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#7461 User is offline   Azath Vitr (D'ivers 

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 02:58 PM

View PostObdigore, on 14 September 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

View PostCause, on 14 September 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

Why do. So many people hate Hillary?


Because of 20+ years of conservative attacks on the clintons.

When Bill was Gov. of Arkansas, Hillary was all about single payer health care, and that caused the conservatives to lose their marbles.



Biotech stocks plummeted (no more price gouging in the US market, oh no), and a lot of rich people sold them and lost a large amount of money.

For many social conservatives---they started hating her because they didn't believe women should be ambitious or hold positions of power. Her blatant and awkward attempts to make herself more "likable" reinforced the stereotype of a manipulative, duplicitous, inauthentic woman trying to use her husband to gain undeserved power.

Meanwhile, the Republican party was becoming militantly hyperpartisan, Fox News had just started, unhinged right-wing talk radio was booming, and the Republican congress was abusing its investigative powers to try to bring down her husband's presidency.


All these factors combined to support the first runs of conspiracy theories.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 03:07 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 14 September 2018 - 02:50 PM, said:

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 14 September 2018 - 02:40 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 14 September 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

Manafort Flips, makes deal with Mueller, pleads guilty.

The Twitter explosion from Orange Cheeto man ought to be good on this one.


We'll see what he actually says. Frankly, there's no getting rid of trump before 2020. He can be impeached by a Dem held House, but there is no way in hell Turtleman and his followers would ever get 66 votes to actually ouster him. He'd literally have to shoot someone, on live tv, with millions of people watching while yelling white power! to come even close to being ousted.


I mean it's just interesting now because Manafort was at the tower meeting....Jared and Jr. are clearly next ion Mueller's eyeline, no?


Does the Cheese Puff Marsh Mellow Man take the blame to save his spawn? Or does he sacrifice his own Young to continue on.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 03:18 PM

View PostAlternative Goose, on 14 September 2018 - 03:07 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 14 September 2018 - 02:50 PM, said:

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 14 September 2018 - 02:40 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 14 September 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

Manafort Flips, makes deal with Mueller, pleads guilty.

The Twitter explosion from Orange Cheeto man ought to be good on this one.


We'll see what he actually says. Frankly, there's no getting rid of trump before 2020. He can be impeached by a Dem held House, but there is no way in hell Turtleman and his followers would ever get 66 votes to actually ouster him. He'd literally have to shoot someone, on live tv, with millions of people watching while yelling white power! to come even close to being ousted.


I mean it's just interesting now because Manafort was at the tower meeting....Jared and Jr. are clearly next ion Mueller's eyeline, no?


Does the Cheese Puff Marsh Mellow Man take the blame to save his spawn? Or does he sacrifice his own Young to continue on.


I'm not sure, he might. But from all we've seen and heard, I don't think it's unfair to think that he's incapable of sacrificing himself for another. Even if that other is his son.

I mean, it'd be interesting to see if he had those kinds of balls, but I rather doubt it.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 03:38 PM

I doubt he would even Save his beloved Ivanka if he had the opportunity.

The man has no empathy whatsoever.

He will save himself over others time and time again.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 03:53 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 14 September 2018 - 03:38 PM, said:

I doubt he would even Save his beloved Ivanka if he had the opportunity.

The man has no empathy whatsoever.

He will save himself over others time and time again.


Might be the bargaining chip he has always wanted over Ivanka
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 04:15 PM

View PostCause, on 14 September 2018 - 03:53 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 14 September 2018 - 03:38 PM, said:

I doubt he would even Save his beloved Ivanka if he had the opportunity.

The man has no empathy whatsoever.

He will save himself over others time and time again.


Might be the bargaining chip he has always wanted over Ivanka


What, you don't mean to...




Do you?

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Screw you all, and have a nice day!

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 05:03 PM

So it looks like the Plea Deal is Pardon-Proof, AND the Mueller investigation (due to it getting the forfeited $46milion from Manafort) is now in the black (no more complaints of "shut this down, it is costing us too much!").

It's a pretty solid Friday.

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 05:51 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 14 September 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

So it looks like the Plea Deal is Pardon-Proof, AND the Mueller investigation (due to it getting the forfeited $46milion from Manafort) is now in the black (no more complaints of "shut this down, it is costing us too much!").

It's a pretty solid Friday.


I open my computer everyday hoping to see news like this.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 06:03 PM

View PostSlow Ben, on 14 September 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 14 September 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

So it looks like the Plea Deal is Pardon-Proof, AND the Mueller investigation (due to it getting the forfeited $46milion from Manafort) is now in the black (no more complaints of "shut this down, it is costing us too much!").

It's a pretty solid Friday.


I open my computer everyday hoping to see news like this.


This.
How many fucking people do I have to hammer in order to get that across.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 06:06 PM

View PostBriar King, on 14 September 2018 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostTiste Simeon, on 14 September 2018 - 07:32 AM, said:

I asked BK that once but as is usual he didn't properly answer my question and then swerved to divert it. I gave up asking because it's a lot of nonsense really ʅ(ツ)ʃ


This is becoming tiresome Tiste. The only time I recall you asking about her is when you asked how them emails where when I said I hope diplomacy could work in NK situation. I’ve not swerved or diverted shit that I recall. I’ve “lmao” once when I was challenged by someone who tells fellow members that they need professional help and they then were egged on by someone that has called on another member to go come tear post up here in thread. So yeah I 1000% loled at that.

Never answered *why* you hate her so much. It was a long time ago I asked, before the election I think.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 09:27 PM

Good god. It doesn't fucking matter anymore. She is gone. Reading this is like 2016. It is 2 years later!

Just everyone shut up about fucking Hillary Clinton.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 09:30 PM

There should be a big difference between 'I don't like her as a presidential candidate,' 'I don't like her as a person,' and 'I hate Hillary.'


But the alliteration does make it catchy. Like 'I like Ike'....

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 09:31 PM

BK, like Nico, is an accelerationist. The more transparently extremist the leadership, the sooner people see the rot at the heart of our entire system and give up the pretense that any of them care about us or that what we call 'civilization' is actually civilized, so... the sooner the revolution. Only those of us who have prepared will survive, and while it's tragic so many will be laid waste amidst the fall, we'll make something better from the ashes. We have to.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 09:49 PM

View PostBriar King, on 14 September 2018 - 09:44 PM, said:

The fuck?!


I'm kind of with you here. That seems very inaccurate. Nico is a big time Prepper, never got that from you. Might disagree a whole lot, but I don't think you are trying to rise from the ashes like a phoenix out of gleeful Armageddon.
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 10:03 PM

Oh he's not? My bad!
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Posted 14 September 2018 - 10:44 PM

Zizek gave an accelerationist justification for voting for Trump. Never imagined him as a doomsday prepper though....
https://www.youtube....h?v=TVwKjGbz60k



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Posted 15 September 2018 - 02:54 AM

DJT is still (like within the last half hour) ranting against the people he let die in Puerto Rico. I hope his heart melts.
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Posted 15 September 2018 - 03:09 AM

View Postworry, on 15 September 2018 - 02:54 AM, said:

DJT is still (like within the last half hour) ranting against the people he let die in Puerto Rico. I hope his heart melts.


In acid? (Better than a nuclear blast....)

Or in my mouth (if only they can come up with a good cure for kuru in time... come on biotech USA, who do you think you're being paid to serve?)?... I'll bet his heart is well-marbled.

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 08:21 AM

So here's something that seems fine and won't be abused at all...

https://www.nbcnews....sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
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Posted 15 September 2018 - 09:48 AM

I imagine it will be very hard to abuse actually. Also if he did he would be smacked hard.

Still I doubt he has a keyboard on his desk that he types the messages himself. It's called the presidential. Alert system but i doubt he himself will be writing the alerts every time a hurricane appears.
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