The USA Politics Thread
#14601
Posted 20 December 2024 - 09:27 AM
And now he wants to ge5 Farage elected, God help the world, why do we enable these rich wankstains?
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#14602
Posted 20 December 2024 - 03:15 PM
Macros, on 20 December 2024 - 09:27 AM, said:
And now he wants to ge5 Farage elected, God help the world, why do we enable these rich wankstains?
Because they own the means of limiting their power.
"Fortune favors the bold, though statistics favor the cautious." - Indomitable Courteous (Icy) Fist, The Palace Job - Patrick Weekes
"Well well well ... if it ain't The Invisible C**t." - Billy Butcher, The Boys
"I have strong views about not tempting providence and, as a wise man once said, the difference between luck and a wheelbarrow is, luck doesn’t work if you push it." - Colonel Orhan, Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City - KJ Parker
"Well well well ... if it ain't The Invisible C**t." - Billy Butcher, The Boys
"I have strong views about not tempting providence and, as a wise man once said, the difference between luck and a wheelbarrow is, luck doesn’t work if you push it." - Colonel Orhan, Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City - KJ Parker
#14603
Posted 20 December 2024 - 08:00 PM
Macros, on 20 December 2024 - 09:27 AM, said:
And now he wants to ge5 Farage elected, God help the world, why do we enable these rich wankstains?
No worst, there is none...
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... ffs.
That headline made me want to fling my laptop across the room...
But really, I should have expected it.
Maybe they can send over some general material for Trump (who said, "I need the kind of generals that Hitler had")... it'll be like France during the Revolutionary War, except... instead of Neoclassicism, Neonazi-ism!
#14604
Posted 23 December 2024 - 08:04 AM
Agree? Disagree?
I agree. Tired of rich bastards fucking us all up because they set things up to suit themselves.
https://www.youtube....rts/SOxcnn6gzqo
I agree. Tired of rich bastards fucking us all up because they set things up to suit themselves.
https://www.youtube....rts/SOxcnn6gzqo
"Fortune favors the bold, though statistics favor the cautious." - Indomitable Courteous (Icy) Fist, The Palace Job - Patrick Weekes
"Well well well ... if it ain't The Invisible C**t." - Billy Butcher, The Boys
"I have strong views about not tempting providence and, as a wise man once said, the difference between luck and a wheelbarrow is, luck doesn’t work if you push it." - Colonel Orhan, Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City - KJ Parker
"Well well well ... if it ain't The Invisible C**t." - Billy Butcher, The Boys
"I have strong views about not tempting providence and, as a wise man once said, the difference between luck and a wheelbarrow is, luck doesn’t work if you push it." - Colonel Orhan, Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City - KJ Parker
#14605
Posted 24 December 2024 - 12:14 PM
Amazingly, Trump continues to surprise me:
First we takeManhattan Greenland, then we take Berlin Canada!
Or to quote my other favorite Canadian singer:
(That's the Christmas spirit!)
But seriously... "an absolute necessity" for our "National Security" and "Freedom throughout the World"? And he's "100% serious"? Oh ffs... and Greenland is an autonomous territory of Denmark, which is part of NATO. Would Trump really use Greenland as an excuse to join Putin in attacking NATO members? Maybe Trump would go first, then Putin would go in? He'd have to finish mostly purging the military---or at least military command---and installing enough loyalists and fascists in military and executive branch positions. And perhaps effectively end democracy. So he's probably got a towering pile of flaming shit on his plate to gnaw through before he gets to World War Free. But how quickly can he get through it?... his neo-fascist allies apparently already have detailed concrete plans for how to do it. OTOH Republicans in the House and the Senate did show some pushback over Trump's stated desire to eliminate the debt ceiling. We'll see how quickly he can crush their spines, or twist their backbones around his (very) little fingers...
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"For purposes of National Security and Freedom throughout the World, the United States of America feels that ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity," the president-elect wrote [...] Sources close to the president-elect told the New York Post on Monday that he is "100% serious" about acquiring Greenland, as well as reasserting control over the Panama Canal Zone—an idea he also floated over the weekend, accusing the Central American nation of charging American ships "exorbitant" fees to use the passage.
Greenland PM Claps Back at Trump: 'We Are Not For Sale'
Greenland PM Claps Back at Trump: 'We Are Not For Sale'
First we take
Or to quote my other favorite Canadian singer:
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I want everything (that's why I had Elon Musk's babies---and Trump's just like me!)
(That's the Christmas spirit!)
But seriously... "an absolute necessity" for our "National Security" and "Freedom throughout the World"? And he's "100% serious"? Oh ffs... and Greenland is an autonomous territory of Denmark, which is part of NATO. Would Trump really use Greenland as an excuse to join Putin in attacking NATO members? Maybe Trump would go first, then Putin would go in? He'd have to finish mostly purging the military---or at least military command---and installing enough loyalists and fascists in military and executive branch positions. And perhaps effectively end democracy. So he's probably got a towering pile of flaming shit on his plate to gnaw through before he gets to World War Free. But how quickly can he get through it?... his neo-fascist allies apparently already have detailed concrete plans for how to do it. OTOH Republicans in the House and the Senate did show some pushback over Trump's stated desire to eliminate the debt ceiling. We'll see how quickly he can crush their spines, or twist their backbones around his (very) little fingers...
This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 24 December 2024 - 01:03 PM
#14606
Posted 24 December 2024 - 11:34 PM
Perhaps Trump will use Greenland as an excuse to impose tariffs on the EU and/or NATO nations? (Wonder whether the EU and NATO nations might then put pressure on Denmark to allow Trump generous access to Greenland---though annexation at this point in history does seem almost unthinkable and it seems extremely unlikely that the most economically powerful nations in the EU or NATO would press for that... granted I'm not sure about what the AfD, National Rally, or Brothers of Italy and other ascendant far right political groups might say about it---too much even for them? would Farage or his ilk ever advocate for the US annexing Greenland?).
Far-fetched as it seems, if Trump has the US armed forces seize Greenland in a sneak attack, will NATO go to war against the United States to get it back?
Perhaps Trump will start with Panama, then Greenland, then (coordinating with Putin and possibly China) Canada and/or Mexico (like a serial killer gradually working his way up to larger and larger victims... and after Canada, maybe Trump would like to avenge his deported grandfather by taking Germany... or maybe just Bavaria and letting Putin take care of the rest?)... by that time, perhaps with the aid of Musk &co, the US army may have enough semi-autonomous drones and other killer robots to not really need all that many Trump fascists. Like his favorite president, Andrew Jackson, Trump would at least displace, and possibly massacre, the indigenous people of Greenland who oppose expanded mining on their lands. He could have the robots do it in the dark. Mysterious fires in the night. Or spreading deadly bioweapons....
Trump could try to balance the budget the old-fashioned way: by forcibly plundering other countries, and/or forcing them to pay tribute. A student of history, eager to master it... and make Greatness (Might) Great (Right) again. But probably---hopefully---not.
Still... making preparations for defending Greenland might be sensible. If they're not too afraid of the consequences of NATO forces engaging militarily with US forces. A small team of special forces has casualties, maybe some get captured? Then Trump saying the United States needs vengeance, and those violent people around Greenland need to stopped permanently by the US taking control?
Far-fetched as it seems, if Trump has the US armed forces seize Greenland in a sneak attack, will NATO go to war against the United States to get it back?
Perhaps Trump will start with Panama, then Greenland, then (coordinating with Putin and possibly China) Canada and/or Mexico (like a serial killer gradually working his way up to larger and larger victims... and after Canada, maybe Trump would like to avenge his deported grandfather by taking Germany... or maybe just Bavaria and letting Putin take care of the rest?)... by that time, perhaps with the aid of Musk &co, the US army may have enough semi-autonomous drones and other killer robots to not really need all that many Trump fascists. Like his favorite president, Andrew Jackson, Trump would at least displace, and possibly massacre, the indigenous people of Greenland who oppose expanded mining on their lands. He could have the robots do it in the dark. Mysterious fires in the night. Or spreading deadly bioweapons....
Trump could try to balance the budget the old-fashioned way: by forcibly plundering other countries, and/or forcing them to pay tribute. A student of history, eager to master it... and make Greatness (Might) Great (Right) again. But probably---hopefully---not.
Still... making preparations for defending Greenland might be sensible. If they're not too afraid of the consequences of NATO forces engaging militarily with US forces. A small team of special forces has casualties, maybe some get captured? Then Trump saying the United States needs vengeance, and those violent people around Greenland need to stopped permanently by the US taking control?
This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 24 December 2024 - 11:35 PM
#14607
Posted Today, 09:41 AM
Let’s be honest: conquering and occupying a country is the work of decades. Greenland would be easier than Afghanistan or Iraq, but the timeline there is not take it today, integrate it tomorrow, exploit it the day after.
He wants access to Greenland and its resources and the access it offers to the resources in the Arctic Ocean. If NATO breaks up over this or he raises exhorting tariffs on NATO states (which this might be the pretext for), he is cutting his own fingers when it comes to curbing China’s global outreach.
He wants access to Greenland and its resources and the access it offers to the resources in the Arctic Ocean. If NATO breaks up over this or he raises exhorting tariffs on NATO states (which this might be the pretext for), he is cutting his own fingers when it comes to curbing China’s global outreach.
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