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#10561 User is offline   Aptorian 

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 06:15 AM

Would be sort of fun if, now that we're approaching the election, Twitter just banned the president. What would it do to Trump's communication? Would he shift to tick tock? Or Facebook? My Space?
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Posted 28 May 2020 - 06:16 AM

Probably Pornhub and Tinder.
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Posted 28 May 2020 - 06:48 AM

Wouldn't it be delicious if the fallout from this meant that social media Surrey became accountable, and the reps couldn't filling with lies this run around?
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Posted 28 May 2020 - 11:40 AM

View PostAptorian, on 28 May 2020 - 06:15 AM, said:

Would be sort of fun if, now that we're approaching the election, Twitter just banned the president. What would it do to Trump's communication? Would he shift to tick tock? Or Facebook? My Space?


I always wondered what if Twitter was not a US company...like if it was made and run from ANYWHERE else in the world (barring Russia) then the POTUS would have been shut out of it YEARS ago.

That said, I would LOVE to see him try to shut them down...it would be a laughably bad idea to try to force a privately owned company to operate only as he sees fit or get shut down.

Beyond that, he won't shut them...becuase he has no where else to spit his randomness that is seen by most of his base...they MIGHT be savvy enough to flip over to Instagram....MAYBE, but the majority of them are not savvy enough for any of the other widely used social media platforms...like Try TikTok Mr. President....the Chinese company that owns it would stomp down hard on your rhetoric.
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Posted 28 May 2020 - 11:42 AM

Is there also a demographic issue with Twitter. I.e TikTok and insta have a demographic that isnt going to be as responsive to Trump? Twitter is more aligned with his core base.
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Posted 28 May 2020 - 11:54 AM

View PostCyphon, on 28 May 2020 - 11:42 AM, said:

Is there also a demographic issue with Twitter. I.e TikTok and insta have a demographic that isnt going to be as responsive to Trump? Twitter is more aligned with his core base.


As someone who is on TikTok, believe me there are a fair number of Trump supporters on there....they are far, far outweighed by the anti-Trump people mind you, but there's enough Trump supporters to be noticeable.

But largely, yes Twitter is the biggest pool of his base, and the bots that seek to pretend to be his base.
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Posted 28 May 2020 - 12:24 PM

Side tangent. What are you doing on tiktok, QT? Are you making super cute dance videos?
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Posted 28 May 2020 - 12:32 PM

View PostAptorian, on 28 May 2020 - 12:24 PM, said:

Side tangent. What are you doing on tiktok, QT? Are you making super cute dance videos?


I blame my nephew for showing my wife and I the app and constantly laughing at the content, and now we both are on it just to watch others make clever videos. It's like a YouTube account for me, following interesting content.

Wife wanted me to make super cute dance videos with her, but I can't dance to save my life and neither can she...
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Posted 28 May 2020 - 12:34 PM

View PostAptorian, on 28 May 2020 - 12:24 PM, said:

Side tangent. What are you doing on tiktok, QT? Are you making super cute dance videos?


Ewwwww. My eyes! :no

OTOH, finally a legitimate reason for Trumptards to use their bleach and stare at the sun ...

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 03:32 PM

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 06:56 PM

We'll that can't be real or legal?
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 05:02 AM

Trump's executive order targeting Social media apparently makes the platform legally vulnerable or responsible for their users posts.

I find this baffling. On the one hand, good??? Maybe they'll actually take responsibility for all the hate that gets spewed but on the other hand, how the hell does this help Trump? A lot of what he posts or retweets will now have to be removed because it violates their terms of service.
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 05:38 AM

Trump on Twitter:

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....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!'

https://twitter.com/...231100780744704

He also retweeted a video which said 'the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat':

'[...] and added the comment, “Thank you Cowboys. See you in New Mexico!” [...] Griffin’s comments were originally made on May 17, 2020, during an event in Truth or Consequences, a city in New Mexico. He equivocated by saying, “I don’t say that in the physical sense,” although the local newspaper, the Alamogordo Daily News, pointed out that “his prior statements received cheers from the crowd before the clarification.”'

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 05:52 AM

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 04:20 PM

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'Twitter says President Donald Trump and the White House's official Twitter (TWTR) account have violated its rule against glorifying violence and has affixed a warning label to tweets on both, marking the first time such action has been taken against the accounts.

[...] This means the tweets will not be removed, but will be hidden behind a notice that says "this Tweet violated the Twitter Rules about glorifying violence. However, Twitter has determined that it may be in the public's interest for the Tweet to remain accessible." Users can view it if they click past the notice.

[...] Hours after Twitter flagged the tweet from Trump, the official White House account posted the same message. Twitter then took the same action with that message.

"As is standard with this notice, engagements with the Tweet will be limited," Twitter said in a tweet explaining its earlier decision to place a warning label on Trump's tweet.

"People will be able to Retweet with Comment, but will not be able to Like, Reply or Retweet it."

[...] Trump continued his criticisms of Twitter on Friday after it labeled his post, tweeting that "it well be regulated."'

https://www.cnn.com/...olis/index.html

'Gunfire Erupted at Several George Floyd Protests and People Were Shot

Protesters around the country are being exposed to a deadly new element: gunfire.

Seven people were shot during the protest in Louisville, and at least one is in critical condition, police told CBS. A spokesperson for the Louisville Metro Police told the the AP that police officers were not involved in the shootings, and that they are under investigation. [So they 'know' police officers weren't involved without doing any investigation? Meanwhile, there's video evidence on Twitter of apparent off-duty police engaging in destruction of property.]

[...] Gunfire was not the only violent incident in Denver. A woman drove her car into a crowd of protesters who were blocking the street. Nobody appeared to be injured.'

https://www.vice.com...-have-been-shot

'Minnesota police arrest CNN team on live television

CNN's Omar Jimenez was taken into police custody during a live broadcast at the site of the protests in Minneapolis, after clearly identifying himself to officers. Jimenez's crew were also placed in handcuffs.'

https://edition.cnn....-newday-vpx.cnn

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 04:31 PM

As to Jiminez, he was freed an hour later (likely because the cops realize they fucked up large), and followed up live on TV. It should not be lost on anyone that he is a POC and was arrested without so much as a reason or word.


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Posted 29 May 2020 - 04:56 PM

View PostAptorian, on 29 May 2020 - 05:02 AM, said:

Trump's executive order targeting Social media apparently makes the platform legally vulnerable or responsible for their users posts.

I find this baffling. On the one hand, good??? Maybe they'll actually take responsibility for all the hate that gets spewed but on the other hand, how the hell does this help Trump? A lot of what he posts or retweets will now have to be removed because it violates their terms of service.



He's trying his petulant man-baby thing to try to distract from the disastrous handling of the COVID stuff.
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 05:07 PM

Oh it gets better. Twitter has tagged one of his tweets as inciting violence. Things are getting interesting.
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 05:12 PM

View PostAptorian, on 29 May 2020 - 05:07 PM, said:

Oh it gets better. Twitter has tagged one of his tweets as inciting violence. Things are getting interesting.


The EO he wrote says they are now responsible for content on their platform, which means they are legally liable for content. Now, I'd suggest the president can't change a passed law with an EO, but his enablers are letting him get away with lots of things. I think it'll be struck down in the courts but I'm sure Twitter's legal department is telling them to go hard at deleting/warning questionable shit.
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 05:14 PM

I really hope so. I REALLY hope that they smash a bunch of Republican senators and cite this dumb EO...
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