[worry]

With the way it starts out...and with the way conservatives pipe in the comments as recently as this month to take vague, toothless, infoless potshots at the author.

[Nicodimas]

Check out this information... Yes I like Denniger:

https://market-ticke...www?post=230575

Really amazing if the Republican's go with something like the above.

[HoosierDaddy]

I hope you own stock in Market Ticker, Nico. Hot damn you treat that thing like gospel! Lol.

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 25 August 2015 - 07:55 PM

[Nicodimas]

HoosierDaddy, on 25 August 2015 - 07:55 PM, said:

I hope you own stock in Market Ticker, Nico. Hot damn you treat that thing like gospel! Lol.

I like a few different sources, He appeals to me.. as he thinks the same way I do.

[HoosierDaddy]

Donald Trump is the most narcissistic ass I've ever seen, and that's saying something for a politician. Jesus Christ, what heroin are people smoking who actually LIKE him? He's so fucking ignorant as to actual policy that he makes George W. look like Thomas Jefferson.

[Nicodimas]

HoosierDaddy, on 25 August 2015 - 11:48 PM, said:

Donald Trump is the most narcissistic ass I've ever seen, and that's saying something for a politician. Jesus Christ, what heroin are people smoking who actually LIKE him? He's so fucking ignorant as to actual policy that he makes George W. look like Thomas Jefferson.

We live in a world where it could be

R: Bush
D: Clinton
3rd Party: Trump.

I can't be the only one that just grimaces seeing that right.....?

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 26 August 2015 - 12:00 AM

[Terez]

It's kind of amazing that people still think Bush is the most likely to end up with the nomination when he's polling so badly. I'm not saying they're wrong. Just that it's amazing that people might actually end up nominating someone they clearly would rather not nominate.

Pundits call this phase of the presidential primary the window-shopping phase. It's the phase that elevates people like Rudy Giuliani and Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain, none of whom ever came close to the nomination. It reflects the gut instincts of the party base.

[amphibian]

The odd thing is that Trump isn't a new phenomenon in American politics. He's the biggest incarnation of a very old type of meta-poltitics: the rich bigot with isolationist ideas.

For a long while, mayors, governors, Congressmen, and the occasional President were exactly this kind of person.

It's only in maybe the last seventy years that we haven't seen a President actually be one of these - although many governors, senators, representatives and mayors still are Trumpian.

King Briar may recall stories of Huey and Earl Long from years back.

[Lost Marine]

I still think Trump is a distraction for the Democrats. Keeps all the news networks focused on the circus and inflaming rhetoric to splinter the Republican base.

Honestly I think Bush probably scares them a little. He's moderate on immigration and a lot of Hispanics are more conservative in their views on things. Immigration has been a great way to secure Hispanic votes for the Democrats. Trump going out and inflaming the morons in the Republican base is forcing the other candidates to be more harsh in their stance on immigration issues.

I still don't understand why it's such a big deal. The folks are here, they want to work, and most of them are good people.

[Nicodimas]

Lost Marine, on 26 August 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

I still think Trump is a distraction for the Democrats. Keeps all the news networks focused on the circus and inflaming rhetoric to splinter the Republican base.

Honestly I think Bush probably scares them a little. He's moderate on immigration and a lot of Hispanics are more conservative in their views on things. Immigration has been a great way to secure Hispanic votes for the Democrats. Trump going out and inflaming the morons in the Republican base is forcing the other candidates to be more harsh in their stance on immigration issues.

I still don't understand why it's such a big deal. The folks are here, they want to work, and most of them are good people.

I think the immigration debate get's lost when it translates from the local border state stage to the national stage. I mean really drone bomb caves ? I think that most border states true worries focus on Sex Slavery, Coyotes and Labour trafficking and the Cartels/Abductions/Ransoming problems. These usually go with the drug trade, but with bad people, bad things can happen to good people. On the national stage it gets escalated to a whole culture for some reason...I don't think anyone care's about people trying to find jobs and make for a better life. It's really the debate on how to keep the cartels/coyotes from growing in more influence in the southern states.

[Illuyankas]

I've stopped following the US stuff as much (apart from wishing Trump goes 3rd party so bad because your country needs a Democrat to appoint the next few Supreme Court members or you are fucked) but Bush Zero is doing a bang up job of destroying himself every time he opens his mouth*

*opinion not valid until next year's polls exist

[Lost Marine]

Nicodimas, on 26 August 2015 - 05:17 PM, said:

Lost Marine, on 26 August 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

I still think Trump is a distraction for the Democrats. Keeps all the news networks focused on the circus and inflaming rhetoric to splinter the Republican base.

Honestly I think Bush probably scares them a little. He's moderate on immigration and a lot of Hispanics are more conservative in their views on things. Immigration has been a great way to secure Hispanic votes for the Democrats. Trump going out and inflaming the morons in the Republican base is forcing the other candidates to be more harsh in their stance on immigration issues.

I still don't understand why it's such a big deal. The folks are here, they want to work, and most of them are good people.

I think the immigration debate get's lost when it translates from the local border state stage to the national stage. I mean really drone bomb caves ? I think that most border states true worries focus on Sex Slavery, Coyotes and Labour trafficking and the Cartels/Abductions/Ransoming problems. These usually go with the drug trade, but with bad people, bad things can happen to good people. On the national stage it gets escalated to a whole culture for some reason...I don't think anyone care's about people trying to find jobs and make for a better life. It's really the debate on how to keep the cartels/coyotes from growing in more influence in the southern states.

I think a lot of it on the national stage plays into the old giving worthless people someone else to look down on to gain votes. In the bad old days in the South it was black folks who were going to "take our jobs" and now it's mexican folks who are going to take our jobs. Although to tell you the truth I don't see the lines of folks wanting to pick watermelons, rake pine straw, or wipe up shit all day here. It's just a newer semi-acceptable Jim Crow.

It makes sense politically though, it's not your fault that you stopped going to school after the ninth grade and can't get out of pajamas before 3 pm. Those mexicans are picking your melons!

I understand why folks living on a remote ranch near the Mexican border are a little nervous about what's coming across. The sex slavery, drugs, and other assorted badness is another ball of wax though. You can build all the walls you want and stop every sucker coming across and you'll find millions of people born right here willing to sling dope and pimp out 12 yr olds.

[EmperorMagus]

I saw a comparison of Obama's 2008 polling numbers to Bernie's. Link
Coincidence? I think not.

[Tapper]

King Briar, on 26 August 2015 - 01:16 AM, said:

I liked what he was saying about Patton and McA. Other then that it was a lot of talk about owning buildings lol. I ll admit to being totally entertained by the man. I never ever ever watch this stuff this early but I can't stop this go around.

It's probably no coincidence that he named those two specifically. McArthur was always supremely concerned about his own image and Patton expressed himself in the same black-and-white way as Trump uses so far. Trumps' "losing to Mexico, Brazil" has a direct relation to Patton's speech to the Third Army about 'Murica being a winner.

[Terez]

EmperorMagus, on 27 August 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

I saw a comparison of Obama's 2008 polling numbers to Bernie's. Link
Coincidence? I think not.

Rains on your parade:

http://fivethirtyeig...o-barack-obama/

https://www.washingt...8059_story.html

[LinearPhilosopher]

Bernie vs Trump.

Battle of the opposite poles?

[amphibian]

Apart from immigration related policies and dismissive attitudes towards women in the workplace, Trump's stated policies are mostly moderate (for the party).

Walker, Huckabee, and Jindal are the ones way out there in Crazy Fringe Land.

That's a fascinating thing to say and observe, by the way.

[Terez]

Yes, Trump is really exposing the sad truth of the Republican Party: that nearly half their voters are Republican for reasons of xenophobia and sexism alone.

[HoosierDaddy]

I don't get the hate for Hillary. She's a polished expert, with foreign policy and state credentials. Has she done some shady stuff? Yeah, give me a 40 year veteran politician that doesn't have some history.

Sanders: Couldn't possibly win the election. Dems have to move on and be grateful he's attempting to move the party left.

Biden: Would be interesting but would result in Demo civil war, imo.

[worry]

Here's a pretty good (clearly sympathetic, but not apologetic) breakdown of Hillary Clinton's relationship with the liberal left over the course of her public life: http://www.thenation...-over-the-left/