[Korbas]

Remove Vote

I shall await this possible case.

[Fener]

I am pleased by your efforts, Korbas, even though I believe some of thos portrayals of my good self err on the somewhat fictitious.



















Banana dog fig face.

[Korbas]

Aren't you a bit bored by this game though, Fener? I mean, no one will listen to you in any event, so I'm not sure how entertaining/challenging this role is for you.

It might just be better if, you know, you let us kill someone important to you just to make it all more entertaining.

[Tennes]

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Korbas, on 08 February 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

Vote Ruse



Ok, he managed to weasel out of a lynch yesterday, and it all sounded somewhat believable. Now, he'd have us believe that whatever he tried to do at night didn't work, hence the existence of a "scum guard" speculation. For the life of me, I can't figure out what role he would be hiding in this setup.


All that comes to mind is that scum greatly benefit any time they can delay the death of one of their own. Even if we came back and lynched Ruse today, he still got us to lose innos on Day 1. That big blue wave smells like it has a lot of fish in it...

I'm not 100% sure that there's a guard. I would try to get the person I performed my action on lynched, but my action may have failed because they're inno, and if they're inno I'm afraid of them being roled.

My role is not a role that expects success every night, so I don't know what you want from me.

Blahblahblah. You're our biggest chance at success (your own words - "I have the most important town role!") but your action doesn't work every night - what, is it made by underpaid chinese kids rather than Germans?
It is really odd if you get the same result when guarded as you do when someone is inno but do get a result when someone is scum.

So either your action didn't work, or you were guarded.

If you think you may be guarded, then that gives scum 2 roles, one killer in Fener, and a guard. So, is someone an extra special guard shield, or can all 3 guard, mr Wave?

Apparently your action works like a find in that it works on scum only. Since I really don't believe there are scum guards (or town guards, for that matter), care to tell us who you used it on?

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Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

Okay last post before I leave. I was thinking and I had to come back to write this. Fener was only supposed to be able to kill one person:

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You can kill one player at night if you have cast at least one vote during the day.

Awesome, OE just quoted the post I needed anyway. Do you think he gets an extra kill for each person to vote for him? If so, who was it that voted him? I'm late now. So bye for real.

It doesn't say so in his role PM as it was published: his role only mentions his own vote. I checked that before voting him.
Since his PM is out there, it seems rather unlikely if he has powers like that in addition to what he already has, now does it?

That's the first oddity coming from you today.

I know it seems odd (the 2 kills) that's why I was speculating. I discounted a vig because why the fuck would anyone use a vig on day 1?

Because people still haven't learned a single fucking thing. Vigs are perhaps used more on night 1 than on all other nights combined, look at what Morghy posted last game and when he used it.

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Wow. I did everything I had to do to give town time to change their vote away from me. I revealed as much information as I was allowed. I hoped that my action would work so I would have something concrete to come back with, but I didn't. I was either guarded or it failed. But I'm feeling even more strongly that I was guarded after some of the recent posts in thread.

I don't have a lot of time right now, but I'll be back in an hour or two. By then I'll have decided whether to make my case or not.

3 votes already. Either scum smell blood, or town is not thinking. I thought Sil's inno CF might help a bit, but apparently not.

Town is thinking you botched your reveal, town is thinking that you are not forthcoming, town is thinking you suggest an inexplicable set-up, town is thinking it is in town's interest if you make your case. Town is thinking that you enjoy the spotlight too much, and town is also thinking that your statements are highly contradicting one another. Town is also thinking that you didn't give a rats arse about giving up Silanah even though they, for all your knowledge, might have been roled as well. This particular member of town is thinking that this is all scummy behavior of a player trying to stay alive and centre-stage for as many days as they can through any trick in the book.

As for your comment that you were rhyming for fun: seriously, you dumb-ass, we work in a game where people can be forced to talk in pictures or in rhyme - you don't think that picking rhyme is then a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit of a suspect, to not say, poor choice? Really, we're not the ones destroying your fun: you're the one who picks the wrong way to RP: you chose a way that hampered the game. It isn't like there wasn't enough role play if that was what you wanted, either - pages full of Fener and others back-and-forthing in character between Tyrant Steve and his hating subjects.

Silanah's CF does nothing for you except prove part of the theory of Sorrit wrong. And the fact that you easily sold out Silanah does nothing for you.

I also think you should make your case, no matter how weak. To say you have one and then not make it is NOT HOW TOWN PLAYS.
You have done everything to survive in a matter I don't associate with a townie. HP is in a self-contained universe answering only people who confront him directly and wildly flinging around with crap theories and votes and saying people are scummy for accusing others (or more particular, for accusing him).

The two of you are my main choices for scum.

[Fener]

Korbas, on 08 February 2012 - 02:17 PM, said:

Aren't you a bit bored by this game though, Fener? I mean, no one will listen to you in any event, so I'm not sure how entertaining/challenging this role is for you.

It might just be better if, you know, you let us kill someone important to you just to make it all more entertaining.

On the contrary, I'm having loads of fun watching town flail about

And most of all, it's ridiculously good fun manipulating you all without you even being aware of it - or rather, thinking you're cleverer than me and can work through to the truth of my comments and tactics. Just wait till you get to SH

[Fener]

Tennes, are you around?

[Tennes]

Fener, on 08 February 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

Tennes, are you around?

Oh yes, unprocessed dinner, I am.

[Tennes]

Are you?

[Tennes]

Ah, there you are. I bet you were carousing with someone's daughter.

[Fener]

Indeed, I am. And it's good that you're around. You're a talker. That's good for a text-based game, isn't it?

But you talk so beautifully I thought that you might like to also put it in rhyme.


RHYME TIME FOR TENNES FOR TWO HOURS!!!!!

[Tennes]

Although, to be fair, I would have expected you to build up a bit more stamina than the wee two minutes you were away.

edit: crosspost.

This post has been edited by Tennes: 08 February 2012 - 02:54 PM

[Fener]

Tennes, on 08 February 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

Although, to be fair, I would have expected you to build up a bit more stamina than the wee two minutes you were away.

edit: crosspost.

Your jibe is rendered invalid due to not being in rhyme form.

And in any case, when it comes to this village's daughters, it's all about my pleasure, not theirs.

[Korbas]

Oh wait, I'm not silenced anymore.

[Ruse]

Tennes, on 08 February 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Korbas, on 08 February 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

Vote Ruse



Ok, he managed to weasel out of a lynch yesterday, and it all sounded somewhat believable. Now, he'd have us believe that whatever he tried to do at night didn't work, hence the existence of a "scum guard" speculation. For the life of me, I can't figure out what role he would be hiding in this setup.


All that comes to mind is that scum greatly benefit any time they can delay the death of one of their own. Even if we came back and lynched Ruse today, he still got us to lose innos on Day 1. That big blue wave smells like it has a lot of fish in it...

I'm not 100% sure that there's a guard. I would try to get the person I performed my action on lynched, but my action may have failed because they're inno, and if they're inno I'm afraid of them being roled.

My role is not a role that expects success every night, so I don't know what you want from me.

Blahblahblah. You're our biggest chance at success (your own words - "I have the most important town role!") but your action doesn't work every night - what, is it made by underpaid chinese kids rather than Germans?

I'm better than a finder. When my result came back negative, I asked PSer if he would tell me if I had been guarded. He responded in the negative, he actually said "now why would I do that?". So I feel that I may have been guarded.

It is really odd if you get the same result when guarded as you do when someone is inno but do get a result when someone is scum.

I don't know if I get the same result when I'm guarded vs the person is inno. It came back that my action failed, I didn't get the result that the person was inno or that I was guarded. I suppose we'll see tonight when I try again.
So either your action didn't work, or you were guarded.

If you think you may be guarded, then that gives scum 2 roles, one killer in Fener, and a guard. So, is someone an extra special guard shield, or can all 3 guard, mr Wave?

If there is a guard, it would seem likely that they only have one. 3 guards seem excessive. As you've pointed out, a single guard seems excessive. But I feel there's a possibility I was guarded last night, regardless.

Apparently your action works like a find in that it works on scum only. Since I really don't believe there are scum guards (or town guards, for that matter), care to tell us who you used it on?

I used it on Barghast. It failed. You can PI Barghast, if you don't believe in the guard.

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Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

Okay last post before I leave. I was thinking and I had to come back to write this. Fener was only supposed to be able to kill one person:

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You can kill one player at night if you have cast at least one vote during the day.

Awesome, OE just quoted the post I needed anyway. Do you think he gets an extra kill for each person to vote for him? If so, who was it that voted him? I'm late now. So bye for real.

It doesn't say so in his role PM as it was published: his role only mentions his own vote. I checked that before voting him.
Since his PM is out there, it seems rather unlikely if he has powers like that in addition to what he already has, now does it?

That's the first oddity coming from you today.

I know it seems odd (the 2 kills) that's why I was speculating. I discounted a vig because why the fuck would anyone use a vig on day 1?

Because people still haven't learned a single fucking thing. Vigs are perhaps used more on night 1 than on all other nights combined, look at what Morghy posted last game and when he used it.

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Wow. I did everything I had to do to give town time to change their vote away from me. I revealed as much information as I was allowed. I hoped that my action would work so I would have something concrete to come back with, but I didn't. I was either guarded or it failed. But I'm feeling even more strongly that I was guarded after some of the recent posts in thread.

I don't have a lot of time right now, but I'll be back in an hour or two. By then I'll have decided whether to make my case or not.

3 votes already. Either scum smell blood, or town is not thinking. I thought Sil's inno CF might help a bit, but apparently not.

Town is thinking you botched your reveal, town is thinking that you are not forthcoming, town is thinking you suggest an inexplicable set-up, town is thinking it is in town's interest if you make your case. Town is thinking that you enjoy the spotlight too much, and town is also thinking that your statements are highly contradicting one another. Town is also thinking that you didn't give a rats arse about giving up Silanah even though they, for all your knowledge, might have been roled as well. This particular member of town is thinking that this is all scummy behavior of a player trying to stay alive and centre-stage for as many days as they can through any trick in the book.



As for your comment that you were rhyming for fun: seriously, you dumb-ass, we work in a game where people can be forced to talk in pictures or in rhyme - you don't think that picking rhyme is then a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit of a suspect, to not say, poor choice? Really, we're not the ones destroying your fun: you're the one who picks the wrong way to RP: you chose a way that hampered the game. It isn't like there wasn't enough role play if that was what you wanted, either - pages full of Fener and others back-and-forthing in character between Tyrant Steve and his hating subjects.

Silanah's CF does nothing for you except prove part of the theory of Sorrit wrong. And the fact that you easily sold out Silanah does nothing for you.

I also think you should make your case, no matter how weak. To say you have one and then not make it is NOT HOW TOWN PLAYS.
You have done everything to survive in a matter I don't associate with a townie. HP is in a self-contained universe answering only people who confront him directly and wildly flinging around with crap theories and votes and saying people are scummy for accusing others (or more particular, for accusing him).

The two of you are my main choices for scum.

[Ruse]

The reply box wasn't behaving, so I'm going to try to edit the rest of my response in. If that doesn't work I'll just do it in the next post.

[Rashan]

Here.

Reading up.

[Tennes]

Fener, on 08 February 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

Indeed, I am. And it's good that you're around. You're a talker. That's good for a text-based game, isn't it?

But you talk so beautifully I thought that you might like to also put it in rhyme.


RHYME TIME FOR TENNES FOR TWO HOURS!!!!!

For two hours, I have to rhyme.
But oh tyrant Steve, have you seen the time?
My twins cut their wrists after your last rape,
yet because loose sphincters leave such a gape
you took them once more despite the Tiste association
And I can't do anything against it, I'm out on probation
The judge will have my head if I act with violence
So I may choose temporary exile and silence
to overcome my sorrow in solitude
and return with a vengeful attitude
to see you stretched between two trees
Your shirvelling little member covered in honey and bees
a rat eating its way up from your butt
your belly slit, your throat cut
Oh watch me rage and spit this rhyme,
Tyrant Steve, will you be my Valentine?

A special tyrant deserves a special day
I'm sure you appreciate the significance of my dismay
that I would select the day of loving couples
to express my hate outright, not subtle

I will treat you to torture you never yet underwent
Really, I will go to every expense
to make your final day amongst the living
A true nightmare, a hell worth giving
to someone of your lofty disposition
Please Tyrant Steve, tell me your decision!

Come with me, oh lord of lard
I don't care if you bring a guard
For I have nothing to lose and a game to win
And over your dead body I can go in
into Spoiler Heaven, that place of truth
with my head held high, and vengeance for my two youths.

[Tennes]

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 February 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Korbas, on 08 February 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

Vote Ruse



Ok, he managed to weasel out of a lynch yesterday, and it all sounded somewhat believable. Now, he'd have us believe that whatever he tried to do at night didn't work, hence the existence of a "scum guard" speculation. For the life of me, I can't figure out what role he would be hiding in this setup.


All that comes to mind is that scum greatly benefit any time they can delay the death of one of their own. Even if we came back and lynched Ruse today, he still got us to lose innos on Day 1. That big blue wave smells like it has a lot of fish in it...

I'm not 100% sure that there's a guard. I would try to get the person I performed my action on lynched, but my action may have failed because they're inno, and if they're inno I'm afraid of them being roled.

My role is not a role that expects success every night, so I don't know what you want from me.

Blahblahblah. You're our biggest chance at success (your own words - "I have the most important town role!") but your action doesn't work every night - what, is it made by underpaid chinese kids rather than Germans?

I'm better than a finder. When my result came back negative, I asked PSer if he would tell me if I had been guarded. He responded in the negative, he actually said "now why would I do that?". So I feel that I may have been guarded.
Didn't it once cross your mind;
that asking this is fishing and P-S isn't inclined
to give you a freebie
not even such a teensy-weenie?

It is really odd if you get the same result when guarded as you do when someone is inno but do get a result when someone is scum.

I don't know if I get the same result when I'm guarded vs the person is inno. It came back that my action failed, I didn't get the result that the person was inno or that I was guarded. I suppose we'll see tonight when I try again.
so you don't know
what your action does
You're one weird fucker
and lack comprehension - and class.
So either your action didn't work, or you were guarded.

If you think you may be guarded, then that gives scum 2 roles, one killer in Fener, and a guard. So, is someone an extra special guard shield, or can all 3 guard, mr Wave?

If there is a guard, it would seem likely that they only have one. 3 guards seem excessive. As you've pointed out, a single guard seems excessive. But I feel there's a possibility I was guarded last night, regardless.
if you think one guard can do stuff,
why can only one play rough?

Apparently your action works like a find in that it works on scum only. Since I really don't believe there are scum guards (or town guards, for that matter), care to tell us who you used it on?

I used it on Barghast. It failed. You can PI Barghast, if you don't believe in the guard.
I don't believe in the guard, nor do I believe in you
so I won't PI barghast, but thanks for the clue.

It does beg another enquiry
why Barghast, oh pray tell, I querry thee?

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Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

Okay last post before I leave. I was thinking and I had to come back to write this. Fener was only supposed to be able to kill one person:

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You can kill one player at night if you have cast at least one vote during the day.

Awesome, OE just quoted the post I needed anyway. Do you think he gets an extra kill for each person to vote for him? If so, who was it that voted him? I'm late now. So bye for real.

It doesn't say so in his role PM as it was published: his role only mentions his own vote. I checked that before voting him.
Since his PM is out there, it seems rather unlikely if he has powers like that in addition to what he already has, now does it?

That's the first oddity coming from you today.

I know it seems odd (the 2 kills) that's why I was speculating. I discounted a vig because why the fuck would anyone use a vig on day 1?

Because people still haven't learned a single fucking thing. Vigs are perhaps used more on night 1 than on all other nights combined, look at what Morghy posted last game and when he used it.

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Wow. I did everything I had to do to give town time to change their vote away from me. I revealed as much information as I was allowed. I hoped that my action would work so I would have something concrete to come back with, but I didn't. I was either guarded or it failed. But I'm feeling even more strongly that I was guarded after some of the recent posts in thread.

I don't have a lot of time right now, but I'll be back in an hour or two. By then I'll have decided whether to make my case or not.

3 votes already. Either scum smell blood, or town is not thinking. I thought Sil's inno CF might help a bit, but apparently not.

Town is thinking you botched your reveal, town is thinking that you are not forthcoming, town is thinking you suggest an inexplicable set-up, town is thinking it is in town's interest if you make your case. Town is thinking that you enjoy the spotlight too much, and town is also thinking that your statements are highly contradicting one another. Town is also thinking that you didn't give a rats arse about giving up Silanah even though they, for all your knowledge, might have been roled as well. This particular member of town is thinking that this is all scummy behavior of a player trying to stay alive and centre-stage for as many days as they can through any trick in the book.



As for your comment that you were rhyming for fun: seriously, you dumb-ass, we work in a game where people can be forced to talk in pictures or in rhyme - you don't think that picking rhyme is then a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit of a suspect, to not say, poor choice? Really, we're not the ones destroying your fun: you're the one who picks the wrong way to RP: you chose a way that hampered the game. It isn't like there wasn't enough role play if that was what you wanted, either - pages full of Fener and others back-and-forthing in character between Tyrant Steve and his hating subjects.

Silanah's CF does nothing for you except prove part of the theory of Sorrit wrong. And the fact that you easily sold out Silanah does nothing for you.

I also think you should make your case, no matter how weak. To say you have one and then not make it is NOT HOW TOWN PLAYS.
You have done everything to survive in a matter I don't associate with a townie. HP is in a self-contained universe answering only people who confront him directly and wildly flinging around with crap theories and votes and saying people are scummy for accusing others (or more particular, for accusing him).

The two of you are my main choices for scum.

[Ruse]

Town is thinking you botched your reveal, town is thinking that you are not forthcoming, town is thinking you suggest an inexplicable set-up, town is thinking it is in town's interest if you make your case. Town is thinking that you enjoy the spotlight too much, and town is also thinking that your statements are highly contradicting one another. Town is also thinking that you didn't give a rats arse about giving up Silanah even though they, for all your knowledge, might have been roled as well. This particular member of town is thinking that this is all scummy behavior of a player trying to stay alive and centre-stage for as many days as they can through any trick in the book.

You're welcome to your opinion, but I did what I was able to do with the reveal, and I did it in the time when I deemed it best. If you disagree, so be it, but it isn't as if I can change your opinion on the matter. I am not forthcoming because I am not allowed to be. Maybe my theorized guard isn't true. Again, so be it. I was putting the possibility out there that I was guarded last night.

Oh, and it seemed pretty obvious that Silanah was RI. He said he was willing to die in my place if I was truly roled. Go find the quote, it's there. I was hesitant about lynching him, but I felt it neccesary to get a lynch and he was the -realisticly- only option. I don't WANT to stay center-stage. I'll be happy to follow other's cases. What I want is to stay alive long enough for a successful NA, and rid us of at least one of the Shields. It's not my fault other people still feel it neccesary to pursue me. If I hadn't revealed, I would be lynched. If I had revealed more specifically, I would be modkilled.

As for your comment that you were rhyming for fun: seriously, you dumb-ass, we work in a game where people can be forced to talk in pictures or in rhyme - you don't think that picking rhyme is then a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit of a suspect, to not say, poor choice? Really, we're not the ones destroying your fun: you're the one who picks the wrong way to RP: you chose a way that hampered the game. It isn't like there wasn't enough role play if that was what you wanted, either - pages full of Fener and others back-and-forthing in character between Tyrant Steve and his hating subjects.

Silanah's CF does nothing for you except prove part of the theory of Sorrit wrong. And the fact that you easily sold out Silanah does nothing for you.

I also think you should make your case, no matter how weak. To say you have one and then not make it is NOT HOW TOWN PLAYS.
You have done everything to survive in a matter I don't associate with a townie. HP is in a self-contained universe answering only people who confront him directly and wildly flinging around with crap theories and votes and saying people are scummy for accusing others (or more particular, for accusing him).

The case I would have made would be that Barghast was extremely low posting, and didn't vote. We know shields will be afraid to vote for eachother. But he is voting me today, because I have revealed as a town role. I attempted to use my NA on him, and it failed. So I was either guarded, or he is inno. It's not a strong theory, but if he was lynched and turned out a Shield, I would know for sure that there is a guard in play. I guessed very few people would be on board with this, so I was considering not posting it to avoid the inevitable backlash. But you've demanded, and I have delivered.

The two of you are my main choices for scum.
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[Rashan]

Hood, on 08 February 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 08 February 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

Hood, on 06 February 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

Fener, on 06 February 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Osseric, on 06 February 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

So, pretty much a standard 15 player game, 3 scum vs 12 town. Normally I would start her with a Fener vote... but as that isn't possible, I am at a loss

Vote for me Osseric, I dare you.

I double-dare you.

Double bluff?

Just putting this thought out there cause I thought of it before, what if Fener is lynchable today? Rather than vote night as someone suggested what if we voted Fener off and it worked? If it did then it is better than voting night, and today is a better day than any to attempt such a thing.

If not, then we have a 1 in 4 shot of lynching one of his body guards randomly. I am unsure what we should be looking for on day one though, I am open to suggestions. Someone trying to lay low? Someone agreeable with Fener? Looking for possible signals?

Like I said, i'll have plenty of time later on tonight to attribute my thoughts on the matter and bounce some ideas of people but right now I have to work like a madman

Hood's Path also suggested early on that instead of voting night like Kalse had suggested as a possible move that we should vote Fener on the off chance that a day 1 lynch would work, which seemed off, also Silanah before being lynched had made a case against him. I'd need to read up on his comments later on though but there could be something there.

Well I looked at you yesterday and now you make an OMGUS case. I would never have voted night, but if people took up that suggestion then my idea would have been better. If you vote night then you do not get a chance at a lynch. There have been games in the past with weird mechanics. Yes it is in black and white in the OP but doesn't mean to say there isn't a hidden mechanic. I remember one game, if we voted pathshaper off we would have benefitted greatly, yet who votes PS? It was a thought I wanted kicking around and played with, rather than acted upon.

Sorry catching up, but this caught my eye, Olar looked quite scummy to me day one and I voted for him so now this looks to me like him being petty.

You looked pretty scummy yesterday, HP, and now you're trying to fear-monger about hidden mechanics?

Yep, you must be right, Tennes is a cult, Korbas is a serial killer, Barghast is a jester and I'm a demon summoner! You can tell because there's been no mention of any of these things so far so it must be true! And if anyone changes their avatar to a picture of a puppy dog they become a faceless highlander.

HP if you are town you need to get your head out of your ass but right now it looks a lot more like you are scum, somehow lacking any subtlety and trying to build town hesitancy.

Vote Hood's Path