[Terez]

They're pretty confident that they have the vast majority of the guns so they're not worried about that.

[Gwynn ap Nudd]

 Mentalist, on 27 October 2020 - 01:05 AM, said:

 QuickTidal, on 27 October 2020 - 12:50 AM, said:

 Mentalist, on 26 October 2020 - 08:43 PM, said:

Umm, QT, we live in a country with socialized medicine/healthcare. And banks + insurance cos still run everything, lmao.

Which is why my example wasn’t us.

We have a long way to go on a lot of social issues, and an even longer way to go with regards to unchecked capitalism...but we are not on the bottom of the list either like the states are.

Oh, and the real money maker scam in our country is goddamn Student Loans. That shit is rife. ~source, once worked for the NSLSC...the amount of money they make off interest alone is...insanity. We need free/socialized post secondary education like yesterday.

*shrug* I'm one of the lucky ones, I guess. I paid off all of my debt in less than the 10 years they give you post-graduation.

It's not an amazing system, but from what I've seen (among my peers), it works.

I think a lot depends on when you graduated. Fees have gone up significantly since I went through university (cost of living in Vancouver was a bigger reason for loans than tuition/books). I had loans from third and fourth year and paying them off was never a big deal.

[HoosierDaddy]

Not looking forward to Nov. 4th - ???

Everyone is anticipating post-election shenanigans and that can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. "They knew this would happen...." is being built into a premeditated excuse. On both sides.

Bad vibes.

[Malankazooie]

Nov. 4th?

I'm going to take it one day at a time until Jan. 20, 2021. And keep my ear to the ground to make sure I stay ahead of things.

[Mentalist]

 Gwynn ap Nudd, on 27 October 2020 - 02:25 AM, said:

 Mentalist, on 27 October 2020 - 01:05 AM, said:

 QuickTidal, on 27 October 2020 - 12:50 AM, said:

 Mentalist, on 26 October 2020 - 08:43 PM, said:

Umm, QT, we live in a country with socialized medicine/healthcare. And banks + insurance cos still run everything, lmao.

Which is why my example wasn’t us.

We have a long way to go on a lot of social issues, and an even longer way to go with regards to unchecked capitalism...but we are not on the bottom of the list either like the states are.

Oh, and the real money maker scam in our country is goddamn Student Loans. That shit is rife. ~source, once worked for the NSLSC...the amount of money they make off interest alone is...insanity. We need free/socialized post secondary education like yesterday.

*shrug* I'm one of the lucky ones, I guess. I paid off all of my debt in less than the 10 years they give you post-graduation.

It's not an amazing system, but from what I've seen (among my peers), it works.

I think a lot depends on when you graduated. Fees have gone up significantly since I went through university (cost of living in Vancouver was a bigger reason for loans than tuition/books). I had loans from third and fourth year and paying them off was never a big deal.

Undergrad in '09. Got a quarter of my initial 4 year loan forgiven (through non-refundable grants), and my parents paid off half.

in 2010 I started Law school, and accumulated a bigger chunk. I had a part-time job through Law School, though so all of the loans went into tuition/rez (it helped that I went to Winterpeg, and the second cheapest law school in the country).

I graduated in 2013, had a part-time assistant job for about a year and then started articling, which was a contract job; got my license in 2015, finished paying off my loans in December of last year.

I can imagine with the dollar tanking tuition prices are probably significantly higher these days though.

Edit: we should prolly stop derailing the US thread. Mod can move this to the CAD thread if anything.

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 27 October 2020 - 05:57 AM

[QuickTidal]

Mitch McConnell just adjourned the Senate until November 9, ending the prospect of additional coronavirus relief until after the election.

So not only did they RAM (an entirely unqualified) SCOTUS judge through in record time DURING (some 60 million ppl have already voted) a fucking election (somehow Obama's SCOTUS pick was "too close to the election at 9 months out" for Mitch's dirty fucking playbook, but fucking DURING an active election is okay?)...but now they are following through on the threat that unless Trump wins re-election the COVID relief is not coming...and even then I don't think it would come.

There is no way to look at this but naked power grab. It's We are going to weigh the SCOTUS down with people who will be beholden to our causes, but we are also not giving you any relief for the pandemic, and unless you vote for our guy you won't get it....and we are now on vacation.

Fucking holy shit.

[Macros]

I am no longer surprised at anything anymore.
We are at peak Republic now with corruption, the next logical step is dictatorship that will comfortably slide into empire.

Let us hope it goes straight to empire of iron and rust

[Macros]

Maybe the Canadians can step up to the mark again, be the modern day vandals

[QuickTidal]

 Macros, on 27 October 2020 - 02:05 PM, said:

Maybe the Canadians can step up to the mark again, be the modern day vandals

Ha! Hey man, we may just build a wall and seal them out like Hadrian did.

[Malankazooie]

The relief wasn't going to happen prior to the election regardless. How soon we forget with our 24/7 news addled minds that Trump's name appeared on the first relief checks. So, if a relief package would have been approved and sent out this close to election day Trump would have had a field day in promoting that to get votes. Nancy Pelosi wasn't going to allow that to happen. The 'talks' and work they were doing was all to give the impression they were making an effort. They really weren't.

[amphibian]

I'm as usual very, very dissatisfied with the Democratic process of kinda rolling over on the Barrett confirmation. Feinstein in particular was an embarrassment.

Make them have to have to recall campaigning senators to have every one of the votes, make them have to claw through every procedural nit pick, make them have to deal with pain to get this through.

The GOP happily does this to the Democrats all the time. This isn't an arrangement between friends, it's "fuck you I'll take mine" being met with "well we tried for a week, we're done now".

[QuickTidal]

 amphibian, on 27 October 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

I'm as usual very, very dissatisfied with the Democratic process of kinda rolling over on the Barrett confirmation. Feinstein in particular was an embarrassment.

Make them have to have to recall campaigning senators to have every one of the votes, make them have to claw through every procedural nit pick, make them have to deal with pain to get this through.

The GOP happily does this to the Democrats all the time. This isn't an arrangement between friends, it's "fuck you I'll take mine" being met with "well we tried for a week, we're done now".

This is why I'm scared that even if Biden gets in and the Senate turns that anyone who did crimes will actually get their comeuppance, or that the laws that need to change to avoid a BUNCH of stuff going fwd that happened in the last 4 years or so will happen...because the Democrats are always like "Let rise above all this, bygones ect."....no...the GOP has been playing a completely different and far more filthy game for 30 years and have essentially turned the whole thing to their advantage on every facet...it's time for the democrats to step up and really take control and actually do the things like Expanding the SCOTUS. Like don't just talk about it, DO IT. Make PR a state finally, give DC representation in the senate ect. All this shit needs to happen on the next democratic watch. But I'm worried none of it will.

I'd love for Biden to dissolve the lower district courts and repopulate them (which I understand he can do? Your law system is weird AF...) under a new system so that we can all watch Moscow Mitch's long-game plans turn to utter ash in front of his eyes. I would pay to see that.

[Cause]

Can they do that? Wouldn’t statehood require a super majority?

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

'[...] Justice Amy Coney Barrett, wants you to know that she is very independent. She is so independent that she referenced the word three separate times in her speech following her swearing-in ceremony. The event, which was essentially emceed by President Donald Trump, was staged at the White House Monday evening, shortly after the Senate voted on her. [...] It was only afterward that it became clear what the purpose of the event was: It seems to have been primarily designed to provide footage for a campaign ad featuring Barrett and Trump. After promising her independence, America's new Supreme Court justice let herself star in a commercial for the president just eight days out from the Nov. 3 election.

There was so much that was grotesque and even ghoulish about the process of confirming Trump's nominee—hand-picked, as the president crowed—to tilt the election in his favor. For weeks we have observed and remarked on the horror of the dead hand of a dying Republican Party forcing through a nominee to entrench its fading power even as the party struggles in the polls. The confirmation celebration put that same desperation on full display. There was the insistence on a White House ceremony, in the dark of night, that was attended only by Republican Party operatives. There were no other Supreme Court justices in attendance, with the exception of Justice Clarence Thomas, who performed the ceremony, the equivalent of a shotgun wedding. [...] All of this ended with the president leading Justice Barrett up the steps to the White House, where he stood woodenly smiling with her for the photo-op on the balcony that would be speedily rendered into the triumphal finale of the taxpayer-funded campaign commercial.'

https://slate.com/ne...tion-trump.html

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 27 October 2020 - 09:58 PM

[Gwynn ap Nudd]

 QuickTidal, on 27 October 2020 - 02:25 PM, said:

 Macros, on 27 October 2020 - 02:05 PM, said:

Maybe the Canadians can step up to the mark again, be the modern day vandals

Ha! Hey man, we may just build a wall and seal them out like Hadrian did.

Not sure we're up to burning down the White House (again), but if Trump wins maybe you should avoid the maple syrup and Canadian bacon for the next few years.

[Tsundoku]

Maybe the Leafs will get riled up enough to actually win a game ...

[QuickTidal]

 Azath Vitr (D, on 27 October 2020 - 09:58 PM, said:

You could not GET more Nazi/Reich imagery than this image.

This is fucking scary guys. It might sound like hyperbole, but this guy and those around him want an empire.

[Macros]

The trump dynasty will rule for 1000 years

[Primateus]

 QuickTidal, on 28 October 2020 - 11:38 AM, said:

 Azath Vitr (D, on 27 October 2020 - 09:58 PM, said:

You could not GET more Nazi/Reich imagery than this image.

This is fucking scary guys. It might sound like hyperbole, but this guy and those around him want an empire.

Well, you could, but then they would have to put swastikas on the flags as well. You don't really expect that kind of honesty from the Trump administration, do you?

[Morgoth]

 Malankazooie, on 27 October 2020 - 01:01 AM, said:

I don't argue with stupid. The post speaks for itself. A male VP candidate wouldn't be referred to as "on the verge of tears." Full Stop.

But to put this to rest, here's the video. Kamala Harris laughs. In a MAGA hat Trumper, 4 more years supporter I guess we live on bizarro world and laughing is now flipped to be on the verge of tears? *shrugs #NotASheep.

On the brink of tears? She seems amused and annoyed more than anything to me. That's a stupid fucking question. Socialists, as if any American politician even touches upon socialism. That interviewer, like so many other Americans, clearly have no idea what socialism is while simultaneously being terrified of socialism.