[Fener]

Kalse, on 08 February 2012 - 04:49 AM, said:

Fener, on 08 February 2012 - 04:14 AM, said:

Kalse, on 08 February 2012 - 04:10 AM, said:

Fener, on 08 February 2012 - 03:51 AM, said:

Only around for three years, but man, the quality of games that came out for it!

Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, Soul Calibur, Sonic Adventure, Le Mans 24 Hours, Grandia 2, Dead or Alive 2, Ecco, Rez....I could go on.


Edit: How could I forget Soul Reaver!

I played all the LoK games on PC.
but SR was pretty awesome. the sequel... not so much.

I've never played the sequel, or the original Blood Omen. I've got Blood Omen 2 and Defiance on the Xbox - but have yet to get around to actually playing them (when I have time, when I have time, when I have time).

Blood Omen 1 is one of my favouritest games of all time. think Zelda, but with mutha-fucking KAIN as the PC.
SR2 was meh, b/c they scrapped the open world, and the puzzles are constrained to the 4 forges
BO2 is regarded as the balck sheep of the family, but I thought it was super-atmospheric, although the gameplay gets a bit dull (well it's a common complaint of most LoK gmaes--it's the STORY that matters).
Defiance was... okay. they tried to makie it more DMC-esque, especially where comnbat is concerned. ymmv on the results. The story's solid, but GODDAMIT EIDOS, MAKE THE DAMN SEQUEL, WE NEED CLOSURE!!!!

I heard about a third of Soul Reaver was cut before release - which explains why there are loads of areas to explore and powers to gain which aren't necessary to the completion of the game - plus the fact that one of Raziel's brothers that he's supposed to take revenge on isn't even in the game.

Man I wish I hadn't rhymed you already today - it would really please me to silence you right now just as you think I'm mellowing out

[Kalse]

Fener, on 08 February 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

Kalse, on 08 February 2012 - 04:49 AM, said:

Fener, on 08 February 2012 - 04:14 AM, said:

Kalse, on 08 February 2012 - 04:10 AM, said:

Fener, on 08 February 2012 - 03:51 AM, said:

Only around for three years, but man, the quality of games that came out for it!

Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, Soul Calibur, Sonic Adventure, Le Mans 24 Hours, Grandia 2, Dead or Alive 2, Ecco, Rez....I could go on.


Edit: How could I forget Soul Reaver!

I played all the LoK games on PC.
but SR was pretty awesome. the sequel... not so much.

I've never played the sequel, or the original Blood Omen. I've got Blood Omen 2 and Defiance on the Xbox - but have yet to get around to actually playing them (when I have time, when I have time, when I have time).

Blood Omen 1 is one of my favouritest games of all time. think Zelda, but with mutha-fucking KAIN as the PC.
SR2 was meh, b/c they scrapped the open world, and the puzzles are constrained to the 4 forges
BO2 is regarded as the balck sheep of the family, but I thought it was super-atmospheric, although the gameplay gets a bit dull (well it's a common complaint of most LoK gmaes--it's the STORY that matters).
Defiance was... okay. they tried to makie it more DMC-esque, especially where comnbat is concerned. ymmv on the results. The story's solid, but GODDAMIT EIDOS, MAKE THE DAMN SEQUEL, WE NEED CLOSURE!!!!

I heard about a third of Soul Reaver was cut before release - which explains why there are loads of areas to explore and powers to gain which aren't necessary to the completion of the game - plus the fact that one of Raziel's brothers that he's supposed to take revenge on isn't even in the game.

Man I wish I hadn't rhymed you already today - it would really please me to silence you right now just as you think I'm mellowing out

SR1 was supposed to be the end of the series, with Raziel killing Kain, then goung into Turel's area, destroying the smokestack-aking machines, then then using the Silenced Cathedral to kill all vampires.

instead, they've set it up for a sequel, thus startign the telling of one of the best stories in the history of gaming.
SR2 is all about the plot, to the detriment of the gameplay. BO2 is a spinoff, that makes you all confused.
Defiance is a direct sequel to SR2.
it may be difficult to play defiance w/o having played SR2....

[Kalse]

good, now that I've shut him up, any other anons here to alk serious bsns?

[Fener]

I'm still here dude

[Kalse]

well, you weren't when I posted!

gah.
I'd lynch you, but, you know.....

[Fener]

No, come on, don't let that stop you! Try and lynch me!

Who knows what twelve's cooked up, it might just work!

[Fener]

And, also, to think you and all the rest were spouting about just ignoring me: Well, if I wasn't here right now, you'd be whistling in the wind! Where's your vaunted town now eh?

[Fener]

[Sorrit]

I'm seriously baffled by the 2NKs

If we have an inno vig who blew his load on night 1, sorry if this sounds condescending but I don't think you could have played worse short of vigging yourself before the game started. I mean this honestly. How about keeping it until we manage to lynch a third bodyguard and use it directly on Fener, or keeping it from when we have reveals to sort out?


As for Eloth, voting for me, this also baffles me. This is another sort of play that raises my hair out of my fucking skull: "I have nothing intelligent to say, I will vote based on your case, but if you are wrong it must mean you're scum so I will vote you next"? I said myself when I made my case that it was far from solid, but since we need to lynch might as well test something that could have bagged a second bonus scum if correct.

And considering what I read after I was silenced, not many actually took the time to read what I wrote, or at least to understand it. Silanah's reaction to my vote on Ruse actually convinced me I was on to something. I better find out in SH that him and Ruse were paired, otherwise that was again unecessary bad play.

</whine>

<morning_coffee>

[Sorrit]

I went to go look for those hesitant to lynch Silanah, because in a game like this the scum has absolutely nothing to gain from lynches.

They know their boss has night kills, and they know their boss know them and all the others. So there's no danger of a bad NK for them.

But the worse offender that I remembered was Mockra, and he got NK and was town.

Then again there's Eloth, who was all like "Ooooh I don't want to do this... what if Silanah is scum too... Damn you Sorrit.... I will vote expressing extreme unnecessary reluctance considering I don't have any better things to propose... "

You could see from every line of this posts how much he was hoping that Silanah would be inno

vote Eloth

There's a bit of OMGUS in there too but I don't know why today I woke up fucking pissed. Nothing to do with mafia but it's cheaper than therapy.

[Korbas]

Vote Ruse



Ok, he managed to weasel out of a lynch yesterday, and it all sounded somewhat believable. Now, he'd have us believe that whatever he tried to do at night didn't work, hence the existence of a "scum guard" speculation. For the life of me, I can't figure out what role he would be hiding in this setup.


All that comes to mind is that scum greatly benefit any time they can delay the death of one of their own. Even if we came back and lynched Ruse today, he still got us to lose innos on Day 1. That big blue wave smells like it has a lot of fish in it...

[Kalse]

bedtime for me.

busy day tomorrow, dunno how much i'll be on.

[Tennes]

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

Okay last post before I leave. I was thinking and I had to come back to write this. Fener was only supposed to be able to kill one person:

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You can kill one player at night if you have cast at least one vote during the day.

Awesome, OE just quoted the post I needed anyway. Do you think he gets an extra kill for each person to vote for him? If so, who was it that voted him? I'm late now. So bye for real.

It doesn't say so in his role PM as it was published: his role only mentions his own vote. I checked that before voting him.
Since his PM is out there, it seems rather unlikely if he has powers like that in addition to what he already has, now does it?

That's the first oddity coming from you today.

The second is the idea that Aardvarks guards can guard. That is a rather convenient excuse for not having to produce anything and stick around. I mean, 4 scum in a 16 player game is a tiny bit steep (1:3 instead of 1:3.5) and usually, we don't have to lynch symps to win. We do now, that is already a big hurdle.

Combine this with your reveal (reason 3: it ties up the healer for as long as you are around) and saying you hope Kalse gets killed (reason 4, as this can be signalling to Fener who ought to be killed), and I think you're going to be the likeliest scum candidate we have all day long.

Vote Ruse.

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I went to go look for those hesitant to lynch Silanah, because in a game like this the scum has absolutely nothing to gain from lynches.<br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(250, 251, 252); "><br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(250, 251, 252); ">They know their boss has night kills, and they know their boss know them and all the others. So there's no danger of a bad NK for them.

@ Sorrit's quote above: not entirely true. Lynches reduce the amount of days they have to stay alive in order to win, at the potential trade off of lynching one of their own.

[Anthras]

Kalse, on 08 February 2012 - 04:13 AM, said:

Osseric, on 08 February 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

Kalse, on 08 February 2012 - 03:15 AM, said:

anyways
vote Osseric

for fearmongering

vote Kalse


OMGUS!!!

yes, well, when you inflate the number of scum and then don't respond to a query, what other method of persuasion can I use?
you say you miscounted, all
right

remove vote

but igmeoy

now, Anthras what did you mean by Silanah being scum?

I read the scene wrong. I'm dork, don't mind me

[Barghast]

Anthras, on 08 February 2012 - 08:10 AM, said:

Kalse, on 08 February 2012 - 04:13 AM, said:

Osseric, on 08 February 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

Kalse, on 08 February 2012 - 03:15 AM, said:

anyways
vote Osseric

for fearmongering

vote Kalse


OMGUS!!!

yes, well, when you inflate the number of scum and then don't respond to a query, what other method of persuasion can I use?
you say you miscounted, all
right

remove vote

but igmeoy

now, Anthras what did you mean by Silanah being scum?

I read the scene wrong. I'm dork, don't mind me

the bit "He was a SHIELD", yeah i assumed scum too. plus feners little act didnt help.

vote ruse

Oddly timed reveal, erratic almost desperate posting. The rhyming on day one, and basically asking fener to target kalse.

[Hood's Path]

Olar Ethil, on 08 February 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

Hood, on 06 February 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

Fener, on 06 February 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Osseric, on 06 February 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

So, pretty much a standard 15 player game, 3 scum vs 12 town. Normally I would start her with a Fener vote... but as that isn't possible, I am at a loss

Vote for me Osseric, I dare you.

I double-dare you.

Double bluff?

Just putting this thought out there cause I thought of it before, what if Fener is lynchable today? Rather than vote night as someone suggested what if we voted Fener off and it worked? If it did then it is better than voting night, and today is a better day than any to attempt such a thing.

If not, then we have a 1 in 4 shot of lynching one of his body guards randomly. I am unsure what we should be looking for on day one though, I am open to suggestions. Someone trying to lay low? Someone agreeable with Fener? Looking for possible signals?

Like I said, i'll have plenty of time later on tonight to attribute my thoughts on the matter and bounce some ideas of people but right now I have to work like a madman

Hood's Path also suggested early on that instead of voting night like Kalse had suggested as a possible move that we should vote Fener on the off chance that a day 1 lynch would work, which seemed off, also Silanah before being lynched had made a case against him. I'd need to read up on his comments later on though but there could be something there.

Well I looked at you yesterday and now you make an OMGUS case. I would never have voted night, but if people took up that suggestion then my idea would have been better. If you vote night then you do not get a chance at a lynch. There have been games in the past with weird mechanics. Yes it is in black and white in the OP but doesn't mean to say there isn't a hidden mechanic. I remember one game, if we voted pathshaper off we would have benefitted greatly, yet who votes PS? It was a thought I wanted kicking around and played with, rather than acted upon.

Sorry catching up, but this caught my eye, Olar looked quite scummy to me day one and I voted for him so now this looks to me like him being petty.

[Tennes]

Hood, on 08 February 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 08 February 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

Hood, on 06 February 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

Fener, on 06 February 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Osseric, on 06 February 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

So, pretty much a standard 15 player game, 3 scum vs 12 town. Normally I would start her with a Fener vote... but as that isn't possible, I am at a loss

Vote for me Osseric, I dare you.

I double-dare you.

Double bluff?

Just putting this thought out there cause I thought of it before, what if Fener is lynchable today? Rather than vote night as someone suggested what if we voted Fener off and it worked? If it did then it is better than voting night, and today is a better day than any to attempt such a thing.

If not, then we have a 1 in 4 shot of lynching one of his body guards randomly. I am unsure what we should be looking for on day one though, I am open to suggestions. Someone trying to lay low? Someone agreeable with Fener? Looking for possible signals?

Like I said, i'll have plenty of time later on tonight to attribute my thoughts on the matter and bounce some ideas of people but right now I have to work like a madman

Hood's Path also suggested early on that instead of voting night like Kalse had suggested as a possible move that we should vote Fener on the off chance that a day 1 lynch would work, which seemed off, also Silanah before being lynched had made a case against him. I'd need to read up on his comments later on though but there could be something there.

Well I looked at you yesterday and now you make an OMGUS case. I would never have voted night, but if people took up that suggestion then my idea would have been better. If you vote night then you do not get a chance at a lynch. There have been games in the past with weird mechanics. Yes it is in black and white in the OP but doesn't mean to say there isn't a hidden mechanic. I remember one game, if we voted pathshaper off we would have benefitted greatly, yet who votes PS? It was a thought I wanted kicking around and played with, rather than acted upon.

Sorry catching up, but this caught my eye, Olar looked quite scummy to me day one and I voted for him so now this looks to me like him being petty.

Skip over people being petty and discuss people being scummy, please.

You seem rather intent to comment on things related to you, and see scumminess mostly that way, too - why, are you nervous? You did the same thing yesterday when I dismissed your whole 'let's try and lynch Fener' ploy out of hand, acted as if you had your ass spanked and went sulking about how I ought to have discussed it, then went voting me and two other people in rapid succession without even giving an extended reason for voting them.

And why should we second guess hidden mechanics? Suppose next game I make, voting night will make every town member super duper strong, are we then to vote night every game because it might be a hidden mechanic?

[Hood's Path]

Just caught up. A lot of spamming by Fener but more so when we get talking about the good stuff. I don't know yet if he is spamming when we are talking about his people or if he is just trying to break up our discussion!

[Hood's Path]

Tennes, on 08 February 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

Hood, on 08 February 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 08 February 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

Hood, on 06 February 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

Fener, on 06 February 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Osseric, on 06 February 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

So, pretty much a standard 15 player game, 3 scum vs 12 town. Normally I would start her with a Fener vote... but as that isn't possible, I am at a loss

Vote for me Osseric, I dare you.

I double-dare you.

Double bluff?

Just putting this thought out there cause I thought of it before, what if Fener is lynchable today? Rather than vote night as someone suggested what if we voted Fener off and it worked? If it did then it is better than voting night, and today is a better day than any to attempt such a thing.

If not, then we have a 1 in 4 shot of lynching one of his body guards randomly. I am unsure what we should be looking for on day one though, I am open to suggestions. Someone trying to lay low? Someone agreeable with Fener? Looking for possible signals?

Like I said, i'll have plenty of time later on tonight to attribute my thoughts on the matter and bounce some ideas of people but right now I have to work like a madman

Hood's Path also suggested early on that instead of voting night like Kalse had suggested as a possible move that we should vote Fener on the off chance that a day 1 lynch would work, which seemed off, also Silanah before being lynched had made a case against him. I'd need to read up on his comments later on though but there could be something there.

Well I looked at you yesterday and now you make an OMGUS case. I would never have voted night, but if people took up that suggestion then my idea would have been better. If you vote night then you do not get a chance at a lynch. There have been games in the past with weird mechanics. Yes it is in black and white in the OP but doesn't mean to say there isn't a hidden mechanic. I remember one game, if we voted pathshaper off we would have benefitted greatly, yet who votes PS? It was a thought I wanted kicking around and played with, rather than acted upon.

Sorry catching up, but this caught my eye, Olar looked quite scummy to me day one and I voted for him so now this looks to me like him being petty.

Skip over people being petty and discuss people being scummy, please.

You seem rather intent to comment on things related to you, and see scumminess mostly that way, too - why, are you nervous? You did the same thing yesterday when I dismissed your whole 'let's try and lynch Fener' ploy out of hand, acted as if you had your ass spanked and went sulking about how I ought to have discussed it, then went voting me and two other people in rapid succession without even giving an extended reason for voting them.

And why should we second guess hidden mechanics? Suppose next game I make, voting night will make every town member super duper strong, are we then to vote night every game because it might be a hidden mechanic?

Reading through the thread I find someone addresses me then I want to answer back, it would be scummier to ignore all posts regarding me surely? The thread is not focused on me but by bringing up these posts I draw the attention of everyone, so I don't see how responding to posts regarding me is bad.

I just think it is lazy spamming the thread with shit rather than going through what could be or what is. I want to get a few angles worked out so that we aren't lynching blindly.

[Hood's Path]

Working out somethings out loud rather than in my inbox. 13 people left alive. 4 scum. 9 Town.

7 players are have 15 or less posts. 2 of those are dead and both were town. Leaving 5 people.

5 Players are middle of the pack.

4 players leading the pack. One known scum. One known town.

1 in 3 shot of lynching scum today.

Assuming we have a body guard in each section i'd say Ruse gives us the best shot at hitting scum.