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#10741 User is offline   Tsundoku 

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Posted 11 July 2020 - 08:35 AM

Sure, no conflict of interest there. :p
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Posted 11 July 2020 - 02:44 PM

It's utterly disgusting but completely unsurprising with this, the most corrupt president ever.
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Posted 11 July 2020 - 04:44 PM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 11 July 2020 - 02:44 PM, said:

It's utterly disgusting but completely unsurprising with this, the most corrupt president ever.

Shockingly enough, he's not in the top three most corrupt presidents (yet). Andrew Jackson, Andrew Johnson, Nixon, maybe Harding are all ahead of him still.

But he's firmly in the worst 10 for corruption and sinking further almost by the day.
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Posted 11 July 2020 - 04:59 PM

Always going the coward's route and making these kind of announcements at EOB on a Friday.

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Posted 12 July 2020 - 12:16 AM

Trump looks weak wearing that mask. Looks weak and is not projecting an image of power and leadership. It's settled and my mind is made up, I'm not voting for him in November because he looks so weak wearing cloth over his nose and mouth.
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Posted 12 July 2020 - 01:16 AM

View PostMalankazooie, on 12 July 2020 - 12:16 AM, said:

Trump looks weak wearing that mask. Looks weak and is not projecting an image of power and leadership. It's settled and my mind is made up, I'm not voting for him in November because he looks so weak wearing cloth over his nose and mouth.



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Looks like there's nothing but blubber and/or sagging neck skin where his chin should be....

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Posted 12 July 2020 - 05:17 AM

View PostQuickTidal, on 09 July 2020 - 04:22 PM, said:

And SCOTUS just ruled against Trump in the Tax Returns thing for NYC State...so they get his taxes!

Also, surprisingly both Gorsuch and Kavanaugh voted against Trump, which surprises me as Kavanaugh is 100% his plant on the court...so maybe Kavanugh just feels untouchable by trump now?

Anyways, he can't re-appeal this right? This is it. NY State will get his taxes, right?

EDIT: I just read that it gets kicked back down to the lower courts...what the fuck is wrong with your legal system that the highest court in the land isn't the last word on this shit? Fucking hell.


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An appeal was made on a matter of law that the Supreme Court decided needed a new "test" for establishing whether or not some form of evidence can be included in the case. Thus, with a new "rule" being put into effect, the lower court must now APPLY that new rules to the substance of the evidence or whatever before it.

When the RULES of the game are being fought over, you take it to the final arbiter of the rules. Which has now been done. Now the new rules can be implemented at the based level and appealed based upon decisions made from there.
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Posted 15 July 2020 - 03:02 PM

...and Kanye drops out. LOL

For those paying attention and know his medical condition, you could literally not have a better example of the swings between the manic state (I'm running for president of the USA!") and depressive state ("I'm no longer running for president") on the grand stage.
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Posted 15 July 2020 - 09:04 PM

Trump's interview that aired on national news yesterday. It's everywhere so should be easy to find.

So, his replies about the Confederate flag and BLM and where he stands regarding these. *RubsChin. Hmmm, I wonder what one could surmise from his responses. I'll have to give it strong consideration before I can form an opinion.

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 09:19 PM

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Posted 16 July 2020 - 12:10 AM


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Posted 16 July 2020 - 01:04 AM

'"Disturbing" memo reveals Trump's USPS chief has slowed delivery amid calls to expand voting by mail

“The people in power are trying to keep voter turnout low"'

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Posted 17 July 2020 - 01:51 PM

Republicans are leading the anti-mask charge for the regular citizens in certain states....but they are also too afraid to gather for their own convention because of the virus.

Like you can't make a better example of "We only really give a fuck about us, you all can burn and we actively would rather you did"

I sure hope you all take your country back in November from the South Park episode you're all currently living in.
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Posted 17 July 2020 - 05:12 PM

God damn it, that woman has to be one of the most pivotal people of the next 10-20 years.
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Posted 17 July 2020 - 05:21 PM

View PostAptorian, on 17 July 2020 - 05:12 PM, said:

God damn it, that woman has to be one of the most pivotal people of the next 10-20 years.

Should have retired during the Obama years.
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Posted 17 July 2020 - 08:44 PM

'Portland has been invaded by federal agents—including unidentified, camouflage-clad officers who have emerged from unmarked minivans to arrest protesters. These officers have reportedly refused to say what agency they work for. But their supposed authority to police Oregon’s largest city and make arrests appears to rest on a June 26 executive order by President Donald Trump calling for the protection of statues, monuments, and federal property.

Black Lives Matter protests in Portland have continued this month, drawing attention from Trump, who falsely described the city as “totally out of control.” Trump also threatened this week to “take over” cities he claims are suffering from crime sprees. Agents from US Marshals Service, Federal Protective Service, Homeland Security Investigations, and US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) have been in Portland since early this month. But on July 14, protesters began to document instances in which armed agents wearing masks and military-style fatigues emerged from unmarked vehicles, detained protesters with no explanation, and drove away.

[...] “I am basically tossed into the van,” one protester, Mark Pettibone, told Oregon Public Broadcasting. “And I had my beanie pulled over my face so I couldn’t see and they held my hands over my head.”

Pettibone, who said he did nothing illegal and didn’t know why he was detained, recounted being taken to a building he later learned was Oregon’s federal courthouse, where he was Mirandized and searched. He said that after he declined to answer questions and asked for a lawyer, the interview ended and he was released after 90 minutes with no explanation or paperwork.'

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Posted 18 July 2020 - 04:27 AM

View Post20 Days of Sheep, on 18 July 2020 - 03:51 AM, said:

Congressman John Lewis died tonight from the exact same cancer Ginsberg battling.

He was a Titan of fighting everyone who ever treated anyone badly. Pictures of him have been hanging on my office walls since 2017.

He wasn't perfect (the race against Julien Bond to get his Congressional seat being a great example), but he fought so hard and through so much to help millions of people for 60+ years.

He showed up over and over. He brought the trouble as hard as he could.
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Posted 18 July 2020 - 06:41 AM

Maybe now they will finally rename the Edmund Pettus bridge.

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 03:50 AM

'Trump Plans to Expand Federal Invasion of American Cities

[...] Trump plans to assert new authority this week to dispatch federal law enforcement agents to American cities to quell "unrest," White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said Sunday on Fox News.

"Attorney General Barr is weighing in on that with [acting Homeland Security] Secretary Wolf, and you'll see something rolled out this week, as we start to go in and make sure that the communities—whether it's Chicago or Portland or Milwaukee or someplace across the heartland of the country—we need to make sure their communities are [start scare quotes] safe [end scare quotes---or not?]," Meadows said.

[...] Meadows suggested the Trump administration wants to broaden its legal justification to allow federal agencies to expand their presence in other locations. Notably he cited Chicago, where the issue drawing national attention is gun violence, not political unrest. Trump has previously threatened to "send in the Feds" if Chicago "doesn't fix the horrible 'carnage' going on." '

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Posted 21 July 2020 - 04:46 PM

'Trump Is Deploying Unidentified ICE Agents to Arrest Protesters in Democratic-Run Cities

[...] The generalized increase of blunt force in response to nothing in particular is part of a wider ratcheting up of the government's response to sporadic protests lingering after weeks of powerful nationwide demonstrations. In addition, "[t]he Department of Homeland Security has authorized its personnel to collect information on protesters who threaten to damage or destroy public memorials and statues, regardless of whether they are on federal property, a significant expansion of authorities that have historically been used to protect landmarks from terrorist attacks," the Washington Post reports. "The new guidance was issued as department personnel have been dispatched to police and detain people protesting police violence, itself an untraditional role for a department set up to secure borders and transportation systems."'

https://slate.com/ne...nd-chicago.html

'Chad Wolf Has Turned Trump's Brutality Machine From the Border to Portland

[...] Wolf is perhaps the perfect person to lead this particular dystopian innovation of the Trump presidency, having previously authored an infamous memo advocating for a short-lived but horrific policy of "separating family units" to deter undocumented immigration. Wolf has graduated from advocating kidnapping children from their parents at the border to kidnapping grown adults in American streets.

[...] Multiple parts of the Bill of Rights bar unidentified federal agents from conducting secret abductions and tear-gassing peaceful protesting moms. While Wolf has attempted to use a bizarre and narrow legal interpretation to justify these clearly unlawful practices, he and his roving paramilitaries have already been sued by the ACLU as well as Oregon's attorney general.'

https://slate.com/ne...n-portland.html


'Portland Feds "Beaten Back" by 2,000 Protesters, Moms Group

An estimated crowd of 2,000 people participating in the protests in Portland, Oregon, "tore open the doors of a federal courthouse and then beat back the agents inside" in the early hours of Tuesday morning, a journalist on the scene reported on Twitter. Bellingcat writer Robert Evans posted multiple videos online that appeared to show federal agents shooting what are assumed to be non-lethal projectiles at protesters, including a parents group, Wall of Moms, out of "murder holes" in a wooden structure built around the courthouse to protect it. [...] Trump praised federal law enforcement agents on Monday, saying they were doing a "fantastic job" in Portland'

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