication to ensure that people remember policy positions and specific requests for action.
All of this is part of why lobbying is a multi billion industry and the lobbyists consistently outhustle the newbies.
There is zero culture of organized protest like the South Korean or Hong Kong citizens showed. There is a glaring and widespread lack of knowledge of how the different pieces of advocacy fit into each other.
Most people do not have the answers to or even consider the following: When is it best to protest? When is it best to collectively write a letter? How does one lobby a local, state, or federal elected official? What language choices to make? How to be inclusive? How to protect each other from police or counter protestors? What are the unions' positions on this? What are the community organizations' positions on that? Where are the legal resources/people? How do we tie all of these together to effect lasting change?
The people who built the Civil Rights movements of the 40s-60s changed America into being a functioning democracy. They also had their organizations and coalition building skills stomped out or left to rot.
I'm one person, yet I can point to several policies where I'm integral to several billion dollars worth of positive changes in my state because I understand some of the answers to the above and I worked really hard for several years with many other people plus got lucky as hell.
It's incredibly hard to convince people who've never done anything like this that they need to do something. It is still hard to convince people who showed up to a march or protest that there's unglamorous work that should have been done years or months prior to the March and then get them to actually do it. Lot of hand holding. Lot of explaining legislative processes. Lot of recursive loops of communication to ensure that people remember policy positions and specific requests for action.
All of this is part of why lobbying is a multi billion industry and the lobbyists consistently outhustle the newbies.
This post has been edited by amphibian: Today, 07:02 PM
I survived the Permian and all I got was this t-shirt.