[Terez]

A reporter tweeted that he was hit on the head with a fire extinguisher.

[HoosierDaddy]

The breadth of charges that could be brought against Trump and his cronies are pretty massive.

[Terez]

 HoosierDaddy, on 08 January 2021 - 02:50 AM, said:

The breadth of charges that could be brought against Trump and his cronies are pretty massive.

Especially with the more info that comes out. It looks like Trump administration officials deliberately hampered the defense of the Capitol.

https://www.washingt...9da2_story.html

[Tiste Simeon]

 Terez, on 08 January 2021 - 03:05 AM, said:

 HoosierDaddy, on 08 January 2021 - 02:50 AM, said:

The breadth of charges that could be brought against Trump and his cronies are pretty massive.

Especially with the more info that comes out. It looks like Trump administration officials deliberately hampered the defense of the Capitol.

https://www.washingt...9da2_story.html

Is that why his administration are all resigning? Giving themselves time to flee?

[Mentalist]

 Azath Vitr (D, on 07 January 2021 - 09:18 PM, said:

 HoosierDaddy, on 07 January 2021 - 08:54 PM, said:

I think you need to dial down the paranoia a little bit too, honestly, Azath.

That seems more than unlikely, but maybe I'm wrong. Don't think I am though. Think this is a small dose of some needed reality for a lot of Republicans/conservatives who have been hand-waving and nihilistically going along with stuff.

Edit: Yeah, if that stuff happened then he'd be up for a treason trial posthaste.

'Republicans I spoke to on Wednesday echoed the view that Trump wants to blow things up on his way out the door. "He'll want to burn the whole thing down," a Republican strategist said. "Trump doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself."'

https://www.vanityfa...35wfkoqG9szb4CU

I don't think Trump has any genuine moral compunctions about murder or mass murder. But his fear of physical danger will (hopefully) stop him. I'm almost certain he's considered it. The president can issue pardons for treason; if Don Jr. (or other extreme loyalist) goes from Acting Secretary of State to President he could pardon Trump, then resign so Trump can pardon him. And Congress can't impeach if [Edit: the number of votes required for the 2/3rds Senate majority cannot be reached because of murder or unlawful detainment (not sure if how quorum rules would work if enough non-loyalists were murdered to give Trump loyalists a majority---they probably wouldn't).] I doubt the rest of the world would dare any sort of direct military action to remove him, aside from assassination perhaps. The US military or intelligence/law enforcement agencies would have to actively intervene to stop him, instead of just passively refusing illegal orders.

But there's also the question of what to do if he doesn't seem poised for those extremes, but he does warrant invocation of the 25th amendment... and there aren't enough votes to permanently remove him. I think the knowledge that Pence and Pelosi could have him executed and render each other immune to prosecution with pardons would be enough to deter him.

Look, I get he's too deep into the con to quit.
But I don't think Trump is gonna play chicken with the entire military.

If he goes rogue and has his supporters murder the government, his opponents, and the acting parliament, he himself will be gunned down, and US will end up with martial law until new elections could take place.

Edit: I feel that the most appropriate end to this farce would be him seeking political asylum in Venezuela and leading a "government in exile" from there.

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 08 January 2021 - 05:26 AM

[Macros]

I think he's too fucked in the head to consider still that he's done.

He won't run, his people voted for him, he won!

[Gwynn ap Nudd]

Nah, the most appropriate end to the Trump administration would be "The Donald " waiting in line at a soup kitchen a few months from now. Likewise, for every person that has been evicted due to the inability of Republicans to pass adequate Covid relief, an elected Republican should be forced to live on the street. Start with the Tea Party types ("Freedom Caucus" my ass).

This post has been edited by Gwynn ap Nudd: 08 January 2021 - 06:51 AM

[Macros]

I don't knownif I'm a the realist or the wilful pessimist here.
These wankers will all walk away with little or no consequences, and waddle on in life unimpeded

[Tsundoku]

Realist. Just like the big banks with the GFC there will be ZERO consequences.
Hell, some of them may even somehow come out ahead (also like the bank execs after the GFC).

Why? Because money. It is the glue that holds the bastards together.

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 08 January 2021 - 08:32 AM

[Maark Abbott]

RE the protestor who was shot - there's a video, and it's not pretty and I don't recommend finding it.

What it reminded me of was something out of a Romero film. Folk throwing their lives away for a cult of personality. I don't understand it.

[Terez]

 Tiste Simeon, on 08 January 2021 - 04:15 AM, said:

 Terez, on 08 January 2021 - 03:05 AM, said:

 HoosierDaddy, on 08 January 2021 - 02:50 AM, said:

The breadth of charges that could be brought against Trump and his cronies are pretty massive.

Especially with the more info that comes out. It looks like Trump administration officials deliberately hampered the defense of the Capitol.

https://www.washingt...9da2_story.html

Is that why his administration are all resigning? Giving themselves time to flee?

One of the smarter lawyers I follow on Twitter thinks it might be an indication that they know even more about this than we do. Considering the reports on Wednesday that suggested the White House (or Giuliani, or Stone, or whoever) was actually in touch with the rioters inside the Capitol.

[Primateus]

Sounds an awful lot like a scary and eerily good point...

[QuickTidal]

 Primateus, on 08 January 2021 - 12:20 PM, said:

Sounds an awful lot like a scary and eerily good point...

It's a good point. BUT...I will say that the FBI is already investigating the most present and identifiable people in the mob. I saw a whole slew of them had been contacted by the FBI because a lot of them (like the viking horns guy, the guy from Pelosi's office ec.t) are readily identifiable and well known MAGA chuds. So the notion that they aren't going to answer for crimes is a little soon to say. Yes, they didn't get largely arrested on site (which is absolutely a dereliction of duty!), but they might make BIG examples of the instigators.

Also, to what Terez said, I heard that the Capitol police were SCALED back before the day...on purpose. Like they had the LEAST amount of police they could have had....so they could try to look blameless and "overwhelmed" when they "let" the MAGAs in.

[Primateus]

Man wore work badge when participating in insurrection!

What a goddamned idiot! But, I suppose that is implied by him simply being there.

I am not always in favour of people losing their jobs over something they did, but I absolutely agree that if one of your employees participate in an insurrection, a company should have the absolute right to fire them!

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

'MAGA folks [...] desecrating artwork, ransacking offices and smearing feces on the walls before being escorted out of the Capitol as if they were just rowdy children needing fresh air.'

https://www.politico...-to-quit-491335

'defecated inside the historic building and "tracked" their feces in several hallways [...] leaving behind brownish "foot-prints,"'

https://www.nydailyn...I2kXrs5DZke3I_c

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 08 January 2021 - 04:25 PM

[Macros]

Kind of fitting they left shit stains

[Malankazooie]

Breaking news! Trump tweeted that he will not be attending the inauguration of Biden! I'm shocked and my jaw hit the floor when I saw that.

/s <<< is that the doodad that signifies sarcasm? Did I do it right?

[Aptorian]

Never use /s - It's training wheels for people who don't understand sarcasm and irony and therefore do not deserve to survive the winter.

[Malankazooie]

Sidney Powell Sued by Dominion for $1.3 Billion Over Vote-Fraud Claims

*link is to bloomberg.com

[Macros]

That seems like a good avenue to hurt these assholes. In the wallet.

Dominion will never get 1.3b settlement, but any settlement and hand all legal fees to them, bury the bastards like Rush and Sean in litigation and bills