The USA Politics Thread
#3501
Posted 07 October 2016 - 07:04 AM
I am Chinese-Canadian. Should I watch this out of morbid curiosity or will it just make me mad and hate all Americans?
#3502
Posted 07 October 2016 - 07:24 AM
Nah, it's about Chinese-Americans, to be clear, so hating Americans would be more in line with the FOX side.
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
#3503
Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:51 PM
I'm sorry, I'm a little lost here, was that video a segment from an actual news channel?
I mean, there's no attempt to even be subtle in its attempts at mockery and or picking clearly their worst answers they got in a days shooting. I mean even the question were nonsense, not even leading.
"Now trump wants to build a wall between the us and Mexico, square that circle"
What?
I mean, there's no attempt to even be subtle in its attempts at mockery and or picking clearly their worst answers they got in a days shooting. I mean even the question were nonsense, not even leading.
"Now trump wants to build a wall between the us and Mexico, square that circle"
What?
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#3504
Posted 07 October 2016 - 02:41 PM
Hmm....
One of these things is not like the other.
High Geek of Crawfish, on 06 October 2016 - 12:06 AM, said:
His segments are great for kicks. I love it when he goes out and interviews/makes fun of people.
Imperial Historian, on 06 October 2016 - 06:10 PM, said:
That video is impressively offensive.
QuickTidal, on 06 October 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:
Blindingly offensive. Like on a level that really bothers me.
The best bit of that whole thing is the last guy who obviously was having none of it and sassed him for mispronouncing what he asked him to say in Chinese.
The best bit of that whole thing is the last guy who obviously was having none of it and sassed him for mispronouncing what he asked him to say in Chinese.
worry, on 06 October 2016 - 11:00 PM, said:
Yeah I suppose my point in posting it was that -- as awful as FOX is on the regular -- this is a step beyond. It's the stupid, crass, nakedly unapologetic racism that you see at Trump rallies. That the right still insists no longer exists (milquetoast moderates and liberals who thought it was merely at the harmless fringes have hopefully gotten a wake-up call by now). A whole team of professionals thought this was perfectly fine to air.
One of these things is not like the other.
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#3505
Posted 07 October 2016 - 08:23 PM
Here's some more big laughs!
https://www.washingt...eed4_story.html
(Video portion definitely NSFW, but the text is there too).
https://www.washingt...eed4_story.html
(Video portion definitely NSFW, but the text is there too).
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
#3506
Posted 07 October 2016 - 08:44 PM
worry, on 07 October 2016 - 08:23 PM, said:
Here's some more big laughs!
https://www.washingt...eed4_story.html
(Video portion definitely NSFW, but the text is there too).
https://www.washingt...eed4_story.html
(Video portion definitely NSFW, but the text is there too).
That isn't surprising at all. I love how he said that Clinton has said worst stuff on the golf course. I am sure that he has. BUT he wasn't recorded saying it so.... as the kids say pic or it didn't happen.
How many fucking people do I have to hammer in order to get that across.
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#3507
Posted 07 October 2016 - 08:53 PM
Re: the Chinatown vid.
It's sad that I know people who would be totally serious when they'd comment that Fox is just "showing it how it sometimes is". My parents might fit that category.
Also, I think my feeling towards this vid would be "exasperation" rather than "outrage". Must be a cultural thing- USSR was an ethnically diverse place with racial stereotyping for every group being a thing- and I did absorb that to a degree. So although intellectually I understand that this is way beyond the Western PC line, my reflexive reaction is one of exasperation at idiots who still find this amusing, rather than "how could they do this?".
It's sad that I know people who would be totally serious when they'd comment that Fox is just "showing it how it sometimes is". My parents might fit that category.
Also, I think my feeling towards this vid would be "exasperation" rather than "outrage". Must be a cultural thing- USSR was an ethnically diverse place with racial stereotyping for every group being a thing- and I did absorb that to a degree. So although intellectually I understand that this is way beyond the Western PC line, my reflexive reaction is one of exasperation at idiots who still find this amusing, rather than "how could they do this?".
This post has been edited by Mentalist: 07 October 2016 - 08:53 PM
#3508
Posted 07 October 2016 - 09:24 PM
Mentalist, on 07 October 2016 - 08:53 PM, said:
Re: the Chinatown vid.
It's sad that I know people who would be totally serious when they'd comment that Fox is just "showing it how it sometimes is". My parents might fit that category.
Also, I think my feeling towards this vid would be "exasperation" rather than "outrage". Must be a cultural thing- USSR was an ethnically diverse place with racial stereotyping for every group being a thing- and I did absorb that to a degree. So although intellectually I understand that this is way beyond the Western PC line, my reflexive reaction is one of exasperation at idiots who still find this amusing, rather than "how could they do this?".
It's sad that I know people who would be totally serious when they'd comment that Fox is just "showing it how it sometimes is". My parents might fit that category.
Also, I think my feeling towards this vid would be "exasperation" rather than "outrage". Must be a cultural thing- USSR was an ethnically diverse place with racial stereotyping for every group being a thing- and I did absorb that to a degree. So although intellectually I understand that this is way beyond the Western PC line, my reflexive reaction is one of exasperation at idiots who still find this amusing, rather than "how could they do this?".
I get that, as I can get this perspective too:
But there's a cumulative effect on the exasperation too. Like, you ever try to explain something to someone and they are clearly, deliberately blowing you off as you speak? One of the most annoying things in the world. Anyone who's ever substitute taught knows this. But then you expand that feeling to every day for a couple centuries. That's pretty much what that video is poking at.
I haven't watched this yet, but here's the Daily Show take on it from Ronny Chieng:
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
#3509
Posted 07 October 2016 - 09:46 PM
If that was broadcast by a news channel over here, hell even on channel fucking five news, they would be on their knees grovelling for months to make up for it. The rest of the media outlets would tear them apart for it alone, before offcom got overloaded with complaints.
I just don't get how American politics can be so sceeby and partisan and people not want to totally tear the system apart and start again
ETA - in reference to the watters report video not the daily shows rebuttal. It was a good answer, but I think a bit more subtlety would have made watters look like an even bigger fruitloop, but then people who like his stuff might not have caught the scathing disregard he really should be held in
I just don't get how American politics can be so sceeby and partisan and people not want to totally tear the system apart and start again
ETA - in reference to the watters report video not the daily shows rebuttal. It was a good answer, but I think a bit more subtlety would have made watters look like an even bigger fruitloop, but then people who like his stuff might not have caught the scathing disregard he really should be held in
This post has been edited by Macros: 07 October 2016 - 09:48 PM
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#3510
Posted 08 October 2016 - 03:18 AM
The Nancy referred to in the Trump video appears to be TV host Nancy O'Dell, who it turns out Trump tried to get fired from a job as host of Miss USA one year, prevented only by an NBC contract. http://www.thedailyb...l-advances.html
This may seem gossipy at first, but I think it's right there in line with the Roger Ailes stuff, the Bill O'Reilly harassment scandal, and even the old school racism of that Watters World thing. What does it all have in common? Make America Great Again. The "Again" really is a return to when all of this wouldn't end in any consequences for the people doing & spewing it.
This may seem gossipy at first, but I think it's right there in line with the Roger Ailes stuff, the Bill O'Reilly harassment scandal, and even the old school racism of that Watters World thing. What does it all have in common? Make America Great Again. The "Again" really is a return to when all of this wouldn't end in any consequences for the people doing & spewing it.
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
#3511
Posted 08 October 2016 - 03:29 AM
High Geek of Crawfish, on 08 October 2016 - 03:09 AM, said:
I want to make this 100% clear. I've not seen that video at all. The link worry provides shows a pic of 2 Asians and Watters seemingly dancing and all smiling so I responded hey I like his skits when he goes out and picks on people. The ones I've seen have him asking the most basic common knowledge questions and it's funny how many don't know the answers to. So since I didn't respond oh that vid is horrible and unsurprising Amp goes and labels my response to the others. I actually enjoy this most times cause I'm like this dude is a trip telling me what my true meaning is. Not this time. Your extremely wrong to try and put that image on me and MACROS...we don't like each other one bit but damn son you shocked me with that racist rep...I guess you didn't see when I posted if I ever got remarried I want it to be with an AA.
Yeah, what you just said at the end doesn't make you sound not racist.
Just saying.
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#3512
Posted 08 October 2016 - 03:41 AM
I don't want to derail the thread since this isn't strictly (or at least solely) political, but in light of and in response to Trump's statements I think this is important. Just firsthand experiences of women who've been the prey of men like Trump: https://twitter.com/...541062119456769
I really don't wanna tell anyone how to vote, I'm not saying vote for Hillary, or really anyone in particular. But if you have any women/girls in your life that you love -- spouses, kids, parents, family, friends, whatever -- you can't vote for this guy. He's a scumbag and, worse than that, he's a predator. And those are the people he preys on. (He's a predator of many stripes, of course, with many victims, but I think today it's worthwhile to focus on the women).
I really don't wanna tell anyone how to vote, I'm not saying vote for Hillary, or really anyone in particular. But if you have any women/girls in your life that you love -- spouses, kids, parents, family, friends, whatever -- you can't vote for this guy. He's a scumbag and, worse than that, he's a predator. And those are the people he preys on. (He's a predator of many stripes, of course, with many victims, but I think today it's worthwhile to focus on the women).
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
#3513
Posted 08 October 2016 - 05:42 AM
EmperorMagus, on 08 October 2016 - 03:29 AM, said:
High Geek of Crawfish, on 08 October 2016 - 03:09 AM, said:
I want to make this 100% clear. I've not seen that video at all. The link worry provides shows a pic of 2 Asians and Watters seemingly dancing and all smiling so I responded hey I like his skits when he goes out and picks on people. The ones I've seen have him asking the most basic common knowledge questions and it's funny how many don't know the answers to. So since I didn't respond oh that vid is horrible and unsurprising Amp goes and labels my response to the others. I actually enjoy this most times cause I'm like this dude is a trip telling me what my true meaning is. Not this time. Your extremely wrong to try and put that image on me and MACROS...we don't like each other one bit but damn son you shocked me with that racist rep...I guess you didn't see when I posted if I ever got remarried I want it to be with an AA.
Yeah, what you just said at the end doesn't make you sound not racist.
Just saying.
I am reminded of a certain person who used to creep everyone out in the HAWT thread.
Does the HAWT thread still exist? I haven't clicked on the Inn in a few years.
Ah, the good old days of trolling the HAWT thread with pictures of hawt dudes kissing each other. There are probably still a couple of dudes on this forum who haven't forgiven me for that.
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Please proceed, Governor.
Chris Christie (2016) said:
There it is.
Elizabeth Warren (2020) said:
And no, I’m not talking about Donald Trump. I’m talking about Mayor Bloomberg.
#3514
Posted 08 October 2016 - 06:21 AM
Why was I mentioned in capital letters?
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#3515
#3516
Posted 08 October 2016 - 03:50 PM
HoosierDaddy, on 27 September 2016 - 01:43 AM, said:
Is this real life? This dude is a major party nominee?
Lol.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#3517
Posted 08 October 2016 - 04:29 PM
This is fucking surreal.
This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 08 October 2016 - 04:29 PM
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#3518
Posted 08 October 2016 - 06:13 PM
HoosierDaddy, on 08 October 2016 - 04:29 PM, said:
This is fucking surreal.
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
This is what you get.
And don't you fucking dare vote Pence. He's just as bad.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#3519
#3520
Posted 08 October 2016 - 08:00 PM
Trump got caught on tape admitting to sexually assaulting women and bragging about it. The party is dumping him in dramatic fashion.
The President (2012) said:
Please proceed, Governor.
Chris Christie (2016) said:
There it is.
Elizabeth Warren (2020) said:
And no, I’m not talking about Donald Trump. I’m talking about Mayor Bloomberg.