[Terez]

Obama gets Bloomberg; Romney gets Meat Loaf.

[HoosierDaddy]

Terez, on 02 November 2012 - 04:25 AM, said:

Obama gets Bloomberg; Romney gets Meat Loaf.

Robert Paulson. And he has bitch tits.

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 02 November 2012 - 04:31 AM

[Obdigore]

The Economist Grudgingly Supports Obama

The Economist is a very libertarian/conservative paper, btw.

[Terez]

Quote

This newspaper yearns for the more tolerant conservatism of Ronald Reagan, where “small government” meant keeping the state out of people’s bedrooms as well as out of their businesses.

Said without any irony at all...

[worry]

He stayed out of people's bedrooms by pretending AIDS didn't exist while thousands of Americans died. I guess that counts.

Anyway, did you guys see this crazy story? It's more congressional than presidential I suppose (though the stakes are universal):

http://www.huffingto..._n_2059156.html
http://www.nytimes.c...-tax-rates.html

[Morgoth]

Yeah, though I disagree with many of the Economist views, especially when it comes to american politics, I agree with much of what they said in that article (it's a testament to the extreeme polarisation of American politics that even the Economist show less objectivity covering the American election than they do the English).

It's been obvious for a while that the Economist have desperatly wanted to vote for Romney as theoretically he's their ideal candidate. However, the last year has pretty much crushed all their dreams to dust.

[Obdigore]

Morgoth, on 02 November 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

Yeah, though I disagree with many of the Economist views, especially when it comes to american politics, I agree with much of what they said in that article (it's a testament to the extreeme polarisation of American politics that even the Economist show less objectivity covering the American election than they do the English).

It's been obvious for a while that the Economist have desperatly wanted to vote for Romney as theoretically he's their ideal candidate. However, the last year has pretty much crushed all their dreams to dust.

Which is why it should be a big deal. Of course, anyone who reads Economist in the US most likely already voting for a third party candidate.

[Terez]

Morgoth, on 02 November 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

It's been obvious for a while that the Economist have desperatly wanted to vote for Romney as theoretically he's their ideal candidate. However, the last year has pretty much crushed all their dreams to dust.

The GOP is good for that. They probably crushed Romney's dreams too.

[Terez]

Obdigore, on 02 November 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

Of course, anyone who reads Economist in the US most likely already voting for a third party candidate.

The comments sections generally indicate that they know better.

[worry]

You're forgetting that The Economist is part of the leftist lamestream media: http://www.nationalr...rew-stuttaford#

[Obdigore]

worrywort, on 02 November 2012 - 10:20 AM, said:

You're forgetting that The Economist is part of the leftist lamestream media: http://www.nationalr...rew-stuttaford#

RINO NEWSPAPERS! RINO COLLIN POWELL! RINO ... uhm... Chris Christy?

[Terez]

There are no Republicans in foxholes hurricanes.

Edit: jobs report in 2 hours. I hope the good news momentum lasts.

Edit: it seems I have the distinction of living in one of only 5 states not polled this entire election cycle. (MS, AK, SC, ND, and NE.)

This post has been edited by Terez: 02 November 2012 - 10:35 AM

[Obdigore]

Early reports look good, but we have to wait for the real job report

http://www.forbes.co...nfarm-payrolls/

[amphibian]

Terez, on 02 November 2012 - 10:32 AM, said:

(MS, AK, SC, ND, and NE.)

Nebraska just threw out all their moderate Republicans in the state legislature and installed ultra-conservatives. The races were influenced in a big way by outside money and PACs/super-PACs.

[Terez]

7.9%. Those Chicago guys have it down now. A little higher so no one will say the BLS fudged the numbers, but still under 8%. I got your number, David Axelrod!

[Vengeance]

Terez, on 02 November 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

7.9%. Those Chicago guys have it down now. A little higher so no one will say the BLS fudged the numbers, but still under 8%. I got your number, David Axelrod!

I don't know what your talking about Terez.

[Vengeance]

A op piece by the President


My vision for America



For the past few days, all of us have been properly focused on one of the worst storms of our lifetimes. We mourn those who were lost. And we pledge to stand with those whose lives have been turned upside down for as long as it takes them to recover and rebuild.

Because when hardship hits, America is at its best. The petty differences that consume us in normal times quickly melt away. There are no Democrats or Republicans during a storm -- only fellow Americans. That's how we get through the most trying times: together.
President Barack Obama
President Barack Obama

Four years ago, we were mired in two wars and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Together, we've battled our way back. The war in Iraq is over, Osama bin Laden is dead, and our heroes are coming home. Our businesses have created more than 5 million new jobs in the last two and half years. Home values and 401(k)s are rising. We are less dependent on foreign oil than at any time in the last 20 years. And the American auto industry is back.

We're not there yet. But we've made real progress. And on Tuesday, America will get to choose between two fundamentally different visions of what makes America strong.

Mitt Romney: My vision for America

I believe America's prosperity was built on the strength of our middle class. We don't succeed when a few at the top do well while everyone else struggles to get by -- we're better off when everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules.

When Bill Clinton was president, he believed that if America invested in the skills and ideas of its people, good jobs and businesses would follow. His economic plan asked the wealthiest Americans to pay a little more so we could reduce our deficit and still invest in job training and education, research and technology, better health care and a dignified retirement. And what happened? By the end of his second term, our economy created 23 million new jobs. Incomes rose. Poverty fell. Deficits became the biggest surplus in history.

The path Governor Romney offers is the one we tried for eight years after President Clinton left office -- a philosophy that says those at the very top get to play by a very different set of rules than everyone else. Bigger tax cuts for the wealthy that we can't afford. Encouraging companies to ship jobs and profits overseas. Fewer rules for big banks and insurance companies. They're the policies that caused this mess in the first place.

Your turn: What's your vision for America?
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In the closing weeks of this campaign, Governor Romney has started calling himself an agent of change. And I'll give him one thing -- offering another $5 trillion tax cut weighted towards the wealthy, $2 trillion in defense spending our military didn't ask for, and more power for big banks and insurance companies is change, all right. But it's not the change we need.

We know what real change looks like. And we can't give up on it now.
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Change is an America where people of every age have the skills and education that good jobs require. We took on banks that had been overcharging for student loans for decades, and made college more affordable for millions. Now we'll recruit 100,000 math and science teachers so that high-tech, high-wage jobs don't end up in China, and train 2 million workers at community colleges for the skills local businesses need right now.

Change is an America that's home to the next generation of manufacturing and innovation. I'm not the candidate who said we should "let Detroit go bankrupt," I'm the president who bet on American workers and American ingenuity. Now I want a tax code that stops rewarding companies that ship jobs overseas, and starts rewarding companies that create jobs here; one that stops subsidizing oil company profits, and keeps supporting clean energy jobs and technology that will cut our oil imports in half.

Change is an America that turns the page on a decade of war to do some nation-building here at home. So long as I'm commander-in-chief, we'll pursue our enemies with the strongest military in the world. But it's time to use the savings from ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to pay down our debt and rebuild America -- our roads and bridges and schools.

Change is an America where we reduce our deficit by cutting spending where we can, and asking the wealthiest Americans to go back to the income tax rates they paid when Bill Clinton was president. I've worked with Republicans to cut a trillion dollars of spending, and I'll do more. I'll work with anyone of any party to move this country forward. But I won't agree to eliminate health insurance for millions of poor, elderly, or disabled on Medicaid, or turn Medicare into a voucher just to pay for another millionaire's tax cut.

The folks at the very top don't need another champion in Washington. The people who need a champion in Washington are the Americans whose letters I read at night; the men and women I meet on the trail every day. The cooks and cleaning staff working overtime at a Las Vegas hotel. The furniture worker retraining for a career in biotechnology at age 55. The teacher who's forced to spend less time with each student in her crowded classroom. Her kids, who dream of becoming something great. Every small business owner trying to expand and do right by his or her employees -- all of these Americans need a champion in Washington.

When these Americans do well, America does well. That's the change we need right now. It's time to finish what we've started -- to educate our kids, train our workers, create new jobs, new energy, and new opportunity -- to make sure that no matter who you are, where you come from, or how you started out, this is the country where you can make it if you try.

The America we believe in is within our reach. The future we hope for is within our sights. That's why I'm asking for your vote this Tuesday.

[Terez]

I love this bit:

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Editor's note: Barack Obama is president of the United States.

[Khellendros]

Interesting article - or at least I thought so:

http://www.guardian....ericans-paradox

About Obama's most 'loyal' electoral base being by far the hardest hit during his term as President. Says something about the depressing state of politics and voter participation more than anything else really.

[HoosierDaddy]

Khellendros, on 05 November 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

Interesting article - or at least I thought so:

http://www.guardian....ericans-paradox

About Obama's most 'loyal' electoral base being by far the hardest hit during his term as President. Says something about the depressing state of politics and voter participation more than anything else really.

No, it doesn't. Not really.

Correlation is not causality and this dumbs down the economic crisis to a huge degree.