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Posted 14 February 2020 - 02:42 PM

No, he would be doing much more heinous things if that was the case. He just knows he can get away with a lot as long as he does it by increments.
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Posted 15 February 2020 - 01:41 AM

Does Bernie really have no chance? Remember the recent UK election choice between an idealogue and a rich twit?

https://www.news.com...db6e6dcc6933866

"Could he win? Sure, why not. Last time we did this, a pathologically dishonest reality TV host who could barely string a coherent sentence together managed to convince 63 million people he was sane enough to have the nuclear codes."
And that was against a more moderate opponent who actually won the popular vote.

Probably better with Warren.

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 06:22 PM

Sometimes the universe speaks to you, sends a message.

Chicken wanders into Elizabeth Warren office in Asheville — and lays an egg
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Posted 15 February 2020 - 09:51 PM

Joe Hildebrand telling it like it is regarding the Democrats chances:

https://www.news.com...2b70b5327882532

"I am far too old and ugly to expect political parties or leaders to be morally pure or even come from the communities they claim to represent but they should at least be smart enough to know the people they have to please to win an election.

And on this measure the Democratic Party machine, its new dotcom-millionaire-slash-Hollywood-celebrity-slash-uni-student-socialist base and its desiccated candidates are even worse than a broken down Rolls Royce on the side of the road. They are a broken down Melbourne Cup runner and the big black curtain couldn’t come soon enough.

If Trump’s supporters are truly a basket of deplorables then these guys are a bucket of dipsh*ts.

And the smart people, like Elvis, have just left the building."


Four more years of Trump et al. Ugh. Let's hope he's learned something from the first four apart from "I can do anything at all and not only will they let me get away with it, they'll applaud me for it!"

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 07:17 PM

Oh my, things gonna get spicy tonight. Lil' Mikey Bloomberg steps onto the debate stage for the first time. Will he step up onto a box at his podium so he can speak into the mic? Will he have the other candiates stopped and frisked as they walk onto the debate stage? (probably not, their melanin does not give them a dark enough skin tone to warrant it). If lil' Mikey Bloomberg really wants to make a statement and come off like a boss, he should step up onto that box and slam a Super Big Gulp of Code Red Mountain Dew down on the podium and then take a long, obnoxious slurp out of a garish and defiantly plastic straw and be all like 'bring it on bitches!, I'm gonna drop 3 billys on this shiznit, so why even try!"
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Posted 19 February 2020 - 07:38 PM

View PostMalankazooie, on 19 February 2020 - 07:17 PM, said:

Oh my, things gonna get spicy tonight. Lil' Mikey Bloomberg steps onto the debate stage for the first time. Will he step up onto a box at his podium so he can speak into the mic? Will he have the other candiates stopped and frisked as they walk onto the debate stage? (probably not, their melanin does not give them a dark enough skin tone to warrant it). If lil' Mikey Bloomberg really wants to make a statement and come off like a boss, he should step up onto that box and slam a Super Big Gulp of Code Red Mountain Dew down on the podium and then take a long, obnoxious slurp out of a garish and defiantly plastic straw and be all like 'bring it on bitches!, I'm gonna drop 3 billys on this shiznit, so why even try!"


Gods, I fucking hate Bloomberg.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 06:21 PM

'For those who didn’t receive the Fox News treatment, it appears that in at least one case, cold hard cash did the talking. Paul Pogue, a construction company owner who pleaded guilty to underpaying his taxes by $473,000 and received three years probation, was issued a full pardon and clemency by the president.

According to FEC filings, Pogue’s family has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars in direct contributions and in-kind air travel to the Trump Victory Committee. Beginning in August 2019, Ben Pogue—CEO of Pogue Construction and son of Paul Pogue—and his wife Ashleigh made over $200,000 in contributions to the campaign.

In August alone, Ben Pogue donated $85,000 to Trump Victory while Ashleigh Pogue contributed $50,000 that month. The following month, Ben Pogue made an in-kind air travel contribution of $75,404.40. The couple also made several large donations to the Republican National Committee and each donated $5,600 to Donald Trump for President Inc.

On the day of their first donation to the Trump campaign, Ashleigh posted an Instagram photo of her and her husband posing with Donald Trump Jr. and his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, at the Hamptons.

Prior to the Pogues’ sudden significant donating spree to Trump and the Republicans, the couple was not seen as big campaign spenders, having donated a few thousand dollars for Paul Ryan’s congressional campaign in 2017 and $5,400 for former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum’s 2016 Republican presidential run.'

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 07:04 PM

News headline:

Intelligence community says Russia is meddling in 2020 election and trying to get Trump re-elected.


I'm flabbergasted by this. This has to be 'fake news' perpetrated by the deep state, yeah? Posted Image
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 10:18 PM

View PostMalankazooie, on 21 February 2020 - 07:04 PM, said:

News headline:

Intelligence community says Russia is meddling in 2020 election and trying to get Trump re-elected.


I'm flabbergasted by this. This has to be 'fake news' perpetrated by the deep state, yeah? Posted Image


In other news, bears shit in the woods.
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Posted 22 February 2020 - 08:16 AM

Today, when I was in the process of waking up, a thought occurred to me. More like a nightmare, but whatever.

It honestly surprises me that Trump hasn't, yet, ordered Nuclear Weapons tests.
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Posted 22 February 2020 - 01:30 PM

View PostPrimateus, on 22 February 2020 - 08:16 AM, said:

Today, when I was in the process of waking up, a thought occurred to me. More like a nightmare, but whatever.

It honestly surprises me that Trump hasn't, yet, ordered Nuclear Weapons tests.


Well, thanks for jinxing us ... :doh:
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Posted 23 February 2020 - 05:27 AM

Sanders is doing well in the primaries. Let's assume for a second he wins the presidency and the blue wave continues to unseat Republicans.

Does Sanders actually have enough support among the Democrats to realize his ideas about healthcare, debt, wages, taxes, etc?
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Posted 23 February 2020 - 05:38 AM

Just my opinion, but I don't think he's capable of selling his policies as mainstream (even though they are); he has too much of a reputation for being an extremist, his personality and approach support that reputation, and everything he tries to pass is going to be viewed in that light.

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Posted 23 February 2020 - 05:41 AM

Might we not see the same effect on the Congress and Senate that Trump has had, if you see the "Bernies" pressure their Representatives across country?
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Posted 23 February 2020 - 05:56 AM

Bernie seems like he has a good chance of winning the democratic primary and being the presidential candidate.

Can he beat trump? Seems like he may be too extreme for most independents, some democrats and mya drive republicans out to vote in droves for trump? Not an expert but at least that’s the prevailing opinion I seem to pick up.
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Posted 23 February 2020 - 06:00 AM

The people who left the Republican Party because of Trump (and there are a lot of them) tend to hate Bernie overall. I doubt that will be very important in the grand scheme of things but then there is the Hillary wing of the Democratic Party that still hates Bernie because of 2016. They will (mostly) vote for him if he is the nominee, though, and tbh they are more likely to show up in the general election than many of Bernie's actual voters.

Even discussing this sort of thing seems naive though. Trump is an authoritarian. I will be very surprised if he loses. He is probably doing everything in his power as we speak to make sure that he does not lose. If he breaks the law to that end, there is no one left who will stop him or hold him accountable.

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Posted 23 February 2020 - 06:40 AM

What There's said.

Assuming he keeps enough sanity to not be put in the assylum expect Trump to try and force himself into a third term
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Posted 23 February 2020 - 06:56 AM

No one is going to put him in an asylum either. He knows that if he loses to a Democrat, he is going to jail and he is not getting pardoned any time soon. You think he's going to let that happen? Not a chance in hell.

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Posted 23 February 2020 - 07:13 AM

View PostCause, on 23 February 2020 - 05:56 AM, said:

Bernie seems like he has a good chance of winning the democratic primary and being the presidential candidate.

Can he beat trump? Seems like he may be too extreme for most independents, some democrats and mya drive republicans out to vote in droves for trump? Not an expert but at least that’s the prevailing opinion I seem to pick up.


Yeah ... nah.

There's a lot more people in Trump's base than Bernie's. And a lot more who will be motivated to vote.

Americans tend to gather their skirts and have fainting spells at the mere suggestion of something vaguely social-ist. So there's that barrier.
There's too much wealth opposed to any ideas he may potentially represent as well. You can expect the nastiest and most ubiquitous ads and stories about him. It will make any previous campaign look like polite gossip at high tea.

Sadly, Bernie has the proverbial snowflake's chance in Hell. Unless partway through the election campaign something comes to light about Trump that repulses even his base. It will have to be something truly obscene though to get that lot to reverse their votes. I'm genuinely having trouble imagining what that could be. Which really says a lot about the mental and moral reputation of his rusted-on supporters. Anyone who publicly states he is Superman or was sent by God is a case for euthanasia.

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Posted 23 February 2020 - 08:16 AM

Has there been any analysis on the differences or overlap between Trump and Bernie supporters? I could definitely see a lot of Trump's 2016 voters choose Bernie in 2020. If we assume that a substantial amount of them were voting to upset the status quo because Trump was a wild card.

I see Bernie having much the same appeal to the poorest Trump supporters. Assuming Fox News doesn't hypnotize them.
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