[Obdigore]

worry, on 03 February 2015 - 10:12 PM, said:

Remember when conventional wisdom suggested that the House had all the crazies and the Senate is where all the mature adult GOPers did real business?
http://talkingpoints...ng-hands-toilet

Essentially he is saying 'the market will sort itself out' without regulation, but then he suggests there has to be regulation to tell the public about the lack of hands-washing policy. So he is just changing one regulation for another to help the 'market sort itself out'.

It's stupid.

[Nicodimas]

This merits a post.

Watching this carefully...
UNCONFIRMED: There are initial reports of ISIS attack/capture of al-Asad air base in which there are over 300 U.S. marines
#BreakingNews Source: #ISIS has gained control on at least one building inside Asad airbase but sustaining heavy losses..

[Obdigore]

that's all.

[Obdigore]

Nicodimas, on 13 February 2015 - 07:30 PM, said:

This merits a post.

Watching this carefully...
UNCONFIRMED: There are initial reports of ISIS attack/capture of al-Asad air base in which there are over 300 U.S. marines
#BreakingNews Source: #ISIS has gained control on at least one building inside Asad airbase but sustaining heavy losses..

So its been 2 hours and there are no reports of this on Al Jazeera, BBC, or CNN.

So... yea...

[Obdigore]

Yea...

http://www.cnn.com/2...iraq/index.html

So 25 troops attacked a base with thousands of armed defenders, and this is cause for alarm? Not really. And Nico's 'ZOMG THEY HAVE CAPTURED THE BASE!!!! and THEY HAVE AT LEAST ONE BUILDING INSIDE!!!!.

Please.

[Nicodimas]

It was^ unconfirmed. The MSM stated the attacks were 2km away, but the town is 25 km's large to put it into perspective.

[Nicodimas]

and I didn't say OMGz ..lol

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#ISIS has gained control on at least one building inside Asad airbase but sustaining heavy losses..

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[HoosierDaddy]

But you did say Main Stream Media so it's a US Conspiracy Theorist BINGO!

You win with:

B-afraid of your government!
I - think 9/11 was an inside job!
N - one got some tinfoil?
G - is that the NSA? It's the NSA!
O-bama is a lizard!

[Obdigore]

Nicodimas, on 13 February 2015 - 11:10 PM, said:

It was^ unconfirmed. The MSM stated the attacks were 2km away, but the town is 25 km's large to put it into perspective.

From what I understand the Base they are at is 25 square miles.

From my link above

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The base is huge -- roughly the size of Boulder, Colorado, Kirby said. That city is nearly 25 square miles. And U.S. forces were "several kilometers" away from where the fighting happened, the Pentagon said in a statement.

Now, that could be wrong, but it certainly seems to say the base itself, not the city, is nearly 25 square miles.

[Tsundoku]

Interesting summation, reminds me of that rant by Jeff Daniels' character in The Newsroom:

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https://pay.reddit.c...coffers/cpev42b

We have intelligence services growing into a technological capacity that eclipse their very governments.* We have been waging war on drugs for nearly 30 years spanning nearly 15 countries with 120,000+ people killed and countless more missing or injured.* We worry about 'terrorists' some 3000 miles away, while cartels behead people with chainsaws right across our very own borders.* We see near autonomous vehicles scan the skies 24 hours a day in third world countries where children dream of drones and mothers sew blankets with images of them on it.* We've seen our commander in chief redefine the definition of what it means to be a soldier so we can blow up a wedding or birthday party in order to kill a single individual who will easily and willingly be replaced by 12 others.* We enjoy the miracle of flight, by forcing ourselves to stand prone and scanned from head to toe to view our naked bodies, before we have one of our many national identification cards stamped and logged of our travel plans.*
We have corporations that have completely bridled the elective process with money literally being defined as speech, including witness the American tax-payer hand over nearly a trillion dollars.* These are dystopian dictatorships that have more power and wealth than any king or monarch could even fathom. We have a tax system so convoluted, so massively complicated that these very corporations can get away with the government paying them taxes* , a system where the rich pay to find and exploit the loopholes. We live in a world where the top 1% controls more wealth than the lower 50% combined.* We have black sites being operated and maintained on American soil where citizens are no longer read their Miranda rights and not a single major media outlet batted an eye.* Every phone call, every email, every text message sent, every keystroke made is logged and an army of tech savvy mathematicians and scientists combs over them to take the pulse of civil disobedience in the nation.* We've seen a single family fund, organize, and execute 2000 Americans by flying our own planes into the symbol of our financial center without a single iota of justice served, yet a plethora of atrocities in its place all while they are embraced in our bosom as faithful allies.* We've seen a nation wide movement against the banks and income inequality turn up in dozens of major US cities, only to have it violently crushed under the guise of sanitation and 'not being able to get to work'.*
We spend nearly half of our entire budget on military defense to fight enemies who use cell-phone detonation, 50 year old rifles and crock-pots to fight us* ,while our roads, bridges, electric grid, ports and communication networks are rotting and amassing an aging problem so monumental it will take centuries to repair.* We've seen an entire generation of children shackled to the banks through an education system forced upon them under the threat of being successful* with little promises and scant results all while being forced to pay into a safety net of social security that they will never see.* We have seen the size of the government grow every year for decades with no end in sight* while our 'elected' leaders are hand picked by elites of business to have their makeup perfected and suits ironed to speak to us about fringe off topic emotional issues that distract us from the fucking circus that is this country.*
Sleep tight, ladies and gentlemen.
Edit: some people asked for the original text: http://pastebin.com/Kp1dBkXJ#
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If you can suggest any other worthy organizations, PM me will gladly consider them.

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This post has been edited by Sombra: 21 March 2015 - 04:04 AM

[Tsundoku]

Hey Nico!

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http://www.news.com....v-1227274062108

Conspiracy: US Special Forces exercise said to be training for ‘martial law, military coup’
13 HOURS AGO MARCH 23, 2015 7:26AM 8 comments

WHEN the military conducts widespread training exercises, what do you think? Preparedness? Boys’ toys? In the United States it equals civil war.
The US Army’s Special Operations Command never saw this coming.
An upcoming exercise codenamed JADE HELM 15 has sparked suspicion among some conspiracy theorists of impending martial law and a US military plot to wage war on the American people.

“Jade Helm is a challenging eight-week joint military and Interagency (IA) Unconventional Warfare (UW) exercise conducted throughout Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah and Colorado,” a statement announcing a large-scale military training drill reads.
Mobilised will be 1200 troops of the Green Berets, Navy Seals and the 82nd Airborne Division. Supporting them will be specialist aircraft and helicopter units from the US Air Force, Navy and Army.
It’s scheduled to run from July 15 to September 15.
It’s all for a cause: Special forces have special requirements.

They’re maintained at a high level of readiness to respond to hot-spots around the world. This involves the need to travel great distances, assess unfamiliar terrain, find targets and choose appropriate means of action.
The raid in which al-Qaeda kingpin Osama bin Laden was assassinated is one such example.
To achieve such a goal requires a great deal of coordination between large numbers of men from different elements of the military.
So “realistic” practice makes perfect.
But the word “realistic” appears to have some concerning connotations amid the incredibly polarised politics of the United States.
At least when it comes to a slide show presentation said to be associated with the impending exercise.
It has “concerned citizens” up in arms.

At the centre of similar, past training exercises is usually a threatening insurgent action and an objective which either needs to be destroyed or recovered.
But some of the advanced role-play planning for this exercise appears to have leaked.
An unverified document circulating online includes a map purportedly labelling parts of Texas and Utah as an “insurgent pocket”.
It’s titled: “US Army Special Operations Command — Request to Conduct Realistic Military Training (RMT) JADE HELM 15.”

It a document “detailing the US Army’s plan to wage war on the American people,” screams the far-right blog infowars.com.
“Despite the document’s claims, multiple Army training manuals and studies in the past have specifically targeted such states due to concerns over the growing influence of right-leaning ideologies and groups, such as the Tea Party.”

The purported training material also mentions coordinating with local police, increased aircraft in the area at night and soldiers wearing civilian clothes and driving civilian vehicles.
Therefore armed Federal Government suppression of liberty-loving civilians. Right?
That’s left US Special Forces command scratching its collective head.

“That notion was proposed by a few individuals who are unfamiliar with how and why USASOC conducts training exercises,” Special Forces Command spokesman Army Lt. Colonel Mark Lastoria told Stars and Stripes.
The only thing different about JADE HELM 15 was the use of out-of-base “new challenging terrain”, he said, chosen because of its remoteness and similarity to conditions where troops are operational overseas.
Is your state next?

Planned cooperation with local law enforcement was to avoid unfortunate misshape or misunderstandings with the general community.
“This exercise is routine training to maintain a high level of readiness for Army Special Operations Forces,” Major Lastoria reiterates.

It’s also quite a tame conspiracy, considering allegations President Barack Obama recently sought to have the South Carolina city of Charleston nuked.
So who’s telling the truth?
We’ll find out come September 15.

[Gnaw]

Sombra, on 23 March 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

Hey Nico!

It's also quite a tame conspiracy, considering allegations President Barack Obama recently sought to have the South Carolina city of Charleston nuked.
So who's telling the truth?
We'll find out come September 15.

Not really news.

We had a class on just this when I was in basic training in 1982. It's part of the reason patriotism/nationalism are emphasized more heavily at each "higher" echelon of training.

If the regular armed forces join a revolt, the more highly trained units are theoretically capable of stopping it and are more likely to stay loyal.

Regular army forces < Marines, 82nd and 101st < Rangers, Marine Recon < Green Berets < Navy Seals

[Nicodimas]

Sup!

I don't mind the specops training for whatever they deem fit...unlimited reign ya know. Keep them well trained for anything and everything. Also why would a revolt occur? Just doesn't seem very realistic.

If you bored here is a good book to read on this stuff <for fun>
http://www.amazon.co...k/dp/B004JF4L98

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 23 March 2015 - 10:39 PM

[Vengeance]

Gnaw, on 23 March 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

Sombra, on 23 March 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

Hey Nico!

It's also quite a tame conspiracy, considering allegations President Barack Obama recently sought to have the South Carolina city of Charleston nuked.
So who's telling the truth?
We'll find out come September 15.

Not really news.

We had a class on just this when I was in basic training in 1982. It's part of the reason patriotism/nationalism are emphasized more heavily at each "higher" echelon of training.

If the regular armed forces join a revolt, the more highly trained units are theoretically capable of stopping it and are more likely to stay loyal.

Regular army forces < Marines, 82nd and 101st < Rangers, Marine Recon < Green Berets < Navy Seals

Chuck Norris > everyone else combined.

[Gust Hubb]

I despair seeing all the Tea-Party and TP like candidates rising to prominence. Why is the religious right so strong in this country? And why do they have all the money?

[Vengeance]

Gust Hubb, on 18 April 2015 - 07:23 PM, said:

I despair seeing all the Tea-Party and TP like candidates rising to prominence. Why is the religious right so strong in this country? And why do they have all the money?

Because you asked

how corporate America created Christian america

[worry]

And precursor to that (a little long but well worth reading/skimming): http://weeklysift.co...federate-party/

It's divide and conquer.

[Gnaw]

worry, on 20 April 2015 - 01:31 AM, said:

And precursor to that (a little long but well worth reading/skimming): http://weeklysift.co...federate-party/

It's divide and conquer.

Thank you.

Amazing how a couple of sentences can make so many things click into place and make sense.

[Obdigore]

So I'm going to bump this thread because (Trump is running for president), but mainly because I saw this comic today and it made me snortlaugh, and I though I'd share it


From http://boingboing.ne...bug-bill-o.html

[worry]

Sometimes I daydream that Lucky Ducky from TtDB and the penguin from This Modern World team up to beat up Mallard Fillmore.